The MeidasTouch Podcast - MAGA Mike Could Be Toast as GOP Deal Implodes
Episode Date: May 8, 2025MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on MAGA Mike Johnson losing control over his Republican caucus in the House of Representatives over his “big beautiful” disastrous budget bill that Trump dema...nded. Dose: Save 30% on your first month of subscription by going to https://dosedaily.co/MEIDAS or entering MEIDAS at checkout. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mr. Speaker, the President, over the meeting of the President's interview,
would not say if he would uphold the Constitution when it comes to human rights for migrants.
I'm wondering, is the Constitutional Act a part of your concern?
He said, I don't know.
He was asked about... Is the President expected to be an expert on all of the Supreme Court cases?
I think he'll uphold the the consequences he's demonstrated.
That's MAGA Mike Johnson walking away from reporters.
MAGA Mike Johnson is once again in the hot seat.
His job is on the line as there is massive infighting in the MAGA Republican Party.
In that clip I just showed at the outset of this video, MAGA Mike Johnson was asked why Donald Trump say that he doesn't know if he needs to
follow the Constitution, to which MAGA Mike said, you can't expect Donald Trump
to know about all of those Supreme Court cases. I do. I do expect the president of the United
States to know about Supreme Court cases, but more fundamentally, MAGA Mike Johnson,
I expect Donald Trump to know about the United States Constitution and a very basic concept we
have here in the United States called due process. But that's not why Maga Mike Johnson is on the hot
seat. It's because he's trying to push through what Donald Trump is calling one big, beautiful
bill through a reconciliation process between the House of
Representatives and the Senate. And as we've reported before, under the blueprint that was
originally passed by the MAGA Republicans, which calls for, you know, in theory, trillions of
dollars in cuts, those cuts are coming from Medicaid. Those cuts are coming from education. Those cuts are
coming from agriculture. Those cuts are coming from infrastructure, while the billionaires are
getting massive, massive tax cuts. The Congressional Budget Office came out with a report today
at the request of Democrats and the nonpartisan
Congressional Budget Office. Let me repeat, nonpartisan CBO analysis of various Republican
plans for Medicaid spending reveals that under every scenario laid out by the GOP,
millions would lose insurance. The GOP's plans would have a disproportionate impact
on low-income and elderly populations.
Literally millions of people would lose their health care because there's going to be $800
billion plus in cuts to Medicaid.
How do we know it?
Because we can read their one big, beautiful bill and see it.
But you see what's happening right now, folks, is that the MAGA Republicans are fighting
each other because they are seeing, whoa, whoa,
whoa, it's almost 2026. The midterms are getting closer. Can you believe that, folks? Yes, hang in
there. It's the midterms before you know it are going to be right around the corner. And these
MAGA Republican Congress members are seeing Republicans get beat in seats during special
elections. They're seeing Supreme Court races in states
where Democrats have won big and they're saying, uh-oh, are we next? And the answer is yes. So
they're saying you can't cut Medicaid, you know, Maga Mike, because if you cut Medicaid, we're
definitely going to lose. Our best shot of staying in power is if you don't cut Medicaid.
Let's take a look right here at this article from CNN. House GOP
infighting turns ugly over Trump's big, beautiful bill. That's what he's calling it. And he's making
all the MAGA Republicans refer to it as the big, beautiful bill because they're fascist toddlers.
It says Donald Trump's big, beautiful bill is running into a wall in the sharply divided House
Republican conference with tension spiking over MAGA Mike Johnson handling of the party's biggest sticking point, overhauling Medicaid.
As Johnson presses for a House vote before Memorial Day, the battle lines are becoming
more pronounced. The Republicans in swing districts are saying the sweeping bill can't
slash social safety net benefits, while GOP hardliners are saying, bye-bye, Medicaid.
We don't care if people die and get sick, and they're demanding trillions of cuts,
many that would be in Medicaid. Those frustrations emerged in a two-hour meeting in Johnson's
leadership suite on Tuesday night, in which the speaker huddled with a roughly dozen GOP
centrists. What's a GOP centrist today? But okay, I'll bite.
