The MeidasTouch Podcast - MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 5/15/26

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

On this episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast, Ben, Brett, and Jordy break down Donald Trump’s trip to China, where he ranted about Chinese food in the U.S. and once again gushed over Xi Jinping even as Xi delivered a stark warning over Taiwan and sought to project a more diplomatic tone. The brothers also examine Iran’s latest moves while Trump was overseas. Back in United States, Trump regime officials were put on the hot seat during a series of tense hearings in both the House and Senate, with lawmakers pressing them on everything from foreign policy to government accountability. Catch up on all this and more! Subscribe to Meidas+ at https://meidasplus.com Get Meidas Merch: https://store.meidastouch.com Deals from our sponsors!  Smalls: For a limited time only, get 60% OFF plus FREE SHIPPING on your first order when you head to https://Smalls.com/MEIDAS Ridge: One thing to pack, five ways to power! Get up to 40% off @Ridge during their Father’s Day Sale at https://ridge.com/meidas #Ridgepod ZBiotics: Go to https://zbiotics.com/MEIDAS and use MEIDAS at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Manukora: Head to https://MANUKORA.com/MEIDAS to save 31% plus $25 worth of free gifts. Done with Debt: Visit https://DoneWithDebt.com and talk to a strategist for FREE. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Donald Trump was talking about Chinese food. Play the clip of Donald Trump saying there's lots of Chinese food restaurant, Xi in the United States. That shows our bond through Chinese food. Let's play the clip. This is many Chinese now love basketball and blue jeans, Chinese restaurants. in America today outnumber the five largest fast food chains in the United States, all combined. That's a pretty big state.

Xi Jinping had a clear goal and objective to make China stronger in the world and assert China's leadership as the major hegemon, Donald Trump's goal to the extent there was any, to look cool next to Xi Jinping in the propaganda videos the White House was going to put out. Donald Trump, who creates these cabinet meetings where he makes everybody. glaze him, became the person who glazed Ging-Ping like he makes his cabinet members due to him. It was certainly a sight to behold to see Donald Trump throughout this public meeting

with Ging-Ping say how powerful you are. What a great leader you are. How strong you are. Here, play the clip. You're a great leader. I say it to everybody. You're a great leader. Sometimes people don't like me saying it,

but I say it anyway because it's true. I only say the truth. Okay, do you think Xi Jinping reciprocated? at all? No, I'll show you what he said in just a moment, but Xi Jinping also had a bunch of little school children jump up and down for Donald Trump in some weird Pyongyang style propaganda thing, knowing that Donald Trump would like that Kim Jong-un treatment, although I think we should probably keep all children away from Donald Trump.

And Donald Trump, though, said, I really love the children. Those children were really, really great. I love to see them next to me. Gross. Play the clip. And I think I was particularly impressed by those children. They were happy. They were beautiful. The military is obvious.

It couldn't be better. But those children were amazing and they represent so much. And I know they represent so much to you. By the way, what do you mean the military was great and couldn't be better? I don't know, maybe the United States military. Just a bunch of bizarre things that he was saying. So what was Xi saying? What was Xi Jinping saying?

He was talking about the Thucydides' trillions. trap and that we've reached a point unprecedented in recent history where the very foundation of the global order is shifting. What he's saying very clearly is the United States is getting much weaker. Its position as the dominant global hegemon has fallen, that China is rising. And like the Thucydides trap refers to the rise of Athens, surpassing the power of Sparta and causing the Peloponnesian war. To avoid the Thucydides' trap, the message from Xi Jinping is essentially, stand down, get out of my way so we can avoid the trap as a new dominant power. In this case, China emerges. So while Donald Trump was like acting like a Xi Jinping fanboy, you had Xi Jinping saying this about the

Thucydides trap. Let's play it. Currently, transformation not seen in a century is accelerating across the globe and the international situation is fluid and turbulent. The world has come to a new crossroads. Can China and the United States overcome the Fucydides trap? Did the Trump regime put out any statements on Taiwan? No, did China put out any statements on Taiwan? Yes, they said, if you dare mention Taiwan, there will be conflicts and clashes. China's foreign ministry spokesperson put out a statement saying how Xi stressed to Donald Trump

that the Taiwan question is the most important issue in China-U.S. relations. If it is handled properly, the bilateral relationship will enjoy overall stability. Otherwise, the two countries will have clashes and even conflicts, putting the entire relationship in great jeopardy. That's the statement of a hegemon. believe that the Trump regime responded? No, they did not. Instead, Donald Trump was outside after those meetings with Xi Jinping, and he was asked. So did you talk about Taiwan?

What did you talk about? And Donald Trump with this blank stare like he just saw a ghost. I like China. I like China. China, good. I like it. China, beautiful. I love China.

Here, play this clip. For your talk, sir. It's great. Good. Good place. Incredible. John is beautiful. Yeah, neither wanted to say anything about...

No, no, no, no, no. One did want to say a lot about it. She put out statements, a lot of statements about it. The other did not want to say anything about it. Let's bring in Brett and Jordy. Hey, Brett and Jordy, great to see your brothers. Donald Trump showed up groveling. It appears that the United States got absolutely nothing.

China got our H-200 chips that they always wanted. Those highly coveted semiconductor chips. China got the recognition, essentially by the United States, that we were not going to interfere with China making statements about its one China unification policy. Nothing happened with these straight different moves. In fact, Israeli intelligence is leaking to their local press that the war resumes next week when Donald Trump gets back because Trump always wanted war with Netanyahu again, just didn't want to ruin the China trip.

