The MeidasTouch Podcast - Jack Smith and Manhattan DA have Trump in MASSIVE Panic Mode

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

On this episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast, we discuss the ongoing legal battles surrounding former President Donald Trump, including the delay of the Manhattan Grand Jury vote for his indictment and ...his latest attacks against prosecutors. We also cover Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg's response to House GOP attempts to obstruct the investigation into Trump and the recent win for Special Counsel Jack Smith in the federal criminal case against Trump regarding the classified documents stolen and found at Mar-a-Lago. Additionally, we talk about Trump's escalating attacks on his rival Ron DeSantis and the latest Republican committee hearings, that once backfired in massive ways. Lastly, we discuss President Biden celebration of the 13th anniversary of the Affordable Care Act and his pledge to continue to get every American affordable health coverage. New full-length episodes of the MeidasTouch Podcast featuring the brothers are released every Tuesday & Friday morning. The rest of the week, enjoy our short-form content we call ‘The Mighty.’ If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to rate, review and subscribe. DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS: Rhone: Head to rhone.com/meidas and use code ‘MEIDAS’ to save 20% off your entire order! Lomi: Head to LOMI.COM/MEIDAS and use the promo code MEIDAS to get $50 off your Lomi. Shop Meidas Merch at: https://store.meidastouch.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/meidastouch Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 American Psyop: https://pod.link/1652143101 Majority 54: https://pod.link/1309354521 Political Beatdown: https://pod.link/1669634407 Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://pod.link/1676844320 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 charge bet mgm operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming ontario we are still on indictment watch here at the Midas Touch Networks it seems we will have to wait at least one more week to find out if the Manhattan criminal grand jury will vote to criminally indict Donald Trump. All signs still point to the fact that an indictment will take place. We will give you the most recent updates, including what we learned exclusively from Michael Cohen earlier in the day on the political beatdown podcast. I co-host with him about the Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg sent a scathing letter earlier in the day back to MAGA Republicans in the House of Representatives, informing them that their efforts to try to interfere with the Manhattan DA's criminal investigation into Trump is patently illegal. Another day and more MAGA Republican hearings
Starting point is 00:02:08 backfiring on the MAGA Republicans. The MAGA Republicans held a hearing as part of their efforts to abolish the ATF, the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Fire and firearms to promote what Democrat Jamie Raskin referred to as the Republicans' insurrectionist interpretation of the Second Amendment, you know, where weapons of war are meant for everyone to try to overthrow the government with more insurrections. We will break down for you what took place during this committee hearing and on the House floor. And another day and Donald Trump grows more and Jack Smith, calling Bragg an animal, calling Smith a radical lunatic bomb thrower, calling the New York Attorney General the get Trump Letitia James worst attorney general in the United States, little weak nickname.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And attacking the Fulton County District Attorney. Next, let's talk about how MAGA Republican Governor Ron DeSantis is getting absolutely crushed in the polls as he attempts to respond to Donald Trump calling him a meatball and calling him desantimonious and his tepid support of Ukraine and denying eating pudding with three fingers. The weird MAGA cult is not happy with cult member Ron DeSantis attacking their cult leader.
Starting point is 00:04:00 It's all so weird. Sponsored Jack Smith won a big motion this week, compelling Donald Trump's lawyer, Evan Corcoran, to testify again before the federal criminal grand jury in Washington, D.C., and for Corcoran to turn over written notes, written communications, and audio recordings relating to Trump's obstruction of justice in connection with Trump's theft of thousands of government records and top secret classified records, sensitive compartmented information, which Trump held and concealed at Mar-a-Lago. Get this, the chief judge of the DC federal court made a judicial finding that Donald Trump was engaged in a criminal scheme, direct quote, and used his lawyer, Evan Corcoran, in furtherance
Starting point is 00:04:54 of that criminal scheme. So after that big win, what did Jack Smith do? Jack Smith is still on the hunt. And on Thursday, Jack Smith was in federal court seeking to compel the testimony of former Vice President Mike Pence, who is ridiculously claiming that he is a senator and therefore under the speech and debate clause should not have to testify. Total coward. And in normal world, pro-democracy, pro-normalcy, hello everybody, President Biden is celebrating the 13th anniversary of the passage of the Affordable Care Act and the importance of expanding healthcare coverage to all Americans at the lowest price possible.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Look, I know that I'm supposed to tease at the opening and not just talk all about it, but this news is just too exciting for me, folks. I'm Ben Micellis, and this is the Midas Touch Podcast. And thank you for watching the Midas Touch Podcast. Great to be here, everybody. Great to be here on the Midas Touch Podcast. Another action-packed news day. A lot of big, big legal developments, and what a week it was. I know we were all anticipating that indictment to come, but it looks like it's held off till next week. So we're just going to have to wait. But Ben, see, just like you, Ben, Alvin Bragg, Manhattan DA, learning the art of the tease, I think. The art of the tease, leave them wanting more is all I got to say. On the one hand, you got Alvin Bragg criminally prosecuting Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:06:27 On the other hand, you got me making YouTube videos. That's teasing him. But no, I mean, it's all good. And keeping up with the news cycle itself is a full time job. So, you know, that's why I'm excited to get into the show to bring you all the updates, all the up to the minutethe-minute updates, because we are, of course, live here on the Midas Touch podcast, and we are just learning new things about the various prosecutions against Donald Trump because they're all over the country. We're learning new things up to the minute right now that we are excited to dig in and bring to you. But I just want to start off by saying thank you to everybody for watching,
Starting point is 00:07:01 for listening, everybody who subscribes to the audio podcast, subscribes to our YouTube channel. We are so grateful for you, Jordy. Always a pleasure to see you, my man. How are you doing? You're looking good. You working out? Thanks, fellas. No, not working out at all. You know what? I wore these wristbands today for tonight's show. I just look athletic right now because I'm wearing them. I haven't done an athletic thing all day. I'm just wearing wristbands. Such a life hack. Don't even work out. Just wear wristbands and stuff. People think you work out. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And so it might be my new look. It's all about optics. It's all about optics. Well, this is an exercise in democracy. And Jordy Waring, his American flag wristbands. No indictments yet this week. The Manhattan criminal grand jury seems like they will be meeting again next week. We had learned that they were typically a Monday and Wednesday grand jury, and they
Starting point is 00:07:54 usually met in the afternoon. There was some reporting yesterday that they may have been meeting on Thursday after they were told they did not need to show up on Wednesday. There's a lot of speculation for the reason why. Was Alvin Bragg coordinating with law enforcement? Is there going to be potentially another witness? Those are some potential explanations for it. What we do know, based on what I learned from Michael Cohen earlier, is that Cohen has not been called to go back and testify. And so I heard some people saying, was Michael Cohen going to be called again as a witness after Trump put forward Robert Costello, who was one of Cohen's legal advisors back in 2018. You'll recall at the end of last week, Cohen had made himself available in the event he needed to provide rebuttal testimony,
Starting point is 00:08:52 perhaps to clean up something that Costello said. Cohen was ultimately told he did not need to provide that rebuttal, meaning that what Costello said was probably not effective at all. So one of the things I was looking at, and I didn't know the answer, frankly, until I asked Cohen directly live in front of everybody is, has he been contacted by the Manhattan District Attorney's Office to show back up again? And he responded that he wasn't, which all things and all signs point to this thing continuing to move in the right direction, that Trump is likely to get criminally indicted the next time this grand jury meets or the time thereafter. So I think we just look till next week. But one of the things that I think that you can plan for or conceptualize, but when it's actually
Starting point is 00:09:47 being done in real time, you have to adapt, is that the threats that Donald Trump is making towards Alvin Bragg and to the district attorney's office has real world consequences. We know, for example, during a hearing that was held middle of this week with the New York Attorney General's office, there was a bomb threat that was called into the courthouse there, and they had to adjourn for about an hour in connection with one of the many Trump cases there. been direct threats made directly to Alvin Bragg, including this threat. We'll go through in a bit in the show all of these posts that Donald Trump's been making, but this particularly disgusting one, it's a photo that Donald Trump posts of himself wielding a baseball bat like he's about to hit Alvin Bragg with the baseball bat. I mean, just outward violence like that. And then you pair that with some of the other statements. And one of these posts where Donald Trump called Alvin Bragg an animal and said, people are not going to be able to take this anymore. I mean, you go and you read this
Starting point is 00:10:57 statement and this statement truly looks like a Nazi sympathizer wrote this. Why won't Bragg drop this case? Everybody says there is no crime here. I did nothing wrong. It was all made up by a convicted nut job with zero credibility who has been disputed by highly respected professionals at every turn. Bragg refuses to stop despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. He is a Soros-backed animal who just doesn't care about right or wrong, no matter how many people are hurt. There is no legal system. This is the Gestapo. This is Russia and China, but worse, disgraceful. And then there were other posts where he says people aren't going to take this anymore and people need to do something. And he also kind of said,
