The MeidasTouch Podcast - Marjorie Taylor Greene Betrays Trump When He Needed Her Most

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on the shocking move by Marjorie Taylor Greene to come out publicly against Donald Trump on ACA subsidies and on the release of files on Trump’s dark past and M...eiselas notes how MTG has escalated her fight with him as the shutdown continues to tank Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans. ! Start planning today. Get a free debt analysis right now at https://PDSDEBT.com/MEIDAS. It only takes thirty seconds! Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 For Donald Trump and Republican leaders, this is the ultimate betrayal. Marjorie Taylor Green turning against them on the issues of releasing the Epstein files and extending the Affordable Care Act subsidies during this government shutdown. Marjorie Taylor Green has escalated her feud with Donald Trump and the Republican Party. And she says, I don't work for you, Donald Trump. I don't work for you, Maga Mike Johnson. She goes, I work for the people of Georgia. And she says, while I don't like the Affordable Care Act, she says the premiums are too expensive, as is.
Starting point is 00:00:38 But she says, if we don't extend the Affordable Care Act subsidies, then people will lose their health care and they will die. I want to share with you what Marjorie Taylor Green says as her feud with Trump and the Republicans escalates. Now, Marjorie Taylor Green, she blames advisors of Donald Trump. And she says, I'm trying to give him the right information, but he's surrounding himself with people who literally put on a MAGA hat a year ago who are giving him bad advice. I believe she's very wrong there. I think this is who Donald Trump always is. You go back to his first term, and he promised that he would come up with a health care plan in two weeks, but he lied and lied and lied. And in my view, Donald Trump and all these MAGA Republicans want to push Americans off.
Starting point is 00:01:28 of their health care plans, they don't want the government involved at all in subsidizing or helping or lowering costs or doing anything when it comes to Medicare, Medicaid, or the Affordable Care Act because they want to take that money and they want to give it to the billionaires and they want to help billionaires get tax cuts while Donald Trump lies and claims that he's brought in $17 trillion so he can dangle in front of people, oh, I'm going to give you dividend checks and rebate checks like a Ponzi schemer and just lie and lie and lie and never actually deliver or say, oh, I'm going to come up with a plan. You just got to give me some time. Let me just show you what went down. We'll go over the evidence and receipts piece by piece. First, I want to
Starting point is 00:02:14 show you Marjorie Taylor Green. This was her interview with NBC. And she said, I got elected without Trump's endorsement. I don't work for him. She says, watch this here. Let's play it. I certainly support the president, but I'm not what would be the right way to say it. I'm not some sort of blind slave to the president, and I don't think anyone should be. I serve in Congress. We're a separate branch of the government, and I'm not elected by the president. I'm not elected by anyone that works in the White House. I'm elected by my district. That's who I work for. And I got elected without the president's endorsement. And, you know, I think that has served me really well.
Starting point is 00:03:00 So I get to be independent as a Republican. And I think what helps him the most is when he has people that are willing to be honest with him and not just tell him what they think he wants to hear. And what I would say right now is to the president, and I think he already knows it based on things I've heard him say, is we have a serious situation with health insurance in this country. And I would love to see him come up with a solution. I would love to see with everybody that works in this town come up with a solution.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And I would love to see Washington, D.C. and the government actually serve the American people for once. Then Marjorie Taylor Green goes on the very far right show on a network called Real America's Voices. And watch what she says here. Let's play this clip. And to allow Democrats to have some sort of moral. high ground on this issue because they're only one, the only ones talking about it, I think is a major failure from the Republican Party. And I'm not going to stand there and just keep talking the talking points when my own adult children can hardly afford health insurance premiums.
