The MeidasTouch Podcast - MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 2/6/26

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

On this episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast, we break down the explosive fallout from the latest Epstein Files release, from sudden corporate resignations at home to political shockwaves overseas, and examine new questions about whether Donald Trump was secretly meeting with Epstein in the lead-up to his first term. We also react to Trump’s truly bizarre interview on NBC News, unpack devastating new economic data as layoffs surge to Great Recession–level territory and Bitcoin takes a sharp dive, and analyze Democrats’ aggressive cross-examination of Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent on Capitol Hill. Ben, Brett, and Jordy discuss all this and more. Subscribe to Meidas+ at https://meidasplus.com Get Meidas Merch: https://store.meidastouch.com Deals from our sponsors!  Better Help: Visit https://BetterHelp.com/meidas to get 10% off your first month. Select Quote: Save more than 50% on term life insurance at https://SelectQuote.com/meidas today to get started! ZBiotics: Head to https://zbiotics.com/MEIDAS to get 15% off your first order when you use MEIDAS at checkout. Fatty15: Get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to https://fatty15.com/meidas and using code: MEIDAS at checkout. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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A horrible jobs report coming out, private sector jobs. absolutely tanking. I mean, we haven't seen anything like this since the great recession of 2009 or right around September of COVID. We'll cover that. The Trump regime continues to cover up Donald Trump's involvement in the Epstein files. And with Epstein, it's harder to do when you see all of these things that have Donald Trump's name on it or referenced 38,000 times in 5,000 different documents and the more you go through these files, the more grim, grotesque and disgusting it is. And, you know, the deeper the connections with Trump's first administration are. I did a deep dive showing that there are messages that show that Epstein said he was going to be

hanging out with the Trump boys. I mean, pretty close to the time that he ended up dying. He's speaking with Bannon about potential meetings with Trump. And they seem to be all of these back channel communications. taking place. And again, I could only read what's in the emails, so I don't know beyond what's being said, but it ain't like Epstein's talking to random people. He's talking to like Bannon, talking to prime ministers. He's talking to major leaders and political figures. And it's just so fascinating to me. I did a whole video on it this morning, how other countries are dealing with this and handling people from their

countries who may have been associated with Epstein and basically shaming them, pushing them out, making sure they're fired, and speaking with moral clarity, whether you saw in Poland, the Prime Minister Tusk talking about launching an investigation there and anybody who has anything to do with Epstein will be gone right away from that government and fully prosecuted. We see what's happening in the UK. I mean, the parliament there, you know, yesterday, as all hell was breaking loose. His Prime Minister Starmor was, you know, admitted that he knew that this guy, Peter Mandelson, who was the ambassador to the United States who since have been fired,

you know, had these connections with Epstein and, you know, Starmer's under fire right now about how'd you even allow somebody to hold a position who had these connections? And, of course, we see what's in the files. But here, with these Mago Republicans, they just deny that Trump's in them. even though Trump's in him in the most grotesque way. I checked out these memes and I fact-checked that they're true. That Trump appears more in the Epstein files than Harry Potter does in the Harry Potter

seven books, including the word Harry. There's more references to Trump than the word Harry in the Harry Potter books and more references to Trump in the Epstein files than Jesus in the Bible. Okay. And it's not like these are just passing references. They're like grotesque references as well. So we'll break that down. Also, Donald Trump in this bizarre interview with NBC was again bragging about cognitive exams

and how, you know, and how he claims that he's so smart and just bizarre behavior. You have California with a massive win before the United States Supreme Court, which upheld the California Prop 50 Maps. So not only did California fight back against Trump's attempt to rig the midterms in Texas, and California picked up five seats. Virginia and other states followed the lead of California, and they've been great in Virginia as well. And they put forward the Democrats, they're a 10-to-one map. So Democrats are going to net, it seems, more seats than the MAGA Republicans and Trump in the midterms just based on the gerrymandering. And then the Texas gerrymander by Trump and Abbott seemed to be a dummymander because they diluted safer rates.

districts into areas where we're seeing Democrats in their over performances and special elections beating Republicans by those margins. So we'll cover that as well. Brett and Jordy, we've got a lot to discuss here. You know, and I wanted to also focus on the good news and the momentum, though, as well with Virginia, the 10-1 map and not just focus on some of the dark and grim stuff of these Epstein files. But Brett, every day you're sending me stuff and I'm just like, oh my, I'm reading I'm sending you stuff, our editorial team. We're like, this is grotesque. Yeah, we have a ongoing chat

where all us and all of our researchers have been pouring through the Epstein files. And as you know, there were something like three million documents released. That's a lot of stuff. And there's a lot of stuff that you just continuously find, whether by putting in different search terms or clicking on random documents,

a lot of people have made indexes of all the documents to make it easily searchable, to make the videos easy to find, to make the photos, easy to find. And I got to say, I've been deep in it, and it's very, it's very dark. Very dark, very grim. And some of the stuff, quite frankly, like you know it's going to be bad, but when you actually see it in writing, it's just jaw-dropping. It's just disgusting. It's abhorrent. It's sick. It's grotesque. It's vile. It's depraved. Any word you want to use

to describe it, it is just disgusting. It's so gross. But we've been uncovering it all. And, you know, And I think one of the most fascinating things about it is just to see all of these people, all of these Epstein associates lying about it in real time. Like at this point, we're able to see these communications. We're able to see people making plans with Epstein at various times, dinners with Epstein, going to the island with Epstein, or at least making plans to go to the island with Epstein. Epstein making plans to meet them in various places in New York and Palm Beach, you name it.

And then many of these same people are going online and they're trying to downplay their relationship, which to me only sounds more alarms. It only raises more red flags because it's like, why are you lying about it? We could see exactly what happened in all of this. And we're gonna give you our opinions on all of this based on the documentation that we see. We're going to be asking the questions based on the documents

that you could see, obviously, we're unable to confirm 100% of everything and if things actually made it to fruition and all of that. But the stuff that we are seeing in these documents is shocking, and particularly, as Ben noted, a lot of the stuff about Donald Trump, which shows that it appears that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were very close and had at least lines of communication, potentially, going up until, as recently, with folks like Don Jr., 2018, 2019, months before Jeffrey Epstein died. And there's a lot of interactions about Trump,

saying, talking about meetings with Trump, talking about being with Trump, right before the 2016, right before the inauguration in 2017. I mean, this is truly, truly jaw-dropping stuff. And I look at other countries like the UK, and I'm looking at what's happening in Lithuania and Norway, and they are actually taking action. This is a big deal to people, because they actually care about this stuff.

And here we have a Department of Justice instead of actually trying to find justice to seek justice, what they are doing is they are acting as Donald Trump's personal criminal defense. firm and it is absolutely disgusting. We're going to speak about that and more. First I'm going to toss the jury. Jordy, I got to say though, the light of the mood a little bit, it's a nice jacket you got on. I knew you were going to say, you always bully me when I wear this jacket, be.

