The MeidasTouch Podcast - MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 5/5/26

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

On this episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast, Ben, Brett, and Jordy break down the rapidly escalating chaos in the Middle East after Donald Trump’s latest Strait of Hormuz announcement backfires spect...acularly, with Iran firing on U.S. ships, striking a key UAE port, and pushing the region to the brink of full-blown war again—while Trump’s allies flood the airwaves with “Baghdad Bob”-style spin insisting everything is under control. Back at home, a federal judge steps in to block yet another controversial Trump demolition project in Washington, D.C., as new reporting exposes troubling coordination between the DOJ and former Attorney General Pam Bondi tied to the Epstein files cover-up. The episode also dives into Marjorie Taylor Greene recent speech rebuking Trump, unpacks the real story behind the Spirit Airlines collapse amid soaring fuel costs, and more. Subscribe to Meidas+ at https://meidasplus.com Get Meidas Merch: https://store.meidastouch.com Deals from our sponsors!  BetterHelp: This is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://BetterHelp.com/MEIDAS today to get 10% off your first month and get on your way to being your best self! Wildgrain: Get $30 off your first box and free Croissants for life when you visit https://Wildgrain.com/MEIDAS L-Nutra Prolon: Visit https://ProlonLife.com/MEIDAS to claim your 15% discount plus a bonus gift! Rocket Money: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to https://RocketMoney.com/meidastouch today! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A sudden and massive escalation in Donald Trump's unlawful and catastrophic war in Iran, the Trump regime threatening to send a Navy forces into the Strait of Hormuz, which then leads to Iran striking nearby targets in the United Arab Emirates, the Port of Fujera, as well as two ships in the Strait of Hormuz, a UAE tanker, as well as a South Korean ship. Donald Trump then tries to say, well, you know, places have nothing to do with us anyway and I think the naval blockade is still working meanwhile there is a massive ramp up of military assets right now by the
Starting point is 00:00:40 United States and Israel in the Middle East we're gonna keep you posted on the developments there also Pam Bondi apparently trying to avoid having to sit for a deposition the Trump regime's latest position working with James Comer on the House Oversight Committee Maga Republic and James Comer, is that Pam Bondi will not sit for a deposition. Instead, she will provide an interview, and it's going to not be under oath, and they don't want it to be videotaped, and they want to have a top DOJ official, Harmeet Dillon, be the personal lawyer of Pam Bondi while she's the top DOJ lawyer. I mean, Harmeet Dillon's like the number three person there, and they're saying, well, because it's no longer a deposition, and it's
Starting point is 00:01:29 an informal interview, not on videotape. We think we can do this right now. I mean, folks, this is red flag city right here. We'll break that down. Also, we'll talk about Donald Trump and his regime trying to blame everyone but themselves for this horrible economy. As Spirit Airlines declared bankruptcy over this weekend,
Starting point is 00:01:52 officially the Trump regime rushed to blame Biden. You have the Agriculture Secretary, Brooke Rollins, blaming Biden for beef prices going up. I mean, it's just blame, blame, blame, blame, blame, the opposite of leadership. We'll talk about all of this and more in this episode of the Midas Touch podcast. I'm Ben Mysel.
Starting point is 00:02:10 It's joined by Brett and Jordy. We've got a lot to discuss. I mean, over the weekend, folks, Donald Trump announces on a social media post that America naval forces are going to be going into the Strait of Hermos escorting ships there. And then he says this is part of something called Project Freedom, which they announced last week something by that name as well, which
Starting point is 00:02:33 wasn't actually sending our Navy into the Strait of Hermuz, right? It was working in a defensive way to just coordinate and provide information to like insurance companies that like are insuring ships in the region. And so, but Trump said we're escorting ships. And then so CENTCOM kind of had to like get behind that and said, yeah, that's what we're doing in a defensive way. And, you know, It was creating this escalatory ambiguity. And I think Iran saw certain ship movements from the United Arab Emirates. Two ships, the South Korean ship and a UAE ship, tried to test Iran's control over the Strait of Hormuz. So Iran knocked out these two ships, which was initially denied by the Trump regime.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Then I think there was an attempt by the U.S. to maybe bring some of its Navy ships in. Then Iran responded with warning strikes. and then the U.S. Navy ship pulled away, and then Iran hit UAE's Porta Fujera, where there's like an oil pipeline there that was being used by the UAE to try to send oil around the blockade. And so, you know, that's, we have a video of what it looked like right now that Porta Fujera. So that's where we're at right now. And of course, we'll keep everybody posted as there are more developments happening. Trump's calling this a mini war and saying the blockade is the single greatest. military maneuver in American history. That's what he told Fox, the single greatest military maneuver in American history, brother. Move over D-Day. Donald Trump has all the cards, and this blockade is the
Starting point is 00:04:04 best military maneuver. The world has ever seen, ever, ever, just a clown show day in, day out, and it's so incredibly dangerous. First, I want to say, hey, what's up, brothers? What's up, Midas, It's so great to be here with everybody today, breaking down all the news. You know, I think one of the funniest comments that I saw came from our own Midas Touch editor-in-chief Ron Filipkowski, who when Donald Trump was posting these ridiculous memes throughout the weekend, saber-rattling with Iran, like this one where he showed a handful of Uno cards with wild cards, and he said, I have all the cards. This is an AI meme that Donald Trump posted.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Ron Philip Kowski noted, and Uno, when you have all the cards, that means you have all the cards, that means you're losing. That means you're losing the battle. And so Donald Trump clearly not one to really have any sort of self-awareness with these issues. I just think back to during the Biden administration when every day, I remember last episode we were speaking about how they would constantly be screaming fire and it was, you know, aliens and this and that. There'd always be a distraction of the day. But also, do you guys remember that they would constantly be saying, This is World War III. World War III is happening. World War III is starting. World War III would trend on Twitter like every day when the tiniest things would happen. And now there's a major global incident every day. Donald Trump just lies about it. We spent the entire morning trying to get clarity on what the hell was happening with these American ships and Iran firing on American ships. And the sentcom and the United States government denied it for hours and hours and hours until finally admitting that Iran did indeed. fire on the ship said the U.S. ships fired back. It's really such a shame that we can no longer
Starting point is 00:05:47 trust anything coming out of the U.S. government. But, you know, I think it's our responsibility here at the Midas Dutch Network and as a community to do what we can to break through all the noise. And so that's what we're going to do as best we can. Jordy, it's great to see you. What's the latest on your end? Brothers, great to see you. Midas Mighty. Great to be here. Pumped to get into tonight's show. Look, this guy, Donald Trump, he's an absolute putts. I mean, there couldn't be a worst person, quote unquote, in charge, if you could say he's in charge, in charge of this right now. In this moment of history and this moment of time, he is absolutely the worst person to be at the helm, to be steering this ship.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I'm genuinely fearful of what's going on. I said this weeks ago. I say it a lot during these shows. It's like it's going to continue to get worse, continue to escalate in ways that I don't think we could even comprehend just yet. And I'm not here to make predictions, especially with something so serious. reacting to the data that we're continuing to see every day, and it's deeply troubling. A lot to get into, a lot of news today.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Pump for the show, Brothers, Midas Mighty, let's do this. Benji, where do you want to start off today? Right, when Donald Trump says the naval blockade, the single greatest military maneuver in American history, so your plan to open the strait of Hormuz was to further blockade the strait of Hormuz, and you view that as the greatest military maneuver in American history, while you then make deranged social media posts constantly saying that Iran is surrendering, Iran is giving up, Iran's going to blow up in three days, and then Iran doesn't blow up in three days. The oil pressure and the pipelines is such that Iran's just going to implode. It's going to explode.
