The MeidasTouch Podcast - Leader Jeffries Discusses Total Chaos in House GOP

Episode Date: November 30, 2025

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Santa gets cookies. You get Rees. Nothing else is Reese. Maga Mike Johnson is spiraling out of control as it becomes increasingly possible. He can lose his speakership. We've been reporting how lots of other MAGA Republican Congress members are threatening to resign. They've had enough of Maga Mike. They've had enough of Donald Trump.

And they want to leave the same way Marjorie Taylor Green left. By the way, just as Kevin McCarthy went on Fox and said that he believed that Marjorie Taylor Green's resignation was, quote, the canary in the calm mind, a warning that more MAGA Republican Congress members are about to go. And MAGA Mike better do something or he's about to lose his speakership. So what does MAGA Mike do? Well, he goes on Stephen Miller's wife's podcast,

which as of the time I'm recording this, it got about 233 views. But I will tell you what happens as MAGA Mike literally loses it. Like, the guy is losing his mind. So he's there with his wife, and then he starts doing, like, weird dance moves to pretend he's cool. Here, let me show you this. Here, play this clip. You know who jelly roll is?

Do I? Yes, we have selfies together. Right. So then he's there with his wife, Kelly Johnson. And here's what he talks about over here, about being speaker. Let's just play this clip. Now, probably no downtime. Yeah.

Hardly any downtime, for me. No, that's right. I mean, even when you think, like, the work of the day is done and you put the phone down, I mean, this would be 11.30 at night. Ring, ring, what? Another crisis, you know, I mean, you're sort of like a firefighter in a way you have to put out fires every, you know, every hour. And there's more from Maga Mike and his wife right here,

and he tries to say, like, the Democratic shutdown, it's all of their fault. Here, play this clip. It's, it is such an all-encompassing. role because you're in charge of not just the policy and legislative side, but it's the fundraising, the politics, the member management, you know, all the various aspects. And it is a, I mean, somebody asked me the day, we were accused when we were out of session when the Democrats closed the government down a couple weeks ago.

Hakeem Jeffries is a Democrat leader in the House, and he was out saying, the Speaker Johnson put the House on vacation. And I thought it was laughable. And I was on Fox News Sunday last weekend and Shannon Breen asked about that. I said, that's fine. I haven't had a vacation day in two years. I haven't been off in two years, literally. So it really does.

Maybe Christmas Day. Maybe Christmas. But even then. Even then, last Christmas, I'm taking calls from members with their drama. You know, so, I mean, that's part of it. We accept the responsibility. It's for a season of life. It's not forever.

But it takes everything out of whomever serves in a position and, by extension, their family. So we're blessed to have a close-knit group. It's a team effort for sure. And you have to feel called to it together. No doubt. And it's a true honor, though. It's, it is difficult, but it is an honor to serve our country. And then Maga Mike here talks about how the process of becoming speaker was very rushed because no one wanted Maga Mike to even be the speaker in the first place. Here, let's play this clip right here. It all felt very rushed and not something I don't believe you guys prepared for. Oh, no, not at all. In fact, it was, it was such a surprise that I, wasn't even here for it.

As I told him, I said, we don't know what's going to happen. I mean, we've already seen what's already happened. And so I'm just, I'm not going to come up there. And then, so I missed it. But yeah, our lives changed overnight. And we were not prepared for it. But we've just been taking it one day at a time. And we are adjusting finally.

We are finally getting used to it. I just found that first clip interesting where Maga Mike's like, peeing the speaker is like being a firefighter, and every day I've got to put out fires right now. All right, well, let's take a look at some of those fires, Maga Mike, as Jake Sherman from Punch Bowl reported. First, you talked about all the Maga Republicans who seem to be ready to be resigning very soon. And then Sherman writes,

since his prior report ran four hours ago, he's now gotten countless more text messages from House Republicans agreeing with the sentiment. and saying, why the hell should we stay in Congress if all we're going to do is vote on censure motions and be a potted plant for Trump and Maga Mike? Marjorie Taylor Green repost this from Ann Vandersteel, who writes, it's over, the whole Maga Sciop is over, it's America only ride or die. Don't slide into my DMs whining about flipping on Trump. He flipped on us.

Even Tucker Carlson saying, I'm not a Republican. anymore. Dave betrayed us. Watch what he has to say. Here, play this clip. And on the Republican Party, which is almost to the point where it's just useless, and I'm going to have to oppose it because they're just, I hate them too much, but because they're such betrayers. But anyway, in the Republican Party, it's like, you a socialist? Are you from Mondani? No, not really a socialist. Just I don't want any more dollar stores. I don't want high-density housing in my neighborhood. I don't want any more fucking strip malls that nobody goes to. No more karate studios and vape shops. How about no?

Well, all of that's taking place. Donald Trump's been panicking over the idea, the threat that Republicans may lose Tennessee's 7th congressional district. There's a special election that's taking place in the next week or so there, where you have the MAGA Republican candidate Matt Van Epps running against the pro-democracy candidate, Afton Bain. Afton's been on Midas Touch podcast. I'm sure you saw the interview I did with her.