So it seems that if we were keeping score, China got everything, Trump got nothing, just like in the war in Iran. Iran got everything. Trump got nothing. But like the loser Donald Trump is, he'll say, I'm the master negotiator. Look what I got. What did you get? Brett and Jordy, great to see you. Midas, Mighty. Great to see you. Great to see you, Ben. Great to see your Jordy. Great to see you. Midas, mighty. And I just want to remind everybody at the top of the show to make sure that you go ahead and add the Midas Touch podcast and all your favorite audio platforms. And as you know, like a month or two back, there was that glitch on Apple. And a lot of people actually got unsubscribe from the show. So make sure you go check it out, make sure that you are still subscribed to the Midas Touch podcast on Apple Podcasts,

Spotify, whatever you use. I mean, what a contrast. I just want to say at the start here that I completely understand when you are invited to a country for talks like this, that you should be respectful of the people who invite you. And so I'm not about to knock Donald Trump for necessarily being respectful to Xi Jinping. You should be, right? That's part of the diplomatic process. But that doesn't mean that you have to completely roll over and give the guy every single

thing that he wants. And what played out here is just, it's so typical with Donald Trump and how kind of dictators throughout the world have been able to play Donald Trump, people who Donald Trump view as strong men, Donald Trump acts like the beta in all of these situations. And when you see him at those tables, Ben, your comparison I think was absolutely apt. seemed like his own staff, how they act around him. Oh, yes, sir, you're amazing, sir. You're such a great leader, sir. Oh, my gosh, you're incredible. You're incredible. And what Xi Jinping was able to do here, I think was actually like a brilliant move because he impressed Donald Trump with the pageantry,

the surface level shit. That's what he knows that Donald Trump likes. Donald Trump likes the pomp and circumstance. He likes the little children dancing for him. We don't have to explore that right now. He likes the military there. He likes that kind of big welcome, even though Xi was not there. And a lot of the high-ranking officials who would ordinarily be there were not there. But Donald Trump likes the imagery, right? That's all he cares about. He wants to look important.

He wants to feel important. And while Trump was embracing all of that imagery, Xi Jinping was basically knife in the guy. Like, Xi Jinping was there saying some of the most ruthless things that I have heard China say to United States President and to the United States in general, that I have seen any foreign leader say, that I've seen China say maybe in my entire life. I mean, for him to make that comparison, Ben,

he is saying to Donald Trump's face that the United States is a declining empire under his watch and that China is the ascending empire. He was essentially telling Donald Trump, get the hell out of my way, this is destiny. and as we cross paths, as the United States is on the decline because of you, and as China is on the rise,

there could either be war, there could be clashes, or you could just sit there and let it happen. Oh, and by the way, don't you dare interfere with our relationship with Taiwan. That was a statement that he was making. And I think the whole thing went completely over Donald Trump's head. You think he knows what the Thucydides trap is? I'm like, absolutely not.

When he is hearing this stuff, he didn't even know that he was being dissed by Xi Jinping throughout this process. But it was just one thing after the next, after the next. We'll get into what Iran was doing at the same exact time that all of this was going on. But you kind of see this coordinated effort by all of these countries, by the United States' adversaries to kind of corner us here. And at the same time, like, make Donald Trump feel good about it because he got his photo ops. He got the dancing.

He got the pump. He got the circumstances. He got played is what he got. Brett, you are absolutely right. What's up, brothers? What's up, Midas, Mighty. It's going to be a big show tonight, y'all. So everybody lock in.

You're so right, Brett. Donald Trump got played like a fiddle, right? He didn't just, you know, doesn't have the cards. He doesn't have any cards, right? He is out of his depth, out of his element, and everyone is out for blood. They know how to work this guy. All these world leaders do. And it's just pathetic that on this world stage,

Donald Trump just continues to embarrass us the ways that he is. He is embarrassing himself. He is embarrassing this nation. Every time he steps onto the floor, every time he shakes another world leader's hands and tries to have a conversation with them, this guy does not know where he is. He is not cognitively there to have these conversations, in my opinion. And it is deeply, deeply troubling to me that no one within Donald Trump's inner circle can stand up to the guy and let him know, hey, you know, maybe let's help you out this time. Maybe let's prepare you a little bit more. Uh-uh.

Every time Donald Trump goes into these things, he is not well researched. He doesn't study up on any of it. And he just kind of wants all the fluff and the pampering, Brett, because that's all he cares about. How can this play to my ego? Me, me, me, me, me, not how can this relationship help the United States? How can we look to help citizens at large? And Donald Trump continues to be a world-class embarrassment.

Trump is up there and he's like speaking about the dumbest stuff, right? And I always found it effective to, like, write Donald Trump's words on paper because when you actually read them and separate them, like it takes on an added effect because it's just a bunch of nonsense. But he's up there talking about China. You're amazing. This is amazing. What a great event. How incredible. The best they've ever seen.

Oh, I love Chinese food. We all love Chinese food. He's like essentially going on a rant, you know. How great is Panda Express folks? We love our orange chicken, don't we folks? I was surprised that the guy didn't ask where General Sal was. You kicked him in the stuff that he was saying. But you have him saying that stuff.

Then you have President G speaking and actually like about very serious strategic issues, speaking about these major diplomatic issues, these major hurdles. And that contrast to me was just like a stunning contrast to see that you could really only pick up if you're watching these two side by side and just are actually listening to the actual substance of their words. Unfortunately, when I was watching what was happening in Trump and Netanyahu's invasion of Iran, I'm watching Iran's foreign minister Arajee, I'm watching Iran's president, Pasechkin, who is a cardiologist surgeon, you know, I'm watching their words. And I understand it's propaganda. I'm not naive to what happens both in war and peace, and I'm not naive to a history of violence and

repression in the Iranian regime. I'm not naive to it. But I'm also, observing how they are handling international diplomacy, how they're handling their propaganda, how they are using leverage points and how they're messaging things. Then I'm watching Hegsth and I'm watching Trump and I'm watching Rubio and I'm watching Besset and I'm watching all of these people who are out there just overtly sounding like the biggest damn war criminals, which they are, but they're just repeating it. We're gonna loiter over you and destroy you and we're gonna rain down hell upon you and our Tomahawks always hit the right target.

It's like, Donald, you're saying the tomahawks always hit the right target? Like, you are aware that a Tomahawk hit Monab Elementary School and killed 160 little girl. Ah, we don't know about that. Yeah, we do. We do know about it by wow, we're still investigating that. And what about the 22 to 30 other elementary schools and gyms and hospitals that may also have been hit by Tomahawks and American missiles as well?

we don't want to talk about that. I'll show you later in this episode when the commander of CENTCOM was cross-examined by Senator Gillibrand about the other incidents other than Monab. This commander of CENTCOM, he first tried to say, there are no other incidents that have occurred.

And then she goes, well, did you investigate any? No. You haven't even looked into any of the other incidents? Why would we do that? Because they're on the first. front page of the New York Times, and we know that happened. We're the United States, damn it. I'll show you that a little later in the episode.