Starting point is 00:07:28 We've got them right where we want them. The leadership is in bunkers. They don't even know who their leaders are right now. Their Navy's been destroyed. Their Air Force has been destroyed. They're leaderless. They send us another offer, and it's a bad, And so I'm rejecting it. Iran wants to do. Everything is made up, like quite literally. As I've said, Donald Trump has created, like, his weird version of Game of Thrones
Starting point is 00:07:52 dystopian Trumpian addition. And it's, and it is utterly, like, none of the facts are true, but he casts different characters, you know, in this thing. It's like a weirdo version of The Apprentice. And none of it's tethered to reality. By the way, it's why the U.S. European leaders right now, Zelensky, European leaders, Prime Minister Carney, they're right now, like, being serious, like they're meeting in Yerevan in Armenia, which is kind of a big deal that Armenia is pulling further away from Russia. But there's a big European meeting.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And Canada has been invited. And Ukraine is playing a major role while Donald Trump is out there behaving like a gesture, while Donald Trump is out there behaving like a gesture, while Donald Trump is out there behaving so clownish and cartoonishly weird and it's dangerous. and people are just ignoring it. Like there are serious world meetings taking place. And Donald Trump's been out there. What has he done in the past, what, 48 hours, 72 hours? Well, he went to Florida because there was a PGA tournament at his Doral Golf Club, which was like the lowest energy, worst attended PGA tournament, like in PGA history.
Starting point is 00:09:02 So Donald Trump goes there on the taxpayer a dime. He holds like a press conference at the villages. in a high school there in front of a group of senior citizens where Trump's like, I'm not a senior citizen. And then he holds another event at like this Palm Beach club near Mara Lago. And at these Florida events, he's like making weird noises. He's doing that thing where he goes like, and it's very weird. I mean, and by the way, Iran's watching this.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Like they're posting this on social media and saying, you got to get this guy help. Like he's a deranged man. Iran's posting this video. Here, let's play this clip. Come on, darling, the mother's screaming like, darling. I love you, darling. Oh, mom, I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:09:49 You know, and one of the things that Iran has been calling the U.S. out for is that they've said the powerful United States Navy has now become a bunch of pirates. And Iran's been saying this since Donald Trump did this naval blockade, because Trump will brag. The U.S. Navy just took over a cargo ship. that we believe is linked to Iran and then like they'll release video of it. Meanwhile, there's still a lot of Iranian ships that are getting through this blockade. But like the US Navy is bragging about taking over cargo ships that are like that, yes,
Starting point is 00:10:25 they're affiliated with Iran, but they're like companies. Like they're like company cargo ships like bringing over like products over to China. And like the Navy's bragging about it. And Brett, you gave and Jordy, you guys were talking about the beginning. beginning of this episode, like actual American military victories where the Navy's done incredible things. Like to use the Navy as a bunch of pirates taking over cargo ships, it's a weird flex to brag about.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And Iran would say, you're behaving like pirates. You're behaving like pirates. So what does Donald Trump do on while he's in Florida giving these speeches? He goes, oh, I guess you can say we're pirates. We're like pirates, like as though that's a good thing that like the power of of the U.S. Navy is now pirates. Here, play this clip. And there was no response.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Turn your ship around. Evacuate your engine room immediately. And you see all these guys running out of it. Now, they're five miles away. And one shot into the engine room, blew up the engine room. The ship stopped. They used tugboats. And then we landed on top of it.
Starting point is 00:11:34 On top of everything else, we then land on top of it. And we took over the ship. We took over the cargo. took over the oil. It's a very profitable business. Who would have thought we were doing that? We're like pirates. We're sort of like pirates. But we're not playing games because, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:51 for 47 years Iran has been pushing everybody around. Iran takes that video and they say, ha, look, you see, he's admitted that they're pirates and they show that to their people and say, look, this is what America's bragging about, piracy. I mean, the words of the United States president matter. It's one of the things that when King Charles visited, He actually said in the joint session of the House and Senate, it was a message directed at Trump,
Starting point is 00:12:15 which is the words of the United States still matter. And so words need to be picked very, very carefully. And Trump is so reckless with his words, his behavior, his conduct. It is such an utter lack of leadership right now that it is causing this massive global realignment in a very short period of time. It's on fast forward. So then today, Donald Trump crashing out in the White House after. after all of the updates that I've talked about,
Starting point is 00:12:43 the massive escalation taking place, right? From over the weekend, Trump talking about this Project Freedom thing and that we're going to be sending the United States Navy to escort ships. And then U.S. officials always have to like, they go to the press. Actually, this isn't what this is about. What this is really about is just helping insurance companies
Starting point is 00:13:03 and ships, you know, find out the latest updates about when the Strait of Hormuz might be open. And then there was, again, this escalatory ambiguity because Trump's words are so reckless and careless. And Trump says we're going in. And then CENTCOM publishes that we have ships that are in the Strait of Hermuz. And that's not, that didn't happen. But they say we've got ships in the Strait of Hermuz. And we were escorting ships out and things are going great.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And so Iran sees this. Iran sees some movements happening from the UAE. And that's why Iran says, okay, I guess, you know, we're going to strike the. Porter for Jera, because if you're making moves there, we got to make sure that, you know, that we neutralize any way to circumvent the naval blockade. Two ships challenged the block, you know, to Iran's control of the trade of removes. That's why Iran hit the South Korean ship and the UAE ship. So a lot of very serious things happening.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Iran's leadership are sending stern warnings, you know, basically saying, we control it. You know, we're going to unleash, you know, things like you've never seen before in the war. We're ready to go. We're ready to go. I mean, you have, you know, over here, for example, the head of Iran's National Security Commission and the Iran Parliament, literally saying warning. Any American interference in the new maritime regime of the Strait of Ramos will be considered a violation of the ceasefire. The Strait of Ramos and the Persian Gulf would not be managed by Trump's delusional post.
Starting point is 00:14:31 No one would believe blame game scenarios than one of Iran's other top military leaders and spokespeople were saying the element of surprise is no longer a secret. It has become a reality knocking at our doors. Expect an earthquake that will wipe out years of arrogance in a matter of hours. Tonight, perhaps, a new chapter of power will unfold. One, the adversaries have never witnessed before. Now, so that's what they're posting. Let's show Donald Trump's post as I'm like, eh, you know, at the end of the day, these are just like other countries. It's South Korea. Maybe South Korea needs to be the one who steps up. And they should maybe, join the war with us, South Korea. This is an opportunity for you to join Trump Post. Iran has taken
Starting point is 00:15:14 some shots at unrelated nations with respect to the ship movement, Project Freedom, including the South Korean cargo ship. Perhaps it's time for South Korea to come and join in the mission. We've shot down seven small boats, or as they like to call them, fast boats is all they have left. Other than the South Korean ship, there has been at this moment no damage going through the strait. And he says the chairman of the joint chiefs and Hegson, they're both going to be speaking to the American people tomorrow, likely to just spread more lies. But that's already false.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Seven ships were not hit by Iran. That was another lie. I mean, Trump just has to lie about literally everything. A UAE ship was destroyed, and the UAE announced that. The Porta Fajara was hit and the strike on that area, again, which is very strategically important, because the UAE was using that specific location to try to get oil through pipelines to circumvent the strait of Hormuz.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Well, the fire there is worse than what we've seen any other strike thus far against that same Port of Fujera, even in March when we would say the hostilities were at its peak. And then so, you know, Donald Trump speaks in the White House today. It was some weird small business forum where Donald Trump claimed we brought in 18. or $21 trillion and nobody can believe how much money we brought in. Things are amazing. Everybody's rich. That's what they go.