She was absolutely great. This was an area that Trump won by 20 points. Trump is freaked out. He's been posting, please vote Van Heps. Please vote Van Heps. Say Trump plus 20 district. I think it's going to be a very close race and it's possible Afton Bain wins. And if she does, Democrats have a real ability to potentially take control of the House. Not after that seat, but we need a few more resignations. And then I think that that could happen actually. And you're hearing lots of reporting about it. By the way, don't take my word for it. Here's what Kevin McCarthy said that Marjorie Taylor Green's resignation is a. the canary in the coal mine here, play this clip. Okay. What happened, by the way, with MTG, she's leaving Congress? She's leaving Congress, but I don't think that's the end that you'll see about her. And I think, look, I've always believed that any time you have an elected official that's

known by three initials, they're effective on what they do. And I found Marjorie to be very effective, but she's almost like a canary in a coal mine. And this is something inside Congress, they better wake up because they're going to get a lot of people retiring and they got a focus. I think keeping members out of Congress, you only get two years to be in the majority. And if the Democrats get you not to work every day for two months, that's losing two months of the majority.

To help us make some sense of this, if we can, Democratic leader, Hakeem Jeffries, leader, Jeffries, it's so great to see you. What do you make of this right now, these rumblings that were hearing in the Republican Party of utter chaos? Trump and Republicans are completely falling apart. They've been a total failure from the beginning of the year,

broken their core promise, which was to drive down the high cost of living. Costs are going up, housing costs out of control, childcare costs out of control, grocery costs out of control, electricity bills through the roof. And now they continue to refuse to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits, meaning they're going to make health care unaffordable for tens of millions of folks. At the same time, they're unleashing this. incredible extremism on the American people. Donald Trump is deeply unpopular. They got wiped out in

elections all across the country up and down the ballot from New Jersey to New York to Virginia, to Pennsylvania, to Georgia, to Mississippi, to California, and at all points in between. And now you've got Republicans who are ready to get out of the town before sundown. And I think these reports that Republicans are going to follow Marjorie Taylor Green to the exit. These are all consistent with some of the things that we're hearing in the United States House of Representatives when we're on the floor. Yeah, what do you make of the fact that Trump was going to talk about, I don't want to call it a plan, but he was apparently going to talk about extending Affordable Care Act subsidies because

he realized how popular it is to extend those and how it was harming him. So he was about to do a press conference. Then from all of the reporting, Maga Mike Johnson with all of, you know, his crew in the house said, if you do that, basically, the resignations are probably going to start to happen sooner than expected. You can't do that. And then Donald Trump backed off. So there was an announcement that he was going to do something in public and then they shut

it down. It was erratic and it was odd. But it's also kind of playing with the people who need this right now. And so it was almost extra cruel, I felt. What do you make of it? It's incredible to me that Donald Trump was prepared to address the Affordable Care Act tax credit issue. And then House Republicans, led by Speaker Johnson, made clear that you can't do that because our members, for whatever reason, want to see tens of millions of people experience these dramatically increased premiums, co-pays, and deductibles. This is extraordinary.

But we waged a month-long fight, months-long fight, as it relates to the Affordable Care Act tax credits, and indicated that it's not over with just getting started. And this is only going to end in one of two ways. Either Republicans are going to agree to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits before December 31st of this year, or the American people are going to throw Republicans out of office because of their failure to make their life. life better. And that's the dilemma that Republicans are in right now. As Democrats in the House, we're continuing to press our case with a three-year extension connected with a discharge petition. We have over 200 signatures already. At the end of the day, when we return to Washington next week, we only need a handful of House Republicans to join us and will be able to successfully force an up or down vote on extending the Affordable Care Act tax credits, and that's our intention.

Do you think there's a realistic possibility for that discharge petition in order to extend the Affordable Care Act subsidies from what you're hearing? I believe that the votes do exist to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits, and we're in active discussion with our colleagues on the other side of the aisle, particularly now that Mike Johnson has killed the ability of legislation. to be put forth for us to negotiate and discuss from the Trump administration, this is going to have to be an approach that has been taken in other occasions. Most recently, of course, as it relates to forcing the release of the Epstein files and the legislation that was triggered

by the discharge petition when Representative Adelaide Grahavel became the 218th signature. We're going to have to take a similar approach. Listen, Mike Johnson had House Republicans on vacation, a taxpayer-funded vacation for seven weeks. This guy is uninteresting. in governing or doing anything to make life better for the American people. That's part of what is causing this great Republican dissatisfaction. And also, they know they're headed to defeat. Marjorie Taylor Green in her farewell video made that clear. Republicans are about to lose control of the House of Representatives.

