The MeidasTouch Podcast - MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 11/21/25

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Starting point is 00:00:25 We'd love to talk, business. Where to begin? Do we start with Donald Trump threatening a group of Democrats that they will be hanged for treason as a result of them making a video telling the military to not follow unlawful orders, which is just a restatement of the law? Do we start with the White House through its chief propagandist Caroline Levitt saying that the voters, elected Donald Trump precisely because he calls female reporters piggy. Do we start with the United States military removing from their list of hate symbols, swastika's, nooses, and the Confederate flag? Do we start with the fact that unemployment ticked up to 4.4% and the Trump regime was spiking the football as though this were a good thing? and we know what a disaster, October was for a job, so we're heading to 5%, or do we start with Donald Trump's special envoy to Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, who was one of those people who promised

Starting point is 00:01:39 that the war with Ukraine would end in 24 hours and peace would be brought in 24 hours, but he's now leaving, either been forced to quit or has resigned. At the same time, the United States refused to show up at a conference in Istanbul between the leader of Turkey, Erdogan, the leader of Ukraine Zelensky, and the U.S. was supposed to be there, but the U.S. was going to ambush Zelensky with a demand for a surrender, essentially, to Russia, a 28-point plan of surrender. Or do we start with Donald Trump tanking in the latest Fox poll, as we've seen with other polls? And even amongst white voters, Donald Trump now has a 50% disapproval, only 46 percent approve. We could start with any of these topics, but why don't I call in my brothers,

Starting point is 00:02:33 Brett and Jordy, and they could tell me where I start. This could be a choose your own fascist adventure story here brought to you by the Midas Dutch podcast. I don't know, man. All these stories are so crazy. First, I mean, I got to say what's up to everybody. Hey, Midas Mighty, what's up brothers? How you doing? Another crazy day in Trump's America. You could tell these Epstein files now that they are signed. They are really getting to them. You know, the DOJ and Trump are working on all those schemes to hide all the pertinent files to Donald Trump. And you see him increasingly backed into a corner as the economy tanks, as things get worse for him. You see his Department of Justice completely falling apart. And so what does Donald Trump do? As Ben calls it, the rule of holes.

Starting point is 00:03:16 He keeps on digging and keeps on digging. And he makes his problems even worse. So we're going to get into it all. I know we have a lot to discuss, Ben. That was quite the outline. Let me pass it over to Jordy. Jordy, what's the latest? What's up, brothers? What's up, Midas, Mighty, excited for today's show. Benji, that was like a really concise mashup of just crazy things that are happening. I mean, every time you do this intro,

Starting point is 00:03:37 it just sounds like a game of Madlibs that we're playing with everyone. I don't know where to start, honestly. Benji, I toss it to you. Where do you want to begin today's show? Well, you see, that was just the prolog. Because then we could get into Lindsey Halligan, Donald Trump's handpicked top prosecutor who now runs the Eastern District of Virginia Federal

Starting point is 00:04:00 Prosecutorial Office, who was smoked out by a federal judge during a hearing by James Comey and his lawyers to dismiss the criminal indictment on the basis of vindictive prosecution. And it turned out exactly what we predicted happened, which I said, I got to be careful in saying this because this is clearly uncharted territory, which is what the magistrate judge said, which is, did she never present the actual operative indictment to the grand jury? And she and the other prosecutors on her team said she only had the four person and another grand jury take a look at the operative indictment. After the first indictment, she tried to present to them, got rejected. So we can talk about that or we could talk about

Starting point is 00:04:49 the now today. The DOJ filed something I've never even heard of. before called a notice of correction where they said, oopsies, what we said to you yesterday during the hearing when we admitted that the grand jury never saw the operative indictment, we were wrong. They actually did see it. So sorry, we just messed up yesterday. We meant to say they did. I'm like, that's kind of like, no offense to our Midas Maple out there, to our Toronto Blue Jays fans. It's kind of like the Toronto Blue Jays after the World Series.

Starting point is 00:05:23 is over. I know it's a tough one saying, you know what, let's let's go back and redo the game. Sorry, the game's already over. It's no such thing as a notice. Notice of correction. We just said the exact opposite of what we're saying right now. We could talk about the United States saying that they purportedly accidentally invaded Mexico. And they thought that the area of Mexico by the Gulf of Mexico, which they now label Gulf of America, was America. And it was Mexico and so they invaded it and started putting signs in it saying this is the this is the craziest story I mean this is shows you this is like chaos meets incompetence this is the entire Trump administration packaged into one ridiculous story just scary stuff by the orders of the

Starting point is 00:06:09 commander it's like what is this friggin star wars by the orders of Darth Vader we hereby declare this territory to now belong to the United States and it like it's Mexico territory by the Gulf of Mexico area and the U.S. just like invaded it. Like they sent these like private contractors and others and they believed it to be territory of the United States of America. They are claiming and this has created a massive international incident. Or we can start by talking about Donald Trump signing the release of the Epstein Files bill after being forced to do so. But now it goes to the DOJ and Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and Todd Blanche and that crew where we saw a press conference yesterday with Pam Bondi and they were asked.

Starting point is 00:07:00 So can you tell us blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she would go, because there's an ongoing investigation in the SD&Y, I can't answer that question. So there were a number of questions from the press asking about things that are in the files. Can you comment? And Bondi's responses based on the active investigation, I can't. respond. So that should just give you a preview of where they're going, of what she's going to testify to, what Patel's going to say, what Blanche is going to say when they get called

Starting point is 00:07:28 before the House and the Senate. Or we could go to Chapter 3, where we could talk about Lindsey Graham objecting to a unanimous consent motion put on the floor in the Senate by Democratic Senator from New Mexico, Senator Heinrich, requesting that the Senate repeal the 500,000 per incident gift that they gave themselves at the taxpayer dime that the Republicans ginned up a phony cause of action, that if their phone number showed up in connection with Jack Smith subpoenas relating to the January 6th insurrection, not eavesdropping, not wiretapping, if their phone number the digits showed up every time it shows up they get half a million dollars and then they revoked in their law that they passed for the continuing resolution to reopen the government any defense

Starting point is 00:08:25 that the doj and taxpayers could assert so it just becomes a direct payment to these republican senators who are making calls relating to the insurrection and that's what they say they suffered emotional distress. And Lindsey Graham stands up, objects, and kills the unanimous consent to keep the freaking money. And we can talk about how Americans are being psychologically tortured right now, living paycheck to paycheck, while Donald Trump is out there giving these gifts to the senators and partying with the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, rolling out the Putin red carpet, right? That's who Donald Trump loves Putin. and the crown prince.