Starting point is 00:16:40 By the way, this ties into what we'll talk about in a little bit with Spirit Airlines, which is if you're saying you brought in $18 to $21 trillion, you're saying you couldn't do a $500 million bailout for Spirit Airlines. I mean, let's just use some basic logic, folks. If you're saying we're in a golden age, nobody can believe how great we are. Prices are down and things are amazing. Why the head of Spirit Airlines say that the reason they would, bankrupt is because the jet fuel prices have basically doubled and they can't afford the jet fuel
Starting point is 00:17:08 prices. Why are you blaming Biden? You're the guy who says lower prices, golden age, $18 to $21 trillion here. So you're the guy bragging about that stuff. So why are these companies going bankrupt? It's because Trump lies about everything. But anyway, Trump's giving this address in the White House today. And what does Donald Trump talk about? Well, all eyes are on the White House, right? And I'm sure even the European leaders who are in Yerevan in Armenia, they're like, okay, what's this guy going to be talking about? Because it's getting real, you know, are we going back to, you know, open hostilities again? What's happening right now? Donald Trump takes the podium and he goes, folks, I have an important announcement. I kid you
Starting point is 00:17:54 not. I have an important announcement to make. I've taken multiple cognitive exams and I can identify squirrels. Squirrels. Play the clip. You know, one of the things I said is that we should have, in my opinion, anybody running for president or vice president
Starting point is 00:18:13 should take a cognitive test. And no president has ever taken one except me. I've taken three of them and I've aced each one. One in the first administration, two over here. And whenever they get a little sassy, like, does he still have?
Starting point is 00:18:29 it. Does he still have what it takes? I say, all right, I'll take another one. And they are hard. There are many people in this room. I know that it's smart. They're not going to ace them. There are many people standing back there. The fake news media, I'd like to have them. You know, the first question is very easy, and they always show the first question is you have a lion, a bear, an alligator, and a, what's another good, a squirrel, okay? Which is the squirrel? So they show that question. And then the first four or five questions are they get a little more difficult. By the time you get to the middle, they're tough.
Starting point is 00:19:07 All right, we get the point. But just so you know, he's been due since we always know he talks about the cognitive exam stuff. But when he was in Florida, in the two speeches, he brought it up multiple times. Today, it wasn't just that one instance. There was a good seven minutes of this speech, maybe longer. He was talking about cognitive exam. I'm just going to show you a brief point. portion in Florida, just so I can bring the receipts.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So you know, this isn't any slight of hand. This isn't like this is what he's been talking about consistently. I'll just play it for a short, a short clip of it. It goes on and on and on. But you're just in Florida. What was he talking about? Let's play it. I took three of them, aged all of them, by the way.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Okay, we don't need to hear any more of that. But, and they clap for him. They laugh and they clap for him. You know, both in the White House, they thought that was like funny. And then over there, you know, in Florida, his crowds are much, much smaller. I mean, he's playing small high school gyms at this point. But he's packing small high school gyms of about 400 people. And they like, they like love it.
Starting point is 00:20:12 They love it. Oh, he's hard though. I mean, can you identify a squirrel out of all those animals? I mean, that sounds like a very difficult thing. What is that? Which one's the tiger? Which one is the elephant? Which one's the squirrel?
Starting point is 00:20:26 This is very hard. Why do they keep giving me these examples? I don't know. It must be because I'm so smart that they're giving me the exams multiple times a year to test for dementia. That must be it. Have you guys heard my plan, by the way, to lower the national debt? Because I think this is a pretty foolproof strategy.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I was getting some good motion on this online when I pitched it. But my plan is, you know, he loves talking about these exams, the cognitive exams, how good he is it taking it. So here's what I'll say, okay, Donald, I want to see it. I mean, you're apparently the best at it. And I think the entire country deserves to witness your greatness in this area with the cognitive exam. So let's do the cognitive exam live. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:07 We could even host it on the Midas Touch network. Okay. We'll do a pay-per-view kind of style here. People will pay to watch this. And we, I think, could solve the national debt in one full swing right here by having people pay to watch Donald Trump, take the cognitive exam live. And let's just see how you do. I want to see you identify that squirrel, okay? I want to see you identify that elephant.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Show me your best, Donald. Let's actually see what is going on here. It is so insane that this guy just rambles and rambles and rambles and rambles about this. It would be insane if we were in peacetime, but it's especially deranged when we are in a time of war right now, whereas Ben said the entire world is looking at his words and is looking at what he's going to say and looking at what he's going to do. and they just see this idiot, this idiot there who has no idea what he is doing. And I've just never seen, frankly, a president looks so weak on the global stage.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I mean, Ben mentioned that the post before of Donald Trump asking Korea to get involved, South Korea to get involved in the war. You know, please, South Korea, please. Maybe this will convince you to join us, right? I thought you didn't need anybody to join you. Now you're begging South Korea. earlier Scott Besant was on TV, Treasury Secretary, and he was like, well, maybe China will do the right thing and they'll step up and they'll help us out with the Strait of Hormuz. When you're asking China to join you in this effort, I think that pretty much shows, proves that you are losing this thing badly, badly.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And you look like absolute clowns. You are showing your weakness and you are showing just how desperate you are. Absolutely. Absolutely B. And look, Donald Trump, MAGA, acing a cognitive test is not the flex you think it is. It's just simply not. We're still talking about cognitive tests. I mean, we're still doing, he's still doing this bit. It's crazy to me. And just the lack of any self-awareness here, like, yeah, Brett, to your point, hey, maybe it's odd that I'm taking a couple of cognitive tests per day. That should be, you know, I don't know, maybe a red flag. or five red flags, this is an issue.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And the issue is that's the president of the United States right now. That man right there that goes into the high school gymnasium size crowds and brags about his cognitive tests during a time of war. During a time when there are literal lives on the line for our troops, for many people around the globe, and Donald Trump, every step of the way is embarrassing us. Is embarrassing the country is embarrassing us as individuals and, you know, like, unwillful participants in whatever Donald Trump is doing,
Starting point is 00:23:56 we get associated with because of just how chaotic and with zero sort of a strategy is implemented behind MAGA and this entire regime. Look, there is zero plan. There is zero tact. And there is zero idea and actually thinking of what is going on behind any of the moves that he's making. That's why everything feels so disjointed. That's why he'll say something and then Sankham will say something.
Starting point is 00:24:19 and then Sencom will say something else, or he'll say something, then HexS will say this. They don't have a plan. They simply don't. And the issue with that, again, is that there are lives on the line. There's monetary issues on the line. The economy is on the line. And the guy that's bragging about identifying a squirrel, that's who's in charge. It infuriates me in such a way to where I just think, like, five, 10, 15 years down the line
Starting point is 00:24:47 when we're able to sort of like reclaim hopefully, right? this pro-democracy-like love of this country, is how are they even going to teach this? Like, how are you even going to quantify this individual because it's just so utterly absurd? And I'm not saying absurd in like a funny way, right? Like, this is really dangerous and despicable shit that we see day in and day out. And it leads to just mass chaos and us, the United States, being embarrassed globally. Well, look at Treasury Secretary Scott Besson to, you know, by all accounts, previous, was a smart guy, an accomplished guy.
Starting point is 00:25:22 He joins the Trump regime. He becomes one of the biggest sycophants. And he's like, what should be known is that we control the Strait of Hamoos. We control it. We got it. It's ours. We control it. Here, did you see him?