Excuse me everybody. How's that a bully? Before we start the show, I'm going to do the joke because it's mean. I told Brett to comment on my jacket and he didn't know I was going to do that part of it. I was going to make it seem like he bullied me, but I felt bad and guilty. Hi, everybody. You set me up? Yeah, I did.

I totally set you up. But I caved immediately, so it wasn't that great. Who sets up your big bro? I set you up for like an audience of one because that's how quickly I came around on the joke. Anyway, I'm excited to get into today's show. Big show tonight. We are less than 80,000 subscribers from hitting 6 million subscribers on the Midas Touch YouTube channel.

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And will save me from having to shave my head if we don't hit that $6 million mark. Benji, where are we starting off today, Big Bro? I'll show you this document though right here. Jeffrey Epstein writing. Can we do coffee with Don Jr. Thursday or Friday? This is January 27th of 2019. Only if easy. As you know, I like people that are funny. And so they're scheduling time to meet with Don Jr., whether that meeting actually occurred or not. I think that's an important one.

You have him talking about, Epstein talking about meeting with the Trump boys. We're going to meet with the Trump boys. This is Boris Nicolic. When are you back in New York City? It was one of the executors of Epstein's estate, by the way. Yeah, he was the, exactly. He was the executive. And he was put there two days before Epstein,

ultimately died. And this is an email from December 25th, 2016. Epstein says, Fourth in Palm with all the Trump boys, fun. And Donald Trump and the Trump boys were indeed there during that time period when you go back and you look at it. It should also be noted that there's this message, January 8th, 2017. Epstein to a guy named Richard Merkin, who's an executive. Epstein says you well. Merkin says, fair and you, Epstein, all good with Trump. Lots of opportunity. All good with Trump. Lots of opportunity. And like we said, we tracked this. We looked at the news articles. We looked at the footage. We looked at the Getty photos, the historical record and newspapers, various publications. And when Epstein said, with the Trump boys in Palm on that date, Donald Trump and then they were in Palm Beach that Christmas.

Donald Trump is at Mar-a-Lago. There are articles about him going to doing a Christmas mass that year. It was right before, you know, he took office for his first term. And that second part where he said with Trump, lots of opportunity, again, Donald Trump was in New York when Epstein was saying he was in New York potentially with Trump. And so, like we said, we have no way of confirming if those meetings actually took place. But these are what the emails state. And I think it's even more, you know, important to note that this clearly shows, despite anything that may have actually occurred at the time, that Epstein viewed himself as having an in line, a direct line to people like Don. Jr. two people like Donald Trump, the fact that he's trying to make these plans with Don Jr. The fact that he's trying to set all these things up, the stuff that he's speaking to Steve Bannon about, who obviously was especially back then, but still today, very close with Donald Trump and

was an advisor and an aide to Donald Trump. So it's very clear that there were lines of communication we could surmise by just looking at the documents, looking at what's in black and white. And by the way, also 100% debunks Trump's lie that he had ended his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein decades before they kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago that he's a sleaze bag that he stopped his communication. I mean, it just blows that all up. Well, yeah, I mean, there was, I mean, Jordan, to that point, there was a New York Post article right around the time that Epstein made that sweetheart deal. And Epstein is quoted in the New York Post as saying, what do you, I'm not banned from Mar-a-Lago. I was just invited to show up recently.

in page six of the New York Post back then, okay? So you had, you know, you had messages like that. You know, you had, G. Lane Maxwell was referred to as G by Melania. And Melania referred to Jeffrey Epstein as J.E. She goes, Jay E really good in the New York, New York Magazine article. Nice story about, nice story about Jay and NYMAG. You look great on the picture.

He's saying that's a dear G. to Galane. I know you're very busy flying all over the world. How is Palm Beach? I cannot wait to go down. Give me a call when you're back in New York. Have a great time. Love Melania. And then Melania. Then Galane responds to Melania by calling Melania Trump sweet pee. She says, sweet pee. Thanks for your message. Actually, plans changed again. And I'm now on my way back to New York. I leave again on Friday. So I still do not think I have time to see you sadly. I will try and call though. Keep well, G. By the way, that's the New York Magazine. article that Donald Trump said that Epstein is a good guy who likes women on the younger side,

right? Like that was the article that didn't like go fully out there and say these things about Epstein because remember a lot of the reporting was pulled back and we know what was happening and the writer wanted to write more and the editors were kind of preventing it. But there were all the hints in that article as written about what was taking place. And Melania said, J.E. look great. You look great in this. So it's just so fascinating. Like, you know, you know, like Melania wanted to, you know, further promote her failed movie yesterday. So she was holding these press conferences. And she used these Israeli-American people who were held hostage by Hamas. And she used them as like props in order to promote her movie. And because she was like,

you know, in the Melania movie, I reached out to their family members. So if you want to see Melania in theaters now, and I'll show you that in a moment. But Melania was asked by reporters, what do you make of Gilane Maxwell being in the minimum security facility? What do you think about that, Melania? Watch Melania's response. Let's play it. There's a call from any residents

survivors about the late Maxwell move to a high security. Thank you, Russ. We are here celebrating the release and the life of those two incredible people. So let's honor that. You don't get to enter into polite society. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You have to answer. You have to answer these questions or don't show up, right? You think, oh, and did you see immediately her handlers when that question was asked? All right, everybody leave. Time to go out. Everybody leave. Press conference is over.

Press conference over. Let me show you what was just going down in that press conference. Here's how she promotes the movie Melania while she's with the freed hostages? Just watch this. Seven, twenty, twenty, three. And Keith was captured for four hundred thirty four days. After Aviva was freed, she called me, wanted to see me, and we set up a meeting in New York in January, 2025. It was a motion of meeting and it is captured on camera and

and available to see in my new film, Melania. Like, that's almost right out of... Oh my God. And you could see it in theaters everywhere. This is the craziest thing. And then a reporter asks her, you know, and I like that reporters are finally asking questions that are more aggressive.

Like they're, it's progressively getting better these questions and reporters are starting to feel more comfortable to ask these questions. So Dijenda gets asked, why do you feel it's appropriate to use a White House event? to promote your movie. Like, that's clearly what you just did. Like, why do you think that's appropriate? Here, watch this. Why do you feel is appropriate to use an official White House event to promote your documentary? This is not promotion. We are here celebrating the release of the hostages of Aviva and Keith.

They were in Washington, D.C. and they called me. They said they would like to come over to thank me and to give hugs, and that's why we are here. There's nothing to do with promotion. It has nothing to do with the promotion, guys. It has nothing to do with, like, do you think we're stupid? So much of this is that question. Do you think we're that stupid, right? At a time where Americans are psychologically tortured

living paycheck to paycheck. at a time where you have January layoff surging to 17-year high, as U.S. employers announced 108,435 layoffs in January, up 205% from December, the highest amount of layoffs since January 2009. Or how about job openings falling to 6.5 million in December, the lowest level since September 2020, while Donald Trump's out there suing his own government, settling with himself for $10 billion. And they treat us all like we're so stupid.