A GOP centrist who have refused to back any Medicaid changes that could hurt eligible
Americans who rely on the program. Inside the room, Johnson made one more attempt to sell those
members on a contentious plan backed by the hard right house Freedom Caucus and others to sharply
reduce Medicaid payments to states that
expanded the program under obamacare according to two people in the room his push drew a rebuke
from multiple centrists there's no such thing as a centrist when it comes to republicans but okay
centrists in the room who believe that idea was already off the table that people said quote
we lay down the law one republican member who attended the meeting said, of the firm position many members took, that they don't want to shift the federal match,
which was like 90-10 right now, and move it all to the state, which basically means,
based on certain trigger laws that states have, Medicaid would go away in most states
under that plan.
Zero Medicaid.
It would eliminate Medicaid for people.
So if you're in Medicaid, that plan, shifting it to the states is bye-bye to your Medicaid. Johnson and his leadership team insist
in the end, the GOP members are going to all work together and they're going to make it all work.
On the one hand, you have Andrew Garbarino from a vulnerable seat in New York, MAGA Republican.
He goes, I don't want to be mean. And I think anytime it looks like we're actually hurting
people, that's going to piss off the American population.
And if you piss them off, they're probably not going to vote for you.
Notice that he says looks because if it didn't look that way, they'll be happy to be cruel and mean.
They just don't know how to hide what they're doing right there.
And then you have all these MAGA Republicans like Chip Roy and others basically saying, bye-bye to your Medicaid. It needs to be cut. Let's take a look at MAGA
Republican Speaker of the House, MAGA Mike Johnson over here. Here, he's talking about the big,
beautiful bill. And he's saying, this big, beautiful bill, those little girls got to say
bye-bye to their dolls. Why? Because Donald Trump said that little girls shouldn't have dolls or pencils.
They get one doll and they get five pencils because Donald Trump's regime does central planning.
And they say that's what little girls deserve.
Donald Trump and his family get to, what, they make $2.6 billion more in their crypto schemes and their resort deals with Qatar and Oman and Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi,
using their crypto coins.
But your daughter or granddaughter, how dare she have more than one doll?
She gets one doll, five pencils, and she's going to pay more for it.
You understand?
That's what they're saying.
And here, MAGA Mike Johnson says, we got to do it. We got to do that to the little girls. We got to pay more for it. You understand? That's what they're saying. And here, MAGA Mike Johnson says,
we got to do it.
We got to do that to the little girls.
We got to be the disruptors.
We got to disrupt the system
and it's going to cause you pain.
But you voted for pain, right?
Trump equals pain.
That's what you voted for.
Play this clip.
The president said over the weekend
that as a result of his tariff policy,
some kids may have fewer dolls
in two and three,
maybe not 20 or 30, fewer pencils, stores, prices could go up.
Is that the message that you want to send to the American public?
I didn't see the interview, but I'll just say that I think what the president is trying to communicate is,
as he mentioned with the tariff policy and with all the things that are happening,
we had to disrupt the system, and we're going to have the desired results. I mean, as you know, by some measures, more than
100 countries now renegotiating trade agreements, which would be much more fair for the American
people. And that is exactly what we were hoping and trying to achieve, what the president was
trying to achieve with that tariff policy, is more free and fair trade relations. And I think that
will be the result. So whatever short-term disruption there is or discomfort And I think that will be the result. So whatever short term disruption there
is or discomfort, I think what he's trying to say there, I think is that it will well pay off
in the long run. And I think that will happen sooner than many people anticipate. So we're
waiting to see and we'll hold the line. But reconciliation is on track. And if anybody
tells you otherwise, they're not in the room with us. All right. Thanks, guys.
Yeah. So that's the campaign they're running. The Trump causes you pain campaign.
Okay, no pun intended.
Here's MAGA Republican Chip Roy
talking about gutting Medicaid.
Let's play this clip.
Look, we have an obligation
to do what we said we would do.
The president said we should get our deficits
under control and balance the budget.
He recognizes that Medicaid needs to be reformed.
He said so.
His office has put it out.
We should deliver. We should deliver responsibly so we can deliver on the tax cuts, the growth that
we need, but also the health care reform so that we're not leaving the vulnerable on the outside
looking in and we're delivering deficit reduction for the American people rather than propping up a
failed program. Republicans need to find the willingness to fight. Here is MAGA Republican Senator Ron
Johnson from Wisconsin. Here's he's asked by Fox, are we going to get a tax bill before Memorial
Day as MAGA Mike Johnson promises? And Ron Johnson from Wisconsin says, nope, because of the stupid
big, beautiful bill thing. We could have got it done if we didn't do big, beautiful bill. But now
we have stupid, big, beautiful bill. Here, play clip. But the tax bill, will we get it before Memorial Day?