But if you may be asking, well, so what should a president have done? Like, what would Obama have done there? What would have Biden done there? Well, you don't show up if it's going to go down like that. And you spend months, sometimes years, preparing for that meeting to ensure what happened between Trump and she doesn't go down. And if it does go down that way, you need to reinforce to the other side. there's going to be major ramifications.

What you may also do is coordinate with your allies on the sideline of a meeting like that, like do a big meeting in Asia led by NATO to send a message as well. Because guess what? Xi Jinping did. They held a big meeting of bricks nearby in India, making a very powerful statement. As Donald Trump threw in the garbage America's relationship with India, you had the bricks, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, having a meeting there in India, in New Delhi, where one of the main speakers was foreign minister

Araji who had visited China the week before to specifically choreograph what was going to go down both at bricks and upon Donald Trump's visit to China. Mind you, Arachi and Wang Yi, China's foreign minister, announced while they were in Beijing where allies were working together in terms of military, economically, politically. You don't even have to wonder, like, are they secretly helping each other voluntarily, Wang Yi and Iran said it like actually publicly. So we know they are because our intelligence community says they are. But they also are. And as soon as Donald Trump's meeting with Xi Jinping took place, Iran immediately started letting out 30 of the VLCCs, those very large container cargo container ships, the VLCCs and a bunch of tankers as well belonging to China.

So if Donald Trump was going to try to bring up, oh, well, we need to work together in the straight of removes, it allows. Gigi Ming to say, yeah, we really don't need you. Did you notice that Iran has been letting all of our ships through? We've got our deal with Iran, so we're good. And also to show the ineffectiveness of the Trump regime's blockade. And then meanwhile, you had China utilizing its soft power across the world in Europe, in Australia, in other areas, utilizing its development of green energy, clean energy, as a replacement to all of the, you know, oil dependent kind of old energy models. And so China on the forefront of clean energy, which is good for business and good for the world, Donald Trump threw that under the bus.

Another major issue that was supposed to come up at this meeting was an issue regarding someone named Jimmy Lai. Jimmy Lai is Catholic. He's from Hong Kong. He's been imprisoned in China now with a sentence for 20 years. He ran so-called pro-democracy media entities in Hong Kong. China viewed him as someone who was fermenting social unrest, but he was a anti-B Beijing pro-democracy kind of media mogul there.

And back when Republicans pretended to be China Hawks to try to attack Biden and Obama and say that they were so weak, they're so weak on China. Look how weak they are with Jimmy Lai. Look how weak they are with Jimmy Lai. Meanwhile, you had Biden and Obama actually developing big multilateral relationships with South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, other areas, as a checkmate against China's power. And of course, Taiwan, Donald Trump promised in 2024,

just as he promised to reduce inflation on day one, and just as he promised to end the war, in Ukraine on day one and just as he promised to bring down electricity by 50% on day one and all of that. He said that he was going to go get Jimmy Lai out. It'd be easy. I'll just ask she let's bring Jimmy Lai out and I'll get it done. Don't worry. And this was one of these MAGA issues that they pretend to care about, which they don't as a way to attack Biden. And so before Donald Trump even arrived in China, he folded on the Jimmy Lai issue. He was asked in the Oval Office. So what do you think about Jimmy Lai? And then Donald Trump,

Trump's like, yeah, you know, he's someone who's really created bedlam in China. You know, it'd be like if someone asked me to release James Comey, he's a dirty cop. He's comparing Jimmy Lai, who's actually in prison by Trump's idol, Xi Jinping, to James Comey, who Trump wants to do what Xi Jinping did to Jimmy Lai, he wants to do to James Comey, in the United States, and threw Lai under the bus and all of these, you know, MAGA talking points, just total BS. Let me show you the split screen we did

of Donald Trump going on this right-wing radio show you-you-it-show in 2020. And then I'll show you Donald Trump right before he left to China just folding on the issue of Jimmy Lai before even going to China in the first place. Let's play it. There's a guy named Jimmy Lai,

who's very important to America's Catholics to the world's Catholic. He's a Catholic in Hong Kong, and he's, you know, great publisher, a billionaire like you, Xi has him in jail. Do you think you could speak to Xi when you're back in the presidency about getting Jimmy Lye out and out of the country? 100% yes.

Now, Jimmy Lai, you know, he caused a lot of venom. I don't know. It's like saying to be, if Comey ever went to jail, would you let him out? It might be a hard one for me. Does that make sense? It might be hard because he's a dirty cop. But Jimmy Lai is in that way.

But Jimmy Lai, he caused lots of turmoil for China. He tried to do the right thing. He wasn't successful. Went to jail and people would like him out. And I'd like to see him get out too. So I'll bring him up again. Didn't bring him up and comparing Jimmy Lai to James Comey. Just think about this, think about that.

There's a lot more I want to discuss about Donald Trump's disaster trip to China, a lot more I want to discuss about what went down in the Senate in the House of Representatives today. Shout out to Senator Gillibrand. I mean, she did some incredible cross-examination of CENTCOM's commander, Cooper, and she did great cross-examination of Scott Turner, Donald Trump's HUD Secretary, Housing and Urban Development Secretary. There were some other important moments I want to point out there as well. And there's a lot of other topics we have to cover on this episode. So don't go anywhere. A reminder, hit subscribe.

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Happy birthday, mom. Happy birthday to you. Speaking of mom, real quick, quick brother thing. She was cracking up about the knock hockey puck that we were talking about in the previous episode because she's like, you guys made it sound. like you slept with the puck when you guys won that you like had it in bed with you like curled up sleeping with me i was cracking up what she was telling me this because when we were talking about on the podcast i'm like it did kind of sound like that but no one else had called this out we did we did sleep with that i didn't well no we put it on our bedside we didn't like cuddle up with it the way we were talking about no i didn't cuddle for that that's right i mean i didn't cuddle with it

but it would definitely go under the pillow under the pillow no it was why I wouldn't want you to steal it. Yeah, I wouldn't want anybody to steal it. Yeah, if it's on the shelf, you already could come on in and then just grab it. I guess the brothers literally slept with the puck and I put mine on my nights then like a normal person. So I think a big mistake.

Benji, where to next? I was going to say I'll tell you, I'll tell you, probably still sleeps with a puck, but I don't know if that's a transition. Lindsay Graham, everybody. What did? I don't even know what that means. Should we press them, Brett? Should we press Ben?