Starting point is 00:25:38 Did you see him earlier today? Let's play that clip. What's level set here? I think the Iranians are starting to believe their own propaganda. And just to be clear, the leadership is the hunkered down in bunkers all over. bunkers all over the country and you know I don't think they know what's going on but what is going on is that you know they're reduced their Navy is not a Navy anymore it's a band of pirates they are trying to cut off international freedom
Starting point is 00:26:03 of navigation through the strait of hormones and the US is opening that up this is a humanitarian effort I can tell you two weeks ago was IMF World Bank Week in Washington and I had numerous countries come up to me some of of the poorest, some of the most vulnerable, and ask us to do this because it's not only energy that's in there, it's fertilizer, it's food transport, it's LPG for more than the billion plus people in India used to cook. So we are saying the Iranians do not have control of the strait. We have absolute control of the strait. We have blockaded the ships going into or out of Iranian ports. Their economy is in freefall. And everyone says they have
Starting point is 00:26:48 the high tolerance for pain well their soldiers will not have a high tolerance for not getting this guy's wrong about everything who controls the strait of her moves we don't control the straight of her i don't know how you even get up there and you lie with such uh uh yeah yeah we we control we don't control no and you whether it's him whether it's lutnik i've never seen jeffrey epstein again after 2005 the lutnik is just getting better with each episode. It's like, well, you were, the files, they show that you were on the island, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 But you just said that you never saw them since 2005. I didn't say that. Okay, so you were there on the island, yeah. Why? I brought my little children with me. You brought your children with you to Epstein's on. Yeah. And I brought my friends' children's with me also.
Starting point is 00:27:47 We like it. We like to bring our little children. little kiddos to the island. You brought your kids to the island. Yeah. Donald, are you hearing what the guy's saying? Yeah, of course, you know, he loves to bring his kids. Everyone wants to bring their kids to the island.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Bondi, are you going to go and testify now? Nope, I'm no longer the AG anymore. I'm done. Trump fired me. You know, that still means you have to testify. Comer, you're going to allow her not to testify? Well, actually, we're not going to do a deposition anymore. We don't do depositions anymore in these houses of representatives,
Starting point is 00:28:23 but we don't do depositions anymore. We do informal gatherings, no video informal. Yeah, but you did the deposition of Hillary Clinton. Well, Hillary Clinton was all over the files. No, she wasn't. She was not in the files. She was never in the file. Biden, Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Biden. I mean, these people are literally sociopaths. That was my end scene right there. When we come back, I want to talk about that. more and we'll show you specifically as well what they're doing with bondi right now like well all of this is taking place what's going on in the domestic front is Donald trump is killing our economy as uh bondi miss uh the tao is 50 thou that no it's not it's not 50 thou but you know where the dow the dow should not be a metric of anything but if they just let biden's economy roll on i know they
Starting point is 00:29:12 love the dow in their stock market as a metric the doubt would be naturally like 70,000 right now if they literally just did nothing and let Biden's economy roll. And they did it. And they've destroyed that. They've destroyed more significant. I still don't know why the Dow hitting 50,000 means suddenly you don't have to prosecute sexual predators and files. I didn't realize that was the threshold.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Why is she even saying that in the hearing? It was a logic games on the LSATs. I know the Trump regime is going after the American Bar Association and the standards for LSATs. But the logic game is if Dow 50, thou, no. no sex trafficking investigations into the administration. A plus B equals C. We'll be right back after our first quick break.
Starting point is 00:29:56 It's Biden fault. Therefore, it is Biden's fault. Exactly. We'll be right back after our first quick break. A reminder, make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel right here. Hit subscribe. Also, if you want to become a member of our YouTube channel, get access to the special podcast we do just for members.
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Starting point is 00:34:08 Wildgreen, man. They've been a sponsor for a while now. Big fans of Wildgreen. Definitely check them out. This is a deep cut. Benji, before I throw it back to you. Do you guys remember like that internet clip of the guy that goes around from time to time, he goes, murder, what murder? Anyway, it reminds me of Comer when he talks about depositions. Now, it's depositions, what depositions? It's just- I think that clips from like 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:34:30 But you know the clip I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, classic. A classic. I watch it every time it comes up in my feed. Classic. All right, Ben, do you know the clip? Yeah, and I know the clip.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, and I know the clip. Were they talking about John Gotti Jr. in the community? And they were saying, what you can do about? Gotti and he's been accused of murders and then the person, I don't know what murder, what murder was either that or the Gambinos, but you know, it was God, it was the Gotti. It was the Godi. All right, let's, let's jump in.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I want to talk about a few things. I want to talk about the Bondi situation because I don't think what's getting attention about the Bondi situation is that Harmeet Dylan, who's one of the top people at the DOJ, she runs the Civil Rights Division, but she's like the number three person at the DOJ as an assistant attorney general. And she's one of the frontrunners if Blanche doesn't become the attorney general, he's acting attorney general for her to become the attorney general. Lots of people think that she's kind of quietly in the position to actually be the next attorney general because Blanche couldn't make it through a confirmation hearing. So a lot of people are focusing on the fact
Starting point is 00:35:35 that it's now been announced that she likely will be serving as Bondi's personal attorney at this May 29th deposition of Bondi coming up. What I think is not being paid enough attention to is what I just said was technically inaccurate that it's actually not a deposition even though she was subpoenaed for a deposition because Comer has now said it's just going to be an informal, basically transcribed interview so you don't get sworn in under oath. And James Comey wants it not to be James Comer, not Comer. We'll talk about Kogakomi in a second.
Starting point is 00:36:13 James Comer wants it not to be videotaped. So the MAGA Republicans, Trump, Maga Mike Johnson, they've worked to say, Bondi does not have to testify in a deposition under oath and no video. Now, as the fact that Republicans have the majority in the House still, though a slim majority, the House Oversight Committee is run by the Republicans. So they have the ability to make the call,
Starting point is 00:36:47 and Democrats can't overrule it, whether it's a deposition or a transcribed interview. And Comer and Trump and Maga Mike have decided she will not testify under oath. So let me be clear. Pam Bondi will never be sitting for an under oath deposition so long as Republicans control the House. That's not happening. What she will be doing is a transcribed interview, not under oath.
Starting point is 00:37:14 So there's no implication if she lies or doesn't answer questions because it's not a deposition. There's no oath administered. And they want to do it so it's not on video at all. And you can't see her mannerisms. Now, when Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton said, look, we're open to do a deposition, but why don't we start with the transcribed interview? Let's start with the interview. because if you think we know more,
Starting point is 00:37:38 then bring us back for a deposition. But why don't we start with a transcribed interview? James Comer, Maga Republicans, Maga Mike Trump, they said absolutely not. You don't get to actually get real authentic information unless it's a deposition under oath. So the standard and the precedent, and also frankly, common sense is that Pam Bondi,
Starting point is 00:38:01 who's at the center of all of this, should have her deposition taken. And it should be under oath. and there should be a video. Frankly, it should be a hearing. It should be a hearing in front of the American people. Damn it, they're covering up a child sex trafficking ring. What are we talking about here?
Starting point is 00:38:19 And Trump, Comer, Maga Mike have all worked together with Bondi in order to ensure that she will never have a under oath deposition taken. Now, that should be the headline. I'm okay with the headline also being, whoa, whoa, whoa, and you're telling me that Harmeet Dylan, who's a top DOJ official, who used to run a private law practice, that she's now going to be serving as the personal attorney of Bondi, the former attorney general, and the new person who may become the attorney general, you're a private lawyer. I thought you're the top person at the DOJ.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Doesn't the DOJ have rules against that? They do. except the rules say depositions. This is now an informal gathering. So if it's in an informal gathering, Trump and Comer and Maga Mike are based, and the DOJ, we could do whatever we want. It's not a real deposition.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Well, it should be a real deposition. What are we talking about? Of course, it should be a real deposition. So to me, the bigger story here is, I don't even know why this even goes forward, frankly, unless it's a video deposition. it's a video deposition. And I think that's where the people should be pissed about. So the Democrats sent a letter to James Comer saying exactly what I just laid out right there, that they're
Starting point is 00:39:46 concerned that this isn't a deposition anymore, that it's a transcribed interview, so it's not under oath, that you have Harmeet Dillon, a DOJ top official saying that she's now acting as a private lawyer, like a private citizen. No, you're the top of you. Choose your path. If you want to be the top private lawyer, you know, a private lawyer, be a private lawyer. If you want to be a DOJ official, be a DOJ official. But we're going to do both. I mean, and think about the implications there. And the Democrats are saying this has to be videotape.
