The MeidasTouch Podcast - MAGA Podcasters Abandon Trump and Attack Each Other

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on the top MAGA podcasters ditching Trump and JD Vance and doing so in very public announcements while also attacking each other in public and declaring war on each other. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey Ontario, come down to BetMGM Casino and see what our newest exclusive the Price is Right Fortune Pick has to offer. Don't miss out, play exciting casino games based on the iconic game show, only at BetMGM. Check out how we've reimagined three of the show's iconic games like Plinko, Clifhanger, and the Big Wheel into fun casino game features. Don't forget to download the BetMGM Casino app for exclusive access and excitement on the Price's Right Fortune Pick. Pull up a seat and experience the price is right fortune pick, only available at BetMGM Casino. BetMGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly, 19 plus to wager. Ontario only, please play responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact ConX Ontario at 1866-531-260 to speak to an advisor, free of charge.

BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Imagine if today was the day your idea changed someone's life. Imagine if you could help someone pay for college. Help your community build a new playground or help a child make it to that dream competition. With GoFundMe, it's all possible. GoFundMe is the world's number one fundraising platform trusted by over 190 million people.

Every week, ordinary people meet their goals and do extraordinary things. Your ideas matter. GoFundMe isn't just for emergencies. Want to raise money for your kids' soccer team or raise funds for a small business, a creative project or event. GoFundMe helps you turn ideas into reality. And help adds up.

Fundraisers you start for someone else, raise up to five times more. So think right now. Who could use your help? Change rarely comes from waiting. It comes from someone deciding, today I'll start. Don't wait for someone else to bring change. Today, start your fundraiser in just minutes at gofundme.com. That's gofund me.com to start your fundraiser.

Gofund me.com. This is a commercial message brought to you by GofundMe. This podcast is supported by TalkSpace. When my husband came home from his military deployment, readjusting was hard for all of us. Thankfully, I found Talkspace. Talkspace provides professional support from licensed therapists and psychiatric providers online.

Military members, veterans, and their dependents ages 13 and older can get fast access to providers, all from the privacy of their computers or smartphones. I just answered a few questions online, and Talkspace matched me with a therapist. We meet when it's convenient for me, and I can message her any time. It was so easy to set up, and they accept TRICARE.

Therapy was going so well. My husband and I started seeing a couples therapist through Talkspace, too. Talkspace works with most major insurers, including TRICARE. Match with a licensed therapist today at Talkspace.com slash military. Go to Talkspace.com slash military to get started today. That's Talkspace.com slash military. As MAGA crashes and burns, MAGA podcasters are publicly turning

against Donald Trump and his despicable regime. You also have MAGA podcasters attacking each other. Let me bring you the receipts, a reminder. Make sure you subscribe to the Midas Touch YouTube channel. We're on our way to 6 million subscribers. You may think you're subscribed, but you may not be actually subscribed. Double check, hit subscribe,

and turn on notifications. Now, MAGA podcaster Andy Fricela, one of the biggest MAGA podcasters out there, a guy who was MAGA through and through. Here's what he just said about Donald Trump and Trump's regime play this clip. I'm going to say this right now, and I mean this. Okay, Donald Trump, you've lost touch with your fucking base.

You've lost touch with reality of what people actually want to see. and the people around you are either not telling you the truth or you're fucking in on it. And if you're not in on it, I would appreciate for you and I to have a discussion so I could inform you about what these people really want. Okay, so this can go on Twitter and you can have your people call me

and I will get my fucking happy ass on an airplane and I'll sit down and enjoy a motherfucking Big Mac with you and we will fucking get real clear about what people actually want because the motherfuckers around you are either full of shit or you're in on it. Yeah. And that's where people believe right now. Okay.

And here's the thing. A lot of people believe that. Yes. And here's the thing. Okay. I said on last show, you're going to go down as the president who had the opportunity to fix this country and chose not to. And you might say, oh, well, that doesn't really fucking matter.

Well, you know what? It's going to matter because your kids are never going to, your kids are going to get blackballed in America. Okay. Your legacy is going to be ruined. The Trump name will be. a fucking joke. And I know you care about those things. And you should. Former MAGA podcaster Candice Owens just went on Pierre's Morgan. And here's what she had to say about Donald Trump.