I'm sure I mean something. Lindsay Graham, you know, one of these people who claims to be, you know, I'm a China Hawk, this, that, and the other. You know, he pretends that Iran closing the straight of Hermuz was just a brilliant strategy by, you know, by Trump. So he was asked on state regime media afterwards. So, like, what do you think about Trump's meeting with China? Like, how do you feel about it? But Lindsey, watch what Lindsay had to say, let's play it. Keeping their war machine going.

Same thing with Russia. If China stopped buying Iranian oil or threatened to do it, the war in Iran would be over. All I'm asking China to do is help us open up the straight of her moves, help us stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon because I think they would use it. Help us in the bloodbath in Russia, Ukraine. Help us, by the way, for those on audio. So it's such a ridiculous scene that was on the television right there. So you had state regime media showing what looks like North Korean regime media with these little kids who were trained to basically jump and celebrate Donald Trump and Gigi. I mean, it's straight out of what South Park once upon a time, you know, maybe still with like mock Xi Jinping for.

And you have a United States president there with G. Like, again, if you wonder like, dude, if they did that with like Obama, you know, or Biden. Biden, like before they'd be like, no, we're not doing like. You would focus on every detail because most American presidents would view that as humiliating. But also humiliating is you have this so-called China Hawk, right? Lindsay Graham out there. Like, all we're asking for is help us China. Can just, just can you help us a little bit?

So Lindsay, was that your plan? That's like, just think about it. War monger, Lindsay Graham with Trump and Netanyahu, you know, who literally foams at the mouth. I mean, there are those photos like, oh, he goes to it. It's like, it's like the guy gets like turned on by, you know, the war. It's freaking weird to see. It's what happens when you don't have the cards, though. And it's what happens in your cornered.

I mean, think about how this meeting came to be, right? Let's just rewind what? A little over a month when this meeting was supposed to happen the first time and it got canceled, well, it got postponed to right now. And why did it get postponed because of the Iran war? And so now we're deep in this war many, many weeks in, far. longer than Donald Trump ever promised the American people that this would last. We are completely stuck. The straight of Hormuz is now fully controlled by Iran. They are working out deals with China and other

nations. And now the United States is as far away from a position of power in this entire scenario as possible. And so rather than actually being able to ask China for help with things, you have people like Lindsey Graham basically getting on his knees and groveling and begging China to help the United States. I mean, that plays into exactly what Xi Jinping was saying at this entire summit, which is that China is the ascendant power right now. And the United States, under Donald Trump, is on the decline. It's a very sad thing to be witnessing. And the fact that a leader of China could say that to a United States president and then just have the United States president praise them for it, I think speaks volumes about where we are right now.

And excuse me if I'm misremembering, but didn't MAGA specifically, like, used to attack Biden for being perceived to be close with China. They would call them Beijing Biden, right? Am I misremembering that? But that was like one of their attacks on former President Biden. Well, all of their things about being deficit hawks and debt hawks and China hawk. They always get the nickname Hawks. And then our corporate news like repeats it.

Like, we're a hawk and you're weak on. There's nothing weaker than what we've just observed Donald Trump do in China. Donald Trump do in Iran, Donald Trump do throughout the entire world. And you think about the Trump regime, what else they're doing. I mean, so think about the contrast here. You have the BRICS nations meeting in India as Trump has alienated India. And Trump picks sides when India went to war, India and Pakistan went to war with each other. And Trump picked Pakistan because Pakistan said Trump should get a Nobel Peace Prize.

And then they invested crypto in World Liberty Financial. And India didn't say that Trump should get a Nobel Peace Prize because India says you didn't stop the war. So you have this Bricks meeting. And then in contrast, you have Rubio attacking NATO aboard Air Force One. So here's Rubio on NATO. Here's what Rubio has to say. Play this clip. The number one state spots are terror.

That's troubling to me. Yeah. The problem with NATO and I mean, and I've been a supporter of NATO throughout my career in the Senate. And one of the reasons why I supported NATO was because it gave us basing rights. It allows us to have bases in Europe that we could use in a contingency like something in the Middle East, you know, where you could have planes flying from some country in Europe and actually protecting our national interests in the Middle East as an example or in Africa. And so when you have NATO partners denying you the use of those bases, when the primary reason why NATO is good for America is now being denied to us by Spain as an example, then what's the purpose of the alliance?

I'll tell you it's a defensive alliance, not an offensive alliance. It's not an invasion alliance. It's an alliance founded on the principle, essentially, of Article 5 and Article 4, which gets into Article 5, which is mutual defense. If one nation gets attacked, all nations get attacked, and the air bases that are across the NATO countries are not intended for the United States to be predatory and to use it to launch invasions with Netanyahu against countries and kill little schoolgirl. It is for defensive posture. It is a deterrent. That's what NATO was created for. But the fact that you're there attacking NATO while heading to China to bend a knee to Xi Jinping while you have the BRICS meeting, which featured as one of their keynotes,

Foreign Minister Aragi of Iran, talking about solidarity amongst BRICS members who have been bullied by the United States. the contrast cannot be clearer. This was Foreign Minister Araghi from Iran, having a key speaking position, being greeted as a conquering hero at India's BRICS Nation Conference. Let's play it. Everyone in this room,

our resistance against U.S. bullying is not an unfamiliar battle. So many of us encounter a slight variations of the same repugnant coercion. It is high time for us to jointly step up and work towards making clear that those practices, belong in the dustbin of history. Today our nations are closer to one another than ever before,

and we cannot ignore the common and dangerous challenge we all face. History has shown that empires in decline will stop at nothing to arrest their inevitable fates. A wounded animal will desperately clow and roar on its way down. Falling empires, a desperate animal will claw on its way down. There's a symmetry between the language there and what Xi Jinping was saying about the Thucydides trap because they're coordinating. They're working as a block, as an alliance, whereas Donald Trump's America First means America alone. You also had a Bucharest Nine conference that was taking place

where Ukraine was involved in that, involving in a lot of Eastern European countries, part of NATO, adjacent to NATO. But the commonality in a lot of these major conferences that are taking place is that the U.S. is not involved. For example, this past week, we also had the U.K. and France set up a conference with about 40 to 50 other countries, not the U.S., to talk about how are you going to deal, how are they all going to deal with Iran? Separately, you have Saudi Arabia talking about creating a peace process with Iran within the Middle East

that looked like a 1970s version of a Helsinki kind of peace process. taunt, if you will, with Iran. And so I think Trump's, you know, America first means America alone plan is, here's what I'm going to do. I'm just going to keep this blockade for show. I'm not going to do anything. Let's let like other nations figure it out. And then if things get really bad, I will blame. And if things get good, I will take credit. But I'm not going to exert or exhibit leadership. That's Trump's, but that's been Trump's whole life. Basically, let things blow up. But, blame people. And if a good thing happens, take credit for it, steal credit. And if a bad thing happens, which it usually does blame, but make sure you personally benefit yourself on its way down.