Starting point is 00:40:19 What are we talking about? Now, the Republicans control the committee because they control the majority. So we just have to get out the word about what's happening. I don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican. This should make you live it. By the way, do we have the clips? There's two clips I want to show you of Marjorie Taylor Green. I did a whole video on this.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Marjorie Taylor Green was speaking in Texas at Ron Paul, Rand Paul's dad, Ron Paul's Institute, Republicans, Libertarians. And Marjorie Taylor Green was invited as the keynote there. Big crowd. She got a standing ovation. And let me show you what Marjorie Taylor Green was saying. And what I'm saying right now, yes, Trump has his maga cult. Trump's approval right now is what? 30 to 33% nationwide among independence and Democrats.
Starting point is 00:41:07 It's like beyond, you know, it's paid obviously Democrat Trump's approvals like 3%. I don't know who the 3% of Democrats are who prove it Trump. I'm not sure they understand the question that's being as whenever I see that. I think he's John Federman. He's a big guy. So more percentage points. I guess. But here's a Marjorie Talley Green said.
Starting point is 00:41:25 In no specific order, let's play the first clip of Marjorie Talley. It doesn't matter what you do. So, wow. when we started talking about releasing the EFSIEN files, I'm like, this is a no-brainer. President Trump will just roll them out on a big cart himself, stacks and stacks and stacks of the Epsine files, because obviously Bill Clinton is all in there.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And Hillary Clinton, that's what I had been told all along, right? Well, it was the most shocking thing when I sat in a conference meeting, and I learned that the president didn't want to release the EPSN files. I was like, what? Yeah, come to find out he was very much against it. So we kept on trying and kept on talking about it, and then the president told Mike Johnson,
Starting point is 00:42:12 no, do not bring that resolution to the floor for a vote. He told the rules committee, and Johnson told the rules committee, no, you will not mark up any bill in the rules committee that will allow the Epstein files to be released. And the resistance built and built and built. He told Pam Bondi, don't release the upsine files.
Starting point is 00:42:32 He told everybody, don't release the upsine files. So we persisted because that's what we promised. That's what we campaigned on, transparency and accountability, especially to pedophiles. How is that complicated? So it got to be such a gigantic amount of resistance coming from the president and the speaker and everyone, the DOJ, I said, Fine. I'll do the unthinkable. I'll go over there and I'll sign my name on a discharge petition that all the Democrats are signing their name on.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Talk about crossing the aisle, me, a general in the MAGA army, crossing over to sign my name with a bunch of Democrats? Yeah, I did. Because women were raped when they were 16 and 14 years old. and he was a convicted pedophile and we knew there were many with him. So I signed my name on the discharge petition. Oh, did I get my name on the naughty list then? Let me tell you. That became a real issue at the White House. She went on to say the following.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Let's play the other one. Because this crosses party lines. It crosses, as a matter of fact, it crosses all the lines. When it comes down to victimizing some of the most innocent people, in America. These were young girls that were teenagers that desperately wanted to be models one day. They wanted to be seen as beautiful. They wanted to be rich. They wanted to be famous. And of course, every teenager wants things like that. And they were victimized by Galane Maxwell and others. And they were victimized by the richest, most powerful men, not only in our country, but in the world. And they
Starting point is 00:44:21 were used by Jeffrey Epstein as sexual tools for his own satisfaction and his friend's satisfaction. To actually be asked by the president of the United States to back off and not help these women, that's when MAGA died. That's when the entire thing shattered for me. Right. And, wow. Yeah, it was actually a very powerful speech.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I played most of it in this video I did about that speech over the week. But when Donald Trump and James Comer and Maga Mike Johnson, while Congress is in recess right now, while they're not working, right, they sent everybody home, while their focus right now is to ensure that Pam Bondi doesn't sit for an under oath deposition and that it's not on video that that's actually their position. I'm not being hyperbolic. Like, that's literally their position. As it relates to the DOJ's hand.
Starting point is 00:45:21 of a child sex trafficking ring. If you're Bondi or someone involved in that investigation, you should want to testify. You should want to give speeches about it. You should want to do what Marjorie Taylor Green doing, going around the country, talking about how she's fighting for survivors, right? Like, you should want to make that part of what you've done to give back to how you've used your public service to help.
Starting point is 00:45:48 So it tells you every, you everything you need to know that instead of wanting to talk about what they did to help the survivors, all they want to do is hide and cover up what they did to the survivors and how they've worked to protect the individuals who were the perpetrators in the Epstein files. And by the way, there was a moment that happened the other day where Todd Blanche was asked by the press, why are you ignoring these Epstein survivors? Why don't you do something? They're trying to get in touch with you. And he made some sort of holier than now statement, well, if they want to get in touch with me, they should come and knock on the door of the Department of Justice. So show your
Starting point is 00:46:34 cards, basically. Come down. And so, you know what happened? Some of the survivors did actually go to the Department of Justice. Guess who wasn't there? Guess who did not open the door for them? Todd Blanche or any of the officials in the Department of Justice. So they try to play this game on TV, look, we're being transparent. Look, we're interviewing her. Look, we're doing this. We're doing that. We're doing everything for this case. Look, we released millions of documents, millions of millions of documents. But it's all actually in furtherance of the cover-up. It's all to try to hide the ball of what's really happening, like one of these kind of Trump magic tricks. But now he's brought in his personal criminal attorney, Todd Blanche, into these positions.
Starting point is 00:47:10 He's brought in all these other kind of implicated people, other people who are involved with Jeffrey Epstein into his cabinet, surrounded himself essentially with Epstein associates in this cabinet and has really turned this into the Epstein administration and the major red line, and this should say everything to you, that the major red line for Donald Trump in kind of rebuking Marjorie Taylor Green and so many people who actually believed in Donald Trump who were in this MAGA movement was their demands to release the Epstein files, that he really promoted throughout his campaign as something that he was going to do and something that he used to smear so many people. And how many times have we seen MAGA throughout the years
Starting point is 00:47:57 released these phony lists, right? They show like a Microsoft Word document that like some MAGA random person made up. And it's like, oh, look, look who's on the list. Jimmy Kimmel and Tom Hinks and Alec Baldwin. They just put like people they don't like on the list. It's a fake list. But then we actually see who is really involved, and suddenly they put their blinders on, oh, no, it can't be Donald. The whole thing, it's so reprehensible. It's just so depraved to see these people in the lengths that they're going to in order to cover up something so heinous. But we're seeing, you know, more developments nevertheless, like with the investigation that's happening right now of the Zora Ranch in New Mexico, with the Attorney General in New Mexico investigating that. There were
Starting point is 00:48:40 some survivors from the Zorro ranch coming forward now, saying a lot of the stuff that was going on at the Zora Ranch. That's something that the Department of Justice did not even touch. They didn't even want to look at what was going on in the Zora Ranch. And so little by little, you know, we are learning more and more and more. But, you know, as frustrated as I am, that we still don't have all the answers and we're far from getting them, I try to ground myself in thinking about how these survivors feel, you know, going on right now, I don't know, decades and decades and decades of trying to get to the truth, trying to hold people responsible, trying to get some accountability and being blocked every step of the way. Exactly. For me, it's just like the simplest
Starting point is 00:49:22 articulation of all of this is like there's nothing political about the release of the Epstein files. There's that, like there should not be anything political about that. It doesn't matter if you're a Democrat. It doesn't matter if you're a Republican. If you're red or blue or purple or orange, it shouldn't matter, right? This is about, Brett, like you said, accountability and justice for their survivors. This is an issue here that all Americans, that all people, that anyone with a heart and soul should want to get behind. You should want justice for the survivors hands down. I don't care who you vote for. And so to see this weaponized in such a bizarre way by Donald Trump, to me is very telling. And by MAGA is very telling of where their
Starting point is 00:50:07 cards are on this issue. And it's despicable. And it should leave not just a sour taste in everyone's mouth. It should leave, I don't need more sour than sour taste in everyone's mouth. I don't even know. It's so reprehensible what we're seeing from this, this level of government from this quote unquote leadership here that they're just kneeling the football on this. Like that that's actually what I'm witnessing personally is what they're doing here is they're trying to run out the clock on this issue, right? This isn't like a bill about the economy or a bill about, you know, should we raise taxes by X, Y, Z. These are human beings.
