The MeidasTouch Podcast - Jack Smith drops NEW Trump SUBPOENAS as MAGA LUNATICS call for Violence

Episode Date: December 13, 2022

On today’s episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast, Ben and Brett dissect the most consequential news of the week: Marjorie Taylor Greene is caught on video bragging about her ability to violently overth...row the US government, Judge Aileen Cannon officially throws in the towel, Special Counsel Jack Smith drops subpoenas on Trump world, Kyrsten Sinema switches her party affiliation to Independent, Elon Musk goes on a deranged attack on Dr. Fauci and is booed mercilessly at a Dave Chappelle show, and much more! Shop Meidas Merch at: https://store.meidastouch.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/meidastouch Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 American Psyop: https://pod.link/1652143101 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 charge bet mgm operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming ontario nothing says MAGA like this weekend's new y City Young Republicans event featuring Marjorie Taylor Greene giving a speech about leading an armed insurrection with Steve Bannon and thereafter also discussing sex toys at department stores. the heck is going on Brett? Judge Eileen Cannon officially dismissed herself from the case brought by Donald Trump trying to cover up his theft of thousands of government records and top secret records. She dismissed it for lack of jurisdiction after getting absolutely slammed by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. Special Counsel Jack Smith, he's busy, he's hard at work, just subpoenaed Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger for the D.C. Federal Grand Jury investigating Trump's 2020 election interference crimes. And this is signaling that I think we are moving closer to an indictment. Looks like Jack Smith just dotting his I's and crossing his T's. And right-wing Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh was spotted partying at the Christmas party held at the home of Matt Schlapp.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Now, who's Matt Schlapp? None other than the chairman of CPAC. And who else was partying with Kavanaugh and Schlapp? Accused sex trafficker Matt Gaetz, neo-Nazi Sebastian Gorka, propagandist Sean Spicer, MAGA extremist Stephen Miller, and Blackwater's Eric Prince. That's the crew that was out there. That's the crew. These right-wing Supreme Court justices aren't even pretending to care about ethics anymore. And Dominion's $1.6 billion, with a B, lawsuit against Fox is heating up with Rupert Murdoch set to be deposed this week.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And with Dominion seeking massive sanctions against Fox for spoliating or destroying emails and other messages of critical witnesses like Sean Hannity and others. Kristen Sinema announced that she will stop pretending to be a Democrat and will now officially be a special interest hack. So pathetic. And this just in, 2,319 text messages from Mark Meadows were obtained by Talking Points Memo, and most have now been made public for the first time. Let's discuss what these messages say, some blockbuster stuff in these messages.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And Elon Musk is booed in San Francisco at a Dave Chappelle show after spreading disinformation almost on an hourly basis at this point and threatening Dr. Fauci and others on Twitter. It's really beyond the pale and just so, so disgusting. But we will talk about it here on the Midas Touch podcast. I'm Ben Micellis, joined by Brett Micellis. Jordy Micellis is on his never ending honeymoon, apparently. I think even the viewers are wising up to this and are being like, come on, he's still away. But I know what the viewers and listeners are also really concerned about, aside from missing Jordy, and we all miss Jordy very much. They're concerned about you, Ben. How are you feeling? I know you've been sick these last few days. You get a case of the woke mind virus or what's going on over there? It was definitely the woke mind virus, which then the woke mind virus, it starts there with
Starting point is 00:04:50 all the wokeness and then it becomes upper respiratory. And then before you, and then before you know it, you know, you start coughing and you're up late at night. It's just, it's just what wokeness will do to you. But no, in all seriousness, I think I'm doing better. I mean, if you watch some of those videos I've been making recently, you look pretty brutal. But we're powering through it. I feel good enough to do the show. And I want to thank all the Midas Mighty out there for your outpouring of support.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I appreciate it. I can't even tell you, Ben, how many emails we've also gotten with homemade remedies for you, various drinks and teas. I've been making them. I've been following the remedies. There you go. Well, I'm happy you seem to be on the mend. Don't push yourself too hard, but you know what? We got a lot of news to cover, so why don't we get right on into it? So this New York City Young Republicans event and the New York City Young Republicans before Trump, it was a relatively kind of moderate group of Republicans. And, you know, they were, you know, people who were trust fund kids and they would pretend that, you know, that they were the scions of business.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And it was kind of clownish and silly, but that's who the New York City Young Republicans were. Now it's just a full-fledged fascist movement because that's just who the Republican Party is. And this event just typified it to a T. So in attendance at this event, you had white nationalists like Peter and Lydia Brimelow of the far right white supremacist website, VDARE. You start learning all about these things when these events are. And there's some things that you don't want to learn about. I'm like, oh? This is 4chan, 8chan, VDare. You know, they live in these echo chambers. But it's the thing we'll talk about later on the pod is that, you know, when Elon Musk
Starting point is 00:06:55 actually goes in front of a crowd of people and he's surprised that he's getting booed, it's because you're saying really hateful and disgusting stuff that impacts Americans who are too busy to be going to these cult rallies. We're too busy to be dealing with you and your ridiculous echo chamber. Americans are out there and they care about jobs. They care about healthcare. They care about education. They care about their freedoms, a woman's freedom over her body. We care about being able to marry who you want to marry without the government saying, you can't marry that person because that's LGBTQ plus. How dare you marry that? Or that's too woke or this or that. Americans just want to go on with their life and have hobbies and spend time with their family and not deal with any of this
Starting point is 00:07:46 right-wing MAGA fascism. So when they step into the real world out of these echo chambers, they get booed and they lose elections. And they're like, how did we lose this election? It's because Americans hate you. And Americans hate you not arbitrarily. It's because you're doing things to kill Americans. You're affirmatively harming Americans. And look, you look at this event too and types of things they're talking about. Also in attendance, you have the white supremacist and pizza gate peddler, Jack Hoodie, proud as his last name, Brett Posobiec. Posobiec.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And it took me a really long time to figure that out. Yeah. You got Bannon. You got Trump Jr. You got Marjorie Taylor Greene. You got the far right opinion editor of Newsweek, Josh Hammer, and others. And you got the incoming GOP House Republicans in attendance as well, because that's kind of like what you got to do now. This is part of like the pledging ritual. You got to like pledge your extremists by going to these events and supporting insurrections. But like we saw that there was a headline that came out and I was like, I need this video to emerge too, because I knew the video was going to be more powerful than just the headline. Because
Starting point is 00:09:02 it was reported that she had said something about if Bannon and I were involved in the insurrection, we would have won because we would have been armed and we would have made sure that we won. And then I saw the video. This is not just disqualifying. Everything she says is disqualifying. The very statement itself, it's just how low the Republicans have fallen that this is just to be expected of who they are. But play this clip, Brett, because it's like she's the leader of the Republican Party, right? Kevin McCarthy takes his orders from her. She's not a fringe character in the Republican Party. These are fringe characters in America. But these people run the Republican Party now.
Starting point is 00:09:51 That's who they are. Here, play this clip of Marjorie Taylor Greene at the New York City Young Republicans event. I come to Washington. I swear in on January 3rd, I get accused of giving insurrection tours, which I thought was hilarious because I couldn't even find the bathroom in the Capitol. True story. Then January 6th happens, and next thing you know, I organize the whole thing along with Steve Bannon here. And I'm going to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won. Not to mention, it would have been armed.