Starting point is 00:09:10 And Donald Trump looking like he's seen his crush for the first time, there's no other way to describe how giddy and turned on Donald Trump seemed to be in front of MBS. It was weird, it was creepy, he was doing weird, like things. Like, let me hold your hand, let me hold your hand. It was like very, very strange behavior. But why don't I start off by showing us

Starting point is 00:09:34 when Caroline Levitt, the Trump chief propagandist, is asked by a reporter. Good question. What did the president mean when he called this female reporter Piggy? Here, play this clip. Natalie. Thank you, Caroline.

Starting point is 00:09:48 What did the president mean when he called reporter Piggy? Look, the president is very frank and honest with everyone in this room. You've all seen it yourself. You've all experienced it yourselves. And I think it's one of the many reasons that the American people reelected this president

Starting point is 00:10:04 because of his frankness. And he calls out fake news when he says, sees it. He gets frustrated with reporters when you lie about him, when you spread fake news about him and his administration. But he also is the most transparent president in history. And he gives all of you in this room, as you all know, unprecedented access. You are in the Oval Office almost every day asking the president questions. And so I think. So you all voted for this guy. Not you all watching this. He voted for him because you wanted him to call the press Piggy. And isn't it just an honor that he invites you to these press conferences where he

Starting point is 00:10:43 looks at a female reporter and calls her Piggy? Also during that press conference, Caroline Levitt said, you know what? We discovered a great thing during the government shutdown. We found out that we don't need the Department of Education anymore. Here, let's play this clip. The Democrats' reckless 43-day government shutdown did manage to do one valuable thing. It proved that America does not need a federal Department of Education. During the longest shutdown in history, the Department of Education furloughed 90% of its staff, and America's education system was not impacted whatsoever. Schools stayed fully open across the country. Students attended class and received normal in-person instruction, and our wonderful

Starting point is 00:11:32 teachers received their paychecks on... Because schools are not... run by the federal government, you morons. They're run at a state and local level. The Department of Education supplements things like meals for people's lunch, services for disabled students, enforcing equality and inclusiveness and anti-discrimination in schools. The Department of Education deals with student loans. It's supposed to help further fund and maybe supplement the gaps at at a local level. But what you've learned is that you need to destroy the Department of Education.

Starting point is 00:12:11 And doesn't it seem like every week? They just talk about doing something to destroy the future of kids and marginalized communities. Of course, they seem to hate kids, though. It's like, we're going to do this to kids and that to kids while the regime covers up a child sex trafficking ring. So you kind of see what's going on here? Then Caroline Leavitt was asked about the Coast Guard,

Starting point is 00:12:35 no longer class of force. swastikas and nooses and the Confederate flag as hate symbols. And this was announced by the Coast Guard. There's a memo that states that. But there I think it's going to be labeled potentially divisive symbols, but not hate symbols. In other words, if people in the military use them, there would be no penalty for it at all.

Starting point is 00:13:00 It wouldn't be viewed as insubordination. I'm just thinking to myself, myself, is this what they're sitting around at the Trump regime and thinking about right now? And the answer is yes, while American people can't afford things, while Americans look to Thanksgiving with angst, the Trump regime sitting around and someone saying at a table, I've got a great idea. What's your great idea? Let's do. Let's bring swastikas back to the military. Oh, how about we do nooses? Okay, yes. Let's bring this up. Okay, let's make this like, who in the world? But then you realize the type of people who the Trump regime's promoting, they're the type of people who have like Adolf Hitler posters in their offices, right?

Starting point is 00:13:42 I mean, these are people out there who are saying white, nationalistic things on social media. But Caroline Leavitt was asked about it by a member of the press and watch her ignore the question. Here, play this clip. Yes. The Washington Post just reported that the Coast Guard has... I'm calling on Bloomberg. Go ahead. Caroline, thank you.

Starting point is 00:14:00 Thank you. Two questions for you. The New York Times is... I'm calling on Bloomberg, who Donald Trump called the other reporter at Bloomberg, piggy. Let's pause there, and Brett and Jordy let you respond to all that. And by the way, I wish the other reporter would then ask the same question. It's an important question, and it's one of these things that just shows you, like you said, what their priorities are.

Starting point is 00:14:21 I don't know how Caroline Levitt gets up there every single day wearing that cross, and it doesn't just burn through her chest. I mean, like, she is honestly one of the most detestable people in this entire administration. hate the people who do Trump's bidding people who should know better, but just repeat all of this crap. I mean, she's 28 years old. She should damn well know better. She has a long life ahead of her. And this is how she wants to spend her time on this planet, defending this monstrosity, defending swastikas and all this stuff. I mean, I just don't understand how so many people don't see it and how there are so many people who are so afraid to speak out against it. You know, I think one of

Starting point is 00:14:59 the things that also relating to that story is that, you know, I've noticed in recent years also the ADL just totally abdicate all of their responsibilities to fight back against anti-Semitism because I remember that guy who runs the organizations, that guy Jonathan Greenblatt, and I remember he was threatened by Elon Musk a couple years ago when he started speaking out against the anti-Semitism that was on X on Twitter. And Elon Musk basically threatened to sue him. They got in all these public spats. And then there was kind of one turning point where, like, they spoke. They had some sort of private meeting or something as Elon was threatening him. And the guy completely in forever changed. And now he just has, turns a

Starting point is 00:15:37 total blind eye to all the horrific anti-Semitism that we're seeing come from the right, that we're seeing from MAGA. It's being thrown in our face every single day. And then he tries to, uh, only focus on the left. And I'm, there is anti-Semitism on both sides. I mean, I'm not going to acknowledge that. Absolutely. But then they highlight all this other stuff. They try to, they try to equate other things with anti-Semitism, and they try to, you know, they go after Mamdani, that he has the Mamdani monitor and all this various stuff, while he totally ignores the things that Donald Trump is doing in order to stoke all these horrific things from our dark past. And it's just really like disgusting to me to watch this from the White House, people with just

Starting point is 00:16:17 such a lack of respect and people who want to promote hate every step of the way. And there are so many issues that we should be focused on right now as a nation. There are a lot of people going through hardship. And as you said, Ben, these are people who are focused on really like just trying to demean and punch down at every marginalized group at anybody who isn't like a white Christian male. It's just like the most horrific way of governing, like only governing for a very select few people and not be a president for the actual country at large. But that's what we see with this Trump administration. And like it's just, it's just every step of the way they've surrounded themselves with all of these lunatics. No, it's such an excellent point.

Starting point is 00:16:56 And if I can here, I just want to respond to the Piggy clip. If you haven't seen it yet, Brett, I think we have that clip. Can we actually play the clip of Donald Trump calling the reporter Piggy? And I just want people to like, look at his eyes when he says it. Like, just look how aggressive he's being. Just watch it. I'll comment when we come back. Yeah, Jennifer.