And when things are going bad, people are struggling. People are suffering. And Donald Trump, as a predator, Donald Trump as a con artist, knows that's when you take advantage of people on their way down. When people are in natural disasters, elderly people, when people are experienced economic suffering, he knows that's when people are most vulnerable to be manipulated. That's what authoritarian have known throughout history. That's what Donald Trump does. So while you have these very coherent, cohesive, united messages coming from the bricks block, from China and its alliance, is well-planned out, well-thought-out, all about reducing American power, you have Hegseth, on the other in Trump's Defense Department, which unlawfully calls itself the War Department releasing

videos like this. Let's play this. Despite what you might hear in the media, America is not in decline. We remain the strongest military power on Earth, but that power requires renewal. And with global threats that are constantly evolving, it's time to make a $1.5 trillion investment, a generational down payment. It's not like the biggest loser thing, despite what people tell you. Yeah, I feel like if you have to say that, uh,

It's a bad sign. If you have to say, despite, listen, I promise we're not in decline, folks. And here's what we're going to do, drop $1.5 trillion on our already bloated military budget. That's outrageous. And also just like as a video editor, it pains me to watch that video. Before I lose my thought, Brett, I'm just going to toss it right back to you. That reminded me of Zoolander, like the brainwashing video that he's like in or watches. Like that, like for the audio listeners, that edit for whatever video was,

just like the most bizarre propaganda that you could ever witness. It was so weird. Relax. Don't do it. Yes. Yes. The prime minister in Malaysia. Malaysia. Now it's it's so, you know, and it's just like offensive to the American people, right? And Ben was saying before too, right? You know, these people have claimed to be deficit hawks and all this stuff. Now they're demanding all of this money for the military one and a half trillion dollars. I mean, what an outrageous number. And that's on top of all the other money that Donald Trump is spending. This administration right now is set to just blow the deficit and the national debt here in the United States by record numbers.

And it's something that nobody is really speaking about. The media tends to ignore that when a Republican's in power for some reason. But when a Democrat gets into power and actually cuts the deficit, even though the debt is still raised, they get zero credit for actually cutting the deficit at all. It's always, oh, look at these deficit hawks. They just give him these names. And I'm sick of like the press kind of fawning over these figures. I think we've seen this.

And I want to just kind of make sure that everybody's in tune with what the media is doing right now, the legacy media with someone like Marco Rubio. They are trying to now sanitize this guy, right? They are trying to hold up Rubio as this is the future of the Republican Party. He did that press conference a couple weeks back. And did you see the press in that? They were like laughing and they were smile. Oh, Marco, you're so funny.

It was embarrassing to watch. But when you hear Rubio talk, he's saying the same things that Donald Trump says, but I guess they think he's saying it in a more palatable way or he's not yelling it and he's not calling people names. But the stuff that he's saying about NATO is extremely dangerous. He is willfully torturing the language. The way Republicans torture the language about everything to try to get to their thing. The way these Supreme Court justices act like they are strict constitutionalists, And then all of a sudden they have this bizarre interpretation that nobody has ever thought about a phrase in the Constitution.

That's what Rubio is doing with NATO. I mean, Rubio is the guy, remember? Rubio is the guy who co-sponsored a bill, what, a year ago, a couple of years ago, that said that the United States cannot, a president, cannot unilaterally take the country out of NATO without a congressional vote to prevent somebody like a Donald Trump doing it. And now he's holding this BS view that they should go along with any sort of war of aggression from the United States. When the United States completely boxed out all of our partners didn't even tell them that we were doing any of this stuff, then once we got in a bind, we're like, please help me, please help me. It's just, it's all a fraud. And Rubio is a continuation of the fraud. And that's why I say for the people who are like, well, you know, once Trump has gone, you know, this all goes away.

No, Donald Trump has created a bunch of little Trumps. He's radicalized his base in such a way that you are going to see this fight to try to be the next Trump, to try to be the most extreme. And they might try to temper their language a little bit and not call reporters, names, or whatever. But you already see somebody like a Rubio who's trying to position himself that way, call for the exact same things that Trump is calling for. Here's the thing. When a Democratic president takes over, this is the cycle that we see, and then they have have to fix it, the firefighters blamed for being the arsonist and the arsonist blames the firefighter.

And then corporate media is complicit in putting all of the blame on the person who needs to actually fix the problem and to fix the problem, it's bloody, it's difficult, it's challenging. And Donald Trump just leaves the mess to somebody else, whereas you should hand off something positive the way Obama handed off something positive to Donald Trump during Trump's first term. and then Donald Trump was able to ride that out and then crash it and then claim basically a mulligan. We shouldn't count the COVID part. Let's just count the Obama glow part and not count the better. That was COVID.

That's not my fault. You're the president. Of course it's your fault. What are you talking about? You said like a miracle it was going to go away. You said that don't worry about it. By Easter, by summer, the curve will be bent. It's absolutely your fault.

And then he was handed by Biden, inflation decreasing, all of the metrics go. in the right direction. If Trump just kept it on auto drive or autopilot, it would have been fine. Things would have been really, really good. But Trump did tariffs against the world. He went to wars everywhere. We saw PPI, the producer price index, which is the wholesaler price. That rose to 6% year over year. That means it's 6% more this year than it was under Donald Trump's last year. And that's continuing to rise. Then you have the consumer price index now up to 3.8% year over year. And that's continuing to rise. When your PPI is showing 6%, it was supposed to come in at 4.8%.