Like we don't know that what they're doing is what they're doing. Oh, Donald's going to give it a charity. He said he's going to give it a charity. Oh, got it. This wasn't promotion when you just promoted the film Melania? Oh, they just called you up to say thank you while you were out promoting your mood. Oh. And that ties into the release of these Epstein files, though, as well, because what was taking place

was a cabal of rich men using sex trafficking as their currency, abusing little girls, and destroying the world, destroying the lives, and destroying the world while they were gratitude with everybody else. And it's like and we see, you know, I mean, look, you, you know, you had, you had Epstein talking about shorting the Russian rubble three days before or five days before the annexation of Crimea. He knew when Crimea was going to be attacked by Russia. And so much of this was they were, and, you know, it's notable too that they were talking about Bitcoin and Putin getting involved in Bitcoin and Epstein speaking with, you know, the royal family of UAE about Bitcoin back in like 2013, 2014. And just think about how these individuals got so

much richer propping up Bitcoin. And then you see today Bitcoin crashing. Bitcoin has lost like 50% of its value in the past like week, week and a half. I mean, you know, or the past few months. Right. Go back to that last one right there before this. The crypto market lost $2 trillion in value since October of 2025. As the Kobayasi letter explains on October 6th, crypto markets hit a record high market cap of 4.3 trillion. Today the crypto market is worth just 2.3 trillion losing $2 trillion worth of market cap in four months. 46, I said 50, I'll be precise.

46% of crypto's entire value has been wiped out right now. And these are a lot of people who put money into this thinking, oh, I'm going to be rich. There was so, especially at the beginning of Trump's campaign because Trump made such a big deal. Like I'm against crypto regulation. I'm the crypto president. If you like crypto, I'm your guy. Now all of these people who bought crypto at that time are left holding the bag. A lot of them are just completely wiped out, completely liquidated because crypto now is below where it was. after Donald Trump was elected. I mean, and it had spiked quite a bit, right?

It had this big sugar eye, you know, and peaked about four months ago before, boom, just the bottom dropped out. And it is ugly right now. And I see these crypto people, they are scared. They are not happy. A lot of some of them have lost their life savings. It's disturbing. And when you actually look at the files also, as Ben said, all of this is connected to all of

kind of global affairs and the way the world works. These are a lot of the people. And I know it sounds conspiratorial. And I think a lot of things that sound conspiratorial we're learning are like very much real things. But there are people who are kind of pulling the strings in world affairs. And I think Epstein was very central to all of that.

And so there was an email with Jeffrey Epstein and Peter Thiel, which I think speaks to, you know, this issue that we're talking about right now. And in general, you know, a lot of the things that we're going to be speaking about, Peter Thiel, obviously the Silicon Valley guy, he helped found PayPal with Elon Musk, very tied into that whole kind of tech cabal

of Elon Musk and David Sachs, and he's the reason why J.D. Vance is where he is. He funded J.D. Vance. He Palantir, all that stuff, Peter Thiel. And so here is a message that Jeffrey Epstein sent to Peter Thiel in 2016. And I think this is very revealing. Jeffrey Epstein said to Peter Thiel that at first he said, Brexit just the beginning. So they're talking about Brexit back then. Peter Thiel says, of what? And Jeffrey Epstein says, and I want you to think right now, if this sounds familiar to the policies of the Trump regime and to exactly what Trump is trying to do and what all of these people who are involved in this

are trying to do right now and how it fits in with current society and economics and geopolitics. So Jeffrey Epstein says, return to tribalism, counter to globalization, amazing new alliances, you and I both agree, zero interest rates were too high. I mean, how often have we were, Trump said that? And as I said in your office,

finding things on their way to collapse was much easier than, and finding the next bargain. So he's saying out loud that they will have an easier time making money if things collapse, if they're able to return to tribalism. I mean, does this not define the last few years of the United States and the world of these right-wing oligarchs who have been pushing all of this stuff? You're seeing it right there in black and white.

And as we see the communications as well, between, you know, as we showed you, he was trying to set up a meeting with Don Jr. in, uh, it was a 2018, 2019. as we saw him say that, you know, saying that he was with the Trump boys in Palm Beach, it appears in 2016. I thought about this article that was written, I think it was something last year in The Daily Beast, where they alleged that Epstein's Butler, where they say that Epstein's Butler alleged that Jeffrey Epstein boasted about getting a job offer from Donald Trump to work in the first Trump administration. I mean, if you remember, listeners of the show, no, I made a joke about this. this a few weeks ago, that if Epstein wasn't arrested, that he'd probably be like in Trump's cabinet. He'd probably be like Treasury Secretary. I forgot about this article right here.

Epstein Butler claims boss boasted about Trump job offer. And this isn't some like guy who was just in and out of Epstein's orbit. This was a guy who was with Epstein for more than a decade. I could get the exact, I think he was with Epstein for like 15 years or something at his Paris, 18 years. So he ran Epstein's Paris home and worked for the disgrace financier for 18 years and he gave a wide-ranging on-the-record interview with the telegraph where he said the following. Trump asked me to work for him in the new government. The butler claimed Epstein said, I said, congratulations, I'm happy for you in my bad English. And Epstein said, no, I didn't accept. Now, that on its own is just one data point. When you put that with all these other data

points of showing in the emails that Epstein is saying essentially that he's very close with Trump, that he's with Trump, send this message to Trump, trying to get. set up with Don Jr., whatever it is, I personally, I believe, in my opinion, my First Amendment protected free speech opinion, I completely believe that that is the case. Absolutely. I mean, like, when you look behind the curtain at all of this, I feel like it's just so much even more evil and coordinated than anyone I maybe even could have, like, thought, like, pulling these pieces together.

It is, it is wild. It is wild. And I just want to comment on a few things here. On inauguration day, January 20th, 20, 2025. Bitcoin was over $109,000. As of right now, it is $64,000. So just absolutely bonkers for someone, Donald Trump, who campaigned as the pro-crypto guy.

I also don't want to lose this site, Ben. When Galane called Melania Sweet Pea, sweet pee, I don't know if that's like a regional term or whatever, but like the only times I've heard sweet pee is like the ultimate term of endearment. So I just want, like, I just want to put that into the war. world. Like my wife's grandmother refers to her as sweet pee. Like it is someone that you know, you're not just calling any Joe Schmo off the street sweet pee just to show you just another data point for how close these two likely were. And I know you're giving it up, Ben, for the press,

you know, finally pushing, uh, finally pushing Melania a bit more. And I agree with you. I think the questioning was better. But I just can't happen, you know, to think to myself sitting here right now, those clips, if that was Dr. Jill Biden being asked those questions by those same reporting class, how much more sort of with vigor would those reporters be coming with? And there wouldn't just be one question sort of, you know, just peppered in here and there. It would be every single question. And by the way, they would have every legitimate right to do it if President Biden was in the Epstein files at all. And so when you see these reporters, I think to your point, Ben, there are some asking good questions, but I just have to be like to myself,

I wish they were asking you or more. I wish they were being stronger and more forceful about it, because there is clearly a much more deeper relationship here between Galane and Melania, then we all know. And we should, we, the collective, we should all know what that relationship entail. Yes, no, if Dr. Jill Biden was friends with a child sex trafficker and in the files, and was promoting. her own movie that a right-wing oligarch paid her $75 million for and then had a state regime

media promoted. I agree, Jordie. Dr. Jol Biden would be asked a lot more difficult questions than that. But that's where I want to pull back and just say like, we are in these unprecedented times where Donald Trump is having his IRS, where the acting director is Bessent, who runs the Treasury Department, give Donald Trump. from the general fund of Treasury paid into by taxpayers $10 billion because Donald Trump said that he was the victim of a data breach that 404,000 other Americans also were back in 2021. So now Trump wants $10 billion for himself, which he claims he's going to give to charity. I'll address that.