Starting point is 00:11:45 and they said, we shouldn't get violent. And they're telling us we need to remain peaceful. It's another post that he made. So you pair all of that. This is the one right here. Everybody knows I'm 100% innocent, including Bragg, but he doesn't care. He is just carrying out the plans of radical left lunatics. Our country is being destroyed as they tell us to be peaceful. Here's what I'm wondering when I read those things, Ben, if I could just ask you a question here. First, I'm wondering, do you think this at all affects when he ultimately is indicted, the terms of his bail, his arraignment? Do any of these threats factor in to what a judge then decides to do with Trump upon his arraignment is my first question. I'll start there, then I got
Starting point is 00:12:30 one more. It potentially could impact the conditions on, I don't think there's any, I think it's a no bail crime, but the conditions on it in terms of once you're in the criminal justice system and then you're threatening a district attorney is different than when no case has been filed yet. It's not going to ultimately really affect what the judge does, but I think it will affect the timing of all of this because a great deal of security needs to be assembled right now because Alvin Bragg as the Manhattan District Attorney also needs to make sure that his office is safe. And I'm sure there's a lot of threats that we don't even know about taking place right now that they have to contend with. So it does
Starting point is 00:13:18 have an impact, but it's sick. It's sadistic. And you combine that with the fact that people like, what's his name, Jim Jordan and these MAGA Republicans who chair committees and they claim to be, oh, we're for states' rights. trying to tamper with it basically and tell Alvin Bragg to violate grand jury secrecy. And Alvin Bragg responded to that today and saying, you don't have the right to even make this request. But what a time we are living in where a political party has utterly become a cult. No doubt about that. And in seeing those posts from people like Jim Jordan, I wish we did live in a country where they could be prosecuted for obstruction of justice for things like that, but I'm sure they will pull that. They're just trying to do their official duties in Congress and will have no ramifications for their very clear and blatant obstruction of justice there. The other thing I was wondering, because to me, this speaks to the heart of also Trump's inciting of the insurrection on January 6th. It seems like
Starting point is 00:14:26 he is pulling the same exact playbook that we saw him pull in the days leading up to January 6th and the days on January 6th. So I wonder, do these statements here, do you think have any impact whatsoever on the ultimate charging in cases that Jack Smith is working on in January 6th, especially when he echoes his rhetoric, the same rhetoric that he said on that day, where he tries to use it as his defense, where he said, I said peacefully, I said peacefully. And here he pretty clearly says the quiet part out loud, which is, and they tell us to be peaceful, which the implicit thing that he is saying there is we should be violent over this. I mean, to me, it's very obvious what he is calling for. Thankfully, we have not seen the cult
Starting point is 00:15:11 show up. It's funny, they've kind of psyched themselves out because they're like, the feds are going to act like us. It's like, no, you're just not showing up because you're scared and you don't have it in you anymore to show up. But I was happy to not see any crowds and stuff outside of Trump Tower, except for the people who were actually cheering on Trump's arrest. But go back to my question. Do you think this has any implications whatsoever on Jack Smith prosecuting January 6th? Absolutely. It will all be used as evidence. These posts will be used as exhibits in the criminal prosecution. And so you may wonder, why would Trump be doing this? I mean, it's totally deranged. Well, number one, he's completely deranged. But number two, he's given up on any legitimate defense to criminal
Starting point is 00:15:59 charges like that. He doesn't view it through a prism of how people who are charged with crimes his posts. He sees himself as the country, which is a trait of these malignant narcissists, fascist authoritarians over and over again. And so his defense is bring the country down. Ultimate Putin's puppet, Jordy. Not to get lost in this because we went over it pretty quickly, but I mean, it's an absolutely insane post of his. Brett, can you pull up the holding the bat? Yes. I mean, what is, you know what this reminds me of? This reminds me of the Gosar anime cartoon when he was killing AOC.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I mean, they go to the same fascist bizarro playbook every time and they think it's going to work for them. But, you know, time and time again, what we've seen is that people have, you know, just wised up to these sort of antics. And now we're just going to use this and brag and Jack Smith. I mean, they're going to use this as evidence against him for for whatever comes next. I mean, if there is a violent assault on in New York, you don't have to look much further than what Donald Trump has spoken and tweeted out over the last few days about violence and just the absolute lunacies coming from his account. That's people, but Republicans as a political party go all in to support this behavior. And that's what actually makes this unprecedented. I think 65 to 70% of the population
Starting point is 00:17:48 now looks at this and goes, this is insane. And I think that number grows each day. Yet institutionally, you have a MAGA Republican party that supports this. What they want to create, and you remember, it's all projection. So when they say things like the uniparty Republicans, whatever, what they want to create is a uniparty fascist state that looks up and idolizes Donald Trump and Jordy. You have to look at all of these posts in context with each other, right? So you have the baseball bat one, right? Of him looking like he's about to hit Alvin Bragg in the face with a baseball. There's no other way to interpret what, you don't have to interpret it. You look at it. And then you have him say things like, isn't it terrible that DA Bragg refuses to do the right thing and call it a day?
Starting point is 00:18:43 He would rather indict an innocent man and create years of hatred, chaos, and turmoil than give him his well-deserved freedom. The whole country sees what's going on and they're not going to take it anymore. They've had enough. There was no error made, no misdemeanor, no crime, above all, no case. They spied on my camp, rigged the alarm, falsely impeached, cheated, and lied. They are human scum. And so the tactic is dehumanize, call them scum, say the country had enough. And here's the other one where he goes after all of the prosecutors. District Attorney Bragg is a danger to our country and should be removed immediately, along with radical lunatic bomb thrower Jack Smith, who is harassing and intimidating innocent people at levels not
Starting point is 00:19:32 seen before. Get Trump, Letitia James, the worst attorney general in the United States, and Atlanta DA Fawnie Willis, who is trying to make perfect phone calls into a plot to destroy America, but reigns over the most violent crime scene in America and does nothing about it. I mean, look, all of that is false to begin with, too. Do you think that he found out that Mad Dog Jack Smith was too cool of a nickname? So he had to start calling him Radical Lunatic Bomb Thrower Jack Smith? Might even be a cooler nickname, though. Honestly, it might be. Might even be his pep up. Yeah. One of the things that I noticed that Trump does now is he just lists out all of his crimes like in posts or he lists out all of his crimes in videos.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Like he'll be like on a video or in a post, he'll be like, first it was the Russia, Russia, Russia. Then it was the perfect call to Ukraine. Then it was the this hoax. Then it was the that hoax. And you're like, like okay this is a helpful list this is this is helpful well well this is good to keep track of all the corrupt things that you have done and and geordie here's the thing though so as i said i said you're saying people
Starting point is 00:20:36 have had enough of it like let's talk about what they're talking about in the republican party and i'm not sure if you've seen these interviews he's given on the Fox Digital with Piers Morgan, you know, and the types of things that they're talking about, man, like as Democrats are talking about jobs and infrastructure and healthcare and protecting seniors and all of these things, you know, the Republicans are talking about like, oh, did I eat pudding with three fingers here? Play this clip from Piers Morgan, where one of the questions is whether he he ate pudding with three fingers. Play this clip. Have you ever eaten a chocolate pudding with three fingers? I don't remember ever doing that. I'm telling you, maybe when I was a
Starting point is 00:21:20 kid. But it's interesting. You know, there's a lot of people when you're when they go at you. Sometimes they have like really good ammunition, like you're a crook. You did this. You did that. For me, they're talking about pudding. Like, is that really the best you got? OK, bring it on. But now you're not having puddings. No, no, no. No way. It's sugar, man. You know, and then they talk about I mean, these are the issues. And then it's, you know, Piers Morgan asking him, hey, you know, you've been called the meatball and you've been called the sanctimonious. You know, respond to being called a meatball.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Play this clip from Piers Morgan if we got it. What's your favorite nickname that Trump's given you so far? Is it Ron the Sanctimonious or Meatball Ron? Well, I can't. Even he went off Meatball Ron. I can't. I don't know how to spell the sanctimonious. I don't really know what it can't even he went off meatball wrong. I can't. I don't know how to spell the sanctimonious. I don't really know what it means. But I kind of like
Starting point is 00:22:09 it's long. It's got a lot of vowels. I mean, so we go with that. That's fine. You know, you can call me you can call me whatever you want. I mean, just as long as you, you know, also call me a winner. You know, when DeSantis doesn't know which which he doesn't know how to handle this, and it's his fault because he supported the cult. And you, I've always said, do you, people go, do you think Donald Trump's going to be the Republican nominee? I'm like a hundred percent, a hundred percent. Trump's going to win in Florida against the Santas. And they go, why are you so confident? Why are you so confident? I'm like, cause it's a cult in North Korea. You can't get rid of Kim Jong-un, you know, the lieutenant,
Starting point is 00:22:45 the DeSantis lieutenant in North Korea, isn't going to take down Kim Jong-un. It's, it's a weird cult. And so like DeSantis doesn't know which way to go. Right. And so then they hit him on the flip-flop. So first he's like, so, uh, I'm supposed to like Putin. Right. So he says all the pro Putin stuff. And then he gets attacked by that because he doesn't have the support of the cult. So then he has to go back and Murdoch, through New York Post and through this Fox Digital, they all put it through the propaganda Fox echo chamber to make DeSantis call out Putin and say, Putin, you're a war criminal, right? Because traditionally saying that Putin's a war criminal is the right thing to say. Putin wants to destroy America.