Starting point is 00:10:39 See, that's the whole joke, isn't it? They say that whole thing was planned and I'm like, are you kidding me? A bunch of conservatives, Second Amendment supporters went in the Capitol without guns and they think that we organized that? I don't think so. Again, spreading more conspiracies and disinformation about these armed violent insurrectionists who attacked, killed one police officer, attacked and nearly killed a number of other police officers, caused Officer Fanone, for example, to have a heart attack. And she's talking about it, that she would have made sure that everybody is armed and just the whole routine there, Brett, of like her on stage like that in the gala in that way, talking in those terms. Everything about it is so dystopian. What's your
Starting point is 00:11:35 take? No, it's so dystopian. And also it's gaslighting because first off, she and Bannon were very much involved in January 6th. And also it was an armed insurrection. There were a lot of guns. And we've also seen through these court cases in which people have been found guilty. People have been convicted for seditious conspiracy against the United States. We've had testimony about these armed caches at hotels nearby and how people were armed.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And we heard in the January 6th hearings how Trump wanted nobody to even have to go through the metal detectors to get into the area because he said, they're my people. They're not going to hurt me. They're not going to hurt me. This entire thing is just a bunch of gaslighting. Multiple people died. And let's really break down what Marjorie Taylor Greene is saying here. She is saying that she would happily execute police officers and politicians in order to overthrow the government of the United States of America. I mean, we got to be clear about what she's actually saying here. And it goes along with this whole QAnon notion of the storm is coming, which just means basically Trump is going to
Starting point is 00:12:40 return to power. We're going to execute all the politicians. We're going to execute anybody on live TV who gets in our way, and we are going to reinstall Donald Trump as dictator. That's the storm that's coming. And that's kind of what Marjorie Taylor Greene is referencing there and what she's saying. And then of course, she gets blowback for her statements. And thankfully, Patriot Takes actually found the tape and Patriot Takes put it up. They do such great research, such great work. And that video was going around like crazy and the White House released a statement about it. And Marjorie Taylor Greene goes, I was being sarcastic. It was sarcasm. What, the White House doesn't understand sarcasm these days? This is part of her exact statement. She said, the White House needs to learn how sarcasm works. My comments were making fun of Joe Biden and the
Starting point is 00:13:29 Democrats who have continuously made me a political target since January 6th. She may have been joking around in the beginning of that clip when she goes, oh, and it's all my fault for January 6th. But when she turns and she says, if it were me, it would have been successful and we would have been armed and we would have won. There's no joke there. There is zero joke there. Once again, such a Trumpian move of being like, oh, what? It was just a joke, man. It was just a joke. I was just kidding around. And it's really just absolutely disgraceful. And she has all this victim complex that just runs rampant in the Republican party. Oh, whoa, is me. They're targeting me. They're twisting my words. They're
Starting point is 00:14:11 taking me out of context. No, you are saying despicable things. You are doing absolutely despicable things. And I also want to parse her words just a little bit more too. When she says we would have won on January 6th. Let's think about that for a second, because I think that is important. Who is the we in that scenario? Marjorie there is putting herself on the side of the terrorists who tried to overthrow our government and saying that she wished they succeeded in overthrowing the United States government. So there you have it, Marjorie Taylor Greene. And it just got weirder and weirder from there. And Brett, before you talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene talking about sex toys at CVS,
Starting point is 00:14:56 before you go there, what I do want to say though too, is this follows the pattern that we've talked about on the Midas Touch Network and on our podcast, where they are so weak, they don't even stand behind what it is that they say. And it's like they go out there, they make the statement, and then they lie about it and go, I never said that. Why are you coming after me? I was just being sarcastic about it. This was a never said that. Why are you coming after me? I was just being sarcastic about it. This was a joke. I would never do such a thing. And it's like, it's just one of the other aspects about them that I think is so pathetic is just how cowardly they are. And you
Starting point is 00:15:41 see it with all of them, but like Donald Trump, okay, this is how you feel. Well, why don't you have your deposition taken and you could go talk about how you feel. You want to show up before the January 6th committee and speak to them and say how you feel? You have an opportunity to show up. Oh, you don't want to do that? Marjorie Taylor Greene, every time she makes one of these comments, she goes, oh, now they're attacking me.
Starting point is 00:16:04 My life's on the line. That's part of what she said in the statement too. She goes, I get death threats all the time. It's like what we're confronting is the fact that you as a, and this is ridiculous to say, as a leader of a major political party just gave a speech talking about armed insurrection with an individual, Steve Bannon, who was just held guilty of contempt in a federal prosecution in Washington, D.C. And Brett, do we have her text messages also? Just pull up some of the Marjorie Taylor Greene text messages. How about the one where she texts with her and Kelly Loeffler, where she says to Kelly Loeffler, hey, hi, Kelly, I've organized a meeting with President Trump, his legal team, and members of Electoral College votes for Joe
Starting point is 00:16:53 Biden in several key states on January 6th. It's tomorrow at two o'clock. Can you come to the White House? It's an informational meeting and planning session. She sends that on December 20th of 2020. And then her message on January 17th of 2021. And she goes, in our private chat with only members, several are saying the only way to save our republic is for Trump to call for martial law. I don't know on those things. I just wanted you to tell them. This is to Mark Meadows. They stole this election. We all know. They will destroy our country next. Please tell them to declassify as much as possible so we can go after Biden and anyone else. It's just madness. Martial law. She's at the planning session. I'll note also, it's completely misspelled too.
Starting point is 00:17:46 She spells it like the name Marshall and not like Marshall Law, which I noticed also in the trove of Mark Meadows text messages that were released today. One of the other Republicans who was asking them to declare Marshall Law also misspelled it by the name of the person. But these were the serious thoughts of Republicans, not just at the time, but currently. They want a way to overthrow the government of the United States of America. And that's not normal. That's not okay. And I think in that beginning, that first text with Loeffler, when she's talking about that planning session, I believe this is the footage in the aftermath of that planning session of Marjorie Taylor Greene
Starting point is 00:18:24 leaving it and speaking about January 6th. And I'll play this clip briefly. Just finished with our meetings here at the White House this afternoon. We had a great planning session for our January 6th objection. We aren't going to let this election be stolen by Joe Biden and the Democrats. President Trump won by a landslide. Call your house reps, call your senators from your states. We've got to make sure they're on board and we already have a lot of people engaged. Okay, stay tuned. These people are the worst, man. They're the absolute, absolute worst. All right, Brett, I'm sorry I interrupted. Now tell us about what she talked
Starting point is 00:19:02 about with CVS and sex toys. Yeah, I was about to go on this big butt plug and dildo Marjorie Taylor Greene rant, and you just stopped me abruptly. And I don't think I could ever forgive you for that, man. But I'll forgive you just because you're sick, and I know that. But I want to emphasize right now that, once again, Marjorie Taylor Greene is speaking in front of the young Republicans. It's not even like she's speaking for a group of just any day Republicans. This is supposedly the young Republicans. And she decides to, I don't know, not only bring up fomenting a violent insurrection against the
Starting point is 00:19:37 United States of America, but she goes on this bizarre and unhinged rant about butt plugs and dildos saying, by the way, you know, you can pick them up at Target and CVS nowadays. This country is just going to hell. And I know it's unbelievable. Let me play the clip. By the way, you can pick up a butt plug or a dildo at Target and CVS nowadays. I don't even know how we got here. Gay marriage. Yeah, and first, and also, you hear the one person in the crowd also when she says, I don't know how we got here, and the person at the end screams out, gay marriage.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Like, these people are just the most despicable people who really cannot tolerate anybody else having the same rights as them. It's really, really, frankly, absolutely disgusting and miss morality over here on her high horse. Let's not forget that this is the same woman who reportedly cheated on her husband with a quote, this is true, tantric sex guru, and additionally, a manager of the fitness gym that she attended. And she is now, and her divorce has not went through yet, although her husband has filed for divorce. I believe she's now dating one of the OAN hosts while she is married or separated or whatever. I mean, this woman is the worst example for children on the planet. She is absolutely a disgrace. She is a vile human. And why is she talking about violent insurrections and butt plugs and dildos in front of the young Republicans? For
Starting point is 00:21:12 people who like to call, who throw the word groomer out a lot, it sure seems like there's some grooming going on at the New York City Young Republicans event. It was like she was asked the question. No, it was totally like, you know, it was like we were speaking about Herschel Walker the other day before the election when Herschel Walker decided to take it upon himself to be like, yeah, you know, like you ever get that feeling when you go into a movie theater to see a kid's movie and you feel like a total creep because you're in there with all the little kids. And we're like, no. And no one asked. No, I've never felt that way. It's also like, all right, we talk about vampires and werewolves here as well? Like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:21:50 In this speech, you can talk about any issue you want to talk about. And what you're bringing up is sex toys at department stores and that that is bothering you. You know, I told you, Brett, that I had read that article about Marjorie Taylor Greene's origin story. It was so interesting and shed a lot of light. Was that from The Atlantic? I think so. I think it was an Atlantic article. What I didn't realize was that she's wealthy. She comes from a wealthy background. Her father started a real estate development business. And she went to, I believe, University of Georgia. And she met her husband, who she's now divorced with.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And the husband took over her dad's business. And he was the one who ran the business and kind of kept it going. And she really didn't do anything with the business. And then she, because she had these kind of vast resources, took that and then, you know, kind of launched these like radical right-wing extremist attacks with all of the resources that she had. But I had never realized that background, but it also puts it into perspective too, that her husband or former, soon to be former husband was the one who actually took over the family business from her dad. And this is all of the things that she does to him while she wants to like lecture people on the sanctity of marriage. But Brett, as she's also talking about sex toys
Starting point is 00:23:19 at CVS, what was the big issue on the right wing network Newsmax today? They were like they're just following that Fox playbook like to a T. Like, let's pick the issue the way. OK, is it Green M&M Day? Is it CVS sex toy day? Are we going to Dr. Seuss? Are we going are we going Disney to woke? Are we wait?