Starting point is 00:17:14 Go ahead, go ahead. Yes, sir. Quiet. Quiet. I mean, it's really, really gross and just bizarre. and disgusting behavior, especially from the President of the United States. I mean, I never could have dreamed of calling anybody who I had a disagreement with Picky, let alone a woman and a reporter.

Starting point is 00:17:38 It's so beneath the office and just so disgusting. In fact, when I saw the clip play originally, I actually thought he said Peggy. I thought there were, because you can't see who's asking the question. I'm like, there's no way he called that female reporter Piggy and pointed his face and lunged at her face with this. It's so, like, utterly bizarre. The way he lunged at her, right, Jay? Yeah, the way he lunges and points the finger. If he's willing to do that while he knows cameras are around, just think about how he talks about people, how he talks about women behind closed doors. I mean, it's really repulsive stuff. So now that we play that clip, and sorry to go

Starting point is 00:18:12 back here, but can we play the clip, again, of Caroline Levitt being asked about that, Brett? Because I think that's important to see the sort of the next steps there. What did the president mean when he called reporter Piggy? Look, the president is very frank and honest with everyone in this room. You've all seen it yourself. You've all experienced it yourselves. And I think it's one of the many reasons that the American people reelected this president. Like I don't even understand what she's saying.

Starting point is 00:18:39 What is Caroline Levitt saying there that? That's just Trump being honest and transparent. It's why everyone loves Trump. In fact, you should be thankful that he speaks to you with that way, press, right? That's why I don't understand this whole argument that like, you know, the Trumpers and and the press like to make where they're like Trump is so transparent. Look, he's speaking to the press every day. Look, look, he's out there.

Starting point is 00:18:59 He's got them all. All he does is he gets there. He bloviates and he lies like that. I'd almost rather somebody not speak to the press than speak to the press and spew such hatred and garbage every single day. I don't think it helps the American people. And that's your point, Brett. That's your point is also, then why doesn't the press have each other's backs, right?

Starting point is 00:19:15 Because if this could happen to one reporter, it sure as hell can happen to you as another reporter. So I'd love to see some sort of at least mutual respect for the press core there with each other because it's so it's just really sad to see that these folks, and Carolyn Levin actually even says it in the second half of her response there about the piggy question was the unbridled access that you get to the president, right? But all you have to do is sort of play by his rules is essentially what she goes on to say there. And so what if I don't, if I actually want real answers and I don't just want the the Trump regime propaganda. I can't ask legitimate questions anymore. And so to the press corps there, it's like, again, I want a strong fourth

Starting point is 00:19:58 the state. I think that's vital to a successful democracy to the United States of America. But you guys have to do your part. You guys have to have each other's backs there because that's just simply pathetic and beneath the office. Unbelievable, Ben. You all know, you've all been around him. That's what he does. That's Trump being Trump. He calls you a piggy, yells at you. That's what he does to everybody. And it's like, what? No, this is the presidency. This is not okay. We should not normalize that behavior from any human being at any position or relationship to us. It's dehumanizing, yet alone to have the president of the United States say that I think about raising my little daughter right now. It's 14 months in a world where the president of the

Starting point is 00:20:44 United States is calling female reporters piggy or in a world where Donald you know what it reminds me of though if I could just say quickly it's it's abuse it's an abuse it's what an abuser does and what an abuser and it's an and their enablers do and it's stuff you see often in like these these cults when people try to escape cults what do they do they attack you like the way Donald Trump's attacking Marjorie Taylor green now and attacks all these figures and six all these death threats on the Indiana lawmakers who don't want to vote for the redistricting because the redistricting schemes have completely backfired for the Republicans, if somebody even disagrees a little bit with the cult. I mean, you see this in things like Scientology and whatnot. What do they do? They will do

Starting point is 00:21:25 everything to make your life hell. And MAGA and this Trump world works the same exact way. And what we're seeing here are two ends of an abuser, right? We're seeing the abuser themselves, who's in this case is Donald Trump, inflicting the abuse on people, on the American people, on that reporter every single day. And then you see the friend who's the gaslight. who tells you, oh, no, he's being nice to you. You should enjoy his company. Everything's great, actually. Or how could you possibly ask that question?

Starting point is 00:21:53 You have it good. You guys actually have it good. And so you're actually getting it from both ends there, and it makes it extra gross. But anybody who has ever studied abuse, who has seen abuse, knows that this is the exact pattern that abuse follows. And you see that in cults a lot where there's abuse or abuse of women, right, that they will have someone like a Caroline Levitt. act like this is normal just what this is what this is what it's like to be a woman or this is what

Starting point is 00:22:20 it's like to be in the group like this is how we bond like this is what we go through together right right and no wrong wrong and it's also wrong this morning Donald Trump's an understatement calling for six democratic lawmakers who urge the military not to follow any illegal orders he called for them to be arrested and to be hung. And he says that George Washington would have hung them. And he says that they're terrorists. Hang them. George Washington would.

Starting point is 00:22:56 Traders, domestic terrorist Democrats. They should be charged with sedition. Donald Trump reposts those statements. Seditious behavior at the highest level. To be very clear, if this were an instruction not to follow, Lawful orders, that would simply be insubordination, not insurrection or sedition. Saying don't follow unlawful orders is just a restatement of the law. It is unlawful to follow unlawful orders.

Starting point is 00:23:33 If you follow an unlawful order and you are involved in a war crime at any level of the chain of command, you are a war criminal who will need to sit one day before war criminal tribunals, right? This was established in Nuremberg and even before that, though, and it was not a defense for a person in any level of the chain of command in Nazi Germany to say, I was just following the order, and that's why I did it. Any person, including the person who flies the drone, who was just taking the order and shoots and kills those people in the fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela and Colombia or in the Pacific, even as I just was told to fly the drone and do it or the fighter pilot who does it, they are war criminals, even though they were ordered to do it.

Starting point is 00:24:29 And everybody in the chain of command up to Pete Hegesith, and it should be the commander-in-chief Donald Trump at an international war crimes level. Trump doesn't have absolute immunity. But in the United States, our Supreme Court gave Trump absolute immunity. And these were some of the examples that were actually given by people who said, you shouldn't give him absolute immunity. What if he does things like this? And the right-wing Supreme Court was like, oh, that's not what we're worried about. They're never going to do things like this.

Starting point is 00:24:57 We believe the president will exercise good and sound judgment. We're worried about the president having his exercise of his powers chilled by not having absolute immunity. So you see where that brought us in that Supreme Court ruling. Going back, though, to Caroline Levitt, she was asked. So don't you think you're stoking violence against Democrats when Donald Trump's out there saying to hang them and kill them and treat them as traitor?

