The MeidasTouch Podcast - Hidden Indictment Exposes More on Trump’s Fear of Past
Episode Date: August 14, 2025MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on major developments in Trump hiding his dark past including a secret indictment that was never revealed to the public, Alex Acosta recently joining a White Hous...e bible study group, and Democrats demanding critical information about Trump’s cover up. Go to https://WildAlaskan.com/MEIDAS for $35 OFF your first box of premium, wild-caught seafood. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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unsealed and made public because Epstein allegedly died by suicide. And so the indictment was never made
public. And Epstein was never actually prosecuted because he allegedly died by suicide. But this is an
over 50-page criminal indictment that was prepared by the Department of Justice at the time before Donald Trump,
obviously destroyed the Department of Justice, which he did now with Pam Bondi, and it may have
a roadmap to not only Epstein's sex trafficking crimes, but also Epstein's co-conspirators.
Could this secret indictment, which nobody's seen before, it has never been released and is
currently in the Department of Justice and FBI's possession, could it hold a roadmap and a key
to also learning how Epstein used Mar-a-Lago to sex traffic underline?
age girls like Virginia Jufre, who was sex trafficked in her around 2000 and 2001 when she was a 17-year-old
girl working at the Mar-a-Lago spa, and Donald Trump said that Epstein stole her from the spa and stole
potentially other girls from the spa. I'm sure you know that during Elaine Maxwell's criminal
trial, facts about underage girls at Mar-a-lago were discussed. Virginia Joufray being sex
traffic after being taken by Epstein from Marlago to use Donald Trump's despicable language,
but also a 14-year-old girl, Jane Doe, who Epstein and Guillain victim, brought to Mar-Lago,
and according to the 14-year-old girl in a civil case, Epstein said, do you like this one,
Donald? Look at this one that I'm bringing you. Or words to that effect. Is that in this
secret 50-plus page indictment that is currently in the Department of Justice and FBI's possession?
So one of the easiest things that the DOJ and FBI could do tomorrow, which they should have done
months and months and months ago, why don't you just release that 50 page plus indictment that was
going to be filed against Epstein, but was never because he allegedly died by suicide.
And why don't we start with that document?
We know the DOJ and the FBI have in their possession and custody over 300 gigabytes or more
of videos and photos and FBI interviews and other witness statements and logs and a ton of other stuff
that was confiscated from Epstein's various homes and from Geelaine.
That stuff the FBI and the DOJ could have released months ago.
That has nothing to do with grand jury testimony.
That has nothing to do with Geelaine Maxwell being interviewed or getting immunity,
which the DOJ and FBI despicably gave her.
you have this in your custody and control.
So why don't we do this?
And maybe the Democrats should ask for this.
But the Democrats have made a powerful move that I'll talk about as well.
When the Democrats sent a letter saying,
we want to learn more information about your meeting with Gilane.
I'll talk about that in a moment as well.
But DOJ, FBI, let's start off in good faith, which of course they don't have,
release the secret indictment on Epstein and let the public see that first.
What are you hiding with that?
Is there Mar-a-Lago stuff in that?
Let us see that.
Now, the Epstein victim's attorney, a guy by the name of Jack Scarola, he's saying what I'm saying.
Release the secret indictment.
The victims want to see that document out there.
Start there.
Watch this powerful statement he just gave in an interview.
Let's play this clip.
There's a 53-page indictment that was drafted by the federal government detailing Epstein's
crimes describing the conspiracy and conspirators who were involved in those crimes that has never
been released, that could be released tomorrow if the Department of Justice were really interested
in transparency. There are transcripts, presumably, of the interviews that were conducted with
Galane Maxwell, that could be released tomorrow if the Justice Department were truly interested in
transparency. And if there were really an investigation that were directed at determining what this
cover up is all about, why it began, Alex Acosta would be at the very top of the list of
individuals to be interviewed because it is well documented in Acosta's own words that he actively
participated in concealing the circumstances of the sweetheart deal that Jeffrey Epstein received
back in 2007. And he was the individual who signed off on an absolutely unprecedented
non-prosecution agreement that granted immunity not only to Jeffrey Epstein, but to specifically
named conspirators that worked along with him to abuse hundreds of children.
I couldn't agree more with that. Now, in addition to that data, again, I think, by the way,
the Democrats should be subpoenaing. We'll start with that indictment. Then we'll go get the other
300 gigabytes, and we deserve that immediately. It should be noted, right, that the Democrats
have subpoenaed and they forced the House Oversight Committee to subpoena the Epstein files. That's due
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But the House Judiciary Committee Democrats yesterday asked the Justice Department for records,
transfer orders, and any waivers from the prison transfer of Gilemon.