That's what 48 economists or so at Bloomberg thought it was going to be at 4.8%. At 6%, that tells you that the CPI, consumer price index, will keep going up. Because directionally, if wholesalers are paying more, that gets passed on to consumers. So as PPI is likely to hit 657, that means that CPI, what you pay, the consumer price index, will likely be 4-4-2. We will pass 4% CPI, consumer price index, the inflation that you're paying by the end of this year, in my opinion, at least 4%.

I think that will continue to go up. Donald Trump promised on day one your gas prices, your electricity bills, your grocery bills, we're going to be cut in half. He's a fraud. He's a liar. And then they pass on the problems to the next president, and they just say, hey, like a miracle, it's all going to go away.

It's all going to go away. then they're not held accountable for their actions. Hopefully, with the might as touch, now, what we're building here, we're stopping that. We're stopping that not because of a Democrat or Republican or independent. It's because I just want the truth. I want our country to survive. I want balanced budgets.

I don't want there to be this much debt. I don't want to be in endless wars. I don't want to see people not able to afford their groceries and not able to afford homes and not getting paid fair wages for the jobs that they work. I want to change that. that's not being a Democrat, independent, or Republican. That's just called fighting for the truth.

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and exits every let them know we sent you the one thing i just wanted to add to the last segment before we move on brothers is what frustrates me most or like top of the list here is like the trump regime is surrounded by these two types of people right these dumb people trying to play smart and these smart people trying to play dumb and i think we've all come to the conclusion that that rubio kind of falls in that ladder camp right i think it's crazy to see the trajectory of the rubio career and where he aligns himself with now with the modern day Republican Party with, I think, what people used to think of him. You know, I forget who, but it was like one of the Lincoln Project guys that we had on a while

back. And I had asked them, hey, who's most disappointed you? This was like in 2020 or 2021, who most disappointed you with the modern day Republican Party? And right away, Marco Rubio. Like, that was the answer that came out because the guys totally debased himself from the values that at least he had purported to have prior to MAGA taking over. Yeah, I've never seen anything like it the way that well i guess i have but the way rubio has just totally folded and become this this creature you know just to appease donald trump is so so deeply pathetic and troubling but i guess not shocking anymore you know after we've seen over these courses you know the last couple of years it's just absolutely insane to me and rubio who again i think is genuinely a smart person just plays to

like the most evil qualities to appease Donald trump and the dumbest thinking and there's just no logic there There's no they're there right now other than Rubio just trying to appease Donald Trump and keep him happy. And that's so frustrating for me to see. Yeah, you know, one of the things I think, though, that's even perhaps more deeply troubling because Rubio is a political animal who is drawn to power the way a mosquito is drawn to one of those, you know, the neon buzzers or whatever, is Sencom, right? Central Command, the military, which I would always think, look, as bad as Donald Trump is, as bad as, you know, these sycophants around him are, CENCOM will give it to me straight. And I would always hear top military people. And they would say, but Ben, look, we've got the top people at CENTCOM.

We have the top people in the military, the generals, the admirals. They're not political people, okay? And they're not going to go out there and say certain things, but they're not political people. I say, you know, that's at least good to know. Well, I have to disagree with you all now because as Donald Trump has purged the military, as he's pushed out the Army Chief of Staff, the former chairman of the Joint Chief, CQ Brown, some of the other top commanders were forced to resign or quit if they didn't want to commit the war crimes. Lots of people forced into retirement. I mean, we're talking about dozens of top generals, admirals, and other officers. at different levels who have basically been pushed out. I think a message has been sent. You have to be a MAGA general. If you want to stay in power, you have to be a MAGA general.

And, you know, I've seen this guy, I believe, be clown himself. Admiral Brad Cooper, you know, this guy, to me, started out as someone who I look to as, okay, this guy's calling balls and strikes. But I've just noticed over many, many months and over a period of time, he's just become kind of like a Rubio, Jordy and Brett and Midas Mighty. He's become a sycophant. And I think what he did today, frankly, is unforgivable. And I think in normal times, he should immediately tender his resignation. I don't just say that. You know, resign, resign, resign. It's not about that. It's that he was exposed covering up other war crimes that the United States has committed.

and he was called out during this kind of perfect textbook cross-examination by Senator Gillibrand. I remember my days as a trial lawyer. I don't think anyone that I've ever seen, some of the top trial lawyers did it better than what I just observed, what she did, because she was listening and she caught on to the fact that he was covering up these war crimes in real time. And then she said, so let me ask you, have you done any invest? She assumed they did investigations. And then it became clear to her that he was hiding something.

And she caught it. And he was trying to be kind of cool with it. And then she figured out what was going on. Let me show you what went down. Let's play this clip. Have you been implementing all the laws that are required under current law to minimize civilian death? Senator, we have executed every operation consistent with the law of armed

with the law of armed conflict. The subject of civilian casualties is a particular passion of mind. We pay attention to it. We follow all the procedures and have gone above and beyond to, in my case, personally warn the Iranian people of several instances during conflict where they were being potential used human targets. If they've been warned, how did we then bomb 22 schools? There's no indication that we have that has been corroborated. How many schools have we bombed? There is one active civilian casualty investigation from the 13,600. 29 munitions. So how do you explain the publicly available information that 22 schools have been hit and multiple hospitals? There's no way that we can corroborate that. No indication of that

whatsoever, Senator. There's no way you can corroborate or no indication of it. Which one? No indication. Well, the indication is what's publicly available. There is indication. Have you investigated those claims? We have not. Why have you not? If this is a passion of yours, If you believe that civilian casualties are not consistent with the law of war and not consistent with human rights obligations that our military regularly follows with great pride and great diligence, why have you not investigated those allegations when they're publicly being made on the cover of the New York Times?

I'll be happy to take a look at each instance. I would like a report. I would like a report from you, from your team, about whether there have been attacks that have resulted in the destruction of schools and hospitals. And if so, why? And how then last have you managed the 90% cut to the personnel who are supposed to avoid civilian targets?

Happy to provide any report. And I would invite you and every staff member here to come to Tampa to look at the process to see exactly how it works. Thank you. Thank you, Admiral. Yeah, actually, no thank you, Admiral. You tried to cover up a war crime. She wanted to say that, but she kind of held back.

And he starts off by saying civilian casualties, stopping civilian casualties is a passion of mine. And then he goes, there's no indication that these other things happen. It hasn't been corroborated. And she picks up onto that. She goes, no indication or hasn't been corroborated. And he goes, hasn't been corroborated. And she's like, well, have you investigated it? No.