Starting point is 00:23:32 So saying Putin is bad is a good thing, but not in MAGA Republican cult world. And one of the litmus tests for this is just look, for example, what Ben Shapiro basically said. So Ben Shapiro does this post and he does some weird meme and he goes, this is what he says. He goes, Donald Trump may be indicted by a rogue Manhattan DA. Naturally, his top target is Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida who has condemned the rogue Manhattan DA for as spurious possible indictment. And the photo has the Trump car going on the off-ramp to attacking Ron DeSantis or staying straight, attacking Alvin Bragg for malicious prosecution. This is Ben Shapiro's weirdo meme. But then the cult is like, uh-uh-uh, you're telling me DeSantis says he liked Putin?
Starting point is 00:24:20 You know, oh, I know. So they go, Ben Shapiro, why are you such a shill lately? Shapiro even shills for DeSantis. The same effing bunch of kids from the 2015-2016 Cruz crew are pushing for DeSantis. They are just equally insufferable. Little Ben Shapiro is leading the charge. Ben, I've been a huge fan of DeSantis, but his speech regarding the indictments were a huge letdown. DeSantis, an establishment candidate. Then there's a photo mocking DeSantis for taking a photo with a young schoolgirl wearing a mask. I mean, this MAGA Republican cult is so weird. DeSantis, each and every day, he's going to get knocked out of the race before he even steps in. He might even already be knocked out of the race at this point. I really don't think he
Starting point is 00:25:11 even has a shot and he's proven himself to just be so incredibly awkward. And even in those clips that we just saw from Piers Morgan, I think this was supposed to be one of his big interviews to kind of get him back to the spotlight as a real contender. And he's just completely flailing in those interviews. He's putting on this new kind of fake voice, like this kind of fake, oh, I'm a friendly Ron DeSantis guy kind of voice. And it just doesn't play well. He's just a phony. And the reason why the pudding story, I think actually has such an impact, despite how silly it is, is as Ben acts out eating pudding with, that's five fingers, Ben. He only does it with three fingers. It's a three dip. The reason why is because I think it plays to how stilted and emotionally and socially awkward
Starting point is 00:25:59 that Ron DeSantis truly is. It's one of those things that every time now Ron DeSantis truly is. And it's one of those things that every time now Ron DeSantis is awkward going forward, everyone's going to think, oh, it's putting fingers, putting fingers Ron over there. Putting fingers is a knockout punch. All Trump has to do in one debate is go, okay, putting fingers and it's over. It's done. Could you imagine if Trump posts Midas touch again? He already posted the story that we reported about DeSantis from a year ago where we broke that DeSantis would love to hang out with underage girls when he was a high school teacher. And imagine if he posted another Midas touch one with pudding fingers. Yeah. And just so in case you haven't been following the story and you're like, what the hell are they talking about?
Starting point is 00:26:45 This came from a Daily Beast story a couple of weeks ago. That was a whole write up on Ron DeSantis and how stilt up the kind of start to his little shadow campaign has been. And it had all these interviews with staffers on background that said how awkward he is behind the scenes. And one of the examples they used was that while they were traveling, they saw Ron DeSantis sitting by himself eating chocolate pudding out of a tin with three fingers. I think Ron DeSantis is really an... I know, right? I would normally call it a catch-22, but because it's Trump, I'm going to call it a catch-45. And what it is, is that he can't do anything correctly here without it backfiring on himself. Because if he tries to play the role of like, look, I'm not a Trump guy. I believe in everything Trump believes in,
Starting point is 00:27:31 but guess what? I'm a more traditional kind of Reagan Republican. I'm against Putin. I'm not going to get involved in this local prosecution of Trump. He tries to play that card, which is what he's doing right now. What happens is the base, the MAGA maniacs backlash, and they are not going to want to touch him. They're not going to want to vote for him the way we're seeing the comments. And by the way, he's just boosting Trump. So he's got't know what to do. I'm not sure. Did you see Laura Ingraham the other night? I mean, we did because that's what we got. So she had to go and explain because they don't know what to do. So they want to support DeSantis, but they created the cult and they kind of have to go all in on the cult that they created because all they care about is money. They hate our democracy.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So it's existential for them. So they have Laura Ingraham now trying to teach Donald Trump what to do. And this is the weird cult aspect. You have a network that despicably refers to itself as news when it is a propaganda and they do it for money. Like at the end of the day, they're willing to destroy the democracy just to make a few more bucks. You know, they could still probably have a very vibrant network if they were just, if
Starting point is 00:29:00 they kind of reported normally, they'd still make a lot of money. But this is what they've been reduced to, that they are now holding segments where you have Laura Ingraham, basically their top host, who's providing like, OK, here's what you need to do, Donald Trump. OK, number one. Here, play the clip. Now, let's move on to campaign advice for President Trump. Now, if I were Trump and running his campaign, I'd strongly urge him to stop talking about 2020.
Starting point is 00:29:32 It's over. Enough. Marinating in old claims of election fraud will not win over a single voter in any state that he needs to win in 2024. And it gives DeSantis an opening to say, why take a chance on the guy who just complained after the fact about early voting and ballot harvesting instead of beating Biden on both fronts? What the heck is that? And if you can't get, what do you got? It's just funny that they even have to put up this ruse, like they have to speak to him through
Starting point is 00:30:02 the TV. Like we know they all communicate with each other. We know they all text each other. They all email each other. They have their chats. Just call up Trump. That's clearly a message for one. But I think what Laura here, and we'll play the next clip before we get too into it. I think Laura is overestimating her power and the power of Fox News. I think it's a situation of the tail wagging the dog and not the other way around. They are controlled by their viewers. They are not the ones in control here and they are controlled by Donald Trump, not the other way around. So her trying to set the terms, she just way overestimates their power. And we've seen in these Dominion filings how weak that Fox truly
Starting point is 00:30:45 is and how subservient they actually are to the MAGA monster that they created. So then in addition after that, Laura Ingraham goes through a litany of other tips for Donald Trump. Just in case, Ben, here are some tips for you. Before you do that though, Jordy, you really like the idiom of the tail wagging the dog. I saw you like it. Really good. I've never heard that one before. So thanks for bringing it. It's a teachable show. You know, you learn stuff in every episode.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Last week it was milk toast and now it's the tail wagging the dog. I love it. And I also want to apologize because I think I was a little hard on you for milk toast because I think, I'm honest though, because I did reflect on it personally after that I like kind of made fun of you.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And I felt bad because I think we should be able to ask questions, you know, because not everybody knows everything and we shouldn't expect to know everything. And so I think we should just have an open forum where you should be able to ask a question. I am sorry. Because I do, I want to set a good example and I want to invite questions. Let's play the Laura Ingraham clip. I got something I want to say on the other questions. And let's play the Laura Ingraham clip. And I got something I want to say on the other side. So I'd suggest talk less about yourself, more about the American people. You met a lot of them. Voters don't want to replay the greatest hits about Mueller or Adam Schiff, but they do want you to assemble the most talented advisors and probably best to treat them well. Surround yourself with givers,
Starting point is 00:32:07 not takers. Serious policy people who know how to hit the ground running on day one. No more travel ban fiascos. Run a tight ship. And run against the Democrats, not the media. We all know the press is biased. You know, newsflash. Don't dwell on it. Deal with it. And maybe, just maybe, drop the nicknames and the petty personal stuff. It was funny in 2016 and even in 2020, but I don't think it works with how serious the challenges are right now facing the country. I sense that the voters are weary of all of that stuff. So debate your opponents on the merits. You know the issues. You have a great record. Defend it. It's unbelievable that this is in 2023. I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:50 come on. How pathetic. Do you know what you're dealing with at this point? I know Jordy has a lot of thoughts on it. Jordy, what's your take on this Fox and Laura Ingraham and everything that's going on over there? It's over for old pudding fingers. He's done. It's over. What they're trying to do with their coverage now, look, they had him speak to kill me over for old pudding fingers. He's done. It's over. It's what they're trying to do with their coverage now. Look, they had him speak to kill me. They had pudding fingers speak to kill me. The guys got more personality than a can of paint. I mean, you just can't do anything with that. It's not a presidential candidate. It is lucky he's getting the position he's in. They know it's over for him. So what now Fox News is trying to do, they're trying to course correct
Starting point is 00:33:22 in real time and they're panicking. And Brett, to your point, sure, in 2016, 2018, they could pick up the phone and talk to Trump. They don't want to do that anymore because they know the monster that they've created. They know the guy's plugged in watching their news station day in and day out because he's obsessed with the Fox News polls that they put out. So they're trying to address them right now. They're waving the white flag. Donnie, let's be friends again. Donnie, here, let's just do these things and we could all be at peace with each other.