Starting point is 00:25:27 Seems pretty direct, Caroline. Here, play this clip. I just follow up. The president and the vice president, for that matter, have accused the other side of encouraging political violence. Isn't that exactly what the president is doing when he says that members of Congress should be killed? Why aren't you talking about what these members of Congress are doing to encourage it in sight violence? They are literally saying to 1.3 million active duty service members not to defy the chain of command, not to follow lawful orders.

Starting point is 00:25:57 Every single... Actually, they said if you can refuse an illegal order, which is... But they are suggesting... They're suggesting Nancy that the president has given illegal orders, which he has not. every single order that is given to this United States military by this commander-in-chief and through this chain of command. Well, it's not that they're suggesting it. Actually, the lead lawyer of the Southern Command, which is this region where a lot of the war

Starting point is 00:26:22 crimes are taking place. So the lead number one military lawyer says that these strikes constitute extra judicial killings and constitute war crimes. So why didn't that legal opinion prevail? Because the Department of Justice, Pambandi, overruled it. And the DOJ said, nope, we think it's perfectly fine. Ignore what the military lawyer says. Now, you may say, hey, Ben, that sounds pretty unprecedented.

Starting point is 00:26:57 The DOJ is overruling the military lawyer? Has that happened before? Nope. The same way it never happened before, ever in any context, where a federal prosecutor gets an indictment of anybody but doesn't show the thing to the grand jury and then admits to such and then files a notice of correction and said, nope, I actually meant I did show it to them. We're seeing firsts of the worst kind of malice and incompetence combined. in this disastrous regime. No wonder Trump's approval is the lowest of any president in American history at this time. We're going to take our first quick break of the show. We've got a lot to discuss when we come back.

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Starting point is 00:33:49 I like that. Yeah. You know, the reality is sometimes I just don't know where to start. And so, so. Go through all the chapters. It's like, when you open a book, you want to look through the chapters first. I'll try to get instruction about where I start. So I fill a buster for about eight minutes.

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Starting point is 00:34:45 The state visit to the White House, a time-honored tradition. The United States, the leader, the White House, the president, meeting with America's closest friends and allies. It is a statement of unity. It is a statement to the world. Who does the United States consider its closest friends? Well, we see how Donald Trump

Starting point is 00:35:11 has treated people in the past like Zelensky, Prime Minister Carney, Anthony Albanese, and others, not state visits. They don't get the airplanes flying over or the horses marching. You'll usually get Donald Trump berating you or saying that he wants to take you over, conquer your country, or perhaps attack one of your top ministers. But when it comes to the leader of Syria, When it comes to the leader of Saudi Arabia, MBS, the Crown Prince, Donald Trump just wants to smell you. He wants to take that cologne and spray it all over you and sniff you. It's how excited he gets.

Starting point is 00:35:57 Now, maybe saying, Ben, what the hell are you talking about? Well, when Donald Trump rolls out the red carpet for authoritarian and for people who he likes and his staff, he loves smelling them. them. And he has Trump Cologne and he has perfume. And so you walk into that golden bordello that has become the Oval Office, which looks disgusting, literally looks like it reeks and it looks gross. Any future president on day one, it will be so cathartic when that stuff is taken down. It's part of what I think about in the future as I'm doing my wussas, wusa. But don't

Starting point is 00:36:39 take it from me. You know, Ben, I know you say these things. You don't like Trump. You're this, you're that. So you just stop me. Don't make it up. Like, like just come on. Well, why don't you listen to Trump's chief propagandist, Caroline Levitt? This is what she said about what Trump did to the leader of Syria, who used to be the leader of Al-Qaeda. He beheaded people. He held the heads up. He was wanted by our FBI and intelligence agencies, $10 million bounties on this guy's head because he was the leader of al-Qaeda. He was invited it to the Oval Office, and Trump started spraying him with Cologne and sniffing him.

Starting point is 00:37:14 But Caroline Leibbitt wants everybody to know that that's what Trump does to everybody and like to people that he likes, and staff and world leaders. He just goes and sprays you and sniffs you. The president went, the Syrian president came in, and President Trump sprayed perfume all over him. And I just wondered, like, did he smell? No.

Starting point is 00:37:37 Let me tell you. That happens all the time, not just in the Syrian president, but I've seen it with other foreign leaders. I've seen it with members of our cabinet, myself. He has the cologne and a perfume. Yes, he's just showing off his wonderful sense. He's very generous. I'll just leave it on.

Starting point is 00:37:58 Whatever I say here, just I think the thing speaks for itself. When you're a star, they let you do it, it seems. This is her answer, basically. Let's just leave it at that. But Caroline, what about the release of the Epstein files? What do you think about that? Let's play the clip. But if you look at how this Epstein story sort of evolved over the past week, it's classic Washington hosts.

Starting point is 00:38:21 Okay. You want to see what normal, though, is? Let me show you the deputy prime minister of Sweden with her delegation that went to Canada. And I want to show you what normalcy, intelligence, grace. humility looks like as the rest of the world sees, why would we go to the United States and be sniffed by this guy and attacked? Or it seems that he's friends with like the leader of Syria and he likes Putin and MBS in Saudi Arabia. Like, we're not their friends anymore. Just think about that. We went from Biden who helped bring Sweden into NATO, right? To them saying, uh, and most countries

Starting point is 00:39:06 looking at the U.S. like, oh, they're the bad guys. They're the bad guys now. We're the bad guys now. We're North Korea. We're the bad guys. What a horrible revelation. And you want to see what the good guys look like? Here's the deputy prime minister of Sweden and her visit with the royal family there to Canada. Let's play. Well, we brought in the heavy artillery. We brought in the king and queen of Sweden. It doesn't get any better than that. But I would say that we, I mean, everyone knows these are truly turbulent and quite tough and challenging times. And in those times, you need to choose your friends wisely. And Sweden is choosing Canada.

Starting point is 00:39:47 And I think rightly so. And we're also seeing a very strategic work from Canada, and not least from Prime Minister Carney himself in choosing his friends globally now very, very strategically. And I think Sweden is a great partner to Canada. Wow, wow, well. Or it makes sense, though, doesn't it? Because what defines the Trump administration? Like, I would say, if anything, like corruption, like this is the most corrupt administration

Starting point is 00:40:11 we have ever seen in our entire lives, corruption and competence. So it's no surprise that Donald Trump is attracting other corrupt nations and other people who engage in this sort of excess wealth and corruption and are willing to buy favors with their money and do all of that sort of corrupt stuff and is pushing away the countries that are actually trying to run by ethical procedures. And so we push away the canadas. We push away Sweden, we push away the UK while we embrace Saudi Arabia, while we embrace Russia, you know, Turkey, all of these countries. It's like it's very obvious because Trump views himself in like one of those leaders of those countries.

