The MeidasTouch Podcast - Jack Smith has Trump Co-Conspirator IN DEEP TROUBLE with Incriminating Evidence

Episode Date: August 10, 2023

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas dives into a recent Politico Report which lists the various memos prepared by Donald Trump’s former lawyer and now co-conspirator number 5 Kenneth Cheseboro which are very incriminating. Special Counsel Jack Smith clearly has the goods!  If you head to https://REELPAPER.com/meidas and sign up for a subscription using code MEIDAS at checkout, you’ll automatically get 30% off your first order and FREE SHIPPING! Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 American Psyop: https://pod.link/1652143101 Burn the Boats: https://pod.link/1485464343 Majority 54: https://pod.link/1309354521 Political Beatdown: https://pod.link/1669634407 Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://pod.link/1676844320 MAGA Uncovered: https://pod.link/1690214260 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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has just completely tarnished and destroyed his reputation in service of Donald Trump, this is someone who went to Harvard Law School, graduated in 1986, worked at the top law firm, Sidley Austin, Cravath, clerked for a district court judge, worked at the Department of Justice, had an appellate practice that was, by all accounts, doing pretty decent, but went on the MAGA train in service of Donald Trump. And now he's co-conspirator number five in special counsel Jack Smith's latest indictment against Donald Trump. And for good reasons in this new report by the Politico, you see the evolution of Ken Chesbrough from providing the first kind of memo, getting this taste of power, and then going full-fledged overthrow our democracy

as the emails progress throughout December of 2020. And I think it's important to look at these source documents together. And that's why I'm glad that Kyle Cheney posted it on his Twitter account. And that's why I wanna share these documents with you, these memos with you that have been filed in other matters before,

because when we talk about the evidence special counsel Jack Smith has, and you look at it, you see just how disturbing this is. You know, I'm reminded by Hannah Arendt's Banality of Evil that she wrote, a book that she wrote just about how the Nazis just seemingly went about their course in such, they treat it as though it's normal, the genocidal maniacs that they were, the atrocities that were committed. And I just think about human nature, how this Harvard lawyer is writing an email like this. This is going back and forth with John Eastman. And you see these messages. And then Eastman starts talking to Chesbrough about, I'm fine with Ken's edits. They're preparing a memo together. As for hearings, I think both are unnecessary. The fact that we

have multiple slates of electors demonstrates the uncertainty of either. That should be enough. And I agree with Ken that the Judiciary Committee hearings on the constitutionality of the Electoral Count Act could invite counter views that we do not believe should constrain Pence or Grassley, MAGA Republican Chuck Grassley, and the exercise of power they have under the 12th Amendment, better for them just to act boldly and be challenged, since the challenge would likely lead to a court denying review

on non-judiciable political question grounds, and he should act boldly in that the vice president should, what, just completely violate the law? Here is this memo from December 13th, 2021. And as Cheney says, it's where Chesbrough lays out the plans to have Pence take control and refuse to count Biden's electoral votes. And as Cheney says, he theorizes about how to avoid adverse court rulings and even a scenario where Trump quits and Pence would become the president. Let's stop cutting down trees to make toilet paper. Now it's true. Humans are cutting down tens of thousands of trees every

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And here's like a memo that looks like, you know, a dear partner legal memo. But here's Chesbrough talking about overthrowing American democracy. Chesbrough goes on to say here, here are some quick notes on strategy. I have not delved into the historical record, Vice President Pence's counsel has and seems totally up on this, and I'm sure there are many other lawyers

who can add a great deal, and I'm writing with reference to three law review articles. The bottom line is I think having the president of the Senate, Pence, firmly take the position that he and he alone is charged with the constitutional responsibility not just to open the votes, but to count them, including making judgments about what to do if there are conflicting votes, represents the best way to ensure, one, that mass media and social media platforms, and therefore the public, will focus intently on the evidence of abuses in election and canvassing. There was none. The Trump report stated that there was no fraud capable of overturning the election. And two, that there will

be additional scrutiny in the courts and or state legislatures with an eye toward determining which electoral slates are the valid ones. And I think this strategy can be carried out with surrogates of the president and vice president, with them standing mostly above the fray, urging only that there be real scrutiny on what happened in this election, and that they're willing to live with the results as long as there's a serious look, especially by the state legislatures, at what happened there to ensure it will never happen again. I think having the president of the Senate, the vice president, use this defensible claim that he is in charge of counting the votes

as leverage to obtain the needed scrutiny would be worthwhile, even if it couldn't ultimately prevent the election of Biden and Harris. The Republicans used this argument in 1877 as leverage. And then he lays out a chronology of how to basically implement this plan. But when you go through it and you're talking about it, saying that the vice president has the power to make the judgments on who wins the election, not just count the votes, that's indirect odds to what the 12th Amendment says.

But you go back, and Kyle Cheney does a great job at this, to an initial memo that Chesbrough writes back on November of 2020. You see it gets certainly more disturbing with the more recent ones that I read in December. But you go to this one, November 18th, 2020. It says, you asked for a written summary of the legal analysis underlying my suggestion during our conference call that in any judicial review of canvassing recounting in Wisconsin, we should emphasize that the presidential election timetable affords ample time for judicial proceedings,

even if initial errors in the recount require a remand for further recounting. And then it goes on to say that January 6th, the date the Senate and House meet for the counting of the electoral vote is the real deadline for finding ultimately who wins. But you see how this gets kind of contorted of, okay, January 6th is the date to, okay, on January 6th, here is what you need to do to overthrow the election. And Cheney in his tweet thread gives a shout out to Luke Broadwater over at the New York Times who unearthed this missing link memo right here. And this is what Chesbrough said. This follows up on my November 18th memo, the one we just talked about, advocating that

unless the president and vice president plan to concede the race if they fail to reach 270 electoral votes by December 14th, the Trump-Pence electors all should meet in their respective states and cast their votes and send them to Washington so that the votes will be physically present at the joint session of Congress on January 6th. this memo briefly covers three points the importance of all electors and all six contested voting messaging about this being a routine measure and three logistics and then it goes on to talk about implementing the fake elector scheme but it's not about this is the right thing to do. It's how do we manipulate

the media? How do we try to create some form of leverage and defensibility while Donald Trump and others engage in the plot to overthrow our democracy? And so what's to me just so chilling, and I don't know if you've got this feeling too, when you read the memos the way I kind of looked at them right here, they're written just so matter-of-factly, just written, hey, we're just going to have Pence overthrow the results, just make his own judgment call. Fortunately, Pence didn't do that. And if Pence did that, he would be criminally charged right now. But you got people like Ch charged right now but you got people

like Chesbrough you got people like Eastman you got all of these people now you know MAGA stands for make attorneys get attorneys and you know was it craving power for all of these reasons to have people just completely sacrificed there so even my my dogs are are upset about it I'm Ben Mycelis from the Midas Touch Network. Hit subscribe. We're on our way to 1.5 million subscribers. Thanks to your support. Check us out at patreon.com slash Midas Touch.

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