Starting point is 00:33:49 It's over for putting fingers. It's funny. I have a similar take on it, but a little slightly different. I don't think they're done with DeSantis. I think they're hedging their bets in a big way. And I think they're hedging because I think they want to push DeSantis. They're trying to launder all the DeSantis propaganda through all their various networks, trying to write puff pieces on him in the Wall Street Journal, trying to get headlines for him
Starting point is 00:34:13 in the New York Post, trying to do all these cringy specials with Brian Kilmeade on Fox News and all the like. But I think they see pretty clearly that the force of Donald Trump outplays them every single time. It's far more powerful over their viewership than they are. Like I said, Geordie tail wagging the dog. They are not in control here. And so I think what they're seeing is DeSantis plummet in the polls. They're seeing Trump as basically a sure thing for the nomination indictment or no indictment or 10 indictments, doesn't matter. And they're trying to stay in his good graces for that eventuality. And so I think that's what we're seeing.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And I think the network itself is a little divided amongst their hosts as well. I think you have Laura Ingraham, who's actually quite intelligent, despite how horrible of a person she is, who is trying almost begging. To me, that is her begging, pleading on her knees on her show, please listen to me, please don't be a nut, please don't be a nut. And it's going to fall on deaf ears. Then you have somebody like Tucker, who's just all in on authoritarian propaganda. He knows he was exposed by the text saying that he hates Trump passionately. So he's going to spend all the shows saying how much he loves Trump to try to get back in his good graces,
Starting point is 00:35:29 saying how much he loves Putin, et cetera. That's the Tucker play. Brian Kilmeade is a DeSantis guy. For the DeSantis puff pieces, they push all that over to Brian Kilmeade. And Hannity is somebody who's still trying to stay in Trump's good graces, despite all the text messages that we saw, all the things he had to say about Trump. And Hannity is actually having Trump on his show, or is at least expected to have Trump on his show this coming Monday. That'll be the first time that Trump's actually been on Fox in, I think, over six months. So to just give you some perspective on how they've kind of changed as a network just recently and their recent kind of moves, you see they are having an internal identity crisis for many reasons. But one of them, this, this DeSantis Trump feud, which they just can't seem
Starting point is 00:36:11 to get a hold of. And here's the thing. Trump was attacking them when all of those Dominion filings were coming out, right? And it works on Republicans. A astonishingly that works. Like if somebody put in all caps, all that stuff about me, I would be like, I'd be like, who is this weirdo? Like, and frankly, that's how most people respond. Like, okay, you want to, you're going to make fun of me. You're going to call me, you're going to call me bad names, but two Republicans, two Fox, that actually changes their behavior. They get into panic. You know, I need to, like, I'd love to delve deeper in the psychology within cult behavior to understand how that all caps, you know, that creating this kind of far fear.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Trump's a coward. Trump's a coward. Like Like he's a weak coward. Like you confront that person one-on-one and he will shrink away. He's got less personality than a can of paint, Jordy. I can't let you get away with that. Thank you. That's a good one. No, that's a real expression. I don't know. I Goog googled it this doesn't exist um i i truly wanted to know if it was an expression if you know what it felt like an expression so and and then and but it actually works but i'll tell you who will be watching very carefully uh that trump interview the lawyers for dominion they're gonna have their popcorn ready and they're ready to make that the next exhibits for ratifying the conduct for punitive damages. They are ready to go with
Starting point is 00:37:51 that. And finally, because Fox is the master of projection and all these right wing people, they just literally project, project, project. I just have to show you this clip of Tucker Carlson. It doesn't really fit in anywhere neatly into the episode other than it's just like, oh, really? Play the clip. For the Chinese, it's just so easy. How do you win a war without fighting? By getting your adversary to kill himself. Well, how do you convince a strong, self-respecting, powerful country like ours that has ruled the world for 100 years to do that? Turns out it's pretty easy. You take a collection of dumb, desperate people in middle age, hoping to keep on to their stupid TV jobs.
Starting point is 00:38:30 You add scripts and some hairspray, and they just repeat the lies for you. So they just talk about themselves, right? I mean, how is that, when I heard that at first, I thought that was AI, and I wanted to like, I'm like, did he really say that? Or is that like an AI talk? Well, the most despicable thing is we know he knows what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Like we know what he thinks of his audience. We've seen those texts. We've seen him trash talk, call his audience dumb, call the Fox viewer dumb. So he's just playing one weird trick on his own audience. That's just wildly anti-fascist. They're all playing one weird trick on his own audience that's just wildly anti-Semitism. They're all playing a weird trick. They're all trying to kind of time the market, so to speak. And they're trying to read the tea leaves as to what people are thinking.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And oftentimes, they just fail spectacularly at it. Like the DeSantis Putin comments, for example, are an example of that. He comes out with a statement actually condemning Putin after just a week ago or so, he got in a lot of heat by calling the Russian invasion of Ukraine a, quote, territorial dispute. So what does DeSantis do? He does this Piers Morgan interview that we talked about where he comes on the other side. And then all the people in the comments to that New York Post, just like the Ben Shapiro post that we did, all the comments to the New York Post article are Trump people, are MAGA people, the Republican-based voters who are furious at DeSantis saying he's a member of the deep state and, oh, it's another Jeb Bush.
Starting point is 00:40:02 What a disaster this guy is, all because he had the nerve to say that Vladimir Putin was a bad guy. Maybe Ron DeSantis, the name could be Vladimir Putin. Wow. Interesting. Can you guys imagine what these debates are going to look like when they're all on stage? It's going to be- You believed in the vaccine, but you believed in testing. I mean, this is what- And those are some of the arguments that Trump has already even rolled out. Like, oh, Ron says he's anti-vax, but look what I found. It's already the most unhinged things ever. But this is what happens when you create a monster, you cultivate that monster, and you let it run loose on the party and on your country. It leads to the disaster that all these people, by the way, want to get out of, but they
Starting point is 00:40:45 can't because they are absolutely trapped. No doubt about it. Special counsel, Jack Smith, with a big mad dog psycho, with a big victory raising the roof before federal judge Beryl Howell and then the court of appeals with massive implications for Donald Trump's theft of many, many, many thousands of government records and his obstruction there too. We want to talk about Jack Smith's victory and its implications. I also want to talk about this big hearing that took place earlier today. It was one of these performative MAGA Republican hearings that backfired big time on them. Jamie Raskin was absolutely a hero. And the Democrats, they are fighting back and really, really, really,
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Starting point is 00:44:02 platform grow. So I was debating, do we go first special counsel Jack Smith, or do we go the Democrats kicking ass at the hearing today? And I think we go Democrats kicking ass at the hearing today, and then we can then talk about- Do you flip a coin? How did you decide? How did I do it? I really want to play the Jamie Raskin video clips and the Eric Swalwell clips. So that's kind of in my own mind, how I thought about it. And so what we've been seeing is the MAGA Republicans holding a lot of performative hearings. Americans care about issues like jobs and healthcare and protecting our veterans. And we want to make sure that America doesn't default
Starting point is 00:44:44 on its debt. But MAGA Republicans don't care about that. They've been holding hearings about Hunter Biden's laptop. Even hearings that aren't about Hunter Biden's laptop, all they ask about is Hunter Biden's laptop. They are utterly obsessed with Hunter Biden naked. It is so weird. It is so strange. And that's like when they were when they were talking to the twitter executives they were like and why'd you take that down and they were like because he's naked and it's him having sex why would we want to post that well well well that's that's weaponization no that's sex shame what why are you so obsessed with the hunter biden nudes like it's really
Starting point is 00:45:22 really strange so they've held all these weird hearings and Democrats keep showing how MAGA Republicans don't care about our democracy. And again, it is like a JV team going up against a professional basketball team, the Democrats being
Starting point is 00:45:39 the professional basketball team and the fascist JV team being these MAGA Republicans. Like this hearing today was part of a committee that deals with economic growth, energy policy and regulatory affairs. Right. So in today's, it was a joint hearing on economic growth,
Starting point is 00:45:57 energy policy and regulatory affairs. Okay. So are the MAGA Republicans focused on economic growth, energy policy or regulatory affairs? No, what they're focused on is abolishing the ATF. Okay, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Expl, manufacture, and possession of firearms and explosive, acts of arson and bombings, and the illegal trafficking and tax evasion of alcohol and tobacco products. So that is who MAGA Republicans want to abolish. So in this hearing that they held today, it was called ATF's Assault on the Second Amendment. When is enough enough? And these MAGA Republicans went into some of the most idiotic arguments justifying that weapons of war need to be everywhere. So even though in our military, the military version of the AR-15, military requires training. There's a thick handbook.
Starting point is 00:47:13 They have to pass tests if they want to be certified to use the weapon. However, in the civilian context, that weapon of war, anybody can have it. Just give it to anybody. Buy schools, wherever, no regulations. Let's not have common sense gun reform. So this hearing was basically to say, everybody should get AR-15s. That's the hearing that they held in a committee that's supposed to focus on economic growth and energy policy, by the way, and regulatory affairs. So this is the chair, Representative Pat Fallon. He's a MAGA Republican. And one of the things that he opened it up with was, why aren't we talking about regulation on alcohol or cars when people die from those things too?
Starting point is 00:47:57 Play this clip. Alcohol-related deaths in 2020, 13.1 per 100,000. We talking about regulating any more alcohol? We talking about banning it? We're talking about making new rules to make it harder to get alcohol? No. Deaths by car, vehicles, 38,824, 11.2 per 100,000. Anybody want to ban cars?