Starting point is 00:23:48 Are we going Mr. Potato Head? It's like Americans don't give a shit about any of these things. And this is their policy. This is what the right wing cares about. You know, they get infuriated by pronouns. How dare you? How dare you throw your pronouns at me? What are you talking about? How dare you? How dare we throw our pronouns at me what are you talking about how dare you how dare we throw our pronouns on you that's what you're that's what you're angry about like literally but that's these are the issues that they care about but this is what newsmax talked about newsmax was really really focused on the fact well let's just play the clip before i don't want to then then just ruin it but i'll let everybody watch it for themselves then let's comment on it play the clip so you want people to stop buying American girls and all
Starting point is 00:24:27 the all the stuff the accessories that you can buy as well. I how long has this been going on with American girls I took my 6 year-old to the store in Rockefeller Center like the American girl experience and you know typically girls that are into American girls they they get a doll that looks like them and you can get an outfit that you know so you can can match your doll. We were in there and my daughter's just a cute little six-year-old white girl. We couldn't find anybody that looked like my daughter. It was the whole place, it was like woke-ified. It was actually, it was kind of a bizarre experience. How long
Starting point is 00:25:00 has this been going on with American Girl? You know, I think it was in the early 2000s that they sort of changed their brand to girl empowerment. Okay, the funniest thing, though, too, I mean, it's disturbing. It's not funny, but their faces, you would think that they're actually talking about an issue that really matters. Like, number one, they're lying about everything they're saying. The fact that American Girl has dolls that reflect the diversity of our country now and the world is a good thing. But here's the American Girl website. It clearly has white American Girl dolls. Plenty of white dolls. Plenty of white dolls for your cute little six-year-old white girl daughter. I've never heard anybody refer to their child like that. I got a cute little six-year-old white girl. Anybody use that kind of language to describe their own child? The people on the panel are such fools. Just play part like, just play it one, just play part of it. Just like,
Starting point is 00:26:05 I want to show our audience their faces because they're treating this like this is the biggest issue. They're like, just play, play part of it one more time. And look at, look at the faces of the panel. Like this is the biggest issue that's confronted them today. So you want people to stop buying American girls and all the, all the stuff, the accessories that you can for them today. So you want people to stop buying American girls and all the all the stuff the accessories that you can buy as well. I how long has this been going on with my 6 year old to the store center like the American girl experience wait wait wait typically girls girls they get a doll that
Starting point is 00:26:40 looks like them and you can get an outfit that you know so you can match your your. Wait for it. We were in there and my daughter, she's a cute little six year old white girl. My daughter, she's like a cute little six year old white girl who talks like, these people are literally in like I need to find more deranged, insane, like disturbed. Like and that's what they talked about today. That's what they talked about today.
Starting point is 00:27:17 They weren't talking about health care. They're not talking about student loans. You know, by the way, the Supreme Court just took the other student loan case where a Trump judge in, you're still loving the clip, that the Trump judge blocked Biden's student debt cancellation. The Supreme Court agreed to take that case. Like, we could talk about those issues, things that actually impact Americans. We could talk about those issues, things that actually impact Americans. We could talk about gas prices decreasing. They sure love to talk about when gas prices increase because the Republicans cut deals with the Saudis. They sure love bragging about selling American interests to foreign countries.
Starting point is 00:27:59 But it is beyond, beyond. I'm just happy they moved away from testicle tanning. I mean, that was a weird era, but I'm sure they'll be back in full force pretty soon. They will absolutely be. I was going to try to make some transition about Trump having no testicles or getting his testicles cut off by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, but I got to work that transition a little bit better. So I'll just throw out that that's where I was going. But we'll just say after the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals cut Donald Trump's testicles off and said that Judge Eileen Cannon should never have asserted jurisdiction in the first place. And we've been saying here all along, I would
Starting point is 00:28:41 always get asked people, they'd be like, so how's this federal judge Eileen Cannon, like why is she even involved in this case? And I would be like, look, I genuinely don't know because she has no right to be in the case. Equitable jurisdiction means that only in the most rare circumstances where the government engages in such a callous disregard for the rights of an American citizen, not merely unlawful. Callous disregard is a higher standard than just being unlawful. So what the law says is where the government is so callous in breaking the law, a federal judge can just jump in there, assert what's called equitable jurisdiction, and say, let's press pause for a second because the government's just gone rogue. And to be clear, there is zero precedent anywhere in the country ever for what Judge Eileen Cannon did to assert jurisdiction where there is not a finding that the government engaged in unlawful conduct, yet alone the higher standard of a
Starting point is 00:29:56 callous disregard. So I'd like to believe that I did a very good job predicting what was going to happen next. But following the law, following case law, the one question was, though, is the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals and the United States Supreme Court, are they going to pull a cannon? Are they just going to throw all the laws away? Where will they draw the line? We'll talk about in a moment that you got Brett Kavanaugh at the CPAC party, partying with Matt Gaetz and Sebastian Gorka and Sean Spicer and Stephen Miller. So, like, they're a pretty screwed up right-wing extremist court, the areas where they drew the line and the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals drew the line that Judge Eileen Cannon should not have asserted herself in this case. And so, of course, on December 1, we got the order from the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. Trump did not appeal. So the mandate issued, meaning the transmittal of the order from the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals to Judge Cannon, directing her to dismiss the case. Let's pull up Judge Cannon's dismissal
Starting point is 00:31:12 order where she dismisses herself from the case. This cause comes before the court following the 11th Circuit's opinion vacating the court September 5th, 2022 order and instructing the court to dismiss the underlying civil action in that case. Pursuant to that opinion and the associated mandate, it is hereby ordered and adjudged that this case is dismissed for lack of jurisdiction done and ordered. It says some other stuff, but I'll leave it there. Great job, Cannon. Goodbye. Great job. Great job. Goodbye. Bye-bye. See you later. Was it worth it? Ridiculous to do all that
Starting point is 00:31:53 then to just make a fool out of yourself by dismissing yourself after you were smacked down by the 11th Circuit. Just the whole thing is so ridiculous. What a complete and total waste of time. What a complete and total hack that this woman is. Just a whole thing is so ridiculous. What a complete and total waste of time. What a complete and total hack this woman is. Just a total complete hack. It's so funny because I remember when the search warrant was executed. I think we were coming back from Washington DC, Brett, and we were on a plane when it was executed. Then I think we were at... I'm trying to remember, we were together over the summer at some event where Judge Cannon- ATC maybe?
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah. But we were at an event over the summer. Anyway, the event that we were at is irrelevant. But the point that I'm trying to make though, is that I was just like, what? What is she doing? And then you dig deep into it and you're like, she's just making this up. And not only is she making it up, she's not doing a good job making it up. Her explanation was that Donald Trump's reputation would be harmed and that she wanted to protect his reputation. How pathetic of an explanation can you even give to- Here's a funny side fact of the show. I just got a text from Salty, who is one of our editors and producers here at the Midas Network, and he is confirming our own schedules for us. He's going, you were at Jordy's wedding. We forgot it was Jordy's wedding.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Thank you, Salty. We were at Jordy's wedding. I think we were coming back from the wedding. I don't think the day was, I think we had went to DC afterwards. But any event, thank you, Salty, for confirming. So goodbye, Judge Cannon. But as I was mentioning though, Brett, maybe you want to talk about this Brett Kavanaugh. He's out there. We know Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearing talked about how he loves drinking beer. I mean, how embarrassing and pathetic can you be? We also know that Brett Kavanaugh had a million dollars plus of a mortgage that was like just mysteriously paid off. And like, no one knows like how that happened. We also know that, um, the FBI, the Trump FBI, by the way, when everyone talks about like the way bill barr is a democrat now
Starting point is 00:34:27 like we don't like bill barr let's we don't like we don't like the bar he's corrupt a trump appointee christopher ray's now a democrat bill barr's a democrat they're so rhinos that they're democrats they're part of uh they're part of biden's plan christ Wray and Bill Barr wanted to help Biden, according to the right wing now. I knew there was the deep state, but damn, I didn't know it went that deep there. All of the conduct in their stupid Twitter files, the dumbest thing I've ever even heard of in the world. All of their things. Trump was the president at the time. It was the Trump government.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Trump was literally the president doing it. And they're like all like very basic, obvious things. They wrap up as like revelations. Like on January 7th, the plot began. That's what he said. Oh, I wonder perhaps if maybe there was maybe an event on January 6th that may have put the wheels in motion for the Twitter safety team, which has now been disassembled, by the way, and we'll get to that later in the show.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Maybe they want to get together and see what to do about a government leader, a president of the United States, perhaps inciting an insurrection. Totally random meeting, I'm sure. Totally random meeting on the 7th. Ben, if we can, can we get back to Brett Kavanaugh boofing Matt Gaetz? Sorry, sorry. I'm taking you guys. I'm taking you.