Starting point is 00:40:50 And those countries have smaller GDPs than the good guys, you know, the good guy. Like, you know, the Canada's, the, you know, the UKs, the France, the Europeans. countries. You look around, they have higher GDPs. They're more successful. They give health care to all of their people, right? Versus the people who Trump looks up to, like the Qataris, the whole GDP is $166 billion. Saudi, the whole GDP is like $1 trillion. And yes, they have a sovereign wealth fund for a trillion dollars. But, you know, it's not exactly, you know, it's not, it's not Canada, you know, but Trump will look at Canada as weak and the Saudis is strong. But while this visit from Saudi Arabia is happening, the Trump organization is getting

Starting point is 00:41:40 involved and has been involved in all of these deals, billion-dollar deals with the Saudis, billion-dollar deals with the Qataris and the Emirates. And they're doing it in plain view. The Trump organization's posting new Trump hotel coming to the Maldives. We're doing it with Dar, D-A-R, which is one of the subsidiaries of the PIF, the private investment fund, which is the Saudi sovereign wealth fund, because here's the thing, Trump can't run things on his own. Not sure if anyone's been paying attention to it, but Trump media, remember that SPAC, the special purpose acquisition company, do you all know what it's trading at right now? It's trading at about 10 bucks.

Starting point is 00:42:22 Do you know what a SPAC starts at when it's just announced that it exists? 10 bucks. So technically right now it's at $10.29. Over the past year, it's lost around 70% of its value. And you may be saying the past year where Donald Trump won the election and was inaugurated, his own media company has lost 70% of its value this year alone. Yeah, because he bankrupts and destroys everything. Look at his casinos.

Starting point is 00:43:01 Look at this company, that company. If you can't run the media company with, because it's a publicly traded company, right? So you can't do some of the deals that the Trump organization does, right, with the Saudis and the naming rights and some of that stuff. If you can't run this public organization the right way, Trump media, how the hell are you running the United States actually like that, right? That chart looks like the way. our jobless claims look, looks like our unemployment numbers. 4.4% unemployment. Also looks at Donald Trump's poll numbers

Starting point is 00:43:44 where he's plunging in the Fox poll, 38% in the box of Reuters, or 59% disapproval, the Morris poll, this poll, that poll, he's in the 30s basically in every single poll right now. This is who he is. And one of the things that I've always been trying to emphasize, and I guess better late than never, although this lateness of it freaking sucks that people

Starting point is 00:44:09 didn't realize this before. This guy's a con artist. He's a fraud. He's quite literally a criminal. I mean, he's a felon. He lies and he destroys people's lives. And this is what he does. He's a rug puller.

Starting point is 00:44:22 He tells you this. And this is what he's doing with the $23 trillion. Ah, just right around the corner, you're going to get rich. I'm going to give you dividend checks. And then give me this, going to give me that, going to give you that, going to give you that. It's all good. I'm going to make you so well. I love you. I love you. I'm going to make you so wealthy. I hate you. I hate you. I love you. I love you. You know, it is, it is demented and it is manipulative and it is abusive. And that's his skill set. But he is a horrible builder. He is a destroyer of the biggest kind. And he's destroying the United States right now. You want to see what he was doing when he hosted the leader of Saudi Arabia? I mean, he's given this speech at this conference at

Starting point is 00:45:03 the Kennedy Center. And it's just demented. I mean, this is what he's talking about when it comes to eggs. Here, play this clip. They started screaming at me, eggs, eggs. And this is what he says about affordability. Here, play this clip. We're also making incredible strides to make America affordable again. That's a new word that they're using. Affordability, they talk. It's a new word that there, no, the word affordability has been there all along. And you promised that you would make things affordable on day one. And you lied. And now, when everybody knows you're lying, you're claiming that everything is more affordable. You're saying that Thanksgiving's never been cheaper and that people are in a golden age and people are like, no, we're not at all. Let me show you

Starting point is 00:45:55 what J.D. Vance said. He was asked, what do we do to address health care? What do we do? to address health care, JD. Do you want to talk about this? Here, play this clip. What do we do to address health care prices and premium prices and so on and so forth? What does that look like? Is it a reconciliation plan? Walk us through what happens? So what's so crazy about this, Matt, is right before the government shut down, we had a meeting with Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer in the Oval Office. Is this where they get, President Trump gave him a MAGA hats? Yeah. This is, no, not just that. But the president whispers to one of his personal assistants. They're all very good people.

Starting point is 00:46:33 And she kind of runs off. And I think to myself immediately, oh, what the hell have I got myself into? And she comes back with two Trump 2028 hats to give to Jeffries. Okay. These are serious issues. People are worried that they're, you know, the way he goes. I mean, the biggest freaking phonies, you know, in the world, freaking phony people. People are worried that they're about to lose their health care.

Starting point is 00:47:01 They're losing their health care. Their Medicaid's being taken away. The rural hospitals are being shut down. People can't afford food. And just think about this demented scene in the Oval Office. You've got this fake gold motif everywhere. It looks, as I called it, a golden bordello. You've got Trump in there yelling at female reporters and calling them piggy,

Starting point is 00:47:23 while at the same time spraying cologne and perfume on authoritarian's and his staff and sniffing them and his staff is like oh we love that that's just that's just trump being trump while he is giving away maga 2028 hats while building a golden ballroom while doing great gatsby parties with half-naked women in martini glasses and where the slogan is a little party never killed nobody building triumphal arches to himself and then he has the audacity to send out a message to his supporters who he's scamming, saying on this Thanksgiving, I need your money. I need you more than ever on this Thanksgiving.

Starting point is 00:48:14 So please, I can't do this without you. Please chip in $25. What are you running for? What are you talking about? And this is the art of a con artist. This is the art of a felon. This is the conduct of a sexual abuser. This is Trump and what the Republican Party has become.

Starting point is 00:48:39 No wonder these generic polls have Democrats up, what, like 14 now, 14 points in generic congressional polling. You've got Democrats putting money into a congressional race. Afton Bain, the Democrat running against that guy. by Van Epps, the MAGA Republican, in a plus 22 Trump district? Think about it. Think about it. Brett, Jordy, I want to take our last quick break of the show. When I come back, I'm going to let you speak because the audience is going to get mad at me for not letting you speak.