Starting point is 00:48:23 Any talk of that? No. I refuse to believe that people are that that someone this person is that stupid and he's speaking to alcohol tobacco and firearms the regulatory body that governs alcohol and he names the two things he names the two things as well that are perhaps the most regulated products in the country i mean it's hard to find things more regulated than cars which have very strict safety standards for the cars themselves and then very strict standards for who drives them in terms of age and licensing and requirements alcohol very strict rules govern the sale of alcohol and when you could sell it, where you could sell it, how it crosses state lines.
Starting point is 00:49:12 If you want to get into the argument about we should be regulating guns the same way that we regulate alcohol, tobacco, and cars, well, that's an argument actually that's going against yourself but i i refuse to believe that this guy is that's are we going to regulate cars no what was that also it's like this whole hearing and and this hearing is also they're really weird like like brett i i'll throw it back to you they're really weird people like what we can can never, like if you, you know, and like, I'm not trying to be like me,
Starting point is 00:49:46 you know, Ben's being me, like, like they are very strange. They are very weird. And they do things like that. They live in this alternative reality where sometimes I'm like, like who even talks like that?
Starting point is 00:49:59 Oh, we are regulating. Yes. Yes. We, we are regular. cause. Yes. Yes. We are regular. Next thing you know, are we regulating a tobacco?
Starting point is 00:50:13 I'm like, yeah, we are. And why the hell are you talking like that? Right. Right. You know, it's like, it's like the owl with the,
Starting point is 00:50:21 with the, how many licks do you remember back? I'm like, are you Count Dracula? Beyond being weird, sorry, Van Gogh, beyond being weird, they're evil. They're
Starting point is 00:50:36 intentionally evil. The weirdness is almost an escape. We're almost giving them an out by just calling them weird. They know what they're doing. They're just genuinely horrible people. It's just so sad that that's an elected official in this country. That person doesn't want to lead. They want to line their pockets with NRA money.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Next thing you know, you're going to want a license for driving a car. A home. An automobile. Don't tell me that that's what's coming next. An automobile, everybody. I mean, look at this person. Like I'm not joking. This is MAGA Republican Representative Tiffany.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I want you to watch the question he asks, because if I even preview it, I'm just going to ruin the ending. I remember, this is a hearing on guns. Mr. Wilcox, if a person lies on Form 4473 and is a user of unlawful drugs, you can get between five to ten years for that. Is that correct? Is that my understanding? No, I believe Congress changed the sentence last Congress. What is that sentence now?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Up to 15. Up to 15 years. Why hasn't Hunter Biden been prosecuted for the crime that he committed? I'm not aware of the facts of that case and can't comment on it. Okay. Who do we talk to to see why this case is not being prosecuted? I mean, he said very clearly in his book that he used drugs. He had a gun, at least a gun. Point of order, Mr. Chairman. State your point of order. Totally irrelevant and not germane to this proceeding.
Starting point is 00:52:09 He's got his five minutes. Go ahead, continue. Okay. I understand why you do not want Mr. Wilcox to answer that question. It's very clear why you don't want. Because there's a dual system of justice in America. That's what's going on right now. everybody's talking about it across america there's two standards of justice that are um that are going on oh there's a dual there's there's there's dual justice going on and so let me ask you this question how much uh how long in prison would somebody serve from putting a bomb in a facility?
Starting point is 00:52:52 15 years. Okay, well, what about Hunter Biden's laptop? What about Hunter Biden's laptop? Well, I see why you – and then a Democrat. Like a Democrat, like a normal person is like objection, point of order, not germane to the issues. Then he goes, well, I see why you wouldn't want to talk about that because there's a dual system. You don't want to talk about it because you're a freaking moron because you're an idiot. And what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:53:20 What is going on here? It isn't germane. You are absolutely insane. And honestly, that's why I say we can't be gaslit by large media networks to look at that and go, well, that's normal. No, it isn't normal behavior. Can I show you what is normal behavior? I was going to say that was some fire rhyming right there. That's not germane. That's insane. That was pretty good. You didn't even know you did it. You know what? Before you do, entire uh rhyming right there you want you want to that's not germane that's insane that was pretty good you didn't even know you did it you know what i before you do i just want to say
Starting point is 00:53:48 after watching these clips before we get into some of the normal folks uh forget pudding ron it's the whole pudding party they're all just so weird they are the pudding party uh that just i think sums up the weirdness of this entire party. They are all just so, so, so strange. What are we heading next, Ben? Oh, we should go to the nation's largest gun prevention organizations. So the question to ask Wilcox that doesn't even make sense anyway. Hearing aside, why would you ask somebody who's responsible for the largest gun prevention organization about Hunter Biden? The whole thing just doesn't make any sense. If I could make a suggestion, I would love to see this Matt Gaetz moment because this Matt Gaetz moment sums up exactly what I described a couple of weeks ago
Starting point is 00:54:53 when we were going over the Democratic hearings as the Republican Party are professional rake steppers. And Matt Gaetz, once again, threw out the rake and then stepped right on it. So he was criticizing this ATF policy for accessing data. And Rob Wilcox, the Everytown guy, informed him that actually the policies that he's criticizing, actually those were signed by Reagan. And Trump actually digitized more of those records, more than any other president. And you see Matt Gaetz in real time scrambling to go, oh, well, I'll just play the clip. The nonpartisan government accountability office issues a report in June of 2016, firearms data. The ATF did not always comply with the
Starting point is 00:55:39 Appropriations Act restriction and should better adhere to its policies. Mr. Wilcox, you're the witness the Democrats have invited here today. Are you familiar with that report? I am. And does the fact that the ATF broke the law concern you? The report, I believe, supported ATF's action in cataloging records to stop crime. I'll read from it. It says, a technical defect allows ATF agents to access data, including purchaser data, beyond what ATF policy permits. Do you take any umbrage with that conclusion? ATF has been collecting out-of-business records pursuant to a law signed by Ronald Reagan, and President Trump digitized more records than any other president.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I don't care who did it. I'm just worried about the impact on my citizens. And I would acknowledge there may be Republican presidents who didn't do enough in the 80s to protect our gun rights. In the 80s. Why? There's not even when presented with the fact, literally one second before the response, they have to lie. Everything has to be a lie. The witness just said Trump. And so you go back in the 80s. No, he just said three years ago. Exactly what you just are accusing Biden of doing. Trump did it three years ago. What I've kind of learned is that I actually don't think when push comes to shove that
Starting point is 00:57:02 Republicans even like Republicans. I don't even think they like their policies because they spend all these hearings going, how dare you follow this law? And then they get, yeah, so that law was signed in by Donald Trump. Every single hearing goes that way. So it's like, what are they even doing? Well, yeah, what are they doing? Because they don't have policies. The prism within they look at things is like, what is the dumbest position you can have on the issue? It's like, big global pandemic. We're for the pandemic. You're for the global pandemic? That's it. Yeah, we're for the global pandemic. Okay. The hero, Dr. Fauci, who in every administration basically identified how to cure all of these illnesses. Lock him up. Put that guy in jail. Dr. Fauci? Yeah, yeah. Why? I don't know. We're for their political prisoners. We're going to go to the prison and support no matter what the dumbest side of the issue is. And you can go through it. AR-15s are killing people through, you know, his number one cause of death for like,
Starting point is 00:58:15 like it's killing people like crazy. We're all for it. Just everywhere. More, more AR-15s. You can take every issue and then they find their way into that issue. I mean, look, this is during the hearing as well. There was an activist who was there who was somewhat noisy. And, you know, I mean, like, you know, the MAGA Republicans were saying some offensive crap up there. So one of the activists in the crowd were saying something like Fallon, this Pat Fallon, MAGA Republican, was like, oh, looks like there's an insurrection going on. He made an insurrection joke that the person yelling was an insurrection. So you'll listen to this, but then you'll hear David Cicilline, the Democrat from Rhode Island, saying, well, if they want to overthrow the government, then I'd have a problem with that.
Starting point is 00:59:01 But if they're just saying that what you're saying is offensive, that's fine. But just watch how callous and, again, weird these MAGA Republicans are playing. So, Mr. Bosco, your brace is not a ghost gun, correct? Is this an insurrection?
Starting point is 00:59:20 So will they be held to the same I don't want another January 6th, do we? If they're trying to overthrow the government, they ought to be held to the same standard. But I think they're trying to express. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me get away with my insurrection joke. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I'm doing the insurrection. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing? I'm doing January 6th. I'm making fun of the insurrection, the darkest day and one of the darkest days in American history that I'm pretending isn't real. I mean, these are real, problematic, you know, despicable, you know, people. I don't know what else to say, but let me show you some light in this hearing, though. This is Jamie Raskin, though, who's basically saying, look, and I love the way he refers to how Republicans view the Second Amendment.