Starting point is 00:50:47 These are human beings that have gone through what most people can never even fathom. We should all want justice for the survivors. This isn't an issue that just goes away that people are going to get bored about. No, more and more people, as a day goes by, are pressing Trump in the regime to release the Epstein files. Let's get to the bottom of this. This isn't a Democrat-Republican thing. This is a humanity thing. I think we could all get behind that, Ben.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And I think the first segment we did on Iran, on Trump's unlawful and catastrophic war, and the quagmire there, actually based on what you say there, Jordy, I'll take that thread and expand upon it, there's links with how he's handling the Epstein files. I mean, both in terms of lots of people, and I'm in this camp included, believe one of the reasons that Trump started this unlawful and catastrophic war in the first place was to cover up the Epstein files and to cover up the fact that we were learning a lot and it was part of a distraction effort. But both in terms of this is what Trump does here and throughout his life. He tries to run out the clock on things and he thinks people will just ignore it and it'll go away
Starting point is 00:52:00 and you just pretend it doesn't happen. and with both the catastrophic war in Iran and the Epstein files, for different reasons, they're not going away, right? People are like, hey, you know, yeah, you may have, you know, when it came to like Melania's immigration status and you were like two weeks, two weeks will give you a press con. Maybe people forgot about that in 26 or sadly, the health care plan. People need to remember that we keep trying to remind people, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:29 He gets, he can come up with scams to, you know, he brings in drug manufacturers and they say, oh, look, we brought down the price of the truck. Total BS. But he drags that out. We keep calling it. I know the American people aren't buying that one. But with Epstein, he can't get rid of it. You know, all of his tricks ain't getting rid of it.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And when it comes to the catastrophic war in Iran, all of the lies, the fake negotiations, the fake posturing, he can't get rid of it. And he's stuck. He doesn't know what to do. And I think it's important that we look at these things very carefully because it shows how he came to power because it actually is a unique ability. You know, we have to analyze it. Like, how is he's able to lie with every word, syllable sound. And it's relentless.
Starting point is 00:53:18 And he can find people around him who bend reality and they flood the zone and they flood and they don't stop. So when you're on the receiving end of it, Sometimes like, I don't want to deal with this. Like how do I? Okay, sure. You're right, Donald. And you just, and it just makes people give up. It is at a proportion of flooding the zone with lies that frankly, we never, people really
Starting point is 00:53:43 never seen and it's relentless and it's every day and it's 2 a.m. And it's 5 a.m. And it's poe, poe, poe, poe, blah, blah, blah. You know, and it's, and it's maniacal. It's crazy. I mean, the things that are made up are ridiculous. Then he has, you know, people go after you. And before you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:59 You're like, what the hell am I even trapped? And let me just get out of this world. That's the super. I don't want to call it a superpower in like a positive sense. But that's the, it's not the truth, the reality. Foka, it is flooding it with so many lies. But in these instances, it's stuck. There's a quagmire.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And it's not working. But you see all of the things. And the things that he's doing are so mind-bogglingly outrageous. Like, what do you say? what are you doing? That can't be real. You're saying you're having, you know, you're saying whatever. But the public has stepped up when it's come to releasing the Epstein files. And Iran has responded by countering Donald Trump with their own kind of social media outrageousness and and flamboyance and the constant posting back. And that combined with the rapid fire response and always
Starting point is 00:54:55 reacting and always responding and always, you know, letting it is, it's uniquely he's captured and he's flailing. And ultimately, when you remove the facade, you see how utterly weak, how utterly pathetic it is. And it is lonely and it is pathetic and it is dark and it is sick, but it is weak. It is really, really weak. And that's the thing. It's always been that way. And that's why society always needs to stand up to bullies. You always need to push back right away because when you emboldened it, they just continue and they won't stop until you assert yourself. That's what you got to do. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Last quick break of the show. When we come back, I want to share with you some, you know, Donald Trump blaming Biden for the Spirit Airlines bankruptcy. I want to show you some things that I think are not getting that much attention, what went down in some recent hearings as these. Trump picks for judge for judgeships lifetime appointments, how they were responding with some questions. Midas did videos on that. I know people are hearing a lot about it now, but Midas has been reporting about it all weekend. And now fortunately, that's become kind of top of the news, I think, as a result of our reporting. We'll talk about that and more. Oh, and we'll talk about attorney acting AG, Todd Blanche, basically destroying the Comey case with this horrific interview he did with meet the press.
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Starting point is 01:00:14 I don't make assumptions. You see what I'm saying. If you're not, go ahead and add the Midas Touch podcast on Apple Podcasts. podcast and Spotify and go be an audio listener and be included in the people who Jordan is speaking about people making an ass of themselves acting attorney general Todd Blanch was on the weekend shows he was on meet the press and he was asked about the frivolous criminal prosecution of James Comey former FBI director for posting a video for posting a photograph of seashells it said 86 47 about a year ago and so he
Starting point is 01:00:47 Blanche was asked a pretty basic question which is you know a lot of people sell merch that says 8647 on Amazon and people use that phrase. It means to get rid of in terms of it's an expression that's used in the restaurant industry, get rid of either getting rid of an order or getting rid of a person from the bar if they're unruly. So what's what about people who use the term like 8647? There were lots of people when Biden was an office who would sell merch 8646. And we saw a lot of close influencers of Trump, say 864, you know, using that.
Starting point is 01:01:20 expression 8646. So are you, is this is this like a, is this like a social media crime now? If anybody says 86 47, like the DOJ prosecutes you for attempted assassination, like what do what are you doing there? Watch the entire criminal case against Comey crumble in under a minute and 30 seconds. Well, the image, excuse me, is part of what led to this indictment. It is worth noting that on Amazon.com, we look this up. There are dozens of products with the same terminology. We're showing it right here. 8647 being sold and purchased right now. Should individuals selling or buying 8647 merchandise be concerned that they're going to be prosecuted by the DOJ? This isn't about a single incident. Okay, this isn't, I mean,
Starting point is 01:02:08 of course not. That's posted constantly. That phrase is used constantly. There are constantly men and women who choose to make threatening statements against President Trump. Every one of those statements do not result in indictments, of course. There are facts, there are circumstances, there are investigations that have to take place, and we have charged dozens and dozens of men and women this year with threatening President Trump and others. So this isn't a new charge we're bringing. Just to be very clear, you are suggesting the seashells themselves are not at the root of this indictment. No, I am suggesting that every single case depends on the investigation that's done. And of course, the seashells are part of that case. I mean, that's what the public sees.