McSwell. The American public should be outraged by the special treatment afforded to a pedophile
and criminally charged child sex offender, the Democrats say in this letter. So this is a letter
from the House Judiciary Democrats, House Judiciary Democrats to Pam Bondi, the Attorney General.
Dear Attorney General Bondi and dear Director Marshall, Director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons,
Two weeks ago, you inexplicably transferred Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirator
from a federal correctional institutions to a far preferable and relatively luxurious minimum security prison camp in Texas.
Just three years into her 20-year sentence for sexually exploiting and abusing minor girls as young as 14.
The transfer follows Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche's private interviews of Ms. Maxwell arranged after a firestorm of media attention about the Department of Justice's refusal to release.
police the full Epstein files as originally demanded by Donald Trump. These actions raise substantial
concerns that the administration may now be attempting to tamper with a crucial witness,
conceal Trump's relationship with convicted sex offenders, and coax Ms. Maxwell into providing
false or misleading testimony in order to protect Donald Trump. Pause there. You remember my
reporting from two days ago about Gilane Maxwell's cellmate in Tallahassee, Florida. It was first
reported in the Daily Mail that her cellmate said that Guy Lane had previously been telling
people, oh, she's got so much dirt on Donald Trump. And she wanted to give that dirt to former
President Biden and Merrick Garland. But Biden and Merrick Garland said, we ain't speaking with a convicted
sex trafficker. Even if you claim you have dirt, we don't want to speak to convicted
sex traffickers. We're not touching you. We're not talking to you. We're not looking at you.
So then she moved on to her next plan right here. By the way, it's also my.
view that she was the one who leaked, and should be obvious, right, the birthday montage or that
birthday compilation to the Wall Street Journal. I think one of her family members or lawyers or
somebody, I don't know who specifically, it's my opinion that they leaked it to the Wall Street
Journal as a warning shot to Donald Trump. You better come and speak to her. And then I think it was
coordinated behind the scenes after they issued that warning shot that she's got the goods for Trump
to do all of the stuff with her. But I digress.
But I think that's an important point as well.
The transfer appears to violate both the DOJ and Bureau of Prisons policies.
We write to demand the DOJ and BOP provide all documents and information related to Deputy Attorney General Blanche's interview of Ms. Maxwell and the sudden decision to transfer her to a facility with lower security and greater freedom for inmates, which was prior to this extraordinary transfer, categorically off limits to sex offenders.
pause there. One of the important things from that intro as well is Democrats are saying,
we think that you may have engaged in crimes, Trump, Blanche, not just relating to what went down
in the past, but by manipulating this witness with favors, by engaging in waivers to go to put
a registered sex offender and sex trafficker in a minimum security facility in Camp Brian, Texas,
right by the Texas A&M College campus, that that could be witness.
tampering, that could be a felony in and of itself the way you've been dealing with
Gilane Maxwell, which, by the way, is probably one of the reasons, too, that Biden was like,
do not speak to her. Like, we're not getting involved with her. It's only, it could only lead
to trouble, whether we like that or not, because maybe Biden could have got the goods
and the dirt on Donald Trump, as Geelaine's told cellmates allegedly. Then the letter goes on to say,
recently, Trump has engaged in a series of actions that create the strong appearance that his
administration is attempting to cover up the full extent of the relationship that Trump and
Epstein had. Amid mounting bipartisan pressure for the administration to release the full
Epstein files, Blanche, Donald Trump's former criminal defense attorney, now number two at the
DOJ, met with Ms. Maxwell to discuss her decades-long involvement in a scheme to traffic and
sexually abuse young girls. These meetings were highly unusual for several reasons.
Mr. Blanche, who until 10 months ago, served as Donald Trump's personal criminal defense lawyer,
met with Ms. Maxwell and her attorney with no-line prosecutors present.
The meeting took place just days after DOJ leadership fired one of the chief career prosecutors on the Epstein matter.
The purported purpose of this secret of meeting with Ms. Maxwell and her attorneys
was to determine whether she possessed information about anyone who has committed crimes against victims.
However, the need for this meeting was undercut by the DOJ's recent contradictory statements
that its thorough review of the Epstein files, which reportedly identified repeated references
to Donald Trump, did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against
uncharged third parties. Miss Maxwell's credibility as a witness was already severely compromised
before she was interviewed behind closed doors by the deputy attorney general.
During Trump's first administration, federal prosecutors charged her with
perjury, stating her willingness to brazenly lie under oath about her conduct strongly suggest
her true motive has been and remains to avoid being held accountable for her crimes.
However, Mr. Blanche destroyed any shred of credibility Ms. Maxwell may have had left when he decided
to attend multiple private meetings with her after she was subpoenaed by a congressional committee
to offer public testimony. His actions raised staggering concerns about political conflicts of
interest, witness tampering, and suborning a false testimony.