So you haven't corroborated it because you've intentionally not done the investigation. of the war crimes so that you can say that there's no indication of it because you never even tried to corroborate it. And meanwhile, we know that all of these war crimes are being committed in the name of the United States under the red, white, and blue, and they're not even investigating it and they're covering it up. It's truly horrible. It's Trump's plan with everything. That's that, that whole strategy, though. Don't investigate the war crimes. There are no war crimes. Don't test for COVID. There is no COVID. I mean, this is what he does. does. They close their eyes, they put their hands over their eyes, and they pretend that there is

nothing bad happening in order, again, to appease one person in one regime. It's crazy to me, but again, it's happening again. That was a truly wild clip. And I've seen Admiral Cooper, like, I've seen his presentations that they post on the SETCOM account. And the first time I saw him give a briefing on the Iran War, I actually found myself impressed by him. Like, you know, because it was we had seen a hexseth you know all these days go out there and just be clown himself at those insane press conferences and then here you have a guy who is serious who's articulate who you know doesn't appear to be uh lying necessarily about what's going on and presenting himself well in these videos and i was like okay you know i i think all this information is horrible for the

united states but at least like understand what he's saying and he's not being some like mega a douche like Hegset about everything, like he seems like a normal dude. But that right there was truly horrifying. And it goes back to what I was saying before, how they always torture the language, right? They always try to parse words in order to try to hide things. And that's exactly, or to try to get their, what they want to say across or pass their, you know, make their Supreme Court decisions or you name it. And that's exactly what he was doing in that moment.

And there's a broader issue with that, of course. which is that it results in you not being able to believe anything that this administration is saying. And, you know, this is something that I talked about at length on one of the previous episodes, so I don't need to belabor the point here. But if you're willing to lie about something as horrific as that and are willing to just dance around it unless you're absolutely cornered by somebody who's skillfully interrogating you, then what else are you willing to lie about? I'm going to guess a whole lot of stuff.

And the lack of trust that that then instills in the American people who are wondering, was there actually a pilot rescue? Did that actually happen? Did it not happen? They said it happened. But where is he? All of a sudden, you start asking all of these questions for everything that happens. And I think at that point, you can't blame people when their minds start getting a little

conspiratorial. And they are asking all these questions because it's clear that the Trump regime is not telling it straight on any of this. Right. no indication versus no corroboration. You didn't corroborate. Therefore, you didn't find an indication. And you're parsing language where the fact is you're covering up war crimes.

That's what the American people know you're doing. And you're dancing around it by using words like corroboration, no indication. It was like when I read the transcript of Howard Lutnik regarding the Epstein files, where, by the way, he didn't sit under oath. He refused to be videotaped, and he refused, this was a new data point that I didn't realize last week, he refused to answer any questions about his communications with Donald Trump about covering up the Epstein files. He said that's entitled to executive privilege, that Donald Trump and Lutnik's conversations about covering up Epstein is subject to an objection, executive privilege. They made the objection. And when it was shocking.

And so if that was also on videotape, I think people would have been like, whoa, you're not answering whether you covered up with Trump based on executive privilege. But Lutnik said, I was being truthful when I went on that podcast and said that I never had any dealings with Epstein professionally, personally, or in any philanthropic capacity. I was being honest to which the person questioning says, what do you mean you were being honest? you did hang out with him on the island and you did do a business deal with him. You've done all these other things with him. So you did. So you still think your characterization on the show about not having any further dealings with him in any capacity was true? Yes.

What do you mean? Yes. Well, I said I. I brought my children. That's we. So I didn't go, but it was I plus my children and my wife. So we went to the island. I brought other children as well.

We were there. I wasn't personally alone, but we all went. So that's what I was saying. People like, what do you mean I? We, you were there. You went to the island. You're a liar. You're all liars.

Stop lying. Stop being lying liars. And just level with us. You promised that you would end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. And you didn't do it. So stop saying, oh, I've been 24 hours in the future. No, you didn't. You meant 24 hours.

hours from when you were taking office. That's what you said and you and or even before that after the election. You weren't even able to get a ceasefire for 12 hours because Putin refused to return prisoners after Zelensky agreed that he would not attack the parade that Putin did over the weekend in Red Square. Zelensky kept his part of the deal. Zelensky wants a long term ceasefire and Putin unleashed the biggest ballistic missile attack and drone attack on Ukraine since the war began yesterday. While Donald Trump was in Beijing, that's when Putin did it. Why?

Because all of this is being coordinated, damn it. And Donald Trump's out through, oh, Chinese food. You're so powerful, Xi. But I love you, Xi. And you've got China playing a multi-dimensional game of reorganizing global security architecture. And Donald Trump's out there just behaving like a, like an idiot, you know, and a dangerous one.

He's bringing Eric along with him, what, to scoop up more quid pro quo deals. I don't know. I mean, you've got, you know, you've got Elon Musk like doing selfie photos. I'm like, what are we even watching there? And you have, you know, meanwhile, in the background, you've got the bricks meeting, you've got Russia launching its biggest attack yet on Ukraine. You know, Ukraine was able to shoot down 93% of the drones and missiles. That's how good they've gotten.

But that still meant 7% got through. And that caused massive devastation. An entire apartment complex in Kiev was destroyed. You had many, many, many people who were killed there. Wanted to point that out as well. And Trump said, I'd end the war in 24 hours. I want to go back to Senator Gillibrand, though, for a second, because she then cross-examined Donald Trump's HUD Secretary,

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Scott Turner. And all Gillibrand wanted to know was, okay, I understand you don't like Biden's policies regarding housing. But you've made major billion dollar cuts to housing. So if you have done that, do you have a better plan? Can you submit a report to us about what your plan is for housing? Your department is called housing, urban development. Housing is the first thing. So here we are, May 26, we know you hate Biden.

Got it. Understood. You don't like Biden. What's your housing plan? Do you have one? Here, play this clear. And what I will say, and I offer this is, number one, the point in time report in the Biden administration, HUD said we had 770,000, 700,000, people in America that were homeless at one given time. And this is with record funding. So we have

record funding, but yet we have an increase in street homelessness. What is your record? You had this job for well over a year. I just want to know, did you get the number down? Do we have 700,000 homeless still? Or is it a million or a million point five? So I get you want to do things differently. And this committee will support you as long as the goals are good. But where's the results? The report is delayed over a year, over a year. Can I offer this to you? Yes, but we have no. I just don't want to hear about what you don't like about the Biden administration.