Starting point is 01:02:48 But of course the sea shells are part of the case. Sally sold seashells by the sea shore, the seashells, everybody. Do you guys remember when Merrick Garland would go on all of the new shows? And he'd go on MS Now and he'd go on Fox and he'd go on all the weekend shows and talk about active prosecutions? You remember Merrick Garland doing that? What about Eric Holder? You remember when Holder would just do, you know, just do a press tour and go on all of the shows? You remember when the prosecutors like the federal prosecutor who leads Washington, D.C.,
Starting point is 01:03:24 's United States Attorney's Office, remember always would go on and do the shows and do a media tour basically about, no, you didn't because that didn't happen. That's not what you do. Why are you? There's a lot to say there. I'm glad he made such a ridiculous statement that completely undermines the case. And on that basis alone, and many others, the case will be dismissed. We all knew it was a frivolous complaint.
Starting point is 01:03:46 But why are you, you know, why are you doing these interviews? Like, that already reflects poorly on the credibility. You should speak through your motions in the case. And then going back to the last segment, you all see how this all ties in together. When it comes to Attorney General Pam Bondi and all these people, they do these shows. They spout this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then it's like, okay, let's go under oath, right? No, no, I don't want to be under oath.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Why, you've been talking about it. You've been talking a lot of shit to all of these plays. Go under oath. Let's talk about it in a setting where rules of evidence apply, where, you know, judges are supposed to enforce the law. Why don't we talk about it on no, no, no. I'm going to wrap it around to one other point that we were making too and say now, remember when Howard Lutnik was on these podcasts,
Starting point is 01:04:43 and he would say, we got one. 1,000 gold cards sold, 1,000 are sold. We are making billions. We're going to make a trillion dollars on the gold, the Trump gold card for immigration. Then he gets put actually under oath. And they say, Mr. Lutnik, how many of those Trump gold guards were actually sold? You said you sold at least a thousand. This was last year.
Starting point is 01:05:06 You said that on the all in podcast. So what are the numbers today? One. But even to get there, he goes, well, look. It's a very robust and methodical process that we have to go through. And the, sorry. And it was like, it was like some of her. He's out. He's out. It was like to review the application was like a hundred X what it used to be or
Starting point is 01:05:34 whatever the number was. I mean, he's like, I think one is actually, Ben's about to pass out on the line. It's not, Ben, it's not easy to be Howard Lutnik. It's a work. It's a hard as easy to do in Howard Lutnik. that is easy to speak like you have smoked five packs of cigarettes a day. I don't know if he does. My face is so red. It looks like I'm, my face is a boiling crab. All right, let's go.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Let's go. So obviously, look, you know, he admits there. It's a common expression used all of the time. Motion to dismiss, see you later. We knew that before he said that. But you know, Janine Piro. Everyone says that phrase. Everyone is that.
Starting point is 01:06:11 What is that? Sixth, one of us. Hello, who's calling? 86, 47's calling. Who? What? That's just the expression. Everybody uses according to Don Blanchet.
Starting point is 01:06:22 That's what everybody's, everybody is the most common phrase. All the cool kids in school are basically, you know, everyone was thought, what was the the kids used to say six seven? They actually were saying. It was like four months. Used to say. By the way, I've not seen like, this has had such a stricane effect because I've not seen more more people use 8647 than right now.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Like everyone keeps posting images. He's posted it. I see it in the chat right now as we're saying this. People are writing it. It's a ridiculous thing. And I think it's important. As we always say in all of these episodes, when we talk about the alleged incident at the White House
Starting point is 01:07:04 correspondence, whatever it is, we always say we condemn political violence in all of its forms. At the same time, when I see you all, these, you know, Trump, they were laughing after the White House correspondence dinner. And they're like smiling and they're like, I guess we got to build the ballroom now. Well, when you handle things like that, then I'm going to comment on the way you're dealing with something like that.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And I'm going to point it out. I'm not going to be silenced. I'm going to point out your behavior, right? And when you have Todd Blanche saying, everybody uses the term, everybody uses them. I'm going to call out and be like, okay, so you're saying everybody, who uses the term. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 01:07:44 You can't get mad at people when they start, when their mind starts going into conspiracies and is this real? Did this really happen when you're dealing with a Trump regime that lies about everything? It makes them, it makes any word out of your mouth, even if it is 100% true. It makes you think, well, let's verify that this actually happened first. That's the kind of conditioning that the Trump regime has put on the American people because they lie about everything out there. I just think the contrast, Ben, you were bringing it up before. It was so interesting when you think about Garland. Do you think about people like Jack Smith and how methodical they were and how careful they were to ensure they weren't politicizing everything? And it was something that
Starting point is 01:08:25 we would say on the show, which is something you said before, which is when Jack Smith wouldn't speak in public. We used the same damn picture of Jack Smith in all of our videos because he never saw the guy. You saw him once when he was going to get a subway sandwich during the line. and the photographers found him. Aside from that, you never saw the guy. You saw the same picture of him in the purple robe from the Hague. And we would say, well, Jack Smith is a guy. And then, you know, seasoned prosecutors would say he speaks through his filings.
Starting point is 01:08:53 You will see what the evidence is. You will see what the accusations are when you see the actual documentation. He will put it in there with evidence. He will back it up. That's how Jack Smith speaks. And you had a guy like Garland, who, of course, was, you know, similar, you know, probably to a fault in the way that he handled things. But while they were doing that,
Starting point is 01:09:14 you still had the Trump people because they live in this alternate reality where all they do is blame, blame, blame, blame, blame. They never take any personal responsibility. They were accusing Merrick Garland and Jack Smith as being the most political figures imaginable that these people had so politicized the justice system that all these charges were unfair
Starting point is 01:09:34 because they just wanted to get Trump. And it could not be first. from the truth and it is just another example of the psychological projection where everything that is their fault everything that they do they try to say no it's biden's fault no it's this person's fault it's that person fault it can't be me it can't be Donald trump it's got to be them right so jeannie year is going to be two like 2045 and they're still going to be blaming Biden for things like that it's just it's their crutch they can't go a full sentence without tossing the blame back on Biden, no matter how far and further away we get from his presidency. It's bizarre. It's bizarre.
Starting point is 01:10:12 And I'll just jump off that. Then I'll show Janine Piro in a second. Right. Spirit Airlines declares bankruptcy this weekend. Spirit Airlines puts out a statement it's because the high jet fuel prices that were unexpected as a result of this catastrophic war. Spirit Airlines says it's the jet fuel prices. That's why. We're aware that they did two bankruptcies and tried restructuring and that they were struggling. Now they're shut down, shut down, not opening up, 7,500 employees lost their job. There were 17,000 in total who lost their job. But then immediately, I mean, immediately after Spirit announces that they're going bankrupt, what does the Trump regime do? Oh, it was Biden's fault back in 2022. That's what they go back to.
Starting point is 01:10:51 In 2022, there was going to be a merger between Spirit Airlines and JetBlue and the Biden administration blocked the merger. And that's what did it. They don't say the part that in 2024 was a Reagan appointed judge who presided over the case and issued a hundred plus page ruling that said that the merger violated antitrust laws. And the Trump regime also doesn't say that JetBlue right now is like $8 to $9 billion in debt and hasn't made a profit in a very, very, very long time. And that what likely would have happened if you combined the, if you combine spirit with JetBlue and the contagion of the higher, it's not like, it's easy contagion to identify, which is the high jet prices. If you put both of them together and saddle JetBlue with additional debt and additional crises
Starting point is 01:11:44 from Spirit, you likely now would have had both entities going bankrupt. And I'd pay very close attention right now to JetBlue because its founder said they're in real risk of potential bankruptcy. The current leadership was a little bit different than the founder says, we don't expect bankruptcy in 2026. But as jet fuel prices continue to go up, I would pay attention to that and other budget airlines. And what's going on there also,
Starting point is 01:12:10 Donald Trump was the one who claimed that he created a golden age and everybody's doing good. And he was going to fix the, you know, Trump took over into, took over a portion of Intel. Trump was the one who ultimately let Spirit go bankrupt. And that was apparently done in coordination with other airline CEOs. from what I've heard. And, you know, and that was a Trump thing. This was a Trump bankruptcy. Jordi, as you said, Biden's been gone for a long time. You can't say we're in a golden age. Things are amazing. Everyone's great. $21 trillion have been brought in. This is the golden age.