This is going to be important when Democrats take control of the House.
And in future DOJs, they're saying you're committing crimes, potentially, witness tampering,
suborning perjury, these are crimes.
Less than a week after Blanche's meeting with Ms. Maxwell, the Bureau of Prisons,
then transferred her from a federal correctional institution in Tallahassee to an all-woman minimum
security facility, listed as one of one.
of the best jails in america to serve time then it goes on to explain how she's not allowed to do that
based on being a sex trafficker which is not allowed it requires a waiver and such a waiver
almost never happens under bop regulations a person convicted of sex trafficking like miss maxwell
universally warrants a public safety factor PSF as sex offender an individual with a PSF designation is
ineligible to serve their sentence at a minimum security federal prison camp like the one in
Bryan, Texas, because such camps allow access to the community. Once imposed, such designations are
rarely, if ever, waived. I think that is an important point to make as well, because by the nature
of being in this facility, they integrate and work with college students at Texas A&M, which is in
Bryan, Texas. There were all of these programs from restorative justice and rehabilitation
of the female inmates, puppy programs and education programs. And oftentimes the prisoners can just
take a bus or walk right into town and hang out with the college kids. So now you have a convicted
sex trafficker who was sentenced to 20 plus years who can walk right into a college town.
And her MO is going into places like Mar-a-Lago and recruiting underage girls for the purpose of
sex trafficking. So we have that data point. The other data point I want to give you,
hat tip to my buddy Jonathan Larson for reporting on this, you all have asked what the hell has
happened to Alex Acosta. Alex Acosta is the former top federal prosecutor from the Southern
District of Florida who became Donald Trump's labor secretary during Trump's first administration
who resigned after it was uncovered that he entered into the sweetheart deal with Jeffrey
Epstein, the non-prosecution agreement back in 0708 that Geelaine Maxwell now uses for her appeal to
the Supreme Court to dismiss the case against her because in the non-prosecution agreement with
Epstein, it said that all of his co-conspirators cannot be prosecuted either.
So she's saying to the Supreme Court, a deal's a deal.
Alex Acosta entered into this deal with me or on my behalf with Epstein.
So you couldn't prosecute me.
So why when the MAGA Republicans now in Congress are subpoenaing Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, James Comey and all these other, Roberto Gonzalez, they do not subpoena Alex Acosta, who entered into the non-prosecution agreement who surely knows about Trump and all other, and Trump and he knows a lot about Trump and knows about Epstein's background. Why wouldn't you call Acosta in? Why wouldn't you subpoena him? So lots of people are saying, well, where is Acosta?
some shady business as well. So Alex Acosta has his one of his jobs right now is he's on the board
of directors of Newsmax, the Trump regime, state regime channel Newsmax. He's on their board of
directors and their stock like rocketed day one and then their stock plummeted thereafter. It was like
hit like $100 a share on day one and now it's trading out like $12 a share. But Alex Acosta is on their
board of directors. But on or around May 26, we start to see Alex Acosta's name in the White House
Bible study group. You know who else is in the White House Bible study group? Pam Bondi and others.
This is a group of people that meet allegedly to talk about Bible and religion, but it's a organization
where they meet in secret to allegedly do Bible study. But he seemed to really join this group in
earnest publicly in May, as Larson reports.
Epstein prosecutor Alex Acosta joined the White House Bible study.
A month later, fellow Bible study participant, Pam Bondi, announced no more files would
come out.
So are they talking about this stuff in this Bible study group and they're using the
Bible study group as a front?
Because it's a little bit suspicious that we start seeing him really to become a part of
this group at this time period.
Acosta, who served in the first administration, recently started to get involved in the Bible study group.
Attorney General Pam Bondi was part of the very first White House Bible study in Trump's second administration on February 22nd.
That was 26th.
That was around the time she also said that she had the Epstein files on her desk.
So right around February 26, I have the Epstein files in my desk.
She joins the Bible study group then.
And now we see in May, right around the period.
where Trump starts to say, oh, we're not releasing the files in June.
We're not releasing the files.
Costa's name was added to the list of sponsors in the Bible study pamphlet.
We see that right there.
He starts speaking at Bible study events.
You see his name on the June 26 Bible study event here.
The biblical case for defending Israel, June 26, 2025.
Folks, where's Alex, a conference?
Costa, Newsmax Bible, White House Bible study.
That's where secret indictment.
Now you know about that.
And the Democratic letter about the waiver for Gilane Maxwell that was given by Trump.
And the idea that we may be talking about suborning perjury and witness tampering felonies, if indeed that could be proven at a later time.
Folks, folks, folks.
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