Let's play this clip. Are you done with Donald Trump? Or could you see a way that you would end up perhaps voting for him? You can't run again, obviously. But would you support him publicly again? So I want to be clear. I don't regret voting for Donald Trump above Kamala. I think he was a better candidate. Certainly a better candidate above Joe Biden. But what I will say is that he's been a chronic disappointment. And I feel embarrassed that I told people to go vote for him because this wasn't going to happen and it is happening. But I just think that the picture of politics in America is going to look very differently because of his actions. So I don't know where we go from here. I really don't. But this is not the candidate that I voted for. Then you had the former MAGA podcaster

Tim Dillon, who says the Trump regime is over. Trump is a lame duck. Bye-bye, Donald. Watch what MAGA or former MAGA podcaster Tim Dillon has to say. Here, play this clip right here. Let's look at Trump here. And I do think, unfortunately, this kind of is the end of. I say unfortunately not because I care, truly.

But I say unfortunately because it seems to not. be doing anything good for anyone. This is the end of the Trump administration. This is the beginning of the lame duck presidency. It's obvious to everyone, even his most ardent, ardent supporters show up to the White House. Like Laura Ingram, he's kind of shock on what the hell is going on. Now we'll start, you know, three years of talking about the ballroom. He will trail off.

He will get older. He's going to, he's adorned the White House in gold. Epstein is going to suck the oxygen out of a lot of this. We're going to talk about that a little later on. Apparently, by the way, the only thing I'm sure of about AI, I'm not an expert, is that AI, as soon as we have robots running around this country, they'll all be pedophiles too. There's no one in power that will apparently just not be a pedophile.

All these robots will be pedophile. 100% will do a pedophile robots. Our first robot president will be a pedophile. I know that. I know that's the only thing I know. our first AI robot president will absolutely be a pedophile. You've got MAGA influencer and MAGA podcaster, Christian Cooper, who voted for Donald Trump, explains why she is on a MAGA influencer unfollowing spree.

And she's basically saying, if you're still MAGA right now. And she said, I'm someone who voted for Trump. She says, she goes, if you're still on this MAGA bandwagon, there's something wrong with you. Watch what she has to say. play this clip. I just went on a MAGA influencer unfollow spree and let me tell you why. The mental gymnastics required to stand by your man under these conditions truly in my opinion is Olympic level. And I have followed some of these people for years, admired their ability to speak out when the opinion was unpopular. But now I'm starting to think, okay, they were countering the system

but not countering the system, which is the reason why many of us voted for this administration in the first place. Here's some of my problems with this administration. The Epstein list, okay? Referring to the Epstein list as the Epstein hoax, after running your entire campaign on that, is a slap in the face to all of us. Do you think we are stupid? You cannot gaslight me enough into forgetting that this admin said they were going to release the Epstein list. Pam Bondi said it was on her desk, okay? We are still sitting. billions of dollars overseas to fund foreign wars, denying America's interests, right? We've got some problems here in the mainland.

Approving PFA pesticides to be sprayed all over our fruit and vegetables. It's not limited to your fruit and vegetables. This is going into our soil. It's going to leak into our water supply. We are going to be drinking it. Forever chemicals are linked to hormone disruption, thyroid dysfunction, cancer, cancer. It's an atrocity. When we're talking about making America healthy again, PFA pesticides is crazy.

Debt normalization, 50-year mortgages, essentially saying your kids will never own anything ever. They will never own that little plot of land, the American dream. They're never going to own their own home. The fact that 90% of Black Friday purchases were made using a buy, now, pay later, like Klarna. That's also crazy. Surveillance expansion through Palantir. think China during COVID. Yeah, that sounds extreme, doesn't it?

That is how rapidly this administration is advancing AI. They're advancing it so quickly. They had to put out a statement to state government saying, if you try to like put regulations around AI, we're coming for you too. That is how much this federal government wants to advance AI and data centralization. So freaking scary.

And then you can't ask anything. about any of us. If you start asking questions, you were never really MAGA. You're not based, right? All this infighting is caused by Candace and Tucker. Y'all, please be so serious. Don't insult our intelligence like that, right? We might like Candace and Tucker, but they're not changing our opinions. They're just saying what a lot of us are thinking. Now, amongst that like MAGA, alpha, bro community, you have these people named like Clav and others. And they're just saying, we'll vote Gavin Newsom over J.D. Vance. And they have like their own bizarre language. Like Gavin Muggs J.D. Vance. And like Gavin, uh, is a chat. Is it a giga chad? And

J.D. Vance is like a beta. I don't know what these people are even saying. But here's a very popular streamer in this MAGA alpha circle named Clav. And here's what he has to say, That why he's voting for Gavin Newsom over J.D. Vance. Here, play this clip. Yeah, but I mean, like this next election cycle, who's going to win? It's going to be Gavin Newsom against J.D. Vance because J.D. Vance is subhuman and Gavin Newsomogs. Is J.D. Vance is subhuman?

