The MeidasTouch Podcast - Jack Smith Sets the PERFECT TRAP for Judge Cannon

Episode Date: August 23, 2023

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on how Special Counsel Jack Smith’s legal maneuvering has put Judge Aileen in a big bind by exploiting her lack of legal experience and her arrogance in seeming to always try to help Donald Trump at every turn.  Get 20% off and free shipping with code MEIDAS at https://manscaped.com Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 American Psyop: https://pod.link/1652143101 Burn the Boats: https://pod.link/1485464343 Majority 54: https://pod.link/1309354521 Political Beatdown: https://pod.link/1669634407 Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://pod.link/1676844320 MAGA Uncovered: https://pod.link/1690214260 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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for Donald Trump's willful retention of national defense information, stealing classified and top secret documents and keeping it in Mar-a-Lago, as well as counts for making false statements and obstruction of justice against Trump and Trump's co-defendants, Waltine Nauta, his valet. And then in a superseding indictment, Carlos de Oliveira, the maintenance worker at Mar-a-Lago, was brought in as a co-defendant then. So what special counsel Jack Smith did was he brought not one, but two Garcia motions raising to Judge Eileen Cannon the unwaverable conflicts of interest that exist with Donald Trump's political action committee paying for the lawyer, Stan Woodward, and also another lawyer, John Irving. Woodward is representing Waltine Nauta. Irving is representing Carlos de Oliveira. Those lawyers being paid by the PAC also have represented multiple witnesses who may be

providing testimony, because they're being paid by the PAC, who may be providing testimony that is adverse, that would be incriminating to the clients, criminal defendants, Waltine Nauta, as well as Carlos de Oliveira. And in this reply brief that Jack Smith filed, he conclusively stated, look what happened with Stan Woodward, Judge. This is why we need a Garcia hearing. And what Jack Smith lays out, if you've been following us on the Midas Touch Network, this is what we said we believed happened, and this is exactly how it went down, that employee number four, who we've identified here, it's not identified in Jack Smith's motion, but it's Usul Tavares, the head of IT, was represented by Stan Woodward. So Stan Woodward represented Waltine Nauta as well as Usul Tavares. Prior to the indictment being handed down in the Southern District of Florida on June 8th of 2023.

Special Counsel Jack Smith was engaged in an ongoing criminal investigation. And as he held interviews with his teams, with many, all of the witnesses, Usel Tavares was one of the witnesses. Usel Tavares showed up in Jack Smith's office, represented by Stan Woodward. And as Jack Smith explains, Yusel Tavares, the head of IT, lied and said that he did not know anything about the surveillance footage. He knew nothing about the classified documents. That was a lie. And Jack Smith, through his other subpoenas and warrants and investigative work, knew that Yusel Tavares, along with Carlos de Oliveira,

the head of maintenance, along with Walti Nauta and Trump, collectively discussed destroying surveillance footage, constituting the crime of obstruction of justice. So by lying in March of 2023 to Jack Smith and investigators, that became an independent crime as well that Tavares committed, that Carlos de Oliveira committed, that Waltine Nauta committed as well. And so Jack Smith knew that. Now, Jack Smith indicts Donald Trump and Waltine Nauta June 8th, 2023. But the grand jury in Washington, D.C. continues its work specifically regarding the false statements made by Yusel Tavares and by Carlos de Oliveira. Remember, it wasn't until the superseding indictment that Carlos de Oliveira was brought in as a defendant in this action. So as of June 8, 2023, it was just Trump and Waltine Nauta who were criminal defendants in this action. So as of June 8th, 2023, it was just Trump and Waltine Nauta who

were criminal defendants in that action. So because the false statements were made to Jack Smith by Carlos de Oliveira and Usel Tavares in DC, Jack Smith, even though he indicted Donald Trump in Florida, continued to use the Washington DC grand jury, which is presided over by Jeb Boasberg, to address the false statements. Jack Smith made a brilliant move here, which Judge Eileen Cannon seems to be taking issue with, but Jack Smith addressed exactly what went down and kind of called Eileen Cannon out in this motion. You see, what Jack Smith did is after he brought the indictment on June 8th, 2023, which was voted on by a Florida grand jury because the crimes of willful retention

of national defense information by Trump were committed at Mar-a-Lago, so it was properly venued in Florida. Then the next week, Jack Smith goes to Jeb Boasberg, who's presiding over the DC grand jury, and says, we need to hold a Garcia hearing because it is vital to inform and to have a hearing where Yusel Tavares, the head of IT, knows about this potential conflict of interest. And let's see if Yusel Tavares wants to hire or bring in his own lawyer because he could be appointed a federal public defender to represent him and he can know that he has that right. So he doesn't have to be represented by the lawyer being paid for by Donald Trump's Political Action Committee. So Jeb Boasberg held a hearing and informed Yusel Tavares.