He's not, I'll explain, though, what I think the scheme is there as well, which seems pretty obvious to me. But then you have Donald Trump posting things like this. This is the White House post this. Then even they had to delete it. For the first time in five years, a majority of Americans say their personal finances are improving. This is just the beginning of the Trump economic boom. 62% say their personal finances are getting better. I mean, quite literally, the poll is the opposite. Like, 72 or 75% of Americans say that they are, that the economy is poor or just fair. But like, No one's saying it's doing good or better right now. By the way, I think that's so indicative of where we are right now, right?

Because even on a right-wing friendly platform like X, formerly Twitter, the White House post that propaganda image, and they were so ruthlessly mocked and derided by people of all sides that they actually deleted it. I mean, that to me alone speaks volumes. Or Trump during an interview yesterday with NBC, and we'll show you more of the cognitive of stuff that he was saying, but he says that he really likes Bill Clinton. He's upset that Bill Clinton has been subpoenaed to testify, along with Hillary Clinton, regarding the Epstein files, and that it's in that Bill Clinton is being treated unfairly.

Watch this, and then we'll talk to you about what's really going on. Let's play it. NBC News broke the story today. I don't know if you saw it that the Democrats are already saying, if you bring President Bill Clinton and he has to testify, we're bringing President Trump. What do you say to that? I think they might say that, you know, but they've already brought me. See, I've been brought. They had me indicted many, many times, many, many times. And the president had some surprising thoughts about former president Bill Clinton.

It bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See, I like Bill Clinton. I still like Bill Clinton. What do you like about him? I liked, well, I liked his behavior toward me. I thought he got me, he understood me. You know, he was the one that said very famously that you don't want to run against Trump when there were 18 people. It was 18 people, including me, total.

And he kept telling them, you don't want to run against Trump. Run against anyone. Don't run against Trump. And Hillary sort of left at him. He goes, I mean, he's a deranged, demented human being. I don't even have to show you the other clips. But we know Donald Trump's been the one saying, go after Bill Clinton, go after Hillary Clinton. Focus on them with the Epstein files.

Not me. So what changed? Oh, I know what changed. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton posted that she and former President Bill Clinton are, I have agreed that not only do they want to testify before the House Oversight Committee, they want to do it in public. And here's what former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton writes. For six months, we engaged Republicans on the Oversight Committee in good faith.

We told them what we know under oath. They ignored all of it. They moved the goalposts and turned accountability into an exercise in distraction. So let's stop the games. If you want this fight, James Comer, the Magu, Republican who leads the House Oversight Committee, let's have it in public. You love to talk about transparency. There's nothing more transparent than a public hearing.

Cameras on, we will be there. So in response to that, that's why Donald Trump has changed his tune on Clinton. And the Clinton's called Trump's Bluff. You want to do a whole hearing in Congress on Epstein? Let's do it. Hillary Clinton says, I'll go first. Let's do it in public. Let's go.

We'll talk about everybody's connections with Epstein. That's Donald Trump. That's the Gibbaler post by her. Like, that is really like. No, it is. Let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. And it needs to get more, by the way, what she's doing there needs to get more attention.

And like it's weird, though, to your point, Jorny about corporate media. Like, no one's connecting the dots that obviously that's why Donald Trump is now saying that. And you know the Maga Republicans are going to say, oh, actually, we want to do a deposition in private first. And they're not going to want to do it in public. And then they're going to try to hold them in contempt when they don't want to do it in private. Exactly. And then they're going to try to take little snippets of it and say, oh, look what we got of Bill Clinton. because they're clowns.

They're fascist clowns, all of them. Not political, Republican. They're just bad humans, these magas, who engage in this types of behavior. So, Ben, it's what I said last episode. They don't have an honest bone in their body. They don't care. These Republicans do not care to get to the truth at all.

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Donald Trump was asked about settling with his own government, settling with the, it should be our government, but he's basically, his regime has taken over all layers. Remember, so he just sued the IRS, the Treasury Department, so his own United States, he sued for $10 billion, saying that he was part of a data breach on tax returns back in 2021. And there was that guy, little John there,

who that was the guy's name, not the rapper, who two took the... Okay. Who kind of, you know, had access to all of these things. I think it impacted, I think it impacted over 400,000 Americans who were subject to that data breach. During the Senate hearing with Bessent, it sounded like they were saying 44,000, but I think maybe they were saying 404,000. I'll show you that in a moment, but I'll make the point I want to make then. Anyway, on that basis, Donald Trump has sued basically himself with Bessent as the defendant, $10 billion.

And Trump says he's already won the lawsuit against the United States government. He just sued as the president. He goes, but I did it in my private capacity. So now he's going to pay himself $10 billion of our taxpayer dollars. And he's asked about it. And with a straight face, he's like, yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Absolutely. Here play this clip.

Essentially, the lawsuit's been won. I guess I want a lot of money. How would this work? Scott Beston's the head of the IRS. I know. What I would do. And Bonnie's the head of the Justice Department. They're going to defend the IRS against you.

You're their boss. Well, there's never been anything like it in all fair. So are you going to tell to pay you? Don't forget, I sued as a private citizen because I sued between terms. I won three times. I won three times, but I didn't assume, unfortunately, for this country. I didn't assume office the second day. But here's the story.

I sued because they broke into Maralaga. That was before I became president. Now it goes along, and it turned out that the suit is a very strong suit. You're going to tell them to pay you, though? Because you're the boss. Well, what I would do, tell them to pay me, but I'll give 100% of the money to charity. I don't want any of the money. You take it out of the system.

A couple more questions here. No, no, I'm putting it back into the system. If I give money to American Cancer Society, I will give 100% of the money away to charity. I don't want any of it. $30 trillion debt, and we're going to take $10 billion out of the system? Well, I mean, you give it away anyway. They give away a lot of money. Okay.

First off, I think we all agree that's crazy. Like, that's criminal, in my opinion. First Amendment, right? I'm giving you my opinion. You're going to steal our taxpayer money and force the government to settle with yourself. Like, this stuff is unfathomable. Like, it's unfathomable criminal and crazy.