Starting point is 00:35:44 It's my upper respiratory distress. I'm taking you on a lot of journeys today. But get back to Kavanaugh boofing. It's my upper respiratory distress. I'm taking you on a lot of journeys today, but get back to Kavanaugh. So while I can't confirm that squee was present, I can't confirm that there was, I cannot confirm that there was boofing going on. You like that poll? You like how I have squee in my mindset? Now I just have squee on the tip of my tongue at any point. I can't confirm if squee was there. I cannot perform, confirm or deny if there was a lot of boofing going on and do yourself a favor and Google the urban dictionary definition for boofing or don't,
Starting point is 00:36:17 if you're about to eat a meal or, or don't want to be disgusted, but here's what I can confirm happened. The show is off the rails tonight. Spotted at Matt and Mercy Schlapp's annual Christmas party. As you said, the people who run CPAC, the people who run CPAC sounds a bit, I don't know. We are all domestic terrorists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:39 The event with the we're all domestic terrorists. That was all the schlapps. And you got Justice Kavanaugh there. You got Matt Gates. You got Matt Gaetz. You got Ginger Gaetz. You got Sean Spicer, Alex Acosta, Sebastian Gorka, Stephen Miller, Chad Wolf, Greta Van Susteren, and a whole host. I mean, Eric Prince, just like some of the world's worst people partying together.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Disgusting. I mean, I don't understand how you get away with this as a Supreme Court justice and then go on the bench and make rulings that directly involve these people a day later. I just can't even fathom ethically how this is allowed. I understand that the Supreme Court doesn't have to follow ethics rules. Seems like a big oversight to me. Seems like something that we should change probably because to me, this is just absolutely insane. How is this okay? It's not okay. It's absurd. I can't even just tell you how sad, I was going to say offensive, but it's sad to me going to Georgetown Law and being such a believer in the system, right? And studying the legal precedent and studying constitutional law and having a view that being a Supreme Court justice is such a position and to now reflect on it and to feel just so kind of conned. But I guess the glass is half full part is that not conned by pro-democracy, not conned by Democrats, but just this whole movement of the federalist society,
Starting point is 00:38:27 the whole movement of this right-wing extremism where they call themselves strict textualists, states' rights, strict constructionists, only when it benefits them. Only when it benefits them. Like in the second amendment, let's read out all the other language other than the right to bear arms. Let's not even read the well-regulated militia part. They go, that part doesn't matter. Yeah, we say every word has a meaning, but where it says well-regulated, sure. It's the only amendment that actually uses the word regulation in it and has the word militia. We're not going to let you in on this part. up and they claim to be the protectors of whatever it is, right? Marjorie Taylor Greene, I am Miss Morality, family, freedom, da, da, da, da, da. Everything she espouses goes directly against all that. Everything she espouses and does, all of her actions, she is an adulterer. She's cheated on her husband numerous times reportedly. She is a horrible person who
Starting point is 00:39:45 tried to overthrow the United States of America. She wants the government to attack private companies because she disagrees with the decisions of those private companies. That's not freedom. That's not conservatism. That's not morality. None of that is. With Kavanaugh and these Supreme Court justices on the far right, they espouse that they are these constitutionalists. Could not be further from the truth. That is just a facade while they rip the Constitution away, while they tear apart the foundation. And Donald Trump, to his credit, is the only one who's really honest about any of this stuff, tweeting out, let's just destroy the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Let's terminate the Constitution. He's the only one who's actually willing to admit it, at least. But that's the ideology of all these people on the far right. They all want to terminate the constitution. They all want to terminate all these rules in order to serve their own interest. That's what it's all about. End of story. They go, we are for states' rights. We state Supreme Courts, state constitutions are sacred. Except when it comes to federal elections, then only the state legislature is important. And let's come up with a theory. It's called the independent state Legislature Theory. And because the Constitution has some provision about the state legislature set the time and manner of federal elections,
Starting point is 00:41:12 what they really mean is that the state constitutions don't matter at all, nor do the state Supreme Courts matter at all. That's like what the right-wing belief is in putting forth this independent state legislator doctrine. Even though legislatures emanate from a state's constitution, the argument is that the state legislature is more powerful than the constitution then the Constitution, then created it. I mean, they just make the stuff up. There is no coherent ideology other than an ideology of taking Americans back to a time where they feel that their privilege is protected. That's what it comes down to. I want to talk now, though, about some big developments in the Dominion lawsuit, the $1.6 billion, with a B, defamation lawsuit brought by Dominion against Fox. Rupert Murdoch set to be deposed on Tuesday and Wednesday. They set two days for that deposition.
Starting point is 00:42:28 At this point, Dominion's deposed pretty much everybody in the Fox orbit, the CEO, all of their, the Hannity's of the world and the Janine Pirro's all of the world. And now you're going to get a 91 year old Rupert Murdoch who's going to go in there. Many people who are familiar with this say that Rupert Murdoch is basically going to pretend that he doesn't know anything. And he's going to kind of do the act of like, I don't know. I'm not really paying attention. My kids run it. A classic Rupert Murdoch move.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Lachlan Murdoch was deposed last week. You had Hannity was already deposed as well, and Maria Bartiromo was already deposed. And one of the key pieces of evidence here, which if I've ever seen a smoking gun, it's this correspondence that Dominion was able to get in discovery by Fox CEO, Suzanne Scott, who after the 2020 election, this is what she said. She said, quote, we can't give the crazies an inch. And that's such a damning statement from a legal perspective, because one of the things that Dominion will have to show in their defamation case against Fox, because it's an issue of public concern and Dominion's a public figure for purposes of this lawsuit, is that Fox acted with actual
Starting point is 00:44:00 malice. So the fact that Fox would know that these individuals are crazies, I mean, you could have inferred that. I don't think you need to necessarily this email, but to have this in a message is so powerful. But the fact that Fox says, don't give the crazies an inch, the CEO, and not only do they give the crazies an inch, they let the crazies take over the network. Dominion's going to put that and post that right in front of the jury. And this $1.6 billion lawsuit, there are a number of other lawsuits filed as well by other individuals who Fox defamed.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And this really does pose a serious threat to Fox. They could really be hit with a $1.6 billion verdict in this case. And so in addition to Rupert Murdoch being deposed, one of the other developments is that Dominion filed a motion middle end of last week for spoliation sanctions against Fox. In other words, arguing that Fox had deleted and destroyed key emails intentionally and or recklessly of people like Hannity and Suzanne Scott and other high ranking executives. Forget the Twitter files. I want to see the Fox files. Could you imagine what these correspondence of these Fox hosts and Fox executives are with each other, with Republican politicians, with the Trump campaign? They got to be some of the most
Starting point is 00:45:35 damning messages that you could possibly see showing complete coordination and proving beyond a shadow of a doubt, which we've already seen in the communications that were leaked in the January 6th investigation, that Fox acted as nothing more than a propaganda arm of the Republican Party and of the Trump administration. I mean, literally you had messages between Sean Hannity and Mark Meadows and Laura Ingraham and Mark Meadows and all of this direct communication literally telling the Trump administration what to do, how to act. I mean, staring you in the face right there. But apparently a lot of these other messages and emails were destroyed by Fox. Now, spoliation sanctions could lead to what's called an adverse inference
Starting point is 00:46:26 if the judge, in this case, the judge is being assisted by a special master. Remember, this case is actually filed in a Delaware Superior Court. This is a Delaware State Court action. And so if the court finds spoliation, an instruction can be given to the jury, infer the worst. Infer the worst about why they deleted these messages. Make an adverse inference that they were trying to cover up and conceal their misconduct. And so we will keep you updated here. But Brett, let's talk about these text messages that surfaced. 2,319 text messages.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I know you've been on this story and you've been looking through some of these messages. Yeah, I certainly have not, full disclosure, I certainly have not looked through all 2,319 of the text messages, but- You haven't? You told me before the pod that you looked at every one, even though it was released in minutes. What a letdown. I know, right? I know. I'm really letting the team down today. We have an interesting dynamic without Jordy because that wouldn't normally be where I'd make fun of Jordy with something like that. But you take it now.