You're in charge. You have a vision. Let's see it. Let's see the results. And you know what I do? I thank God that I'm in charge so we can do stuff different because the plays that were ran before I got here, they failed. I've been here.

Let me speak, if you will. I got here. You said I have been here a little bit over a year. But you all had during the Biden administration four years. Stop talking about Biden. Talk about your record. funding and homelessness went up. This is so inaccurate, unhelpful, and doesn't let this committee do our job.

If I may, the point in time report would be out by now if we did not have an unprecedented government shutdown. It would be out by now. If we weren't in constant litigation, it would be out by now. HUD has a great form. We have a great team, and we move very expeditiously. In what way does litigation? Okay, Mr. Secretary, I think you're obfuscating. What way does litigation slow down your report?

A government shutdown helps us to not be able to work. Oh, I get that. But tell me about the litigation. The point in time report would be out right now if we did not have a government shutdown. Irregardless of all of that, during the Biden administration, record funding. Oh, my God. If you talk about, it's like record funding. It's like two children saying, I didn't do it.

My brother did it. That's what I have to go off of. Just explain record funding. your record. Record homelessness. We have to do something different. Switch topic. If after I'm gone, if it's still record funding and record homelessness, you know, after you're gone is too late for the families that are suffering in New York today. Do you know what it's like to be a homeless little girl who has to have a Girl Scout troop just for other homeless little girls because that's all they have?

Yes, ma'am. That's the only consistency they have in their life. So I get, you have a different vision. It's happened in my family. Yes, ma'am, I do understand. I need to know if your stuff is working. I'm not talking to you about what I've heard. I'm talking to you about what I know. And what I do know, the housing first model failed. And meanwhile, you have the Trump family putting out Trump mobile now after not releasing the phone for over a year. They release a $499 device that appears to just be a double of the same T-Mobile wing tech. Revell 7 Pro 5G. You know, by the way, made in China, which they said it's like made in America. And lots of people are saying, whatever this AI thing that you're showing appears to be

just like a T-Mobile phone and an old one that you're like selling for double. And then the Trump regime, rather than respond if that's true or not, they turned off their comments. So, I mean, you have that going on. I'll just, I mean, just so you see, I mean, this is the Trump regime across kind of all disciplines also. I wanted to bring up the phone thing before I went. You have Maxwell Frost trying to ask basic questions of the ATF director, Robert Saccata. And it was like, can you just answer this question? And the guy also wanted to parse the words.

Here, just let me show you this. Let's play. Did you agree to enact any of these regulations in your discussions? Say that again? Did you agree to enact any of these regulations in your discussions before you were nominated? Well, first off, these are proposed. It's just yes or no, sir. Yeah. Oh, sir, sorry. That doesn't answer the question. It does answer the question. Did you agree to enact any of these regulations or put forth these rules or proposals? I know how the process works, Director. So you don't actually.

Yes, I do. No, you don't. Yes, I do. Did you agree to put forth these proposals for rule changes while you were having discussions about your possible promotion? Yes or no? That's it. The answer is not going to be yes or no. So the answer is their proposals, not enacted rules.

And yes. Their proposed rules, yes. where they discussed while you were talking about your promotion, yes or no? Sir, this has nothing to do with my... Sir, I answer the questions. You answer the questions, sir. I'm not going to answer yes or no to a question that can't be answered yes or no. Why can't it be answered yes or no?

Because you're intentionally trying to argue with me here about something that you're completely wrong on. First of all, the regulations are not finalized. I know. I'm saying proposed rules. Because you keep telling me they're enacted and they're not enacted. Proposed rules. You'll keep mixing. Proposed rules were those discussed while you were talking about the possible promotion. Yes or no? They were discussed with no guarantee of any sort of promotion. As you know, the Senate does, gets to make a decision that I'm not involved in.

Yeah. So in your discussions with folks in the administration by your possible promotion, the proposed rules were discussed with them. You're saying yes. Of course they were. I've told you that. Thank you. That's all I wanted. Okay, so you get the point here. I mean, these are, I think the word is sociopaths, but there may be other words for it. And I leave you with this, and I'm not trying to overcomplicate it, right? These are bad human beings. Like these are scumbacks. Like these are terrible people, right? Who do bad things, who lie, who want to see you suffer. These are not your friends. They don't want to be. these are bad humans who delight in your pain and suffering. And then when they're asked very basic questions, they lie and they behave like I'm sure you've known people in your life who you've seen that exact personality trait before. And it reminds you. It may even give you PTSD to see that or hear that and go,

oh my God, I know exactly what that That's who MAGA is. That's what they do. All I want, and I keep on saying on this network, I don't care if it's Democrat, Republican, independent, some new heretofore name that I haven't heard of before, non-political, I don't care, religion, no religion, this,

just be good, be competent, help people, uplift, get results, tell the truth, behave respectfully, with dignity. When you make mistakes, people do. Own up to them. Help others. Be a mentor to people. Stuff like that. Stop the drama. Stop the me, me, me, me, me. Be a good person. Help yourself. Help your family. Help your community. Help the country. help the world. I leave you with that message. I don't know if you would say anything before we go. Good message. It's just it's it's abuser behavior that we see all the time from this Trump regime. It's disgusting. I wonder like do they go some class? Are they taught this?

Is there like a lighting one-on-one? I generally think they are like media trained in some way to behave in this way. And they're taking instruction from the top because there's really not much more, you know, an explanation that there could possibly be because they're they're they always answer all the stuff the same exact way just be straight with the american people uh you know i think ultimately um we need people who are going to actually fight for the values of this country people are going to actually show a spine or have a spine and that by the way that is for the democratic side also right we need people to continue to stand up we need people to continue to push back understanding that progress

is never a straight line there will be setbacks as we've seen there have been many a setback but You need people really now more than ever to get in this, to really say, I'm going to stand for something in this moment. I'm going to stand up to the Trump regime. I'm going to do what's best for the people, not for the oligarchs, not for, I don't even, I don't even know what some of the stuff Donald Trump is doing. So keep that in mind, I would say, I want to thank everybody for watching this episode of the Midas Such podcast.

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