Starting point is 00:49:19 I also, and I love to you. Let me just say this quickly while we're on this topic. What J.D. Vance did in that moment encapsulates the entire MAGA strategy of how they take advantage of their own followers, and it's what they do with every topic. They deflect the issue, as been said, that is seriously harming people's lives. You know, people are going to lose their health care. It's a very bad thing. What's your plan? Instead of answering that question, tell you how I'm going to help, let me show you this funny way that I owned the lips. Let me try to get you laughing. Let me try to point at our mutual enemy and say, look, I owned that person,

Starting point is 00:49:55 remember and then hope that you forget about actually what's going on and the problems in your life because you're too busy trying to laugh at your enemy while you're the one who gets screwed you can look through all of maga you can look through trumpism but that is a defining trait and jd vance exemplified that perfectly there on the stage it's such an excellent point and i i also want to talk about this real quick trump using the word affordability is very telling to me like he can't help himself because you know somewhere recently his handlers have told them that the biggest issue or one of the biggest issues right now on the American people is affordability. It's a major reason we saw the election swing the way they did in early November. Mr. President hammer affordability. It's important.

Starting point is 00:50:41 And so what is Trump to? Because he's just so vain. He literally hammers the word affordability. And he goes up there and he tries to talk about affordability as now being one of his things that he's going to almost like steel, right? Like this talking point, right? It's way more than that, as we all know. But when he gets up there and tries to talk about affordability and how it's a big initiative of his, he can't help himself, but then further gaslight

Starting point is 00:51:06 the American people like, oh, this word affordability. I mean, come on, America's amazing right now. What are we talking about affordability? He can't help himself from not just being a maniac when it comes to this and realizing and understanding where the American people actually are. and what the word affordability actually means to the American people. No, this Thanksgiving, Trump, it's not the cheapest it's ever been for people.

Starting point is 00:51:31 People are hurting right now, and people are hungry, and people want prices to be at a normal place so that they can enjoy their lives. And you telling people, oh, it's all fine. No, absolutely not. That gaslighting the American people does not help their bank accounts in any way, Ben. Let's take our last quick break of the show. When I come back, when we come back, I want to talk about some of these legal developments. I'll break down what's happening with the case against Comey in case you were a little bit confused.

Starting point is 00:52:03 We'll make sure there's no confusion there. Also, you had the DOJ dismiss a case against a woman who they shot five times and accused of being a terrorist that I shot five times. They just dismissed the case because they made it all. up. We'll talk about that and more. You had Judge Ellis in Chicago issue a permanent injunction against the Trump regime's tactics there. A lot to discuss. We'll be right back after our last quick break of the show. Reminder, click join, become a member of our YouTube channel, gift as many YouTube memberships as you can while you're at it. Check out mitusplus.com. That's our substack community. Check that out. We'll be right back.

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Starting point is 00:57:43 If there's an exit survey, let them know he sent you. Benji, we're to next. So there was a big hearing this week in the Eastern District of Virginia where James Comey is seeking to dismiss the criminal indictment brought by the Trump regime against him for vindictive prosecution, among other potential defenses. And there was a bombshell that occurred during the hearing.

Starting point is 00:58:07 And rather than me just characterize what went down, Let me just read for you what happened in the court. So the court asks the lawyer who was there basically on behalf of Lindsay Halligan, the DOJ lawyer, who's now kind of stepped into this case because Halligan doesn't know what she's doing at all. And the person's name is Mr. Lemons. So the court, Judge Nakmanoff in the Eastern District of Virginia, says, All right, now let me ask you the question again. let me be clear that the second indictment, the operative indictment in this case that Mr. Comey faces

Starting point is 00:58:47 is a document that was never shown to the entire grand jury or presented in the grand jury room. Is that correct? The DOJ lawyer says, standing here in front of you, Your Honor, yes, that is my understanding. Now, I don't. I was not there, but that is my understanding. Yes, yes, your honor. Okay? Does it get any more clear than that?

Starting point is 00:59:21 His answer was yes. Now, what do you mean, Lindsay Halligan, who was the only person alone in the room with the grand jury? Judges aren't in the room. The defense lawyer is in the room. What do you mean she didn't show them the operative indictment? Well, here's what happened. She showed them first a three-count indictment. Now, the DOJ claims that the grand jury approved two of the three counts.

Starting point is 00:59:48 But Lindsey Halligan then says she had to go out in the hall, print out a new copy of the indictment, and then get the grand jury to sign off on a newly printed out indictment. That became the operative indictment. right but the issue is did lindsay halligan ever actually show that second indictment when she printed it out back to the grand jury because lindsay halligan says something very different about the first indictment when you actually look at what the indictment says because the first indictment shows that all three counts were rejected. That's what it says. Rejected in total. But she claims that the grand jury accepted two of the three counts. But it says all three counts

Starting point is 01:00:43 were rejected. So that's why when that proceeding took place, the magistrate was very confused. Because wait a minute, all three were rejected. But you're saying that the grand jury accepted two. So it's like, actually, we have the four person here. The grand jury. jury agreed to two of the counts and that's why we had it printed out again. That's not what the first said. It said it was all rejected, not that they've agreed to two of the three counts. So it would have been important given that what they signed off on was a total rejection for her to, if that was an error, right? What should she have done if she knew what she was doing? Let's just assume that the grand jury didn't mean to reject all three counts, that they accept what Halligan

Starting point is 01:01:30 says as true, even though we know they lie about everything. And the grand jury just accepted two of the three counts. Well, you go, well, there's clearly an error. So to avoid that error, I have to then show the new indictment to the grand jury so that there's no doubt and let them sign off on it. But the grand jury left for the day. She let them go. after they seem to have rejected the first indictment. So she just is there with the four person and these four, it's just a citizen who gets a jury notice. They don't know what they're doing.

Starting point is 01:02:05 And has the four person just sign off on it as though the whole grand jury saw the second indictment, the operative indictment, and they never saw it. And so Halligan's lawyer, the DOJ lawyer who was making the argument, admitted that the grand jury never saw it except the four person and except, I think, one other grand jury. Then the judge called up Halligan and said, is that true? And she's like, well, actually, there was one other grand juror, so a total of two.

Starting point is 01:02:36 And then Judge Nagman was like, okay, sit down, sit down, got it. So then today, Halligan and the DOJ filed something that I've never seen before, no practicing lawyer or former practicing lawyers ever seen before. governments notice correcting the record. So today, they say, actually, when Mr. Lemons said to the court what Ben just read, Mr. Lemons was wrong. He actually meant to say no, but he said yes. What Mr. Lemons meant to say, standing in front of you, Your Honor, no, that's not my

Starting point is 01:03:15 understanding. The grand jury saw the whole thing. But instead, he said, the grand jury. didn't see it. So the exact opposite, the main issue that was the hearing, now you want to file like a letter to the court saying, oopsie, we got it wrong. And get this, their evidence now to say why the DOJ lawyer was wrong during the hearing is when the court spoke to that four person, the court said, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. So you voted on the one that has the two counts, and the four person says yes.