Yeah. What makes you say that? He's got a very short total facial width to height ratio. He's obese, very recess side profile. whereas Newsom is like 6-3, Chad. So, J-D is very tall. J-D has got to be 6-2-6-3. Gavin Newsom obviously mocks into death.

Then you have all of these MAGA influencers turning against Ben Shapiro. Like here you have Andrew Shultz. Here's what he had to say about Shapiro. Play this clip. Wait a minute. Crazy. So is the Daily Wire an American media platform

or is it an Israeli media platform? I'm just asking. This guy's cooking. I'm just saying, get that, get that, get. I'm just, no, if the rule is, I'm just saying, if the rule is, you cannot be critical, because he has no problem being very critical of America. Yep. But you can't criticize Israel as a country.

That's just another country, unless you're saying, and you're clearly admitting that the daily wire is an arm of the Israeli propaganda machine for, is that? Are you manipulating the religious right in America? Are you manipulating the right-wing conservative? in America and selling them country western movies and putting on your little cowboy hat and a fake movie in Nashville so you two can take all their money and then in the process restricting free speech one of the core tenets of the American identity Ben Ben Ben Benjamin Ben what is happening here's what Steve Bannon had to say about Ben Shapiro play this clip

Shapiro is like a cancer and that cancer spreads saw cancer and it metastasizes. He tried to take over Breitbart and I ran him out of there. He tried to take over David Horowitz, who was his mentor. Don't ask me, ask the guys associated with David Horowitz, what he did there. He tried to take that over. And mark my word, he will make a move on turning point because he's always been envious of Charlie Kirk. here is what um uh what this is what let's take a listen to over there's Alex Jones here's what he has to say about Ben Shapiro play this clip in fact it needs me put to Ben Shapiro who is definitely in the pocket of Netanyahu I think he is a intelligence asset my opinion

how he operates Levin there's no I believe they are officially Israeli sports And I don't hate Israel in and of itself existing. I do hate people that act like they're Americans and act like they're loyal when everything they do flies on the face of that. And I believe from action and behavior that Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro are actual intelligence operatives card carrying with Israeli intelligence agencies. I know the cut of their... Now, here's what Ben Shapiro says about them. Here, play this. He calls them extremists.

Here play this clip. He knew that Nick Fuentes is an evil troll, and that building him up is an act of moral imbecility. And that is precisely what Tucker Carlson did. He built Nick Fuentes up. And he ought to take responsibility for that, just as he ought to take responsibility for glazing, pornographer,

and alleged sex trafficker Andrew Tate, or for mainstreaming fake historian and pseudo-Nazi apologist Daryl Cooper as America's best and most honest popular historian. Hosts are indeed responsible for the guests they choose and the questions they ask those guests. Fourth, because we have a duty to truth, we also have a duty to provide you with evidence of the claims that we make. Emotive accusations, conspiracy theories, and just gas. asking questions that's lazy and stupid and misleading none of them are a substitute for truth none of them are a substitute for evidence so when candace owen says i don't know no but i know that is retarded

and we are all more retarded for having heard it by the way ben shapiro's been losing like 30,000 followers over the past 30 days, and Ben Shapiro's basically like done in the MAGA community. Then you have Megan Kelly crashing out as she tells the MAGA influencers to go F themselves. This is Megan Kelly telling MAGA influencers to go F themselves. Here, play this clip right here. To the hateful people whom I used to call friends who have been all over the internet trying to shame me and say that no one should ever listen to this program again because I haven't spoken out on the Erica Candace conflict.

There's no, I don't have any pearls of wisdom other than go fuck yourselves. Go fuck yourselves. You have no fucking clue what's going on. You don't know what I do behind the scenes. And your world is so myopically online, you fail to understand there are real humans involved here and actually being able to touch grad. ass and have relationships with them, which is something I'm doing, could prove to actually benefit all involved.

Maybe it won't. Maybe it won't at all. But it's at least got a shot. I'm not sure your Twitter shame game has gotten anything of value done. Then you have Joe Rogan saying the following about Donald Trump's putting up these, like, ridiculous plaques on the White House. Here's what he says. Play this clip.

Did you see how, I think it was, I don't know, these days you don't know what's, it has to be confirmed not. But it looked like on the Kennedy Center, they started putting the name Trump on it. Yeah, he added his name to it. Yeah, it's crazy. And he took out the Kennedy Rose Garden. And you're like, what? Oh. Take it away.