Starting point is 00:04:09 When everyone in my district, it's the number one issue that I hear about day in and day out, not just people on the ACA, but people that have private insurance as well. And I think it's something that we have to talk about. And I don't see why the government, needs to be shut down. I really don't. I believe that if Republicans learn to govern and weld power, they can use a nuclear option in the Senate. They can open up the government. We can get back to work for the American people, and Republicans can solve this problem that is a very big problem that we can't ignore. So then Marjorie Taylor Green goes on News Nation, where she's asked to respond to an earlier interview that was on the News Nation show by Maga Mike Johnson, who says that the
Starting point is 00:04:53 subsidies is one gigantic red herring. Extending the subsidies is not a pressing issue facing the country. And Marjorie Taylor Green's like, of course, extending the ACA subsidies is a real issue. It's not a red herring. We're truly in the upside down world. Watch Marjorie Taylor Green for yourself. Let's play it. With regard to the subsidies, remember, that is 100% a red herring. It's a distraction. This is what Chuck Schumer and the Democrats put together to try to make the issue of the day. He said the issue of the subsidies, that you can hear it. So he said the issue of the subsidies is a red herring.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And it's something essentially that Chuck Schumer and Democrats are talking about right now. Well, no, the issues of the subsidies are real. It's not something that anybody can say is made up. Also, people with regular or private plans, their premiums are looking to go up a medium of 18%. That's brutal. I know a lot of small business owners, like a family of four, and they're paying $2,000 a month, $2,000 a month with deductibles of $7,000 to $10,000, and approximately 40% of these people don't even use their health insurance. So they're just burning money just in case they might have cancer, just in case they have a terrible car accident. And then you've got single moms, many Americans that are really struggling that are on the ACA.
Starting point is 00:06:18 if you double their health insurance or even triple it, these people are going to, they're either going to have to drop it or they're going to be choosing between rent and their health insurance. This was part of her interview with CNN's Manu Raju. Watch what she says here. Let's play it. It is hurting so many people, Mano, seriously, so many people across the board, no matter how many, how they vote.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I'm literally calling it out and saying, let's take off our Democrat jerseys, let's take off our Republican jerseys, and we should do something responsible for the American people and fix this. This is where she then says that I think that Trump is getting very bad advice from people who he surrounds himself with. Let me show you this clip right here. You've been such a close ally of the president.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Are you worried about being on the opposite side of him on some of these issues? I've supported the president for the longest time. I was one of the only Republicans in Washington that did not turn my back on him after January 6th. I've traveled the country, spending millions of my own dollars supporting Donald Trump, helping him get elected. And I think I'm still supporting him now by saying Republicans in the House and Senate need to do their job and come up with a solution for the American people. And I'm supporting him with my policies. Being against a Ukraine war, he was saying he wanted to end that war from day one. Being against foreign wars, he's always said he's against foreign wars.
Starting point is 00:07:42 So a lot of my stances actually support the president a lot more than perhaps maybe some people on his own White House staff and a lot of these Republicans that just put their MAGA hats on literally a year ago. Yeah, I mean, I wonder, do you think that he's maybe straying from some of those MAGA principles that you're fighting for? I've never speak on behalf of the president, but I don't think he's always getting the best advice. From his staff. Possibly, yeah. Every journey has turning points. times to keep going, times to change course. But when debts pile up from credit cards, loans, and medical bills, it can hijack your future, keeping you stuck, making you feel like you've
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Starting point is 00:10:34 dropping democrats want to keep funding it and republicans have no new solution the issue marjorie taylor green is that republicans never had a solution or maybe they did their solution is let people die don't provide people with health care you see before the affordable care act there were 20 30 million Americans uninsured who didn't have health care and they would die. Also, the costs of health care were sky high as well. So before the Affordable Care Act, you had the same cost issue. Right now, there's an affordability issue in general out there. That's far worse than in 2010. Trump promised he would make things more affordable. Things have gone worse. And he's not even publishing Bureau of Labor Statistics, inflation and job and economic data.
Starting point is 00:11:26 anymore. But with those Affordable Care Act subsidies, it did at least keep the cost of health care at a level that wouldn't put people into medical bankruptcy. There were ceilings on how high the monthly premiums could be. And look, I think people didn't love the Affordable Care Act plans. It was better than what existed before. And that's indisputably. But Democrats came up with a plan. Now, I have a better plan, I think, to the affordable care. I'll tell you what my plan is. My plan is that there should be universal health care. My plan is that health care is a human right and that health care should be free and the government should pay for it. Well, where, Ben, is the government going to come up with that money? I believe that rich people should be taxed more.
Starting point is 00:12:17 At the first level, rich people, I believe, should be taxed fairly. And then I think, once we tax them fairly, because right now they're getting away with basically paying less taxes than people in much lower and much lower tax brackets by far. I mean, that people who are making far less money are paying more taxes than billionaires. But then I think billionaires should pay more money. And I think that should fund universal health care. You'll still be billionaires. You'll still have 10 private jets instead of 15 private jets. But you know, you're a billionaire. and I think that part of using and taking lots of the resources within the countries, you just pay a little more taxes.