In my opinion, that this is a serious thing that they're actually doing right now. I also think we all agree that he's probably not going to give this money to charity. Oh, sure he is. The Donald J. Trump Foundation. Just assume he gives it to charity, though. You know what the plan would be, right? Everybody gets what he's going to try to do then. He's going to then, here's what I think he's going to give you my opinion. First, he's going to claim that he suffered physical,

emotional distress such that he's going to claim that the $10 billion is tax-free and not income when he settles with himself. Is the IRS going to enforce that? Bessent is going to make an opinion that Trump isn't a personal physical injury. You think they're going to audit Donald Trump and say that that's how he's taking it. So he's going to take it as a personal physical injury under the IRS code that I used to advise clients in personal injury cases that you should see a tax advisor who will give you the real. But you can get it tax free if it's a personal physical injury.

Obviously, this isn't a personal physical injury. but I bet you Trump thinks Trump will claim it that way. So we won't even pay taxes on the amount. Then if he gives 10 billion to charity, what he'll do is he'll use it as a complete offset on his income or he'll use it as a deduction. And then what he'll also do because who's going to audit him? Then he'll carry the extra money. Let's just say he donates 10 billion that he paid himself from the government to them. Then in his own mind, he'll never pay taxes for the.

the rest of his life because he will carry he'll get a tax person tell him that he can then carry the deduction over to every tax year for the remainder of his life and then he'll never pay taxes again so then when he does the shady deals with united arab emirates and or whoever and makes the billions of dollars he'll pay zero income tax because he entered into a tax free settlement and he then donates the money and it's a complete offset on all of his taxes i just want to let you know with that assume he gave it to charity, that's what his plan, you know, it's not, you're not tricking people, like who are in the, who are professionals. You're like, I know what he's trying to do there as well, assuming he does that.

If he doesn't just take it for himself, then we never hear from it again. And we never see the donation. You know, I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about what I'm going to. I'm thinking about what I'm going to. And think about how much money Trump has already made from the presidency. He's profited from the presidency like nobody ever in history. the New York Times did that report recently,

where they estimated that he is already made at least $1.4 or $1.5 billion on at the floor, at the absolute lowest. Obviously, you know, wealth and stakes in things are not necessarily liquid cash and income in that capacity. But you could see if that's where we're starting at, at the lowest end right now, and I think it's personally significantly higher than that.

If that's where we're starting, think about the buffer he just gave himself to Ben's point with the taxes. to continue to earn billions and billions and billions of dollars completely tax-free by scamming the United States taxpayer. I mean, it is a devious plot to enrich himself and not have to pay a penny. What do you think he's setting up the offshore Qatari bank accounts for? You know, he's diverting government money for unlawful invasions of countries and other activity like that to then keep the money not within the treasury, but then to,

segregate money in a Katari account that he has access to, that there's no oversight over at all. And again, this shouldn't be a Democrat, Republican independent thing. This should just be, we should all be infuriated by this behavior, especially as Americans are psychologically tortured living paycheck to paycheck right now. If they're lucky enough to have a paycheck, Americans can't afford rent. They can't afford homes. Highest student loan delinquency since, you know, great recession. You know, type of very highest car loan deficient.

All of these things. I'll just show you this other clip with Donald Trump. I want to show you what happened at the Senate hearing where Senator Gallegos was cross-examining Bessette. But first, let me just show you Donald Trump talking about cognitive stuff and that he takes cognitive exams just so you can see like the level of insanity we're dealing with here, your play this clip. I feel great.

I mean, physically and mentally, I feel like I did 50 years ago. It's crazy. Now, there'll be a time when I won't be able to give you that end. answer. But that time has income, you know. I do. I think it's very important. I've done more physicals. I take physicals just to give the report out. I take cognitive physicals. So I do a cognitive mind test, okay? And a lot of people wouldn't be able to do very well. Not easy. You know, you get to those last questions. I've aced. I've done three of them. No other president has agreed to do them. I do them because I have no problem with it because I'm 100%.

Okay, and again, as we watch him there, and our audio listeners, you can't see him. I mean, you hear how crazy he sounds, but he looks like a mad person. And then you have the interviewer looking at him like he's watching somebody who is deeply unwell, and that shouldn't be acceptable for our country. There was that one moment that was particularly bizarre, speaking of cognitive issues. We don't have to play the clip, but there was the moment where he was asked about people getting killed by ICE. And Donald Trump said, I hate even. even talking about ICE, two people, he like downplayed people's deaths and said fewer deaths than

there's actually been from ICE, but he says two people out of tens of thousands and you get bad publicity. And Yamis was like, there were two Americans who died. And then Trump just his brain, who the hell knows what the hell was happening here. But he's talking about the deaths at the hands of ICE, the murders by the ICE people. And Donald Trump says, responds, we have the smallest trucks. We have been very tough on the waters. And Tom Yamis, the NBC house, was like, what, the waters? We did you say the waters? And then he started, is talking about, oh, yeah, we knocked out a lot of boats on the waters,

just completely veering off topic into something that was so utterly nonsensical, talking about bombing drugboats when he's in the middle of a completely other thought. It was bizarre. And I think you saw, you know, more evidence of that cognitive decline in this interview that was on MSNBC. I mean, that was just like one of many very strange moments. And that brings us to the Senate hearing from earlier in the day. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant is the witness. And let me show you a part of the cross-examination that transpired.

Democratic Senator Gallegos of Arizona starts cross-examining him. Let's just play the first clip of Gallegos. But the president prevails in this lawsuit. He's going to be able to pocket that money. My question is, is the president, if anyone in the president's office, talk to you about this lawsuit in any regard? They have not. And the president has said he will donate the proceeds to charity. You may have missed that. So no one at all has discussed this to you whatsoever. No, sir. And the president said he would have you received, I didn't ask any more questions. Have you received any advice from Treasury's legal division about how to handle this potential conflict?

This is a justice department matter. They represent Treasury in it. Have someone for the Department of Justice actually come and talk to you saying that this is their purview and you need to stay out of it? Or who has discussed to you, what is your role in this? Our general counsel who's sitting behind me has told me that it is a Justice Department matter. The Justice Department depends treasuries and matters like this. Okay, so it has been discussed with you. Do you have any final say at all in the process of this? Or is the DOJ just going to instruct you to cut a check end or settle

and you have no independence to actually make a decision whether or not the president deserves $10 billion? Again, that is a DOJ matter. And so the DOJ will entirely make that decision if whether or not the president should receive $10 billion. You have no say at all. Correct. So you will just have to write the check if you were told to write the check. Correct. And you would write the check willingly if you were told by a DOJ to the president.

I will follow the law, Senator. Okay. I mean, I think for many of us, this is very simple. And I think if this had been happening in any other countries through the book, an absolute like a total shakedown of the American taxpayer. Yeah, who? Because you watch that. you're like, how is this even real?

How is this even a thing? And I think when I show you in the next segment, what was happening in the UK Parliament and how they're addressing it versus how things are being addressed here in the United, or not addressed based on the Trump regime, and Donald Trump's saying, I'm not in the files, I'm vindicated, there's no issue, nothing. I'm perfect.

