The MeidasTouch Podcast - MAGA Mike Gets Stabbed in the Back by the GOP

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Republican Speaker MAGA Mike Johnson getting undermined by those he thought were closest to him in the GOP. Pacagen: Get 15% OFF your order plus a special gi...ft at https://Pacagen.com/MEIDAS Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:24 So you're hosting the family barbecue this week, but everyone knows your brother is the grill guy, and it's highly likely he'll be backseat barbecuing all night. So be it. Impress even the toughest of critics with freshly prepared Canadian barbecue favorites from Sobeys. Maga Mike Johnson, the Republican speaker of the House,
Starting point is 00:01:44 is getting clowned on. He just got devastating news as more Maga Republican senators in the Senate are saying no way, no how are they supporting the big, disastrous bill that Maga Mike and Donald Trump want to push forward. But get this, you know who else is also tag teaming Mike and Donald Trump and telling them no way, no how with this budget bill? Elon Musk and Ron DeSantis. By the way, you also have the chair of the Republican National Committee, a guy named Michael Watley, saying that this thing is no bueno as well.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Let me take a look as Magomite gets his worst nightmare smacked down. What the hell are you going to do, Magomite Johnson? So here we have Mago Republican Senator Rick Scott, who was involved in the biggest Medicaid and Medicare fraud in the history of the United States. That's how he got his money after pleading the fifth dozens and dozens of times in a case against his company. But here he says, uh-uh, he ain't voting on the budget bill. Watch MAGA Republican Senator Rick Scott play this clip. So, Senator, would you say without any changes at its current composition, would
Starting point is 00:03:05 you vote no? Oh, absolutely. I'd vote no. This bill doesn't have it. If they brought it to the floor right now, there's not a chance it'll get the 51 votes it needs. Now here is leaked audio from the RNC chair saying that the Republicans voted for the largest tax increase in American history with Trump's budget bill. This came from Factpost that clipped it and Hakeemian who noted it. Play this clip. What we saw was the largest tax increase in the American history that the Republicans had voted for.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Every single Democrat voted against it. Here we've got Elon Musk saying uh-uh he's not in support of this play this clip so you know I was like disappointed to see the massive spending bill frankly which increases the budget deficit not this decrease it and it reminds the work that the doge team is doing I actually thought that when this big beautiful bill came along, I mean like everything he's done on Doge gets wiped out in the first year. I think a bill can be big or it can be beautiful. But I don't know if it can be both.
Starting point is 00:04:18 My personal opinion. This was a speech from Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, saying that this is a bad bill that the Republicans in the House and in Congress in general have betrayed the American people. Play this clip. Yet we have a Republican Congress and to this day, we're in the end of May, past Memorial Day, and not one cent in Doge cuts have been implemented by the Congress. That's one of the reasons why we need a balanced budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It's another reason why we need term limits for members of Congress. But I think what you've seen with how, and I kind of said this early on, that Doge and Elon were on a collision course with the swamp. And the question is, what would happen?
Starting point is 00:05:19 And I don't think there's any question that Doge fought the swamp and so far the swamp has won. And that's just unfortunate, but I don't think you can look at this any other way. More from MAGA Republican Senator Rick Scott. Because our audience is like, wait a second, I thought it passed the House. Are you saying that the Senate can change it and then there's a reconciliation between the House and the Senate? Is that correct? Yeah, Charlie, we'll change it. We'll have our own bill and what will happen is it will go back to through a conference or just go back to the house
Starting point is 00:05:48 and they'll pass our bill. But I believe we're going to dramatically reduce mandatory spending to get this budget balanced in a short period of time, which is what we have to do. Here's Rick Scott again, right here, play this clip. The house bill cuts the spending by less than 2% over the next 10 years. It doesn't balance the budget. It doesn't even close the balance in the budget. So there's a whole bunch of us. We are going to fight like hell to balance this budget. Now we're seeing fractures even among MAGA Republicans in the House of Representatives as well who voted for this thing. For example, you've got a MAGA Republican Congress member named Tom Tiffany from Wisconsin's Seventh,
Starting point is 00:06:33 who says he wants to see more cuts to Medicaid, play this clip. Are you concerned at all that the Senate would look to cut Medicaid even more in a quest to find more savings? I think there's some ways in which they can find more savings? I think there's some ways in which they can find more savings. And I think over time, it's going to be important to do that.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Because if we're going to protect and save that program for who it's meant to be, which is the vulnerable, it's someone that has a disability, pregnant women, poor people. If we're going gonna protect that program for who it was meant for, there are more reforms that can be made. Okay, so here's the deal. I love animals, always have,
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Starting point is 00:08:59 President Trump has suggested that the debt is not really top of mind of his concerns. He wants Republicans to fall in line. He wants Republicans to pass the bill. You told CNN, quote, somebody's got to be the dad that says, I know y'all want to go to Disney World, but we can't afford it. I guess I'm going to be that guy, unquote. So how determined are you to be that guy if it actually means telling President Trump
Starting point is 00:09:21 you are going to vote against the bill and you're going to try to get other Republican senators to join you unless there are major, major changes. Well, in 2010, I sprang out of the Tea Party movement and as I did praise my, I would shout, this is a fight for freedom. We are mortgaging our children's future. It's wrong. It's immoral. It has to stop. I haven't changed.