This was after the first indictment of his rights. And Tavares was like, and he had just received a target letter around that, that he could be potentially criminally prosecuted. And then Tavares was like, I don't want to be represented by Stan Woodward anymore. I want to have a federal public defender represent me and I'm ready to tell Jack Smith the truth so I don't get charged by Jack Smith. Support for Midas is brought to you by Manscaped, who has the best in men's below the waist grooming products. That's right. Their products are precision engineered tools for your family jewels. Join over 8 million men worldwide who trust Manscaped with this exclusive offer for you.

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political action arm. So Judge Eileen Cannon was then recently, about two weeks ago, was apparently watching Fox, where one of Trump's surrogates and former lawyers, Jim Trustee, called out the Washington DC grand jury proceedings as being improper because on her own, Judge Eileen Cannon demanded that Jack Smith submit a brief on the propriety of using a Washington, D.C. grand jury to develop evidence while a case was pending in Florida. And because Jack Smith then had also teed up the Garcia hearings, he was ready, Cannon, you want to know why we did it? Because there were false statements that were made by Tavares and Carlos de Oliveira in Washington, D.C. And Yusel Tavares told us the truth. And now what we're doing here is exactly, Your Honor, what we did in D.C. Because now that Carlos de Oliveira and Walti Nauta have been charged here, we now are going to, Your Honor, and you should be doing exactly what Jeb Boasberg, the federal judge who presides over the Washington, D.C. grand jury did. Because Jack Smith realized, too, that Judge Eileen Cannon is so corrupt that if you just went to her

and asked for a Garcia hearing on her own, she probably wouldn't grant it and she wouldn't inform the defendants of the potential conflicts of interest and what the issues are. So Jack Smith now is like, look, and this is going to, if Cannon denies a Garcia hearing done in the way that Jack Smith wants to do it, Jack Smith's going to go and get the appeal to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeal and say, look, this is what the DC judge, Jeb Boasberg did, federal judge. And look, it turned out that while represented by a Trump paid for lawyer, he was lying. And then once he had independent counsel, he told the truth. And so what Jack Smith is focused on right now is I think he realizes that Trump is not letting Walti Nauta out of his sight at all. But I think Jack Smith

realizes that Carlos de Oliveira, the head of maintenance, he should know that the main reason he's being charged is because he decided to lie. He decided to have the Trump-appointed lawyer, the Trump-paid-for lawyer, instead of independent counsel. But see, now Jack Smith, through this reply, can also be telling Carlos de Oliveira and sending a message there that maybe Carlos de Oliveira's lawyer, John Irving, is not delivering, which is, if you cooperate, there will be leniency on you. You are being dragged down here by Donald Trump. Why are you doing that? You're going to destroy your future.

I think that's what Jack Smith is focused on here. And so when Eileen Cannon said, please talk to me about the propriety of the grand jury in D.C., Jack Smith was like, bet. I'll tell you about the propriety of D.C. The propriety is that false statements were made to us in Washington, DC when these people were represented by Trump's lawyers. And then when the DC judge appointed an independent lawyer, Usel Tavares told us the truth. And to examine false statements, which is an independent crime committed in Washington, DC, we needed to utilize that

grand jury. And by the way, judge, we've been keeping you informed of this. We've been notifying you of this, Judge Cannon. So now Judge Cannon, she's been outmaneuvered. I mean, what does Judge Cannon, she's going to what, reject the Garcia hearing and not inform Carlos de Oliveira and Walti Nauta of the conflicts, not go through the ramifications. What's she going to do? Walti Nauta's lawyer, Stan Woodward, is telling Judge Cannon, and this is what Jack Smith is pointing out, that he wants, Stan Woodward, the Trump paid for lawyer, wants to now suppress the testimony of Yusel Tavares as a remedy for the conflicts of interest that Stan Woodward and Trump are responsible for.

By the way, that's the kind of absurd ruling that I wouldn't be shocked if Judge Eileen Cannon makes suppressing the evidence of Yusel Tavares. But all of this, Jack Smith has put the chess pieces perfectly in place for an appeal and to try to get Judge Cannon removed as he's moving up all of his other cases, as he's moving up the case in Washington, D.C. before Judge Tanya Chutkin. So this is brilliant strategizing here by Jack Smith. And now the ball's in Judge Eileen Cannon's court. You know she's going to make the wrong ruling here. She always makes the wrong ruling. And when she does, because she's created this tangled web and Jack Smith was ready, here's

what I did at DC. That's the propriety. Here's why we need the Garcia hearing. And you're going to create a situation, Judge Cannon, where you're basically furthering criminal conduct. You see how he set the perfect trap there? And now she's going to have to do an order. You know she's going to make the wrong order. So we'll follow up what happens there. But that's what this reply is. Reply in further support of government's motion for Garcia hearing. Brilliant work by Jack Smith. Just brilliant lawyering. Go to MidasTouch.com to get more updates. MidasTouch.com. And wherever you get audio podcasts, subscribe to the Midas

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