Starting point is 00:47:33 No, no, no. But I want to get to the 2,319 text messages. And I also want to get to these Jack Smith updates raining down subpoenas on Trump World. But first, I want to talk quickly about Patreon. Hey, you know, this is one of the first unapologetically pro-democracy networks out there, but it's so much more than a network. We like to view it here as a community and we could not do these live broadcasts without you. We are people powered, we are democracy fueled, and it's all because of you. So if you're able to, and no worries at all, if you can't
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Starting point is 00:49:45 breaking news. And this is one of the cool things about doing the live shows with you and being truly live, live that we could break news. Ben, you got to tell everyone about the show because it's so relevant to what's going on in the country right now. I know, just, I'm not going to- So Bakersfield is Kevin McCarthy's district. That's what we focus on in this three-part docu-series on Hulu. It's called Killing County. And it focuses on a lot of the cases that I was involved in when I was a civil litigator. Before I did Midas Touch, I was a civil rights lawyer. And I spent a lot of my time in the Bakersfield, Fresno area,
Starting point is 00:50:27 working with families who lost loved ones to police brutality. And there was one case that I worked on, which opened the door to all of these other cases that I worked on. And not only that, but it brought national attention to Bakersfield and to the Kern County area in general. And it was then determined as we were there that it had the most police shooting deaths per capita anywhere in the United States in Kevin McCarthy's district. And that they had the highest homicide rate as well within Kevin McCarthy's district. And hey, and this is thematically too, right? What I was talking about, what does Kevin McCarthy, what did he say nonstop? Crime, crime, crime, crime, crime.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Kevin McCarthy's district. He's in Killing County. He's called Killing County. Literally called Killing County in this show. It is the murder capital of California. Sorry. The case that I had, so in 2013, there were, there was reported in Bakersfield that there were two suspects who were killed in a police shooting or a police shootout. And one of the family members of one of the people who were shot came to me and they were like, Hey Ben, we know that there's no way that our son would just shoot at the police. Can you dig into this? And so what we found out, because his girlfriend at the time had a phone app that was able to get his text messages because she thought that he was cheating on her.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So she kind of installed this spyware on the phone, which in normal circumstances wouldn't be great, but here it was very helpful. It turned out that he was talking to the police the night that he was shot and killed. And then it turned out that he was a police informant and that he was actually working with the Bakersfield Police Department. And then it turned out that the Bakersfield police department, they were keeping confidential informants off the books because they were using confidential informants to sell drugs into the community. And some of the Bakersfield police officers were the top drug dealers in all of Kern County, and they were running a drug cartel in Kern County itself. And so one of the people who we focus on, the cop, the former cop who was then sentenced to five years,
Starting point is 00:52:54 even though the DOJ asked for 15 years, the federal judge in Kern County was a retired cop as well and gave the cop only five years and not the mandatory minimum of 15 years of a sentence. But it turns out that that cop, well, one thing to mention about that cop too, which makes it go extra crazy, that cop was also who the Disney movie McFadden USA was based on. I mean, just a crazy coincidence because disney owns hulu that cop appears in the documentary and just admits to all of his wrongs in the in the doc that we like it is three parts it is incredible and and i didn't mean to take too much of our time on the phone once once we have a trailer released we got to play it for the mightiest mighty on this show because you know i
Starting point is 00:53:43 think it's gonna be jan January 12th, the trailer's crazy. January. Okay. So in January, we'll hopefully have the trailer. We'll show it to you. And I remember, first off, congrats. I'm so happy for you. And I remember how much time, I mean, before Ben was the YouTube guy, this was like the crux of a lot of what Ben was doing. These police shooting cases, Ben did a lot of work in Bakersfield then. And so this really is, I bet it's just so rewarding for you so that the masses now could hear the truth and see what was actually going on there. Ben, is it a miniseries? Is it a miniseries? It's a part docu-series. And the way we tell it is kind of a, I hope I didn't give too much of it away there. No, no, no, no. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:54:32 It's based on a true story. But the way we tell it is in a kind of a true crime mystery kind of arc in three parts. But then it starts with the shooting that takes place in the four point Sheraton. And then though it expands to tell the stories of all of the other families in Bakersfield and Kern County that I worked with. And so it's really cool to have a show on Hulu. I executive produced it with Colin Kaepernick, the incredible Robe Embriano and the other people at Hulu. And I'm so excited to share that with the world and to show you the executive producer side of what I do. That's huge. It's so important also.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I'm so excited for folks to see and learn the truth of what's happening in that district and in that county. But anyway, this has been the longest lead up and tease ever to the 2319 text from Mark Meadows. So these text messages from Meadows were obtained by Talking Points Memo. And most of these now are being made public for the first time right before basically we went live here. And what do the text messages show? Of course, they show piece by piece the plot to overturn the 2020 election. These texts were part of the trove of text messages, documents that Mark Meadows had turned over to the January 6th Select Committee. The log includes more than 450 messages with 34 Republican members of Congress with big leading role appearances by your favorite representatives,
Starting point is 00:56:06 and that's sarcasm, not what you said, Marjorie Taylor Greene, representatives Jim Jordan, Jody Heiss, Mo Brooks, Ted Cruz. They were all intimately involved in this plot to reverse Trump's defeat, to overturn the results of the election, and to install Donald Trump as a dictator. Now, let me show you some of these disturbing texts. So this is one that I had mentioned earlier. It's from Representative Ralph Norman from South Carolina. And I want to be clear, he texted this one on, this wasn't even done like the day after the election or even in December or even before January 6th. This was a text message sent to Mark Meadows on January 17th, 2021, just days before President Biden's inauguration. And here's what Representative
Starting point is 00:56:53 Norman said. He said, Mark, as Mark Meadows, in seeing what's happening so quickly and reading about the Dominion lawsuits, attempting to stop any meaningful investigation. We are at a point of no return in saving our Republic. Our all caps last hope is invoking martial law. Once again, misspelling martial law as the name Marshall and not as actually martial law. Then in all caps, please urge the president to do so as in please urge the president to declare martial law. I mean, these people want to suspend at that time, suspend the constitution and have Trump bring in the military and make it so that Donald Trump would be a pointed dictator of the United States of America. These are traitors. These are treasonous text messages that we are seeing. This is sedition out in the open.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Here's another one from, and I'm going to be honest, don't know how to pronounce the guy's name, Brian Babin or Brian Babin. He is a representative from Texas. He said, Mark, when we lose Trump, we lose our republic. Fight like hell and find a way. We're with you down here in Texas and refuse to live under a corrupt Marxist dictatorship, liberty, Babin. Now, I think it also shows you that a lot of these people really are just incredibly deranged people. If these are their private text messages, and they're also as anti-American as you get. When we lose Trump, we lose our republic. That's a fundamentally anti-American state. And it's like the most disgusting. When we lose Trump, when we lose like literally the most despicable con artist, criminal trader in the world who sold out our nation and who's humiliated us, then we lose our republic.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Like these people are the biggest freaking losers in the world. In the world. They're losers and they're just anti-American. You just have to say it. And that's why this is open fascism. This is open authoritarianism. And I love these gaslighters on the right when you say, I am against the fascism of the far right of these actions. And they go, could you even define fascism? What's the fascism? The real fascism is Twitter.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Is Twitter blocking Donald Trump? And you're like, what are you talking about? What are you even talking about? Let's start with the fact that a loser, someone who lost the election and then proceeded to lose dozens of lawsuits, let's start with the fact that that guy tried to overturn the election, overthrow the United States government, and elect himself or appoint himself, rather, dictator of the United States. How about we start there with the fascism, and then we can work our way through all the other definitions of fascism. But if you can't acknowledge that, then there is no hope for you. I am sorry. No, Brett. Fascism is when Twitter in October of 2020 doesn't want to post Hunter Biden's genitals because that's fascism, man. Fascism is when twitter wants to ban a fake doctor who pretends to be a like actual like medical professional what do you say i said oh we'll get to him we'll get to all that exactly that's fascism man when twitter bans people from spreading COVID disinformation to kill people, that's fascism, man. Because come on, what's COVID? It's not like 1.1 million people died.