That's one of the reasons why we're going to see continued retirements when people sit down with their families over the Thanksgiving break and realize they don't want to come back to the malignant clown show. that has been the House Republican Conference. Are you noticing a different in the way Republicans are acting in the past few weeks since the shutdown? I mean, you mentioned that they seem more receptive to potentially a discharge petition on the Affordable Care Act, subsidy extension. If you and I were speaking, say, two months ago, doesn't seem like that would ever be the case.

So that seems like a new development. Are you seeing that these cracks that are being talked about? behind the scenes, Republicans who see themselves as very vulnerable are now speaking to either you or the whip or other people in leadership to say, what can we, what can we do? Like, we'll agree to these things. Are you seeing things like that? Because that sounds like a difference. It's a combination of a few things coming together at the same point in time. We took the fight to them during the Trump Republican shutdown. The American people clearly have held Republicans responsible for shutting down the government, saw all manner of cruel and everyone.

responsible behavior during the Trump shutdown, including ripping food away from the mouths of hungry children and seniors and veterans unnecessarily, while at the same time refusing to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits. Republicans are struggling with their gerrymandering scheme at best. We are going to fight them to neutral. That's not what Republicans expected was going to happen. And there's a worst case scenario for Republicans where they actually may net lose seats at the end of the day. So you've got angry Republicans, particularly from California, who feel like their seats have been taken away from them because of Republican action on this gerrymandering stuff to no end

at the end of the day. Then Republicans were wiped out in early November across the country because of their unwillingness to address the cost of living issues, which is out of control in this country, while Democrats are running toward that affordability issue, making clear we want to fight hard and will continue to do so to lower the high cost of living, fix our broken health care system, and clean up corruption that's rampant under Republican control of government right now. And then, of course, they lost the battle as it relates to the Epstein files. The survivors won, the American people won.

All of these things are coming together at the same period of time. And so Republicans, I think, are starting to realize that despite the... their claim that they had some massive mandate, nobody can find it. It doesn't exist. The American people are rejecting their extremism and embracing the democratic view, which is anchored in making life better for the American people. And Donald Trump goes on vacation again. I mean, he leaves on Tuesday. I mean, okay, I get, I mean, Thanksgiving's Thursday, and I understand that it's a holiday, but dude, I mean, you're like, there's a lot of things going on right now, and it just seems over and over again, all this guy wants to do is rush out to go to Mar-a-Lago and golf and grift, just over and

rinse repeat, rinse-repeat. Frank, golfing and grifting seems to be, you know, his favorite pastime as president of the United States of America, which is one of the reasons why the overwhelming majority of Americans are saying the country is moving in the wrong direction, and Republicans have gone too far enough with the extremism and their failure to do anything to make life better for everyday Americans. We've seen this unprecedented assault on all of the things, on the economy, on health care, on law-abiding immigrant communities, on veterans, on farmers, you know, on the American way of life, on the rule of law, and democracy itself, and the American people are rejecting this extremism. And that is the opportunity that's in front

of us so that we can continue to pour into the American people the notion that we're going to preserve this great country, this union, this democracy of ours, and we're going to end this national nightmare. So, you know, just as I observe Trump's behavior, he also just seems like deeply unwell. I don't know how else to describe it. I mean, you know, he often needs help walking. I see him zigzagging in the meeting with Putin. When he was with the prime minister of Japan, she had to like show him like where to go.

He talks about phone calls that he has with people and it seems like he's not having these phone calls and he's just, you know, and he's just making it up. And then he was asked about this MRI that he got and he said, I don't know which body part it was on. Who knows? Like, people don't know where they get MRIs, but it was the most perfect MRI. It strikes me as something that should be important and discussed that we don't just go,

hey, by the way, he's the only person who's ever gotten an MRI who says, I don't know what body part. Let's move on. I mean, because, you know, this guy is close to the new. nuclear weapons, you know, and I'm watching him when I'm like, this is someone who looks unwell. I don't know if it's dementia. I don't know if it's him getting old and that's how his body's respondent. I just know observing it that he looks deeply unwell. It's hard to tell what the heck is going on because the guy's been out of control for such a long period of time, lying for such a

long period of time, norm breaking for such a long period of time. The one thing that is clear is that this presidency has been a disaster and a failure. And it doesn't look like it's getting any better. He spends more time on the golf course than he does solving problems for the American people. And as you pointed out, Ben, going off again, jet setting down to his luxury resort where we'll see images again of him being on the golf course. Meanwhile, everyday Americans are struggling to make ends meet, can't thrive, can barely survive. Too many people live in paycheck to paycheck, and the American people are done with it all.

And, you know, it's going to be very interesting when we get back to Washington to see the continued erosion, I believe, of Donald Trump's grip on the Republican Party. The whole thing is falling apart. I mean, Marjorie Taylor Green, this was his ride or die biggest supporter. And now they're in the middle of a civil war. the whole thing is crashing and burning leader jeffreys we appreciate your time as always thank you so much thank you everybody hit subscribe let's get to six million subscribers want to stay plugged in become a subscriber to our substack at midasplus dot com you'll get daily recaps from ron philipkowski add free episodes of our podcast and more exclusive content only available at midasplus dot com