Starting point is 01:00:07 He goes, seems that you have the insurrectionist theory of the Second Amendment. Play this clip. They know that the states with the highest rates of firearm firearm deaths are the ones with the weakest gun laws and the states with the lowest levels of firearm deaths have the strongest gun laws. But they say that all of this chaos and destruction is just the necessary price we have to pay because of the Second Amendment. All those thousands of people gunned down at church, in school, at the Walmart, in parks, in grocery stores, are just the human sacrifice we've decided to pay as a society for our Second Amendment. My colleagues, this is a lie. Our colleagues advance a completely flawed theory of the Second Amendment, which leads them to oppose even reasonable common-sense gun safety rules that the Supreme Court has approved in which the vast majority of Americans
Starting point is 01:01:01 endorse. Our colleagues embrace what's called the insurrectionist theory of the Second Amendment. Our colleague Mr. Gates says the Second Amendment is, quote, about maintaining within the citizenry the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary. Our colleague Chip Roy says the Second Amendment was designed purposefully to empower the people to resist the force of tyranny used against them. And Congressman Boebert says the Second Amendment, quote, has nothing to do with hunting unless you're talking about hunting tyrants, maybe. Well, this theory is completely debunked and destroyed by the text
Starting point is 01:01:38 of the Constitution itself and by Supreme Court precedent. And yet their theory of the Second Amendment is killing Americans. Article 1, Section 8, yet their theory of the Second Amendment is killing Americans. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Union and suppress insurrections and invasions. The Republican Guarantee Clause tells the U.S. Congress to guarantee a Republican form of government to the states and to protect them against domestic violence. There's six other provisions in the Constitution, including the treason clause that debunk what they're saying. And we're going to have to get through their false notion of the Second Amendment in order to save human life.
Starting point is 01:02:19 And I won't constitutionally geek out here, but just kudos to Jamie Raskin right there, Democrat Congress member. But you go into the Second Amendment. I mean, the Second Amendment's very clear, like what it says, right? A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, right? Republicans, oh, we're all strict textualists. Every word matters except in the Second Amendment, where they say a well-regulated militia being necessary to the
Starting point is 01:02:49 security of a free state. Yeah, those words don't matter. All we want to say is the right of the people to keep and bear arms. That's the only sentence that matters. And the other thing that Raskin mentions is Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15, which states the Congress shall have the power to provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union to suppress insurrections and repel invasion. So this isn't like some complicated jigsaw puzzle, like what do they mean by the militia? The militia is called upon by Congress to suppress insurrections. It is not what the Republicans say, that it is to be used for insurrection against the government. This isn't like, whoa, Ben, all of this logical constitutional analysis is right there. And I want to read this quote for you also, though,
Starting point is 01:03:40 because when I heard Jamie Raskin reading these quotes of what Boebert is saying and what Gates is saying, I'm reminded of this. Tell all of our viewers out here, I'll pause for a moment before telling you who said this quote, but let me read it to you right now. The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning in to a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful, and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control, right? That sounds a lot like what Boebert was saying, what Gates was
Starting point is 01:04:31 saying, and what Jamie Raskin referred to as the insurrectionist view of the Second Amendment. Jordy, you know who said that quote? Was that Voltaire? Was it Tucker Carlson? Voltaire. I love you, Jordy. Is is it tucker no it was timothy mcveigh the oklahoma city that language is essentially the same exact language that MAGA republicans use word for word and when marjorie taylor green talks about the base the base the base that is who she is talking about we still have a lot to talk about with special counsel, Jack Smith. I'm not done talking about that committee hearing, Brett. I want to show a few other clips there as well, but let's just take one quick break.
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Starting point is 01:07:29 corner office. So Jordy, when we left off, you had mentioned Voltaire and what are you talking about? I got to probe a little deeper. Who are you talking about? Voltaire? No, me and my buddy Voltaire. Voltaire, yeah. What even would make you have Voltaire on your mind right there? My mind doesn't work like a lot of people's minds work, okay? The synapses are firing. Yeah, they're firing in all cylinders. They just fire a different way than yours fire.
Starting point is 01:07:57 And if we can, if we can. So I'm the loopy brother, right? We all know this. We know I'm the loopy. Yes. So when I was three years old, Brett and I were playing baseball at a park, and I took a baseball bat to the face.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Now, I had a tremendous shiner. Now, it was totally by accident, and I've since forgiven Brett, so it's okay. I had a crazy black eye. There is no doubt in my mind that I got a concussion on that day. And now my brain works a little bit differently than your guys' work. Can I tell you what I think you were thinking? First off, I don't agree with that.
Starting point is 01:08:33 But number two, I think that you were actually had some brilliance there and why you thought of Voltaire and you meant Voltaire, but you were thinking about all of the volatility that is being created by MAGA Republican fascism. But one of Voltaire's very famous quotes, as you certainly know, Jordy, is those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. And that sounds very much like MAGA Republicans and their gaslighting. So, Jordi, I would say incredibly, incredibly brilliant. And I want to show you this clip as well. This is from Congressman Eric Swalwell, who apologizes to activists. We don't have to show this clip, but at one point,
Starting point is 01:09:17 the MAGA Republicans kick out the activists because they were speaking in the room. They said, basically, get the women out of here. And it was the mother of someone who had died in the Parkland shooting. But this is Congressman Eric Swalwell apologizing to the activists for being attacked and also wondering, seriously, Hunter Biden's laptop, that's what we're talking about? Play the clip. I want to thank the activists who have stayed in this fight for gun safety, reasonable gun safety. And thank you for showing up today. I'm also sorry that you were targeted earlier. You know, the same people that want to have you arrested and put in jail want to go to the D.C. jail this week to take the January 6 terrorists
Starting point is 01:10:03 out, if you can believe that or not. Probably shouldn't be surprised that this hearing has deviated to include Hunter Biden's laptop. And for such a serious issue like this, I would encourage my colleagues to go through Hunter Biden's laptop on their own time. Whatever they want to see in there, they should do that on their own time and not when we have such an there, they should do that on their own time and not when we have such an important topic like gun safety. And by the way, that is someone there,
Starting point is 01:10:31 Congressman Eric Swalwell, who MAGA Republicans vilify because he's smart. He's just giving facts. I'm not watching there someone who's acting strange. He's just saying to the activists out there who have lost loved ones, we're sorry that you a very serious subject, you have MAGA Republicans talking about Hunter Biden's penis. And that's what they're talking about. And we should just be clear, like, what are you doing? What are you doing? There are real serious issues here. And in the United States of America, we don't want our children and loved ones to be shot and killed in mass shootings because
Starting point is 01:11:26 there's a proliferation of AR-15s and weapons of war. Let me just be very clear about my position about the Second Amendment. I believe that there's a right to bear arms. I believe that people can have guns. I believe that people can go hunting. I don't think we should take guns away from people. I believe in people can go hunting. I don't think we should take guns away from people. I believe in responsible gun ownership. I believe there should be common sense regulations.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Ironically, or not ironically, the way there is when we're talking about the licensure of cars and when we're talking about tobacco and when we're talking about alcohol, especially when we're talking about weapons of war, especially when we're talking about weapons of war, especially when we're talking about weapons of war, responsible gun owners who I talk to, they don't cosplay weapons of war. Responsible gun owners want there to be common sense regulations. They're not the ones out there who are putting the guns in their crotch and taking photos of it. They're not the ones out there taking photographs with their kids holding AR-15s who don't even know how to hold the guns correctly. They're not the ones out there
Starting point is 01:12:40 cosplaying this thing. Responsible gun owners should want, and every responsible gun owner I know do want, other people who own guns to be responsible. That's what we're asking. This should be a common sense conversation that we all engage in, yet MAGA Republicans cannot engage in anything with any level of seriousness. And here's a clip too that I want to show. This is a Democratic Congress member, Cori Bush, who points out, by the way, you know how the MAGA Republican talking point is, here's the Democratic areas that have the highest mortality rate, that have the highest mortality rate by guns and the most violence. No, it's happening in Republican areas. That whole MAGA Republican narrative is complete and utter BS. Here, play this clip.
Starting point is 01:13:28 In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden. Nine of the 10 states with the highest gun mortality rates, including my state of Missouri, are red states. Brett's about to pull up a great photo for me and Brett that reflects on when I did, in fact, get hit in the face with a baseball bat. I need to confirm. It happened. That Jordy's thing about Volatar and Voltaire. And so if we have this photo of Jordy, I just got to show it.
Starting point is 01:14:03 There is what I was looking down for. That's what I'm saying. There you go. So Jordy, give the context to that, please. So that's what I'm saying. So this is why my brain works just a little bit differently than your guys's does. Yeah, I took a straight baseball bat to the eye. And then it was a running joke in our family like, oh, Jordy's so loopy and funny. And yeah, but thinking back on it now that I'm 30, whatever, now that I'm 29 turning 30, I have to say like, yes, funny that I was loopy as a kid, but like, it's very specifically because of that one moment.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And like, we just don't address it as brothers. And I just, I wanted to bring it up. It's such a 90s moment too, because that was at the height of the Got Milk ads. And so like, what a weird time the 90s were. Like this was the entertainment we had in the 90s. Like the Got Milk ads were very popular. We used to collect those like lunatics. People used to collect them.