Starting point is 00:13:00 That's it, just a little more. And I think we could fund universal health care on that basis. And I think there's other ways that we can fund it as well. I think if we stop spending a ton of money on some of these foreign wars and contributing to atrocities abroad, I think that that's a way that we can reduce some of our spending. And by the way, if Donald Trump came in, in with $17 trillion, then it would be very easy to fund it. But of course, he didn't really bring in $17 trillion. So there's universal health care as a model. There's the Affordable Care Act with
Starting point is 00:13:32 subsidies as a model. And then what's the other approach? So come up with something. I mean, Donald Trump claiming that he's going to reduce prescription drug prices by 1,600 percent. That's fraud. Numbers don't decrease by that amount. So that's not a plan. Donald Trump posting AI images of magical devices from outer space that he calls medbeds, which is part of a Q&N conspiracy that cures everybody diseases, that's not a solution. But I do recall that during Donald Trump's first administration, over and over again, he said that he would roll out a plan in two weeks,
Starting point is 00:14:10 and he never did. He never came up with a plan that's better. So the best plan we have is the Affordable Care Act. That's the best plan we have. And the subsidies keep the price low. Maybe we should do more subsidies. Rather than giving tax cuts to billionaires, I'd love to claw those tax cuts back and then put that money to subsidize it more and lower the costs more. But remember during Donald Trump's first administration, this is what he said.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Here, play this clip. We're signing a health care plan within two weeks, a full and complete health care plan. We're going to be introducing a tremendous health care plan sometime, probably prior to the end of the month. It's just about completed now. Over the next two weeks, I'll be pursuing a major executive. order requiring health insurance companies to cover all pre-existing conditions for all customers. You told Chris Wallace that this summer would come in three weeks. You promised an executive order pre-existing. I have it already. The president will be laying out some additional
Starting point is 00:15:05 health care steps in the coming, I would say, two weeks. Now, I also remind you that, you know, as Republicans go across the country and kind of mock people for getting Medicaid and health care. This is what Mike Flood, Maga Republican from Nebraska, here's how he was greeted when he talked about health care. And I think this very demeaning way, let's play this clip. It talks about two big changes to the Medicaid program. One of those changes is that if you are able to work and you are able-bodied, you have to work. If you choose not to work, You do not get free health care. You do not get free health care.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Okay, okay. So here's a question. So here's a question. Do you think that people who are 28 years old that can work and refuse to work should get free health care? I don't. think that the majority of nebraskans agree with you this is a breakdown we've done lots of breakdowns
Starting point is 00:16:22 here where i've showed like in maga mike's district someone who was paying 500 a month is not going to be paying 2500 a month without the subsidies for their monthly uh premiums for health insurance and that's not even talking about the deductible this was a cnn's version of like the breakdown that i did this is how they did it here play this clip imagine an older couple out there who's making 85 000 a year that's not a huge that's not you know billionaires or anything you're like that, but that's a higher earner in this case. Here's their current premium, $7,225 per year. That's 8.5% of their income. That's sort of the top end under the current rules. Under the change, if it expires, that will jump to $25,000 per year. That's almost a 30% increase. That is,
Starting point is 00:17:08 that's almost 30% of their income, not an increase, 30% of their income for the year. That's a tough thing if you're making $85,000 a year. And then finally, just here are regular Americans on the street. Here's what they have to say about it. Let's play it. Who's more responsible for the government shutdown? Democrats are Republicans. Republicans.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Republicans, definitely. Yeah. Republicans. Why is that? They have the power. Republicans. Why so? They control the House, the Senate, and the White House.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Who else would be responsible? I would assume the Republicans. Republicans. I think it's the Republican. One party is in control of all three. branches of government, and I don't think that there's really any reasonable way to spin this is the Democrats' fault. I will say Republicans are good for one thing themselves. I mean, with everything that's going on and everything that Trump does, I think we can clearly see why.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Well, there you have a folks. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to six million subscribers. But, you know, I think that there's, I look, I don't, I think that there's a lot of issues with Marjorie Taylor Green, overwhelming issues with her. But on this issue, on health care, what she's saying is not something that I totally disagree with. I think it's, and this is why it's pissing off Trump and MAGA. But this isn't a Trump or MAGA issue. The same way, Epstein, why is, other than Trump covering up his own dark past, why are you making it about you? Shouldn't it be made about the survivors and these horrible rich men who, who engaged in a pedo sex trafficking, why are you making it so personal unless you're actually
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