The MeidasTouch Podcast - Jack Smith HOLDS PIVOTAL MEETING in Michigan on Trump’s Many CRIMES

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Starting point is 00:00:50 free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. I'm Ben Micellis from the Midas Touch Network. In connection with Special Counsel Jack Smith's criminal investigation into Trump's election interference. We can now confirm that special counsel Jack Smith's team has indeed met with the secretary of state of Michigan to ask numerous questions about Donald Trump's efforts in that state to try to overthrow the free and fair election. By the way, including threats directed at the Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson. A new CNN article confirms that a meeting between Jack Smith's team and the Secretary of State of Michigan, Jocelyn Benson, took place as early as March of this year. This is what we have learned about the meeting from a source that's quoted by CNN, quote, the interview with Jocelyn Benson

Starting point is 00:01:45 really underscored, I think, the depth through which the federal prosecutors are looking into everything and the seriousness with which they're taking what occurred and a quest for justice to ensure it doesn't happen. Again, Benson's office did not reveal the specifics of this interview with special counsel Jack Smith about Trump's attempts to overthrow the free and fair election in the state of Michigan. She has not confirmed to CNN or to any other sources about the types of questions that were asked, whether Jack Smith was present. But Benson did say that among the areas investigators seemed focused on was, quote, the impact of the misinformation on election workers' lives and the threats that

Starting point is 00:02:34 emerged from the various sources. Now, again, remember, Jocelyn Benson received many death threats. In fact, a mob of MAGA individuals were outside Jocelyn Benson's home as she put her kids to sleep, directly threatening her. Benson said to CNN, quote, myself and the election officials who have at the request or simply because we have a story to tell have been speaking to authorities. I think it's really a reflection of our desire to ensure that the law is followed and where there's evidence of wrongdoing, there is justice served. Benson added that she's, quote, willing to speak with anyone, including the grand jury, about what we endured on leading up to the January 6th insurrection after the 2020 election, quote, if and when we are requested, we'll be a part of any proceeding that require my testimony, Secretary of State Benson said, adding that, quote, it's important for the American public to

Starting point is 00:03:37 know what occurred in 2020 was really detrimental to the lives of Americans. The CNN article points out that this Benson interview followed a subpoena that was sent by special counsel Jack Smith to the Michigan election officials offices as well requesting communications that took place with Trump officials, including there was a voicemail that was received from Rudy Giuliani's team that was sent to the clerk of Rochester Hills, Michigan in December of 2020. And there was an email confirming that there was this voicemail of Rudy Giuliani reaching out. And we know Giuliani was reaching out and threatening local and state election officials and telling them to manipulate election data, to falsify election data. You know, all of this comes as earlier this year in January of 2023, the Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, by the way, I'm such a big fan of the Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, and Governor Gretchen

Starting point is 00:04:53 Whitmer, actually showing what a working government can look like. Fantastic. They deserve far more credit than they get by national media. So any chance we can say how great they are, we're going to do that here on the Midas Touch Network. But in January of 2023, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel opened up a criminal probe into election crimes in Michigan in 2020. And at that time, she had told reporters that she was, quote, a little worried that more than a year had passed since she had referred the cases related to the fake electors to the Justice Department, Merrick Garland. She believes that there is clear evidence of crimes with the fake elector scheme to support charges against the fake electors in Michigan. But at that time in January of 2023, she was worried that the Department of Justice had not yet met

Starting point is 00:05:54 with anybody in Michigan. But now we know that meetings have taken place in March of 2023, and there have been numerous communications back and forth, near constant communications, as Secretary of State Benson says, with Jack Smith's team. It just seems that Jack Smith's team was waiting for the appropriate time as they were building the case before scheduling these communications. Nessel said the following to CNN back on January of 2023. She said, quote, what we have seen from the January 6th committee is an overwhelming amount of evidence. I thought there was already a substantial amount of evidence in that case, but now there is just clear evidence to support charges against the 16 false electors in the state of Michigan. She said quite candidly, yes, we are reopening our investigation because I don't know what the federal government plans to do, she added. And at that time,

Starting point is 00:06:53 CNN reached out to the Justice Department, which did not respond. And of course, the fake elector scheme is becoming a major part of special counsel Jack Smith's criminal investigation of Donald Trump's election interference. It was always a very prominent part of the investigation, I should say, but it seemed that special counsel Jack Smith had kind of nailed down other aspects of the potential charges that he's going to be bringing against Donald Trump and Trump's co-conspirators, and then really homed in on the fake elector scheme whereby MAGA allies of Donald Trump, many who were in state legislatures or affiliated with the Republican leadership of the states which have been taken over by MAGA, affixed their signatures fraudulently to fraudulent

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Starting point is 00:10:39 a fake certificate to send to be counted on January 6th by then Vice President Pence, which Pence didn't do, saying that Donald Trump won. It's a fraudulent document, a perjurious document, making false statements. And so there's a number of crimes there. I want to play for you this testimony by Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson to the Senate Judiciary Committee that she gave basically a year ago talking about heightened federal laws, criminal laws that are needed against individuals like these MAGA stochastic terrorists who threatened her life and threatened the life of other election officials. That was the context of this hearing. But watch this impassioned testimony given by Jocelyn Benson. Play this clip. Chairperson Derman, Ranking Member Grassley, members of the committee.