Starting point is 01:00:34 It's like, wait, these, Brett, I can't even wrap my head around. That's why I really, I really, I really, I really hate how the corporate media tries to accept the election results, the party who is endlessly spreading dangerous disinformation, who doesn't accept the way people live, who doesn't even accept people's existence in this country. It's unfair to even refer to them as a normal political party in this country. You have to view them through the lens of an extremist movement. And is the Democratic Party perfect? No, absolutely not. Do I disagree with them on things? Sure, I disagree with them on many things. But out of the two major political parties that we have in this country, we have one party who actually agrees with the idea of America, and we have one that completely and utterly rejects it. And within the democratic
Starting point is 01:01:46 party, we got range, man. We got range. We got AOC and we got Joe Manchin. We got rain. That's why this Kristen cinema thing, which we'll get to in a little bit is so absurdly ridiculous. And that's why I think she is a very bad actor in all of this. And that there's more beneath the surface. She's like a Tulsi Gabbard. A hundred percent like a Tulsi Gabbard. And you know, a lot of the stuff that if you guys listen to American Psyop, our true crime podcast,
Starting point is 01:02:13 a lot of the Tulsi Gabbard does get mentioned in American Psyop. And a lot of what we heard about Tulsi Gabbard's kind of journey into this far right extremist ecosystem. It kind of rings true in a lot of ways with what we're seeing right now with Kyrsten Sinema and more on her shortly. But Ben, you want to talk some Jack Smith. I know all the people here are really here to hear what's going on with Jack Smith today. What happened with Jack Smith and Georgia and Trump? I hear we're raining subpoenas. That's what's on the weather forecast. It's raining subpoenas. Hallelujah,
Starting point is 01:02:50 it's raining subpoenas. Amen. I like it. Ben's sick and he's just off the rocker tonight. All right. What's going on? More subpoenas from special counsel Jack Smith's office. There's the photo of Jack Smith. We always like to put the photo of him up there. I always love to put the photo of Jack Smith right next to Trump also. But this time he subpoenaed Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to sit before the criminal grand jury in Washington, D.C. that's investigating Trump's crimes for election interference in 2020. And the question is, why would you have Brad Raffensperger in right now? I mean, look, obviously Brad Raffensperger received the phone
Starting point is 01:03:41 call from Trump and obviously find me the votes. And obviously Brad Raffensperger is very much aware of and was directly threatened by Trump and was aware of all the election interference in Georgia. But what I mean by why would he be there? He's a friendly witness. It's not like they needed to even kind of force him to show up because Brad Raffensperger would likely want to show up and testify. And so ultimately bringing Brad Raffensperger in and it being kind of announced that Raffensperger in, to me is signaling something. And what we've seen over the past week or two weeks with the subpoenas that Jack Smith has sent. And he sent others to
Starting point is 01:04:26 Arizona Secretary of State, Michigan Secretary of State. And then he sent some to like Maricopa County and other boards of supervisors in Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And now focusing on Georgia, what it tells me, Jack Smith is very focused as well on Trump's election interference crimes in general as well, his threats and intimidation at these state officials as well as crimes. I think Jack Smith has locked up the January 6th day of crimes. He's got those ready to go. And I think now he's focusing on the fraudulent electors where state legislatures, MAGA extremists in the legislatures submitted their names instead of the actual electors. By the way, going back to an earlier point in the podcast, that is why the MAGA Republicans want to have this independent
Starting point is 01:05:25 state legislature theory, because they just want state legislatures eventually to basically go, yeah, you know what? The people voted this, but we're going to use our slate. And you can't challenge it. Granted, the case that I was talking about, Moore versus Harper, just involved gerrymandering. So you kind of get these right wingers and even corporate media, which kind of gaslights you and goes, oh, but Moore versus Harper, that case really isn't about like fake elector slates. It's about gerrymandering. It's like, okay, for now, but the whole precedent they're trying to create is that the independent state legislature can do exactly what the fraud electors tried to unlawfully do in the 2020 election. That's why
Starting point is 01:06:14 that's being championed by MAGA extremists. But anyway, that's why Jack Smith is focused on Brad Raffensperger. He wants to lock up that testimony because Trump's call to Raffensperger is criminal. And that's why Jack Smith's focused on Trump threatening these board of supervisors, like the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and the Board of Supervisors and similar kind of election bodies in other states. And Brad, it was like, you remember, I mean, we forget because so much news happens. Like this July, the speaker of the Wisconsin Assembly, Voss or whatever, Robin Voss, he's like, yeah, I received a, just a reporter asked him just by chance, hey, when was the last time you spoke with Trump? He's like, oh, last week. Oh, and the reporter's like, well, what did he say to you? Well, you know, he told me to set aside the results of the election. And the reporter's like,
Starting point is 01:07:09 the 2020 election? He's like, yeah. And what'd you tell him? Well, I told him that I understand your perspective. However, I think that we have a fundamental disagreement on that. And I don't think there's anything I can do at this point. I mean, they're just so cowardly and weak. They can't just even stand up to them and go, that's a crime. You insane. Shut the F up. Don't you dare freaking call me and say these things. That's why I say Republicans have no standards, like the lowest of the low and no standards. They could be defiled and they'll be like, well, you know, it is what it is. You know, it is what it is. I take it in the even more and say that the worst they are, the worst human beings they are, that's like their initiation ritual into being proud Republicans.
Starting point is 01:07:58 And in order to have standing in that party, you cannot just have low standards. You need to have negative standards and you need to have negative standards, and you need to embrace your disgusting and despicable behavior because you may be hated on it by people on Twitter or by the news media, but they will love you for it. And by the way, make all the predictions you want about things, spread all the disinformation you want. In fact, the more inaccurate you are, the more wrong you are, the better. COVID, say everything wrong. We'll pretend you're right. Why not? We'll pretend you're right. Climate change, say everything inaccurate. Just make up stuff. Okay. It's not real, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:08:34 We'll pretend you're right. It's okay. We'll make our own reality. And that's what we're seeing right now across the country. And that's kind of the thing that also ties to Elon Musk, who we'll get to shortly. I want to hit on- Oh, Brad, first, because it's on the same line of reasoning or lack thereof. Can you play this clip of Ronna McDaniel, where she's asked if Trump bears any responsibility for Republican losses? She's running again for RNC chair. Here, play this clip. And this is on Fox. Would you publicly say that Donald Trump bears any responsibility for the sum of the losses in the midterm elections? Would you say that publicly? You know, I don't like this. I don't like these parceling out because he supported Ted Budd,
Starting point is 01:09:21 who won, and he supported J.D. Vance, who won. I think there's a lot of things. That's why I've put together an after-action report. We've got to look at Dobbs. But here's the one thing that I think people should be talking about, the amount of ticket splitting, the amount of Republicans that went out and voted for a Republican at the top of the ticket. Look at Arizona. The top vote-getter is a Republican. Look at Georgia.
Starting point is 01:09:41 We had eight of nine statewide races won by Republicans. But why are Republicans going and voting for one Republican and not the other? We have to work hard to bring those independents in. Isn't that the answer to your question? But that means turnout was not the issue. The answer is Trump, isn't it? I'm saying I'm not into the blame game right now. I think we've got to do an analysis. I think it's too quick.
Starting point is 01:10:00 And I think you can't parcel out, well, this endorsement helped this one and this. It's the whole message. It's what did each candidate do? What was their turnout? But most importantly, how do we get independents to support Republicans? And how do we get Republicans to support other Republicans? And this infighting within our party is never going to help that. We need Trump voters.
Starting point is 01:10:19 We need McCain voters. We need Romney voters. And then some if we're going to beat the Democrats. Okay, so I also want to just say quickly, And then some if we're going to beat the Democrats. Okay. So I also want to just say quickly, first, she's the worst. She's the worst. And I hope that, you know, whether it's her or the pillow man running the RNC, whatever it is, great.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah, you're the worst. You're horrible at your job. You're terrible at what you do. You're a coward. You literally changed your last name, which was Romney, literally changed your last name to suck up to Donald Trump. I mean, how despicable and cowardly does it get? But even just parsing her own comments, she can't even BS well. I mean, she makes the comment in the beginning. She goes, look at Arizona. The top vote getter is a
Starting point is 01:11:01 Republican. That Republican who she's talking about, it was the state treasurer, Kimberly Yee, who had dropped out of the gubernatorial race because Trump endorsed Carrie Lake and not her. That wasn't a Trump endorsed candidate. That was just a generic Republican. It goes against her entire thesis that she's trying to work up there. These people are just, they're such frauds. They're such phonies. They're such liars. And when confronted, they never have an answer. They just want to say, I don't like that very much. I don't like that question. I bet she was shocked that Fox was coming to her with that. It was Fox business. And that guy's actually, I've seen him on some other interviews and he's asked some good questions. He's not a fan of Trump, that guy. And I think because he's Fox business, he's able to uh also i think they're trying to work it a little bit like you know they always do things with an agenda at fox i don't think they want rana running it anymore so i think they're trying
Starting point is 01:11:54 to highlight other people and try to slowly push rana out while still maintaining kind of a you know some sort of friendship with her in case that she does remain the RNC chair. Should we hit Sinema just quickly? I mean- Yeah, you hit Sinema. We hit her. She's switching to independent. I mean, she announced that she's leaving the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 01:12:17 I was going to give her attention, right? Because that's all she wants. All she wants attention, yeah. And was anybody surprised by it? It's obviously a strategic decision because she was going to be primaried in 2024 in the Democratic primary. She would likely lose that Democratic primary. So this might be her way of also trying to kind of beat the Democrats to the punch there and say, hey, I'm an independent and I'm going to hold all these voters hostage. So run somebody else at your own peril against me, Democrats, because I will split the vote. But I honestly think this is a huge miscalculation by Miss Cinema here because I think she overestimates, vastly overestimates, the amount that people actually like her.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Look at this photo. No comment if you're looking at the photo. I'm going to get myself in trouble. But Kirsten Sinema is wildly, wildly, wildly unpopular because of her. And here's the famous thumbs down photo of her on the Senate floor. Because of Sinema, we have no higher minimum wage, no extended child tax credits, and no expansions of voting rights. And the thing that is so baffling about all this also is that Democrats are doing really well in Arizona overall. Mark Kelly just got reelected. He is crushing it. We got a Democratic Secretary of State elected.
Starting point is 01:13:37 We have a Democratic governor elected there. So it's no surprise that the Arizona Democratic Party chair told her, don't let the door hit you on the way out. And Representative Ruben Gallego, who has been eyeing to primary Sinema, he made a statement saying Sinema's putting her own interests ahead of getting things done for Arizonans. And it would be one thing if you were honestly, genuinely, and independent, you didn't believe in parties, whatever it is. First off, I don't think it's the time for that right now if you are in that situation where you're a United States Senator.