Starting point is 01:14:54 When we would go to the dentist's office, we would open up the magazines and like rip them out. That was... I'd love to hear in the chat, like did our listeners collect Got Milk ads like they did on Long Island? Like people around around schools and our elementary school would collect the ads, they would laminate them and put them in a binder, and then they would trade out the Got Milk ads. They also did it with absolute vodka ads. Do you remember that too? It was a very weird time in the
Starting point is 01:15:19 90s and those were very popular. And so we made our own Got Milk ad, which was that picture. And it was at the time after that I accidentally hit Jordy in the eyeball with a metal baseball bat. And that's where you have it. But see, I mean- And that's where you got Volatar. That's where you got Volatar. 47 years later, that's where I got Volatar from. That's where it all came from. Full circle. That's so good. That's so good. Full circle. And talking about full circle though, how about special counsel Jack Smith completely engulfing Donald Trump from all sides? I mean, Donald Trump is basically, I think pretty much boxed in at this point. I mean, and by the way, special counsel Jack Smith still hasn't said a single word publicly.
Starting point is 01:16:08 So with all of the Donald Trump, everything in caps, everything chaotic like that, Jack Smith is just going about doing his work in a very diligent worksman like manner. And talk about special counsel Jack Smith's big win, compelling Evan Corcoran, who is Donald Trump's lawyer, to testify again before the grand jury. So Evan Corcoran previously testified before the criminal grand jury in connection with Donald Trump's obstruction of justice relating to hiding and concealing these documents, thousands of government records at Mar-a-Lago. And so Corcoran was the one who was working with Christina Bob to ultimately prepare that attestation, that declaration under penalty of perjury that was given to the FBI and the top
Starting point is 01:17:04 counterintelligence officials at the DOJ, which said that a diligence search was performed at Mar-a-Lago. A diligence search was not performed at Mar-a-Lago. They said they had returned all of the documents and they had given this red-weld legal folder back that has about 37 new classified records back on June 3rd of 2022. The whole thing was total BS. There was thousands of more records still at Mar-a-Lago, over 100 classified records. Well, Jack Smith filed a motion to compel further testimony because Evan Corcoran refused to provide testimony about his discussions with Donald Trump about
Starting point is 01:17:46 what went into the attestation, what type of search was performed. And here's the thing we learned about Evan Corcoran. He took notes. There's handwritten notes. There's audio recordings. And so there could be potentially a treasure trove of records. So a hearing was held last Friday before Judge Beryl Howell, who was the former chief judge who presided over the criminal grand juries there in Washington, D.C. There's now a new federal judge. And Obama appointee, it's a rotating position of who serves as the chief judge.
Starting point is 01:18:29 So a new judge will be in that position right now, Judge Boasberg. But Judge Beryl Howell found that the crime fraud exception applies, meaning that Donald Trump, in her ruling, it's under seal, but this is what all the reports are. And there's nothing to say that anything to the contrary happened, that Donald Trump engaged in a criminal scheme, a criminal scheme, and was either using Evan Corcoran wittingly or unwittingly, but was involving his lawyer in an ongoing criminal scheme to obstruct justice. Think about the power of that. So then Donald Trump immediately appeals that to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, immediately appeals. And guess what? Within about 12 hours, the DC Circuit Court
Starting point is 01:19:22 of Appeals had a briefing schedule and then shut down Donald Trump's appeal. I've never seen an appeal move that quickly before that an entire briefing schedule was done in 12 hours and then the motion was denied. How big is that? I've really, that moved at a rapid pace. You know, people say the judicial process works slowly. That was faster than I've ever seen anything happen. But I think it shows you they're feeling the urgency of this moment. And what Donald Trump did, and potentially what Donald Trump is still currently doing to this day, I think is on the minds of prosecutors. I mean, he illegally took, and remember the crime here, obstruction, mutilation of documents. I think they think that it is still ongoing and have reason to believe
Starting point is 01:20:09 that Donald Trump still has confidential documents in his hands. And the idea that he was lying to his attorneys and they invoked the crime fraud exception shows now that they are going to be actually able to question, like they did today, Evan Corcoran directly about these potentially illegal activities that Trump is engaging in, because they've been piecing all the pieces together throughout this whole process. So they, at this point, know already what Trump is lying about, and they'll be able to know exactly what he lied to Corcoran about if that is the case. And I wouldn't be surprised myself if somebody like Corcoran or somebody from Corcoran's team is the one himself leaking this out there because you know the Justice Department has been very tight-lipped about all of their cases. And so you have to wonder
Starting point is 01:20:55 who stands to advantage from a leak like this coming out. There was a big New York Times story that just dropped right before, I'm talking right before we went live, that it was titled Court Action Underscores Peril for Trump in the Documents Investigation. Federal prosecutors continue to build a case that the former president obstructed efforts by the government to reclaim classified materials that he may have misled his own lawyer. Things just continue to get worse here for Donald Trump, And these charges are just becoming more and more serious by the day. I'll read just a few portions from this New York Times piece so you get a sense of the urgency in which the Justice Department is working and what's
Starting point is 01:21:37 happening here behind the scenes. According to this New York Times reporting, they say, quote, according to wisps of new information that have seeped out of sealed court filings and closed door hearings, prosecutors believe they have compelling evidence that Mr. Trump obstructed the government's efforts. That's the crime right there, folks, to reclaim the sensitive records and may have even misled, aka lied to his own lawyers. The more recent developments stemming from efforts to force testimony and other evidence from the lawyer and Mevin Corcoran in federal district court in Washington indicate that prosecutors have continued to build the case and that the inquiry remains a serious threat to Mr. Trump. Judge Howell laid out damning assertions made by prosecutors that
Starting point is 01:22:21 Mr. Trump knowingly deceived the government and caused Mr. Corcoran to misstate to prosecutors, lie, where the documents were being held at Mar-a-Lago. They note Mr. Smith's office is likely still far from making any charging decisions. Still, the accumulation of details emerging from the proceedings suggests that Mr. Smith and his team are drilling down on every scrap of evidence they can find in assembling an argument that Mr. Smith and his team are drilling down on every scrap of evidence they can find in assembling an argument that Mr. Trump may have impeded a federal investigation. And for their part, some of Mr. Trump's aides have stated plainly, if privately, that the government, and in their minds, Judge Howell, see Trump as a criminal.
Starting point is 01:23:01 And that is very clear from these court filings that we are seeing out here. So this is moving now at a pretty rapid pace. I think a lot of people, I think, were getting ahead of themselves when we heard that the grand jury in Manhattan was delayed and they were like, oh, it's probably to make way because Jack Smith's going to indict. No, that isn't happening. That's not why. This is still a little bit away. But you could see that the wheels of justice are turning in DC with the federal case against Donald Trump. And Evan Corcoran, by the way, not the only Trump attorney to see a grand jury in federal court. There's another attorney, Jennifer Little. Jennifer Little counseled Donald Trump in the Fulton County case, and she's being called now before the grand jury, and people are starting to speculate why Jennifer Little would be called
Starting point is 01:23:58 in the federal investigation. I know it's hard to keep track. We've got the accumulation right now. We've got this Venn diagram between New York and Georgia and the federal government, all kind of merging in weird kind of ways. Jennifer Little, they say, counseled Donald Trump to be cooperative and left the case soon after Mr. Corcoran was bought on by Mr. Trump. did not have to turn over a document she had sought to withhold from prosecutors. The Times notes prosecutors are interested in Ms. Little because she was one of the few criminal defense lawyers working directly with Trump when the Mar-a-Lago matter heated up at the Justice Department. So as we say on the show, folks, make attorneys get attorneys. It's looking like a lot of Donald Trump's attorneys now have to have their own attorneys. They're under their own forms of criminal investigation. And in many cases, they now have to speak out against their client, Donald Trump, and implicate him
Starting point is 01:24:57 in this criminal scheme that Judge Howell pointed out. That's what's going on. And then you have former Vice President Mike Pence, right? I mean, that's what's going on and then you have uh former vice president mike pence right i mean that's that's big time also i mean that hearing taking place uh earlier today uh former vice president pence is claiming that he should be treated as though he was a united states senator and that the speech and debate clause immunity, which immunizes senators and members of the House of Representatives who engage in legitimate legislative activity from having to testify in proceedings like this, that that immunizes him. Because he argues on January 6th, he was focused on being the president of the Senate, that he was focused on being the president of the Senate. And it's like, come on, well, the speech or debate clause clearly, clearly states that it relates to House of Representative members and members of the Senate. That's it. And so, you know, I think it's a BS argument. And then even if you get beyond that,
Starting point is 01:26:08 maybe you were in that ceremonial position just for that day. Yeah, it sounds like. Like in that moment, like you wrote a book about it. And in the United States versus Gravel case, the Supreme Court case, which delineates the limitations and provides the full scope of speech and debate clause. I mean, yeah, you got to add you got to add to your Mike Pence impression. I'm a Christian. I'm a husband. I'm a Republican. I'm a senator. You got to got to just keep going. I'm a senator at times when it when it's when it's legally convenient. Exactly. Exactly. I just want to let you know
Starting point is 01:26:47 I'm a Christian. I'm a Republican. I'm a conservative. I'm a senator. I am a mosquito. I'm a little teapot. I'm a little teapot. I'm a little teapot,'m a little teapot sure i'm a little teapot short and i am volatile what was the air you were hidden uh when we came back from break look like some
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Starting point is 01:28:11 Finally, can we get to some team normal news, please, though, with President? Please, let's get us some team normal news. And this is celebrating the 13th anniversary of Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act. Look, this is what it's all about, right, at the end of the day. I mean, like, these are real issues. And so when we compare kind of the MAGA Republican chaos, we talk about what Democrats are doing. Like, what are we really talking about? We're talking about jobs. We're talking about better paying jobs. We're talking about wages with dignity, not just living wages, wages with dignity. We're talking about better paying jobs. We're talking about wages with dignity, not just living wages, wages with dignity.