Starting point is 00:11:34 As Michigan's Chief Election Officer, my responsibility is to ensure our elections are accessible, safe, secure, and that the results are an accurate reflection of the will of the people. This is not a partisan role, and despite it being an elected position, it's not a political role. But it is a role that increasingly forces us, Republicans, Democrats, or independents, to endure threats, harassment, false and malicious attacks on our character and integrity, and sometimes even violence. I'm here today because we need your help. We cannot have a secure democracy if we do not protect the security of the people

Starting point is 00:12:12 who administer our elections. And right now, we are facing an unprecedented wave of continuous, unrelenting harassment and threats. Enduring these threats creates a near constant strain of anxiety and stress on our work. The status quo is unsustainable and unacceptable. I've experienced these threats firsthand. One night in December 2020, I was about to put my son to bed when dozens of individuals

Starting point is 00:12:40 descended upon our home. Growing in numbers over the course of an hour, they stood outside my front door, waking my neighbors, shouting obscenities and graphic threats into bullhorns. To this day, these images and this memory of that evening still haunts me. This was not the first, nor was it the last time. Sometime or a group of people showed up at my home or threatened me, my staff, or many of the hundreds of local election officials in our state. As a result, there is an omnipresent feeling of anxiety and dread that permeates our daily lives and those of our families. Not long ago,

Starting point is 00:13:17 my son, standing in our driveway, picked up a stick, turned to me and said, don't worry, mom, if the bad guys come again i'll get them with this he's six years old some of these incidents have been reported and drawn media attention many have not from rochester hills or tina barden she received a voicemail filled with explicit language threatening her family detroit city clerk janice winfrey was sent photos of a dead body with a message to imagine that body as her daughter. Other clerks beyond Michigan have told countless more stories. Local officials from political parties of both sides enduring threats to their families

Starting point is 00:13:56 and their staff. These threats are not limited to personal attacks. They also involve harassment and attempts to criminalize the basic work of local election officials. We are threatened with arrest for simply doing our jobs, for educating citizens about their right to vote, or we are inundated with burdensome and often nonsensical, unnecessary demands for information and access to secure election equipment. As a result, one in three election officials report feeling unsafe on a regular basis, and more than half fear for the safety of their colleagues in future elections.

Starting point is 00:14:32 And this is why we need your help. I'm grateful that a group of your colleagues have reached bipartisan agreement on reforms to the Electoral Count Act, but that is not enough. Imposing stronger penalties on those who would threaten or harm anyone involved in election administration is an important step, as is extending the same protections for the personal information of election officials that has been considered or extended to federal judges. The bottom line is we need you to act because many states like Michigan are failing to do what is necessary to protect us. For months local election officials and I have pleaded with Michigan lawmakers to set aside money to protect us even after

Starting point is 00:15:13 threats of violence and sometimes death are levied at us and our families. Despite months of specific requests and a budget surplus they have failed to offer anything to protect us. So you as national leaders can do something to demonstrate that you're willing not just to protect all of us but protect democracy. Like many of my colleagues, I have spent my career defending and protecting the right to vote of every eligible citizen. That commitment has never wavered and it will not waver now, but we need you to share that commitment with us. We need you to stand with us to pass new protections, additional

Starting point is 00:15:51 protections now before it's too late. Thank you for your testimony. So not only is Jocelyn Benson a critical witness to special counsel Jack Smith because she's the secretary of state of Michigan, but also she was a target of the criminal cartel of MAGAs who threatened her life. This isn't normal political behavior by these MAGA Republicans. This isn't conservative speech. These are threats. These are crimes. This is terrorism taking place.

Starting point is 00:16:22 It's fascism. It's idiocracy. And it's something we're going to call out here all the time. Good to know Special Counsel Jack Smith, though, has met with Michigan Secretary of State and devastating news for Donald Trump, which is good for justice. I'm Ben Micellus from the Midas Touch Network. Hit subscribe. We're on our way to 1.5 million subscribers. Thanks to your support. Check us out at patreon.com slash Midas Touch, wherever you get audio podcasts. Subscribe to the Midas Touch podcast. Have an excellent day. Hey, Midas Mighty. Love this report. Continue the conversation by following us on Instagram at Midas Touch to keep up with the most important news of the day. What are you waiting for? Follow

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The MeidasTouch Podcast - Jack Smith HOLDS PIVOTAL MEETING in Michigan on Trump’s Many CRIMES

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