Starting point is 01:14:14 But all of her policies that I went through before about minimum wage, child tax credits, voting rights, and a variety of other issues, these are things that independents overwhelmingly care about and are passionate about. And you have here, I'll read it. She has an 18% favorable rating in Arizona. 18% favorable rating in Arizona. Her approval rating amongst Democrats is 5% to 82% unfavorables. But you'd say, oh, there must be a ton of independents out there, though, who are eager
Starting point is 01:14:44 to give Sinema a shot, who love Kyrsten Sinema. Among independents, her favorables are tied with her favorables with Republicans at 25%. Independents have her at a 56% unfavorable rating, while Republicans have her at a 45% unfavorable rating. So I don't really understand the strategy other than kind of saving her own ass here and trying to set herself up for a position that's almost beyond politics in the case that she loses. I mean, she is somebody who has bowed to corporate interests while pretending to be somebody who cared about regular people. And she, in speeches, I wish I had the clip right now, but you could check our Instagram for it. We have a clip of Kyrsten Sinema from, I think it was 2013, speaking about Joe Lieberman with such disdain, who was somebody also who went from a Democrat to an independent, saying
Starting point is 01:15:35 she could have been speaking about herself, the things that she was talking about Lieberman here. Now, Sinema says that she will not caucus or the Republican. She suggested that she intends to vote the same way that she has over the past four years in the Senate. Nothing will change about my values or behavior, she said. This moment, I'm not going to play the clip, but Jake Tapper asked her, is the power of the Senate still going to be 51 to 49? And Sinema's response was, I know you have to ask that question, Jake, but that's kind of a DC thing to worry about, which to me is one of the most obnoxious responses that you could possibly give because it's really a slap in the face to voters. First of all, this is a slap in the face
Starting point is 01:16:15 to the voters, the activists, the people who made phone calls for you, the people who knocked on doors for you. You all just spit completely in their face. But then to say that the average American doesn't care about the makeup of the Senate, it's like, how elitist can you be? And how much do you look down on regular Americans that you don't think that they could handle how important it is for the Senate and the makeup of the Senate and how it affects their lives? To me, that right there is also just utterly disqualifying. Ben, do you have anything to add on Sinema? Because I'm just about done with her. Well, I think, and I always thought there's a big difference between Manchin and Sinema, although they get lumped together. You know, Manchin is a Democrat in West Virginia, where I believe their state legislature is like 92% Republican or something like that. And where Democrats really
Starting point is 01:17:06 don't get elected in West Virginia. We highlighted in one of our videos recently too, like what went down in the West Virginia Senate recently. I mean, it's just horrific things that go on there. You had a prosecutor who was saying to remove this exemption that allows husbands to sexually assault their wives. They have a statute that says that exempts marriage. And you had all of the Republicans basically yelling at the prosecutor and saying, well, why would we do that? The exemption makes sense. And go back and watch that video. I mean, it's completely horrific. But the question on a mansion is, would you rather there be, mansions voted for all of the Democratic judges. So would you rather that seat be a Republican seat? Or would you rather deal with a Democrat in a Republican state
Starting point is 01:18:07 and just kind of deal with it? And you're never going to agree with the Manchin on 95% of the issues, but on judges, it's so critical that you have Manchin's vote and he's voted again for all of Biden's nominees to date. Sinema, on the other hand, in Arizona, she advertised herself and won the race as the exact opposite person that she's become. And she's become a shill for corporations. And she's been the one who fights for the exemption for the hedge fund in this bill. That's her role is to do the bidding of corporate interest, which is the exact opposite of what she ran as. And there's videos of her from not too long ago where she criticized Lieberman for being an independent and how dare you switch parties. And so Manchin's always been Manchin. I don't think he's advertised himself as, hey, this is who I am. And then he acted very differently. She is just a liar and a fraud and a con artist
Starting point is 01:19:27 in a state too that wants people like their democratic leadership now. So that's the part to me that- I so agree with you. She has no excuse. Manchin at least has an excuse and Manchin has been at least to his credit, straight with the American people. And honestly, some people might get mad at me for this, but you got to give Manchin a little bit of credit for his political prowess that he's able to get elected as a Democrat in a plus 30, plus 40 Trump state in West Virginia. I mean, that does take a lot of maneuvering to do. And I think it is, I'm not a mansion fan by any means, but I think it's important that we keep as many seats as we can in the Senate to improve, to continue to get
Starting point is 01:20:12 these judgeships in and get all these appointments that we need. Speaking of very, people who want attention, attention seekers. Okay, you're, Elon Musk, who has now become the main character of his little Twitterverse that he has taken over, just has become incredibly despicable. I don't know, Ben, did he see that New York Times headline from a few weeks ago that was like, I'm paraphrasing, but it was basically like, Elon Musk has a lot of controversial opinions, but where he stands on the political spectrum is still to be determined. First off, it was already obvious before that. He only interacts with right-wing provocateurs and really horrific people on the right, like the worst, not just like
Starting point is 01:21:00 Republicans, but like the worst people on the planet. But not 24 hours later, does he go on a deranged attack against Dr. Fauci with an also simultaneously transphobic tweet? Like he works in all the hate. He's been doing this now. It just is escalating. Each day it feels like, what can I do worse than the next day with them? Because this has been ongoing. And honestly, I was telling someone I was talking with today, I was like, you know what the feeling reminds me of on Twitter when I used to wake up to those Trump tweets and it would say the most like, and it would just be like, oh, why, why? And it's sad and it's upsetting to me that someone with a platform and with power uses it to spread disinformation and hate who knows better than what they're doing,
Starting point is 01:21:58 who does it intentionally and maliciously to just harm people. He's just disgusting. And don't worry, because this story, we'll wrap it up with a happy ending. Spoiler alert, he gets booed in front of a crowd of thousands of people while trying to be cool at a Chappelle show. Sorry for the spoiler, but you all knew what happened today. But this horrific, disgusting tweet that he thought is funny, telling the same joke. Apparently the right wing people, they have one joke and it's about pronouns. And he says, my pronouns are prosecute slash Fauci. Then in a follow-up tweet, as if that was not disgusting enough he said, at Lila Musk, he said, members of the LGBT community, these are real people with real feelings and you shouldn't be harming them. To which Musk replied regarding, these are real people with real feelings. I want to specify that. Musk said, I strongly disagree, which is just absolutely abhorrent in and of
Starting point is 01:23:12 itself. And then he went on this whole rant that they're, quote, this is an exact quote, forcing their pronouns upon people when they didn't ask, oh, woe is me. How horrific. Like nobody is doing that. The only people who think about this stuff nonstop are these deranged Republicans who traffic in this. The only people who speak about drag queens all day. The only people who talk about pronouns all day. The only people who talk about pedophiles all day and child porn all day. Are these Republicans? Once again, as the theme of this episode goes, everything that they themselves want to hide under the rug,
Starting point is 01:23:53 they come out in strong disagreement of. Because if you look at their actions, all their actions always take on the opposite nature of what they are trying to say are the problems out there. We'll get to that in a bit. But Musk has recently, he keeps using this term, which I don't know how you use this term unironically. I said it to you in the beginning of the episode, but he keeps going, we got to fight the woke mind virus. It's up to the fate of civilization for us to destroy the woke mind virus. We're saving civilization itself. What a God complex. And how much power do you really think Twitter has? And you think that by enabling and bringing on these racists
Starting point is 01:24:33 and white supremacists and just all around disgusting people that you are saving civilization? He's gone on these disgusting tirades against Yoel Roth, who was the global head of trust and safety at Twitter. He's made this guy who was one of the only people who kind of stayed back of the executives to help Elon Musk adapt to Twitter, get used to it. And he actually praised Yoel shortly after taking over the company. This guy, Yoel, has had to now flee his home due to an escalation of threats resulting from Elon Musk's campaign of hate against them. I say campaign of hate because he's not just saying that I disagree with the decisions
Starting point is 01:25:11 that the former head of trust and safety at Twitter, Yoel Roth, made and the job that he made in working with the other executives. He is accusing Yoel Roth of basically being a pedophile, a child predator, someone who enabled the exploitation of children online, just absolutely abhorrent, disgusting, hateful things. And it's what all these people on the side do. They are so tough behind the computer. They sick their goons on somebody in a very stochastic terrorism way. They know what's going to happen when they target that person. That person inevitably, either in the case of like a Paul Pelosi, gets physically harmed. In some cases, people get killed. In many cases, people have to flee their homes and hide and get security. And that's exactly what happened here. And for all
Starting point is 01:26:02 the bluster and talk about, oh, we're actually, the hate speech is down. He never reveals the actual data. He never says anything. All the independent research and reports show definitively that things like hate speech and violent threats and child sex exploitation on Twitter have increased exponentially since Musk has taken over. But because he says, actually, it's down. Trust me. Trust me. It's down. It's down. Just because he says that, all of his goons go, oh, look, he's doing it. He got rid of it. And it's all kind of this QAnon thing where they accuse all of their opponents, all of their enemies, if you will, as being
Starting point is 01:26:43 pedophiles. That's number one. And then they have Elon Musk as the savior. This is what they did with Trump with QAnon. He is the savior who is getting rid of all those people. And once again, that's anyone they disagree with who they label that. And that's what they do. Elon Musk has become like this new Q figure. Ironically, the guy who is literally trying to implant computer chips inside the brains of humans. Remember that conspiracy theory about the COVID vaccine? Elon Musk is literally trying to do that. The guy who was also in pictures with Ghislaine Maxwell, who had a relationship with her. This is the person, once again, who they'd chosen as their crusader against child sex exploitation.