Now it's like a cement fucking knotty. There's nothing nuttier than the plaques underneath the president's names. That's insane. That's insane. Shane and I were just reading them the other day. It's insane. How is this real? it doesn't feel real and you're just like how are you allowed to do that that's the thing i think how is he around to write that in the white house you can just probably as president

do what you want in the white house turns out you obviously can yeah because but nobody ever did it before those are going to get taken down no they'll be up forever i don't think so they're going to leave it like that forever no fucking yeah like a museum piece it's so crazy they should have like the trump wing this is what happened when he was president look at this fucking lunatic the auto pen photo of joe biden and and the actual trance What's written there. Crazy. Crazy.

This is widely considered the worst president of all. Like, what are you talking about it? It should be like a museum. Yeah. It should be the facts of his presidency, what happened during his term, you know, the Iraq war started and da-da-da-da. Yeah. It should be that.

Of course. That's it's it. Reagan like, Reagan liked Trump and Trump liked him too. Trump was a fan of Reagan. What? Why is that relevant? Reagan was a fan of Trump. What?

It's, yeah. Guys fucking crazy. Crazy. But you can't just let someone just fucking fully swim in it like that. I know. So he needs like a right-hand man. You go, sir, I think they just. Let me just, I understand the motive.

Then Rogan mocks Donald Trump for covering up the Epstein files. Let's play this clip right here. Let's play it. The Epstein files. I heard there's no files. I heard it's a hoax. And then all of a sudden, he's going to release the files. Well, I thought there was no files.

Man. He wants an investigation. now. Listen. Like, what is going on? They voted 427 to one. Who was the one? Whoa, who's the one? He read, I didn't see why he said, but he did. National security. No fucking

way you're going to be the one. If you found out, if you found out all of Congress voted for something and you're the only one that didn't, can you change your vote? You can't be the one, guy. It should be, it should be that it has to be like, no one can know what the vote is before you do it. Bro, I would love

to hear his reason. How are you the one? Well, you know, I was feeling like, let's move past it and let's get on with our business. And you can't move past these billionaires are good people. Okay. You can't move past. They're good, solid people. You know, and then because MAGA has, you know, really spread this, you know, this racism and this hate and they've anointed people like Nick Fuentes. It's now backfiring on them as even someone like Fuentes is like, the reason I'm voting for Gavin Newsom is that he's got a white.

family, and I'm not voting for J.D. Vance because J.D. Vance married an Indian woman. I mean, like, this is what's going on. I don't even want to play this clip. I'll just play a small portion of it because I want to give you insight into what's happening in the MAGA podcast world. Here, play this clip right here. So this is the image of Gavin Newsome, and we'll zoom in on it so you could get a better look. This is Gavin Newsom's family. okay now this is who the republicans want you to think is literally the devil okay this guy is Satan this guy is evil this guy is woke he is a left wing socialist Muslim he's a radical Muslim socialist like Barack Obama but you know right off the bat we could just make some

observations you know he's white he's tall He's handsome. His wife is also white. She's tall. She's good looking. His children, four of them, are beautiful, and they're all white with blue eyes and blonde hair. And they're in California.

Or maybe this is Hawaii? I don't know. But they're in a beautiful state. Our beautiful land. They're beautiful blood and our beautiful land in America. If only there is some way to combine those things, they're beautiful genetics, they're genes. Weren't Republicans just talking about that?

Beautiful genes. Look at these beautiful genes. Look at these beautiful genes on display. And look at our beautiful land. And look at the beautiful landscape, our beautiful soil, all for us. This beautiful virgin soil separated from the world by two, emotions that we control and those beautiful genes that conquered and tamed it. It's really a sight to behold. This is our enemy, they say.

Now here's the other image. This is our fearless leader. The entity known as J.D. Vance. The entity known as J.D. Hamill since the last operating system update is now J.D. Vance. This is his family. make some, let's make some observations here. And then finally, you have Joe Rogan saying that he doesn't think that Donald Trump has given any evidence that the election was stolen here, play this clip. The problem is when you asked Trump about it, like when I had him on the podcast, I'm like, you think, you think they stole the 2020 election. Like, tell me what, what's the evidence?

He didn't. Well, he, he might not have remembered. He might have. He might have. it just said, tell me what they did, and like had somebody work on it. And then they told him and then he starts talking about it, but he didn't really go in depth about it. I don't know, but he didn't have a satisfactory answer. No, he didn't. So that should give you some insight into what is going on in the MAGA podcast world. Let me know what you think and hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million here. Thanks for watching. Be sure to add the Midas Touch podcast on Apple podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast for new updates every single day.