You know, and then our corporate news is just like, on the one hand, it's denied on the other. It's just like, we, we, have we are living in this really warped and demented timeline here in the united states that is lacking normalcy setting aside politics like basic morality but i want to show that let's just sum up the trump administration's philosophy here they don't have money to help you the average american but they will happily give 10 billion dollars of your money to donald trump while telling you that you should enjoy your one pencil your one doll your one piece of

broccoli, your one tortilla, and you're one piece of chicken, and you will be happy about it. I mean, it's such a slap in the face to people. It is so offensive. It is so grotesque. It is just the height of kleptocracy and oligarchy. It is just detestable. I want to talk more about that hearing. Producers are saying we got to take our last break of the show. So let's go to our last quick break. A reminder, we're close to six million subscriber. So if you want to have me stop saying, let's get to six million and have me start saying get to seven million, make sure you're subscribed. Pretty good offer right there, Ben. You really know how to incentivize people. I've got a great offer for everybody when we come back.

How about I give you a plan each to make $10 billion. And how about this? All of our audience can make somewhere in the range of, of 10 to 20 quadrillion dollars more than trillion. We're in the quadrillions. It's getting real folks. I've got a plan. I'm gonna lay it out there. And actually Treasury Secretary Scott Besant gave me the idea.

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his cross-exam of Treasury Secretary Besant. I loved how Gallego here makes it clear that this money leaves no doubt, that this money is being stolen from the taxpayers. like that this is coming from the IRS general fund, which is where when you pay your taxes, it goes into a general fund account at the IRS. And that's what Trump is rating in his lawsuits. Take it $10 billion out for himself at a time where, as you heard in the other interview, our national debt is heading to $39 trillion.

And Trump is increasing our debt dramatically and federal spending is up and all the stuff that Doge promised it was going to do was a complete. and utter failure. It actually added to our national debt. Let's play the second clip. You know, we kind of touched on this earlier. In addition to being Treasury Secretary, you are serving as acting director of the IRS. So following up on Senator Kim's questioning, so you are fully aware that the president is suing your agency for $10 billion. We would agree, would you agree that $10 billion is a good sum of money? Yes, sir. Where would that be cut from? Let's say for some reason he actually wins that

lawsuit, where would that $10 billion come from? Again, it would come from... Processed, I'm not asking your opinion whether it's right or wrong. It would come from Treasury. It comes from the general fund? The Treasury General Account. So, taxpayers? Yes.

Thank you. Part of the 440,000 taxpayers whose returns were leaked. Now, if the president, they're not suing, but... They're not suing. But this is where I told you, I'd give you a... advice. I just want you to think about why Donald Trump has bankrupted so many things. He hasn't think ahead. And he's a criminal. And he's also a sexual abuser. And he's also an utter fraud. But let's use that example right there. I originally thought I heard best in say 44,000,

but listening to it again, he said 4004,000, I believe. Hundreds of thousands of people were impacted by the same data breach that Trump is claiming injured him personally, he says, to the tune of $10 billion. And mind you, Trump sued the Wall Street Journal for $20 billion. And the Nobel Peace, the Pulitzer Prize Committee, rather, for billions of dollars. And this one for billions of dollars, that one for billion. You add up all of Trump's lawsuits, it's like $100 billion. He's got $200 billion in claims out there, which are all bogus and BS and frivolous in my opinion, those numbers are just utterly, utterly pathetic. It just made up numbers.

But assume he's saying that the damage for the data breach in 2021 is $10 billion, right? So what would stop somebody right now who was also impacted by that data breach to say, I want to be part of a class action of people impacted by the same data breach? What would stop a lawyer from finding the victim of the data breach? breach. And by the way, in these data breach cases, they usually settle for like 500 bucks and you get like data security. I used to handle data breach cases as a lawyer as well. You know, the, you know, when Equifax and all those types of companies, remember like those companies had their data breach, people would get like a thousand bucks or 2000 bucks and you'd get like a data

security for like five years free or something. That's usually how those cases, you don't get $10 billion. But okay, what if you have a good data breach plaintiffs class action lawyer? It says, oh, wow, $10 billion per victim per person, you know, per person. Okay, well, let's have a class action. I'll represent all 4004,000 or 40, let's just say 44,000 because that's what I did the math on. Then everybody's damages 10 billion will file the class action. The Department of Justice is going to have to defend it, right? And they're conceding on the Trump lawsuit that they owe him 10 billion.

Besson said that there's 44, that 400,000 other people impact. by this. Okay, so the class action demand, if it was 44,000 people impacted, would be about 470, whatever it is, I'm horrible, but around 450 to 470 trillion dollars, right? So if Trump sets a precedent that he gets 10 billion, then shouldn't the other 400,000 people all get 10 billion dollars? So now our national debt just went from 38 trillion dollars, which, Trump is responsible for about 30 to 35% of that, and that's going up, by the way, to now in the quadrillions, because now the government's going to have to pay out a class action settlement of a quadrillion dollars or at the low end, $470 trillion, based on that logic, right?

Oh, then you're going to go, well, actually, we're going to fight the class action, but Donald Trump's, we're going to settle with Donald Trump. Okay, well, that'll be an interesting argument for the DOJ to have to make before a federal Judge, hey, Judge, they conceded that this is a claim. So, but do you see how just even doing this has repercussions on everything? You see how Donald Trump's tariffs against the world ends up leading to all the other countries, entering to agreements with each other and cutting the United States out? Right.

I mean, do you see how Donald Trump trying to enrich himself and his Bitcoin company, World Liberty Financial, by giving away our semi-conductor technology? to the UAE ends up resulting both in the destruction of our national security secrets and Bitcoin collapsing as well, you know, as Trump enters the Bitcoin space in such a kind of phony and in my opinion fabricated way. And now Bitcoin is crashing and my view as a result of Donald. Like, do you see how all of his things have the same reaction? And now you have a stock market here in the United States and GDP, which is basically propped up by deal, of AI companies just doing deals with each other.

They are concealing, in my opinion, the debt on their balance sheet by saying it's cap-X expenditures on the on paying loans or paying leases, rather, on data centers. And so they're actually hiding debt by creating these structures that act like their debt is cap-x expenditures. It's all bogus in my view. It's all a Fugazi and the SEC, which is supposed to step in and regulate, they're nowhere to be found. The criminals are getting pardoned by Donald Trump.

And this doesn't actually help anybody because everybody gets screwed by it in the long run. Which brings me to, I just, I know American media does not usually cover what goes on in the parliament of UK. But I think it is telling and important for us to talk about. Before I show the UK Parliament, did you want to comment on any of that? I think you basically covered it all. But I just want to say, if you're a Trump voter out there, what are you getting out of this at this point? Like, you're losing your jobs. If you were a big crypto person, you've lost all your crypto.