Starting point is 01:28:48 We're talking about looking after workers, protecting workers, protecting working conditions. We're talking about lowering prescription drug prices. We're talking about making healthcare affordable and accessible. We are talking about making education affordable and accessible. We're talking about protecting our seniors. We're talking about protecting students. We're talking about protecting the most vulnerable in our society. We are talking about equality. We're talking about protecting our veterans, right? Like these are tangible things. And, you know, we have fun on this show because, you know, I think sometimes if the one, I like to have fun.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Great. I like to have fun. Fun's good. But number two, with all of the seriousness of the news, sometimes it is helpful to reflect on the absurdity of it all. But at the end of these episodes, I do like to kind of pull back a little bit. Ground us a little bit. And I really do want to focus on that. These issues, though, truly are life and death. They really are. They're really important. And when the MAGA Republicans treat it like a game and pursue policies that promote death over life, we can't stand for it. We can't stand for it. We can't. When you look back at Obama's presidency
Starting point is 01:30:28 and you look at the Affordable Care Act, you look at Obamacare, you look at the fact that tens of millions of Americans who didn't have healthcare, didn't have healthcare in the United States of America, if you got sick, you could die because you didn't have a right to have your health taken care of or looked after or to get life-saving treatment. And you look at President Biden too, his policies,, the various pieces of huge legislation that he promotes and he's passed. But we're just talking about, you know, things as important as lowering prescription drug prices, right? We see every day another story because of Biden's policies, a pharmaceutical company lowering the cost of insulin to that $35 a month mark that is there under Medicare.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Those are policies that make a difference in people's lives. That's what government should be about. Look, if I want to watch fascist cosplay idiocracy, maybe I'll watch some zombie apocalypse movie for an hour and a half, but I don't want the zombies running my government. I don't want the dystopian societies that I can, in my escapism, watch for 90 minutes on whatever streaming service I watch. I don't want that to be my actual life. I want my government to do things for the people, to deliver for the people. And so I want to show you this clip of Biden who talked about what a big effing deal it was and reflecting on that moment where he said what a
Starting point is 01:32:22 big effing deal it was. Here, play the clip. Thirteen years ago today, we gathered in this room as President Obama signed into law the Affordable Health Care Act. Hard to believe, 13 days, 13 years ago. It seems like 13 days ago. I think it was the most consequential piece of health care legislation since the creation of Medicare and Medicaid in 1965. I talked to the president yesterday. I got a chance to speak with him. We did a little thing together. And it's an extraordinary achievement by President Obama.
Starting point is 01:32:55 And while the Affordable Care Act has been called a lot of things, Obamacare is the most fitting description. Obamacare. fitting description. Many of you joined us that day after fighting for decades to make it happen. And I remember three words I used at the time. I thought it was a big deal. And I stand by the fact it was a big deal. I also called it at that time Historic Day because history is not merely what's painted and printed on walls and textbooks. It doesn't begin or end with the stroke of a pen. There you have it.
Starting point is 01:33:43 I mean, that's what I want in leadership at the end of the stroke of a pen. There you have it. I mean, that's what I want in leadership at the end of the day. Do I agree with Biden on everything? Do I agree with Democrats on everything? I don't. But unquestionably, they are adults in the room actually confronting the objective reality that exists and trying to solve big problems and trying to use their positions to help people and frankly, to help a lot of people who don't support them. A lot of people in the MAGA cult, at the same time they are fed this diet of disinformation from right-wing propaganda media, they're benefiting from Obamacare. They're benefiting from a lot of these social programs that work. They're the recipients of that. They're benefiting from policies that help workers and
Starting point is 01:34:42 that bring more jobs and from infrastructure projects. And President Biden doesn't go, you know what? I'm a Democratic president. So, you know, Trump wouldn't help the wildfires out in California because he said, screw California. President Biden's like, I'm going to help the factory workers in Alabama. I'm going to help the factory workers in areas that haven't voted for me. It's fine. You cross the country. It doesn't matter whether you're a red state or a blue state.
Starting point is 01:35:14 You are an American. I just wish our discourse was like that. And I truly do wish, as we do the Midas Touch podcast, that when I showed you the clips, they were far more boring. And it was just a debate over degrees of the policies and like, okay, we all agree that there should be common sense gun reform, but we're talking about perhaps the type of pre-qualification requirements. Not that there should or shouldn't be pre-qualification requirements to get weapons of war, but we could talk through what that looks like. And then we can say, well, maybe is that going too far? But can we all accomplish the goal that we don't want mass shootings in schools? And we're not living in that time. And I want to. And I think the way
Starting point is 01:36:14 we can all do that collectively together is to realize that we're the solution. The movement is the solution. The pro-democracy community is the solution. It's up to you. The might is mighty. I'm honored and privileged that I get to do this podcast with my brothers, that I get to spend this time with you, that I could help be a messenger. But you are my inspiration because you go out there, you share the videos, you share the YouTube channel, you subscribe to the YouTube channel, you let people know, you share these
Starting point is 01:36:52 videos, and you're out there fighting for democracy. Without you, this is impossible. It doesn't work. This doesn't work. So thank you. I mean, from the bottom of my heart, thank you, because none of this is possible. Together, with your help, we'll be able to fight back against it. Brett, I'll give you the last word. Well, it's just so important to see the normalcy after the absolute lunacy that we saw earlier on in the show. And to show that, luckily in this time, I don't want to say it's all luck though, because you know what? We all put in the work and everybody voted and
Starting point is 01:37:32 showed up and a lot went into that. So I don't want to just write it off as luck, but you know what I mean? That luckily we have somebody right now in the White House who actually is a politician who is looking out for all Americans. And it may be more boring, like Ben said, to see clips like that, but those moments are really what America is all about. And that's really what we need to get back to. I mean, somebody talking about expanding Medicare coverage as far and wide as possible. Somebody applauding North Carolina, who by the way, has a Republican legislature who overwhelmingly approved an expansion of the state's Medicaid programs that's going to give roughly 600,000 additional low-income residents health care. You have President Biden making sure to congratulate them and praise them for that move because it's really not about party. I mean, I remember when I was out of college,
Starting point is 01:38:26 how much the Affordable Care Act helped me reflecting on it because it allowed me to take risks and allowed me to actually follow my dreams. And I can't say that Midas Touch would even be a thing if not for the Affordable Care Act because I got to take advantage of the provision that lets you stay on your parents' plan until you're 26, which allowed me to move out to Los Angeles and take gig jobs on TV shows and on movies and things like that, which are jobs that often just last two to three weeks at a time or a couple months at a time. But having the Affordable Care Act allowed me to retain health coverage while I did that, while I pursued my dreams, which in turn allowed me to get a job on a television show where I was able to get my own healthcare, which then gave me the skills I needed that allowed me to be an executive in the film industry, which allowed me
Starting point is 01:39:14 to then start Midas Touch. So it really affects a lot of people's lives. And in that aspect, I mean, think about it. It helps entrepreneurs too. It helps you be entrepreneurial if you're able to take risks like that and not have to worry about getting in a life or death situation and not being able to afford healthcare that you need. So these are things that really affect people's lives. I know they've for sure affected mine and I'm super thankful for these policies. And that's why we're in this at the end of the day. We're not in this for the craziness, but it just shows you what we're up against, but also what we are all bringing to the table, which is real positivity, which is real patriotism, not phony patriotism. It's not about standing in front of a flag and talking about everything that the flag is against, but it's actually being patriotic, actually caring for your common man. And that's where we're here to push forward every single day. Jordy, final words. I feel like this has been an amazing episode. Shout out to the Midas Mighty. I don't mean shout out to the Midas Mighty.
Starting point is 01:40:19 I just mean huge shout out to the Midas Mighty. Thank you for listening. Thank you for the March to 1 million. We are getting super close for the Midas Mighty. Thank you for listening. Thank you for the march to 1 million. We are getting super close for those 1 million subscribers. Thank you to everybody subscribing to the audio podcast. Everybody checking out that merch at store.midastouch.com, supporting our great sponsors who do the show. Lomi, Roan, check the description in the video to get the great deals that we worked out for you.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Jordy, any final words, buddy? Yeah, I just want to say, Midas Mighty, we love you so much. And thank out for you. Jordy, any final words, buddy? Yeah, I just want to say, MidasMighty, we love you so much. And thank you for everything. We are so close to 1 million YouTube subscribers. So please, please subscribe if you're not subscribed. If you're not subscribed by now, I don't know what to say. Hit subscribe. You want to get in before the million just because you want to say you were there when
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