Starting point is 01:03:54 That doesn't clear anything up at all. The four person does not know the way grand jury proceeding works. The four person didn't say, actually, there was a mistake and here's what went down. All the four person said is that the four person signed off on this thing that the DOJ lawyer in this case, Lindsey Halligan, who's never been a federal prosecutor in her life, who was a former beauty pageant contestant, turned insurance lawyer, Trump's personal lawyer, and he made her that lawyer just to go after Kobe. All he's saying here is that he signed or she,

Starting point is 01:04:28 whoever the foreperson was signed the document, not that the whole grand jury saw the operative indictment. Again, what I just said has never happened for. By the way, then there are the other issues that Lindsay Halligan and the DOJ have to get through that we talked about on the last episode, that Lindsay Halligan lied to the grand jury essentially that James Comey didn't have a Fifth Amendment right

Starting point is 01:04:51 against self-incrimination. She gave false jury instructions. And she said, oh, if you don't like our evidence, don't worry, it's Comey's burden to rebut him at the time of trial, which is not the legal instruction that's supposed to be given. So she gave two false legal instructions.

Starting point is 01:05:09 Then her only witness was an FBI agent who was exposed to attorney-client-privileged information between Comey and Comey's lawyer, and that rendered that agent so that he shouldn't have been able to testify at the proceeding, yet he testified at the proceeding, even though his testimony was tainted. So you have tainted witness, two false jury instructions, and then the grand jury doesn't even see the operative indictment all in one two-hour period in front of the grand jury. A first year law student, if you gave them a book on grand jury practice and told them, we need you to do this tomorrow, would have done a far better job than this. And now the Trump

Starting point is 01:06:00 regime is going to say, oh, it's a liberal judge and it's this and that and they're coming after me. And wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. That's why I wanted to read for you the transcript. So you can see for yourself. Brett and Jordy, I've just never seen this before. No practicing or formerly practicing lawyer who's been in federal court has ever seen this before. It's wild. I think the craziest thing about it is from like the very beginning of this case, we knew that something was up. We knew that something wasn't quite right because the information that the public knows, the information that's out there shows that all these charges are BS. And so we knew that whatever that they were presenting to the grand jury, whatever Halligan was presenting to the grand jury was certainly not the full story,

Starting point is 01:06:39 that she was not providing the exculpatory information that she's supposed to provide to the grand jury. We knew that something was up. I'm not even sure we knew that it would be this far. And, you know, I rewatched our last episode. I think it was our last one, Ben, where you put a lot of legal disclaimers as you were doing your explanation for what possibly could have happened. Like, did the, did they not submit the actual indictment? Ben was like, I want to be careful here, because this is like an outrageous thing to even suggest. And I want to be very careful here. But is that even possible? And yeah, like, that's exactly what seems to have happened here. Once again, going back to what we've been saying throughout the episode, it's the perfect combination between the corruption of the administration, the incompetence of the administration, and their attempt to just try to weaponize the Department of Justice to try to ruin people's lives.

Starting point is 01:07:25 To a certain extent, I don't think they totally care about all of this chaos, about the incompetence or whatever, because they just want to try to make, you know, James Comey's life held, Leticia James's life held, try to bury them in legal expenses. But I hope that somebody like a James Comey and a Letitia James can fire back at this, get these quickly dismissed, and then actually fight back and get their money back that they have to spend on cases like this. And just think of all the time they're wasting, you know, just like to try to put them through like some sort of public humiliation by booking them at the jail. I mean, this is actually like sick stuff to do to people who have not done anything wrong. And it actually is the real weaponization that these right wingers try to accuse Democrats of and the Biden administration of all that time when no. of that was going on. I mean, Joe Biden let his own son get indicted by his Department of Justice. But this administration just tries to go after all their political opponents. And they keep getting trapped because they're not following the law. They're following Donald Trump. And so one by one,

Starting point is 01:08:23 we're seeing all of these people around Donald Trump now get in trouble, right? We're seeing all the people around him try to do his bidding. And in doing so in trying to conjure up these charges, what inevitably happens? Well, they got to make stuff up. They got to do things unethically, legally, and then they keep getting caught in all of this sort of stuff. And so we see it here with Lindsey Halligan, who has no idea what the heck she's doing, as Ben said her. She was never a prosecutor in her life. She didn't have the job.

Starting point is 01:08:50 She literally has no clue what the heck she's doing. She's just a yes person who Donald Trump knows that he could stick in there. We see this recently. There was a story with that Bill Pulte guy who does the housing administration for Trump. Apparently, he was engaged in all this allegedly in all this unethical activity surrounding the Letitia James investigation and surrounding the Adam, the investigations they're doing into Adam Schiff. Now, it's looking like he could be in trouble.

Starting point is 01:09:14 There's a federal grand jury actually in Maryland right now that's investigating Bill Pulte and the DC attorney Ken Martin for their kind of illegal behavior, what seems to be a legal behavior in trying to dig up all this dirt on Trump. But we just have a corrupt regime right now where, you know, to me at this moment in time, I don't know what the remedy is because even if a guy like a Pulte, or a Ken Martin, and I'll ask you this to you, Ben, like even if those people were to be indicted on charges like this, ultimately to me, you know, I guess they got to assign a special prosecutor or something. The judge would have to assign a special prosecutor because if this goes

Starting point is 01:09:51 to this DOJ, they're the people running this DOJ. It's the most corrupt DOJ. They're not going to prosecute their own. And in the situation where they actually do get prosecuted, get convicted, all of that happens, you know, the end game is Donald Trump just pardons these people. And so they've set this up where they just are endorsing corruption and they are enabling it. And that's what this regime is. And it's no different than what happens in Russia, North Korea or all these autocratic countries because right now we do not have a democratic system with equal justice under the law. Think about this in the Abrago Garcia federal cases. And there's kind of a civil case that deals with his deportation and the Trump regime wants to send him to like different African nations.