You're giving Donald Trump $10 billion of your money. It's like the guy is screwing you left and right. He's scamming you in emails with all these tricks. Is it just so you could like hate whoever you want to hate and feel good about it? Because right now, there is really truly no just. justification for anything. Even if like, well, I'm not even going to go, but it's just like, wake up. Wake up. This guy is a scam artist and you are the mark and you are the ones who are enabling this to continue to happen. And I think that's why though we see Donald Trump's approval

rating right now, even the latest Rasmussen poll falling off a cliff because he actually is starting to lose some of these base voters. Before we get into the clips from the UK Parliament, I do want to give a shout out to people in the UK. I've always loved watching clips of UK Parliament. Y'all get rowdy. You get right up in each other's grill. Like, I would love to be able to see in the United States a president of the United States just get screamed at by everybody around there in Congress. It really is, actually, to me, you know, a very powerful thing to see leaders be held accountable like that in a setting like that. And so, you know, these clips, I think it's interesting to note right now that as we see the fallout from the Epstein files, a lot of

what we're seeing in terms of the fallout is politically speaking is happening overseas it's happening in the UK you have prime minister keir starmer in the UK under fire uh you have uh peter mandelson uh in the UK um he's resigned from his position he's out and now appears to be under a criminal investigation due to giving uh Jeffrey Epstein some tips of information uh from the government before it was actually made public about major, major global affairs and economic policy shifts. And so you're seeing things in Norway. You're seeing investigations in Lithuania. You're seeing Poland speak out, Donald Tusk in Poland speaking out about this.

But here, as I said earlier in the episode, you have the Department of Justice and these Republicans acting like Donald Trump's personal law firm. You are seeing some fallout in certain sex of corporations and whatnot. You're seeing like the chair of Paul Weiss, the law firm, I should note one of the, and maybe the first law firm to cave to Donald Trump. He is out because he was all over the Epstein files. And so we are seeing a fallout like that. But as of now, and I don't expect this to change anytime soon, all these Republicans and the DOJ,

our government structure right now is protecting Donald Trump throughout all of this. Now, Ben, let's go to the UK because these clips to me, I think they're powerful. You also have David Ross, department chair at the School of Visual Arts in New York City, former director of the Whitney Museum of American Art, announced resignation as well. Okay, let's take a look at what was going on in the UK. To be, just so everybody knows the dynamic. This Mendelssohn guy, he was the UK ambassador to the United States. People knew that he had some, or the party that appointed him, the Labor Party,

knew he had some connections to Epstein, but, didn't know the extent of it. And he had some questionable ethical issues in the past as well. By the way, he's in the Epstein files in very grotesque ways, but in my view, not quite as, you know, it's hard to say, which is more grotesque than the other. But I mean, Trump was in it far more than Mandelson, you know, was in it. And Trump was closer for every, Trump says Epstein's a great guy, even the stuff that are in the files that we knew about Trump before, you know, all over. So we know Trump's deep connections to Epstein, undisputed. But now the opposition party, the Tories, in the UK, the Conservative Party there.

You know, they're out there. And by the way, the Tories have their own issues and their own, you know, it's not like they're, you know, free of any kind of corruption and issues. And also, I don't want to lose sight of the Reform Party, Nigel Farage, which is their far right-wing party, kind of working with Russia and as part of a lot of this cabal as well in order to undermine and break down government. So when I focus on the Labor Party, I think it's important, especially as an American talking about politics of another country, that I do so with the nuance it deserves,

that I'm not in any way ignoring Nigel Farage reform party, the right-wing extremist party there, and their links to Putin and their links to try to Brexit, which is what Epstein was also involved in Brexit and talking about how that's going to create opportunities for, you know, this cabal of people. And obviously Farage was a major player in Brexit, you know, for example, as well. So I don't want to talk about it. So anyway, so you have the opposition party in the UK Parliament pressing Prime Minister Keir Starmor for answers and accountability. Hey, Starmer, when you won the election and there's a big Labor Party majority right now

in the parliament from the election that they won. And a Starmor should be relatively, the Labor Party itself based on the seats that they hold in Parliament, you know, should be relatively safe through 2029, which is when the next elections, you know, would otherwise be. But Starrmer right now personally is vulnerable. because what did you know? When did you know it about Mandelson? And that became a big theme. Like, this guy was hanging out with the peto and he disgraced and shamed the UK. So first, I want you to watch as some of the opposition leaders and opposition figures

start raising the issue of Mandelson's connections with Epstein and what did Prime Minister of UK, Kierre Star and when did he know it? Let's play the first one. Absolutely. It absolutely beggars belief. And if we want to, to clean up politics, then this sort of thing should not be being allowed to happen. Politics is a difficult place, we know that, but this was down to judgment. It was down to the judgment of one person, or was it the judgment of others around that person? So I urge the Honourable and Right Honourable Members on the Labour benches opposite. do the right thing this evening.

Stand up for democracy, stand up for Parliament and stand up for decency. Yes. Alicia Kearns. I'm here, Madam Deputy Speaker. Liberation Day. That is how Mandelson described

the day of Epstein's release for prison for procuring children to be trafficked and raped. Mandelson's next message was how is freedom feeling? Epstein replied, she feels fresh, firm and creamy. Mandelson's next reply, naughty boy. Now, we hadn't seen this email, I'll admit, when the ambassador was appointed.

But let's look at what we did know when he was appointed. We knew at that point that he had consoled this paedophile, consoled him on his being found guilty and convicted for just one of the many, many crimes he had committed. We also knew that while he was deputy prime minister of this country and business and trade secretary, carrying the flag of our great nation on an official visit to New York, he stayed in a convicted pedophiles flat. And let me show you this next clip of another by the way, I guess the Epstein people really like using the phrase liberation day. No, it's the phrase that. Oh, absolutely. Exactly. Liberation Day is what we are.

from Trump, all of liberation to, liberation to take a listen to this next member of parliament there. Now, the prime minister was asked today directly, could he tell us, did the official security vetting that he received mentioned Mandelson's ongoing relationship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein? And he replied, yes, it did. Now, the point is that when the minister says he likes it. to the Prime Minister, but the Prime Minister knew that the relationship was ongoing.

So even if he lied about some other aspects of the relationship, cannot the Minister see that the fact there was any ongoing relationship at all with a man who'd been imprisoned for paedophilia and prostitution, can he not see that that was an impossible position today? And finally, let me show you when Prime Minister Kierre Starmer was directly confronted, and he had to stand there and answer for it. And while to me, his answer was not acceptable, and I think that's how most people in the UK feel.

And again, I want to be very clear that it's very hypocritical for the Tories to act holier than now. Like I know that's coming in the comments. And certainly, by my focus here, I'm not ignoring the reform parties. role in Brexit and being part of this whole desire of right-wing authoritarians to topple the world order, create disruption that we talked about. So I just, again, I want to, I need to be very sensitive when reporting on foreign air, especially as an American that I, I listen to you loud and clear. But I want you to watch as Starmer admits to a mistake and says, yes, I was told,

I was lied to, but he didn't, he doesn't deny, no, I don't know what you're talking about. He takes a level of responsibility for it and confesses and says, yes, I knew. And then there's an audible gasp of, watch this. Can the Prime Minister tell us, did the official security vetting he received mention Mandelson's ongoing relationship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein? Prime Minister? Yes, it did. As a result, as a result, various questions,

put to him, I intend to disclose to this House, all of the, the national security, prejudice to international relations on one side. I want to make sure this House sees the full documentation so it will see for itself the extent to which, the extent to which time and time again, Mandelson completely misrepresented the extent of his relationship with Epstein and lied throughout the process. I thought that was important to show you and to share that with you. And of course, here you have Maga Mike Johnson. Let's contrast that to what Maga Mike Johnson said when he was asked by Manu Raju in the halls of the Capitol

about Trump appearing over and over again on these files. Just take a look at the difference. Play this clip. Trump have to answer some questions too. He's been named more than a thousand times in these documents. The president submits to press inquiries every day. Not under oath, not under oath, but he's asked the questions all the time and he answers them. We'll see where it goes.