Starting point is 01:27:26 The guy who just disbanded the council that is focused on online safety and harassment, human and digital rights, suicide prevention and mental health, child sexual exploitation and dehumanization on Twitter. He just got rid of all that. And then like you said earlier, the people he's also interacting with are like fake experts. Musk, back in March of 2020, he was tweeting out that COVID, I can't believe everyone's overreacting to this COVID thing. It's not real. It's going to go away. It's not real. It's going to be away. I see that we peaked. He said that when we had 15 cases, it's peaked. We're going to go back to zero very soon. Who does that sound like, right? And now he has the nerve to threaten Dr. Fauci, to threaten the guy who has led our country through these crises.
Starting point is 01:28:12 It's a very Trumpy and disgusting thing. And who does he bring in as his experts? He brings in this guy who invited to Twitter HQ, Jay Bhattacharya. I might probably not how you say the name, but you get it. You shouldn't have gone into that. I should not. I should have just gone in with more confidence there. No hesitation.
Starting point is 01:28:32 They brought him on to discuss the suppression of COVID disinformation because this was a guy who was suspended from the platform. I want to be clear about who this guy is who was spreading this COVID disinfo and why he was banned from the platform. This guy was, first off, he was spreading, he was saying COVID was fake and the vaccines are bad for you and all things like that. This guy, he's not even a real doctor. He
Starting point is 01:28:55 didn't complete a residency after medical school. He's not board certified in any specialty. He is not a practicing physician. He has literally never treated a patient himself or under his own medical license. They bring in these people who they pretend to be experts in fields, but they're all people who either were not intelligent enough to actually get those roles and to be experts, or they have been so corrupt and bad at their jobs that they have actually been removed from the profession entirely and are not allowed to be on the board. And it reminds me of Tom Fitton, another guy who he's the head of Judicial Watch, who literally was a major part in Donald Trump's attempts to overturn the January 6th election.
Starting point is 01:29:43 He's the one who told Trump, who gave the legal advice to ignore the results, claim victory, tell everybody to stop the count. That was Tom Fitton's legal advice. Once again, the only problem with Tom Fitton, a person who was brought up multiple times in the January 6th committee and a person who Elon Musk interacts with on a seemingly daily basis, oftentimes multiple times a day. He's the guy who wears the really tight shirts. He wears really tight shirts, yeah. And this guy, he's not an attorney. He's not a lawyer. And he has a group, what are they called? Judicial- Judicial Watch.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Judicial Watch. Just some right wing front. And that's the group that just files these BS lawsuits. What Trump talks about, he's like, the Sox case. You know when he talks about the Sox case? That's like a Fintan lawsuit, that Fintan lost this case. And he filed a lawsuit against the National Archives in 2012 to sue them, to force them to have Bill Clinton turn over his notes related to his autobiography from his presidency. And the court was like, no, who are you judicial? Go away. What are you talking about? Why are you bringing this lawsuit? But that's why Trump goes, the president set forth in the socks case. It's like the socks case.
Starting point is 01:31:06 He lost the case. It says nothing that you say it says. Like, what are you talking about? But that's finted because then they rely on people because what they're trying to do, and this is the effort, is just destroy truth, right? We talked about this is make this episode go full circle, though. We talk about what the real threats are to our democracy, right? We talked about, and this is, make this episode go full circle though. We talk about what the real threats are to our democracy, right? There are literally right-wing extremists who want to overthrow our democracy. There was a literal insurrection where right-wing extremists and terrorists stormed in and trespassed in to the
Starting point is 01:31:48 Capitol to kill lawmakers and to obstruct and stop and block a free and fair election from being certified and to stop the peaceful transition of power. And what Republicans want to do now, what the modern Republican Party, what the extremists want to do is they want to basically be like, and this is where the media, the corporate media is just the worst because they buy into it where it's just like, there's just a lot of information. There's the Sox case and then there's Roe v. Wade, right? And it's like, precedent, shmeshedent, like what really matters anymore? And so it's like, no, precedent is sacred. But when you talk about stuff like the Sox case, it corrodes the trust in the law that actually gives cover for then what happens in something like a Dobbs. And I'm not
Starting point is 01:32:46 saying that's a direct correlation, but then what does precedent mean? What does precedent matter? If you could try to just destroy and equalize disinfo with truthful info and just make it all sound like a mess, that's what they are going for. And that's why we need to speak about the truth. And that's why I love this community so much. And that's why we need to speak about the truth. And that's why I love this community so much. And that's why they're ultimately, I don't think there's a large part currently, at least with Musk that actually wants or even needs this thing to be profitable. I mean, he has one of the loudest megaphones out there and he wants to use it to spread disinformation and to really try to erase the
Starting point is 01:33:25 truth of what happened. And that's why, honestly, I really don't like talking about the guy at all. And I think talking about Twitter is kind of boring. But I do view it as an essential part of the threats against our democracy. I do think it's directly intertwined and it's so important to everything that we're going on. But anyway's let's skip to the good part here let's show him getting booed then the cringy part where he goes i'm rich much oh my goodness yeah so this was a dave chapelle concert in san francisco um he brings out elon musk and first off i just want to say like if I were at a Dave Chappelle concert, if I were at any comedian's show, I don't even care if it's Elon Musk. If he was like, ladies and gentlemen, I know you came here to see a comedy show, but Bill Gates. I'd be like, what is Bill Gates doing here? Why is he here? Mark Zucker jokes what do you i i don't want to see mark zuckerberg you know like it was a weird one i mean this is you know chappelle's shell's a weird dude yeah chapelle is going in a problem very bizarre problematic incredibly
Starting point is 01:34:37 problematic direction i mean he's been there he's going way past there now. But here's Elon Musk getting booed. Let's enjoy it. I think we're going to make some noise for the richest man in the world. Cheers and boos, I say. Eli. Hey, Dave. What? What are you expecting this way up? It sounds like some of them people you fired are in the audience. Tough on the head I can tell but you know this one thing all of these people are booing
Starting point is 01:35:49 and I'm just pointing out the obvious they have terrible secrets all coming from way up there the last minute now I'm playing the niggas boo boo not playing the biggest blue blue
Starting point is 01:36:05 blue So Chappelle's reaction is to make fun of his audience for sitting in the what do you say, the cheap seats. And that was his reaction. And we played a minute and a half, two minutes of that. That goes on for ten minutes.
Starting point is 01:36:22 It's ten minutes. And then they had to end the show. They literally, Chabelle was like, all right, that's it. I can't, I mean, we can't come back from this. And they had to end the show and they walked out. And I mean, give me a break. Talk about stepping out of your bubble into the real world. And that's why these people are always so shocked. They live in these bubbles where you have the craziest of the crazy people reaffirming their beliefs. But then they get into society and people really, truly don't give a damn about it. And Elon's response today was one of the most pathetic responses I've ever seen. He tweets out, technically it was 90% cheers and 10% boos,
Starting point is 01:36:59 except during quiet periods. But still, that's a lot of boos, which is a first for me in real life, parentheses, frequent on Twitter. It's almost as if i've offended san francisco's unhinged leftists but nah once again like everything to him anyone who criticizes him it's a bot anybody who criticizes him at a dave chappelle show i don't care that it's san francisco this is the Chappelle show, unhinged leftists, the woke left, like maybe for once, for once have a little bit of self reflection, just a little bit and say, why do these people hate me so much? Perhaps you will find the answer, but I understand that he can't. So that happens. And right before they kind of end the show, there's this bizarre moment where Elon Musk goes, he does a weird dance and then he shouts what's supposed to be,
Starting point is 01:37:52 I'm rich bitch, which is a Chappelle catchphrase at the end of his episodes from one of the sketches from the Chappelle show. And it's just like the cringiest, most awkward moment. I have secondhand embarrassment watching this clip. And if I just suffer through the secondhand embarrassment, you have to suffer through the secondhand embarrassment. So let me play this. All right, boys. Like, what is that?
Starting point is 01:38:25 I'm cringing. I'm cringing all over again just watching that. But anyway, that's what happens when the far right extremists meet the real world. They get booed. They get a dose of reality. And we are here, I would say, to bring you that dose of reality and to speak about the issues that people are caring about and to show you what the people on the other side are talking about, what is in their kind of mindset as they go on a daily basis. And Hey, before we go, I do want to say, if you enjoy
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