Starting point is 01:10:35 Then there's the criminal proceeding that's taking place in the Middle District of Tennessee, but we now learned today that senior ICE officials were submitting declarations that they didn't write or even seem to review, that people at the DOJ were writing the declarations for them. And smartly, Judge, like Judge Zinnis and others, have been calling these agents to testify because they didn't believe their declarations were written. by them. And sure enough, the declarations were not written by them. So you've got people ghostwriting their declarations in order to inflict this horrible pain on people. And these ICE agents are letting their names be used. And we're in accountability phase, at least, or discovery

Starting point is 01:11:22 phase of finding this stuff out. I think accountability phase will still unfortunately be a few years, a few years away. You have Judge Bosberg, Washington, D.C., remember him. He's reignited the contempt proceedings against anybody in the Trump regime who defied his orders and sent those hundreds of migrants to Venezuela, I mean to El Salvador, Venezuela, Venezuela, and then as well ends, to El Salvador, where they were tortured by the Buckelly regime and placed in Seekot, these detention centers, which look like concentration camps, it seemed like concentration camps. So you had that, and then you have the Trump DOJ, had to dismiss all charge. against Marimar Martinez, who federal agents shot five times,

Starting point is 01:12:09 and who the DHS previously described as a domestic terrorist. And they said that she ambushed them in Brighton Park in Illinois, and they now have to dismiss the charges because it was all made up. Every aspect of it was made up by the ICE agents, by Border Patrol, by DHS, and they were exposed after doing exactly what they've done so many times many times to people using the full force of the federal government to try to destroy them. As I mentioned at the top of the episode, I want to conclude here by talking about Ukraine. Donald Trump promised he would bring peace to Ukraine in 24 hours. Well, in the past 24 to 48 hours,

Starting point is 01:12:51 we saw Russian drones and missiles kill an additional 25 innocent Ukrainians, including at least three children, and also the United States refused to show up at what was supposed to be trilateral discussions in Turkey. Erdogan was there, Zelensky was there, Witkoff was supposed to be there, but didn't show up after Zelensky said that he would be arriving with a peace proposal that he drafted with the Europeans, when the Europeans and Zelensky learned that Trump and Witkoff were working with a guy named Kareel Demetriov, a Russian special envoy who's been staying in the United States. And he's the guy who also controls a lot of the Russian money from the Russian sovereign wealth fund. His name may sound familiar because he was

Starting point is 01:13:41 the guy who was meeting with a lot of MAGA Republican Congress members, like Annapolina Luna. He was handing them books about Putin and a lot of propaganda there. But he was also back channeling discussions with the White House, and they crafted Putin's plan for surrender to Ukraine that the U.S. and Russia were going to present in Turkey. Zelensky got word of it and then worked with the European allies of Zelensky, of Ukraine, to counter it with the European Zelensky proposal. Then Whitkoff refused to show up. Then we saw Russian kill those innocent civilians, and I think they're all tied together. And at the same time, you have Keith Kellogg, Keith Kellogg, who was the special envoy, also the original special envoy to Ukraine

Starting point is 01:14:28 and Russia. He got removed from being the special envoy to Russia because Putin didn't want him to do that. And he was the guy who said, remember at the outset, we would show you videos of him where he goes, actually, it's not going to be 24 hours. It's going to be a few months or 100 days or 24 hours, but we're not going to tell you what 24 hours it's going to be. Remember I used to show you those clips of the guy, maybe 24 hours like in a few years from now. And then we basically always said that this guy is going to get fired or pushed out. And so he's either quit on his own or resigned or he's been forced out and fired essentially by the Trump regime.

Starting point is 01:15:04 But this was a serious guy, Keith Kellogg. People in the military say that he had a very distinguished career. And he's like thrown his entire reputation away. Really. His reputation is in the trash right now because of what he's done here. And it's just a disgraceful way for someone who had a great career just to destroy it. And that's what happens in this in this Trump regime. So bye-bye, Keith Kellogg.

Starting point is 01:15:29 He was one of the voices that you would hope would have advocated for Ukraine. This is what happens, you know, to people like that, just thrown away and discarded like trash and the dust spin of history now. And it's sad because the guy, it's more sad, screw this guy. It's sad because of what it means for Ukraine and what it means. for the region. And Donald Trump can say all he wants. I've solved eight wars. I've solved 17 wars and $23 trillion. Americans aren't buying it. Americans aren't buying it. So. And there's real consequences in line. I mean, yesterday, what happened? Like yesterday, Trump made one of his other announcements,

Starting point is 01:16:04 right? He said, we've got a deal. He goes, we got another Ukraine deal. I was like, what's the deal this time? And then as the details came out, and of course, there were some places who wrote a headline, Trump says that he has new Ukraine deal. Well, he didn't. He spoke to Russia, Russia gave him their demands. And then he said that we had a deal that he was going to try to force Ukraine to meet Russia's demands, which was essentially giving up like all the land that Russia is trying to take. And that was his idea of doing a deal. And so you just see the utter weakness of the administration and the lives on the other end of that weakness right now, the people who are suffering, whether it's in Ukraine, whether it's here in the United States.

Starting point is 01:16:44 And unfortunately, far too often the media goes along with all of his BS on these peace deals and everything. But, you know, the America people are seeing through it. There's a reason why even in these latest Fox polls, and Fox has good polling, you know, typically, by the way, that Donald Trump is sinking in all categories. You're seeing it on all these polls, that Marist poll that shows Donald Trump in the low 30s. You're seeing it in the Maris poll that shows Democrats surging ahead of Republicans by like 14 points in the midterms. All the signs are there right now that people are sick and tired of this administration. Unfortunately, it took call a year of this chaos or 10 months of this chaos or whatever for it to sink in for a lot of folks but now

Starting point is 01:17:23 here we are okay and if you're just joining us fine come in let's get back to reality let's try to get the wheels back on track here get the train pack on track here and let's try to fix this thing okay we're going to have a lot to deal with right where there's it's a lot easier to destroy than it is to build but let's get through this let's stick together let's keep the momentum going and then we try to rebuild what's left of our democracy and we try to actually create a new future where we don't accept the president of the United States screaming at a reporter calling her piggy and having somebody behind the lectern in the press office defending it and gaslighting you and abusing you as they take away your snap, as they take away your Medicare, as they take away

Starting point is 01:18:02 your Medicaid. Like enough of this BS, enough. We want normalcy, right? We want this country to actually work for people and we actually want it to work for working people and not have them be gaslit and destroyed as you go, oh, we'll get MAGA hats. Oh, look, you put the MAGA hat on him. shut up. Shut up. People are trying to work. People are trying to actually live here. They're trying to take care of their families. Just stop with the games. So if anybody happens to catch this stream, catch this podcast just through algorithms or whatever, and they're watching it and they don't know what's going on and they're on the fence and they're, you know, maybe even more MAGA or Republican. Come in. Let's do this. Okay. Enough is enough. We've seen what Donald Trump

Starting point is 01:18:38 did. We've seen what the Republicans are doing. They're trying to cover up for the most notorious sex trafficker that's ever existed. Okay. That's what they're about. out, okay? There's normalcy and there's that crazy stuff. I think let's go on the normal path right now. I agree. Thank you everybody so much. Remember to click join and become a member and gift memberships. If you can, subscribe to the Midas Touch podcast on all platforms. So YouTube viewers, subscribe on audio, audio listeners, subscribe on YouTube. If you can leave a five-star review wherever you get the audio podcast from, that's a huge help as well. Check out Midasplus.com. And thank you, thank you, thank you.

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