No, no, there's no way, because, again, unfortunately, President Trump chose the one
big, beautiful bill. What he should have done is the multiple step process. I suggest three steps.
Get the border funding. Second step, just extend current tax law. So we take an
automatic tax increase off the table. Will we get it before the end of the year quickly?
Not if we don't come down with a reasonable pre-pandemic level spending. There's enough
of us in the Senate that will not agree to that. Oh boy, that's bad news. Senator,
thank you for that. Appreciate it. Have a good weekend. Appreciate you coming on.
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Now, MAGA Republican who pretends he's not MAGA Republican, Mike Lawler from New York,
here he's asked on Fox Business, are you good with the MAGA plan
that they're talking about to shift Medicaid to the states? And MAGA Republican Mike Lawler,
who pretends not to be MAGA, goes, hell no, hell no, because he's trying to pretend that he's not
that MAGA, but he's very MAGA. Play this clip. Austin Scott was with me yesterday. He mentioned
about changes to Medicaid and how that could be a part of budget negotiations,
basically pulling away federal funding from Medicaid programs, meaning that a state like
New York would have to pay more for Medicaid and that the federal government would pay less.
Do you have a position on that before you go? Hell no. New York is a donor state. We pay more into the federal government than we get back.
I'm adamantly opposed to changing the FMAP floor from 50 percent federal share to 45 percent federal share.
That will be a hard no.
Here's MAGA Republican GOP conference chair Lisa McClain from Michigan.
Here she's like, yeah, it's getting messy, but that's D.C. for you. We're getting messy. We're getting messy. Here, play this clip.
It's going to get messy, right? It's not going to be perfect, as you're seeing. And everybody's doing what they need to do, which is represent their district, right?
But at the end of the day, we'll all come together and we'll end up passing one big, beautiful bill.
Are markets going to happen next week? They're still scheduled to happen.
So I think we're making progress, right?
And don't let the disagreement and the debate get us too far off track, right?
There's going to be disagreement.
There's going to be debate.
But right now, the markups are still scheduled.
I think they're still going to happen, but anything can change. It's D.C.
Is the timeline slipping? Is the timeline slipping?
The timeline is not slipping. If we have the markups next week, I mean, it's a tight timeline,
no question. So as long as the markups happen next week, we can still do the 31st, you know, Memorial day of deadline,
but we just got to get to work and keep working and keep talking and
talking is progress.
In my opinion,
you're getting messy.
Look,
y'all haven't passed a budget now in what,
what has it been four years since you've passed it?
And you didn't pass the budget.
You've been doing continuing resolution
CRs from Nancy Pelosi's budget from 2021 or 2022. Y'all haven't been able to pass a budget,
your most basic task. So here you are trying to do it. You're calling it one big, beautiful bill.
And while you're doing it, you're crushing the economy. You're causing a lot of pain and suffering.
But Trump don't care.
Trump's selling meme coins.
We're only 57 wallets.
57, like, people who bought Trump meme coins made money.
747,000 lost money.
Wow, what do you know?
Another Trump scam.
Chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, announced yesterday,
if tariffs are not reduced, we should expect higher inflation and lower employment.
And he did not lower interest rates as a result.
What else are we learning?
The U.S. is pushing nations facing tariffs to approve Elon Musk's Starlink,
is what the intelligence cables are showing.
Some countries are being told,
if you don't get Elon Starlink,
you're gonna get hurt economically.
So I guess that's what it's all about.
According to Goldman Sachs,
inflation is about to imminent.
Goldman Sachs has had conservative financial models erring on the side of bullish over bearish.
And now Goldman's getting very bearish.
According to Goldman Sachs,
inflation is about to imminently take off and not stop accelerating until June 2026.
Lots more inflation.
So that's what you've got, MAGA Mike.
One big, beautiful mess that y'all created for we the people.
So we'll check back in, MAGA Mike, if you lose your job.
If you lose your job, punch the mic. Thank you for watching. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers.
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