Starting point is 00:09:44 My campaign promise in 2010 and every campaign after that was to stop mortgaging our children's future is wrong, it's immoral, it has to stop. I haven't changed. My campaign promise in 2010 and every campaign after that was to stop mortgaging our children's future. It's immoral, it's wrong, it has to stop. And so he may not be worried about that. I am extremely worried about that. That is my primary goal running for Congress. This is our moment. We have witnessed an unprecedented level
Starting point is 00:10:04 of increased spending 58 since 2019 other than world war ii this is this is our only chance to reset that to a reasonable pre-pandemic level of spending and again i think you can do it and the spending that we would eliminate people wouldn't even notice but you have to do the work which takes time MAGA Republican Senator Rand Paul saying he ain't supporting this. That expending somebody has to stand up and yell. The emperor has no clothes and everybody's falling in lockstep on this past the big, beautiful bill.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Don't question anything. Well, conservatives do need to stand up and have their voice heard. This is a problem we've been facing for decades now. And if we don't stand up on it, I really fear the direction of the country is going. Okay, the Senator, excuse me, the Speaker. And here he explains one of the reasons why he says it's going to add trillions to the deficit. And he goes, just look, the budget bill itself calls for raising the debt ceiling
Starting point is 00:11:01 by four trillion over the next two years. They're going to run $2 trillion deficits per year. I think it's going to be more play this clip. Biden spending levels. When March, every Republican, virtually every Republican, other than me, voted to continue the Biden spending levels, which are going to give us a $2.2 trillion deficit. Now, if you increase the debt ceiling, four to $5 trillion, that means they're planning on two trillion this year and more than two trillion next year.
Starting point is 00:11:27 That's just not conservative. So I've told them if they strip out the debt ceiling, I'll consider even with the imperfections voting for the rest of the bill, but I can't vote to raise the debt ceiling five trillion. There's gotta be someone left in Washington who thinks debt is wrong and deficits are wrong and wants to go in the other direction.
Starting point is 00:11:43 The idea that we're going to explode deficits and the projections are now looking at over three trillion dollars in deficits over the next 10 years. I think it's just, you know, not a serious proposal. So, you know, the you know, who's also against the budget bill in its current form. Magga Republican Senator Josh Hawley play this clip. So if this bill comes over from the House to the Senate and you have to vote on it, are you know if this bill does not change?
Starting point is 00:12:09 No, I'm not gonna support this bill from the House in this form. I think that's clear. It's gotta change before it can pass the Senate. And I continue to stand by my line in the sand, which is no Medicaid benefit cuts. Listen, if you wanna do work requirements, I'm all for that.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I bet every Republican, and I bet most Americans would agree with that. But we're not talking here about just work requirements. The House goes much, much, much further than that. This is real Medicaid benefit cuts. I can't support that. No Republican should support that. We're the party of the working class, Mano.
Starting point is 00:12:37 We need to act like it. Maga Republican Senator Kevin Kramer, play the clip. It's rich, Kevin coming from a freedom package. It's supposed to be fiscal, fiscal conservatives and end up with not that conservative. No, it's electors. What we're gonna do is we're gonna pass a bill that can get 50 volts and whatever other numbers
Starting point is 00:13:00 come along with that, the magic number is 50. In other words, both can actually pass the bill. come along with that in September 15. In other words, both of them actually passed the bill. Magga Republican Senator Lindsey Graham play the clip. Some of the Freedom Caucus members are warning you guys not to water down any of their cuts. What do you say to them? You had your chance. There's some of these cuts are not real.
Starting point is 00:13:30 that there's some of these cuts are not real. And we're talking about over a decade, you know, if you do a trade and a half, that's like a percent and a half. So let's don't get higher on our horse here that we've somehow made some major advancement of reducing spending because we did. And one of the things that Maga Mike Johnson has done here as well, is he's highlighted the cruelty of the GOP platform, right? He's showing that they want to cut food assistance, SNAP, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, cut rental assistance programs to people. If you're making between zero and 50,000 or 51,000,
Starting point is 00:14:09 you literally just on day one, $1,000 gets taken from you and gets given to people who make more than $4.3 million, who will be saving an extra $370,000. The billionaires are going to get literally trillions of dollars in tax cuts right here and Medicaid and Medicare is cut. But here's what Mike Johnson had to say about cutting SNAP in his own congressional district here playing this clip. We don't want to slash benefits. And again, I make this very clear. We are not cutting
Starting point is 00:14:40 Medicaid. We are not cutting SNAP. We're working in the elements of fraud, waste and abuse. SNAP, for example, listen to the statistics in 2024, over $11 billion in SNAP payments were erroneous. I mean, that's a number that everyone acknowledges is real. It may be much higher. Louisiana is like the second largest recipient of food stamps in the country, sir. Let me explain it, Margaret. Let me explain it. The states, the states are not properly administering this because they don't have enough skin in the game. So what we've done in the bill is add some, just a modest state sharing component so that they'll pay attention to that so that we can reduce fraud. Why? Again, so that it is preserved for the people that need it the most. This is common sense, Margaret. It's good government and everybody
Starting point is 00:15:21 on both sides of the aisle should agree to that. Well, Senator Hawley. There you have it. I've got the receipts. We're going to see. Here's my prediction. We had they're not going to pass anything. We're going to head right up to an issue where they got to raise the debt ceiling. And we're going to have an issue of a potential government shutdown. Everybody's going to scramble and panic. And that's just how the GOP does business. Like Trump, the bankruptor, the felon, the sexual abuser, the criminal. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers. Can't get enough Midas? Check out the Midas Plus sub stack for ad free articles, reports, podcasts, daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski and more. Sign up for free now at MidasPlus.com.

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