Brett, isn't that just night and day? Like I said, this Republicans, the Supreme Court, the Department of Justice, everybody here just acts as if they are Donald Trump's own personal defense attorneys. And this is a really serious subject and a really dark subject and not something to joke about. it's horrifying. It is something that demands accountability from those figures who are deemed to be guilty of heinous acts via the files. And, you know, while it's heartening to see other countries step up and demand accountability for their leaders, it's very disheartening here in the United States to see this protection racket that exists around Donald Trump right now. Because this is, like I said,

really serious, really heinous stuff we are dealing with. And it certainly appears that Donald Trump was right in the center of all of it. Absolutely. And what's Donald Trump focused on today, he will agree to remove, you know, blocking important critical funds for New York if you put his name on everything. Trump wants his name on Dulles and Penn Station. And he is as shunuching, consumer, support renaming Washington Dulles and Penn Station after Trump. And then Trump will release the funding for the Gateway Project. I mean, you just see this behavior over and over again and you're like, the hell is even happening.

I'll leave us with some good news. Virginia in their both houses, their chambers controlled by a Democrat, Democrats in both houses now, they put forward a 10 to one map. not only have Democrats now completely neutralized MAGA's effort to rig the midterms, Democrats are actually going to net more seats, it seems, in the mid-decade redistricting. And not only that, what Trump has done in Texas, based on what we saw over the weekend, and Texas State Senate District number nine were a plus 17 Trump district turned plus 14 to Democrat, a 31-plus shift, is by creating five additional Republican seats.

that they believed would go Republican in their mid-decade redistricting. They've now diluted other seats that may have been even safer Republican seats. So now there's so many more seats that have been put down below plus 15 in Texas. So now what Trump inadvertently did is made all these other seats more vulnerable in Texas right now based on the results that we're seeing in Democratic overperformance. And so not only may the Democrats win those five seats that Trump thought, would turn Republican, but now some of those other Texas seats that maybe, say, went from plus 17 or plus 20 to plus 12 or plus 13 in order to then give some of those voters to the blue

districts to turn those districts red because you have to pull from someplace in order to, you know, create a redder district. They may have now created a situation where they just handed even more seats to Democrats as a result. Let me leave you with the Senate pro tempi. Temporie, the leader of the Senate, along with the leader of their equivalent of their House chamber there. Watch this press conference that they held. Let's play it. Give me more seats. Then that's not enough. So he calls North Carolina, Missouri, Ohio. I need more. I need more. Today we are leveling the playing field. These are not ordinary times. And Virginia will not sit on the sidelines while it happens.

We made a promise to level the playing field. And today we'll keep in our promise. Our maps are ready. Virginia is ready. We said 10-1 and we're meant it. And we are proud to deliver a map that stands up for democracy to stand up Virginians, to stand up and give us a horse. He started this mess and Virginia's going to finish it. Virginia to the rescue. Senator Lucas said it best. We've been working really hard to make sure that we got this delivered. This is about leveling the playing field across the country. Republicans are gerrymandering maps to override the will of the voters. We just saw it in tech. North Carolina and Missouri. At Donald Trump's direction, they're manipulating election maps because they know they can't win on their agenda in 2026. So instead of changing their ideas,

they're trying to rig the system. A 10-1 map levels of plan field and we're ready to move forward. They will make a good on our promise by releasing the maps publicly. We're gonna get them released either by the end of the day or early tomorrow. We'll get those maps released. Putting them out in the open and allowing them to be debated

the way they should be in a democracy. We're gonna leave it up to Virginia voters. Maps are ready, Virginia's ready, and that's the bus center that said many times. 10-1. 10-1. Thank y'all. They did say 10-1 the entire time, so hat tip right there to the Senate pro-temporary, State Senator Lucas, and Speaker Scott right there. Who's been on the show. Who's been in the show a lot before?

But also give a hat tip to Governor Newsom with Prop 50 really starting the pushback. And you see when you fight back, you win. Like, to me, that's the less. and that's a good lesson to end on. When you fight back, you win. And we're seeing that, you know, when you fight Trump wanted to hide the Epstein files. By the way, there's still three million files that have not been produced that I believe are far more devastating than what's actually been turned over. But you fight for them. You get leaders who say we're not giving up. You've got Garcia in the House Oversight Committee, Kana, Massey, and others, boom, you get a released.

And what a difference. That's been one of the biggest game changers. Prop 50, biggest game changes. He's got to keep on fighting back with moral, formal, authority, with people power. Brett, I'll give you the final word of the episode. But just think about Governor Newsom's move. Governor Newsom decided that he was not going to take what the Republicans were doing, laying down. And he got up there and he took a risk. Like, there was no guarantee that Prop 50 was going to work. He took a big swing here. I remember all those various pundits on Capitol Hill were mocking him. This is never going to work. Oof, look at the polling. The polling doesn't look so good. If it's like this right now, these usually get less popular as it goes on.

But Gavin Newsom hit the ground. He made the case. He brought this directly to the voters, unlike what Texas did. He sold the crap out of it, and people were all on board, and people now see Governor Newsom as a fighter. He set the stage for these other Democrats to follow in his lead and do the same thing. And he also sent a warning shot out there to these Republicans that you want to keep playing this game. We could keep doing this every single time. And now we're seeing how this whole process of the gerrymandering by the Republicans has backfired.

The Democrats are likely to end up with a net gain of seats since the Republicans started this, whatever you want to call it, this game, this competition, this gerrymandering battle. And Democrats are actually going to win because the Democrats in the states are actually fighting back to Ben's point. And now even the Supreme Court within the past 24 hours or so, they said that we're going to reject the Republican petition to, try to overturn Prop 50. We're not even going to take it up. It was a unanimous decision in the Supreme Court. So you could officially mark it up on the board that Governor Gavin Newsom has defeated the Republicans in this battle. And it should be a model for all Democrats and all people going against this MAGA co-opted Republican Party that is trying to destroy everything we have. That we have to be fighting fire with fighter. We got to be able to punch back. And when we fight,

we win, as they say. Right. And so, you know, if Trump's saying that he can fire everybody without any oversight, Democrats can do it too and we take control of the White House, right? And they could do it to. You know, all of these things Democrats can do it. You know, okay, these are the new rules that you are all creating. Okay. You sure? You know, and they don't think through those things, you know. And, you know, it's time to fight back with moral, formal authority, not because of any political party, but because we're in a fascist situation. We're not in a constitutional crisis.

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