Starting point is 01:12:43 And then a bankruptcy happens. Ah, the Biden's 2022 antitrust. And Ben. Yeah. I think you got to look at that. These are the same people. These are the same people that are bombing Iran saying that we completely obliterated all of their missiles, all their defenses. And yet we still have to invade because they're still building this incredible arsenal. I mean, they are the party of doublespeak. MAGA is the party of doublespeak. They don't actually have a North Star.
Starting point is 01:13:06 They just lie. I think this is why you got to watch what they do during these situations, right? Because an American company like Spirit going out of business during the Trump administration, specifically stating that the reason is because of Donald Trump and the increased fuel prices due to his war, that's like as bad of news as he get. And so seeing that machine kick into gear to immediately go, this is Elizabeth Warren's fault. This is Joe Biden's fault. And they just pump that out, right?
Starting point is 01:13:33 You turn on Fox News. That's what they're saying. You open up the New York Post. That's what they're saying. You go on Twitter. That's what the MAGA influencers is saying. You look at truth social. That's what Donald Trump is saying.
Starting point is 01:13:43 So they pump out this garbage. They flood the zone with this fire hose of BS. And so it's up to you to push back. Like, first off, Elizabeth Warren, and Joe Biden do not have unilateral control over these sorts of things. They did file a lawsuit because it was obviously going to be bad for consumers. And a Reagan appointed judge agreed with them on that. And that has no bearing whatsoever to the high fuel prices,
Starting point is 01:14:10 which are the actual stated reason by the company today as to why they went out of business. But that's a nice red herring that they're throwing out there, right? That's a good diversion. And these magas with their propaganda machines with their propaganda, arms, they are actually masters of diversion. It's kind of like a magic trick, right? How do we get people to not care? How do we get people to not be upset that we just destroyed a major company and
Starting point is 01:14:35 that all these people are out of work? Well, you go back to the authoritarian playbook, which has worked throughout the decades, which was used in the 1930s, which you could put at any of these regimes. They scapegoated. They try to direct the anger. Oh, you're downtrod and you lost your job. Things are crappy. you're paying high price for gas.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Well, guess what? It's that guy did it. That guy did it. It wasn't me. So let's all gang up on these people to direct people's rage at a different source. It's the same playbook that's existed for a long time. But it's kind of on steroids now due to the internet and due to these algorithms where they just push it out like crazy. The reality is catching up to them.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Just quick anecdote here. I can't tell you how many conversations I had over this past weekend alone, just about the high oil prices and gas prices from friends and neighbors in the community. I mean, it probably came up like six or seven times, like totally unprompted, by the way. I'm just like, I paid $1.15. And then someone else at the park was like, I paid $130. And it became like a whole conversation I got into just at the park alone with my son, you know, just trying to take the day off of everything and people not knowing, you know, necessarily what I do here at the network. And so it's hitting people like where it hurts. And it's in their wallets. And it's no wonder why Trump's approval rating, well, disapproval rating,
Starting point is 01:15:49 I should say is actually one of the highest in American history is disapproval rating. It's unbelievable because these prices, again, it hits people where it hurts and it's their money. Like, leadership is difficult. Like, actually solving problems is hard. Blaming people is easy. And so having to both solve problems and rebut disinformation actually is more challenging than lying about everything. I mean, it'd be easy if I just got up here every day and just like, just made up a bunch of things, you know.
Starting point is 01:16:22 I mean, when Donald Trump wakes up, he makes up fake conversations that he has. And he gets the outcome that he wants because heads he wins, tells you lose in his fake conversations that in his fake deals and things are happening that aren't happening. And he just makes it up. And you're like, well, how can you, how can you do that? And it's hard for normal language to rebut that craziness other than to basically have to holistically call it out and say, you know, this dude is psychotic. Like, like, you don't believe any word he's saying.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Like, this guy is a weak and pathetic loser. You have to approach it with that kind of mindset because otherwise, almost quibbling with the made up stuff on it. You get kind of lost in the morass of this literally made up world that he, this fiction where these conversations aren't, you know, aren't even happening. And you're grasping to try to find strands of truth or messages in frankly a deranged universe. I just want to show you two other quick things. Janine Piro, she goes on the morning shows, and she basically defends that she'll continue to go after Jerome Powell, who's about to be the former chairman of the Federal Reserve, who's going to stay on as a board of governor, because the DOJ, she says, we're a lot.
Starting point is 01:17:36 She's criticizing the judge for quashing her investigation, her criminal investigation into Jerome Powell. She goes, we're allowed to investigate based on rumors and based on like, you know, what we read, just read out there. We could start investigations on anyone based on rumors. Listen to what she says the DOJ standard is to impanel grand juries. Just listen to her in words. Here, play this clip. Evidence. When the United States Supreme Court has said, I can present evidence based upon or open an investigation, suspicion and rumors. I can start an investigation based on that. A judge has stopped me from doing that. And therefore, the only way to get evidence,
Starting point is 01:18:14 the only way to find out what happened is through the inspector general. And I spoke to Michael Horowitz and I said, I would like this in short order. You have the ability to talk to witnesses. I have been foreclosed from doing that. And we continue to litigate the issue. So she says her standard is rumors. That she says the Supreme Court has told her that she can launch investigations on people based on rumors. That's not the standard that the DOJ ever applied. We're going to criminally investigate people based on rumors. So Donald Trump makes a deranged rumor. He makes a post about somebody, right? Or he'll have, you know, Bill Pulte or one of his deranged top officials that he's put in there make up a rumor about whoever it is. Then they'll say, okay, criminal
Starting point is 01:18:59 investigation and panel a grand jury. Then they'll start subpoenaing your records and they'll issue warrants and they'll do all of these things. Then they'll try to build a case against you. Like, that's literally what, you know, what she said. And by the way, you know, it should not be lost on you that the individual who's saying that is also a former Fox News host, who was somebody who trafficked in these exact sort of rumors on the air, and that the people who we know Donald Trump is in touch with when it comes to all these issues and wants to spread these rumors are people like Sean Hannity and other Fox hosts who they use to bring this messaging to people via an unofficial source. That's why we call Fox state regime media, because they're there
Starting point is 01:19:39 to launder the talking points of the White House, in my opinion, and we've seen this coordination already outlined between people like Donald Trump and Sean Hannity, the way they talk to each other, the way around January 6th, John Hannity was essentially acting as a public relations crisis firm for Donald Trump, coaching him on what to say, trying to tell his audience, what to believe, what to think, trying to get Trump back into the good graces of the American people. So this is a sophisticated operation that exists. And right there, Janine Piro is basically reserving her right to based on all of this made-up stuff to launch investigations, which she just so happens to be a part of this web, this rumor
Starting point is 01:20:18 mill that exists on the right. So what do you do when judges say, no, you can't do that? Those aren't the rules. What are you talking about? I'm not going to allow that to happen. Well, Donald Trump does, you know, one of two things. One, he becomes both the plaintiff and the defendant in a lawsuit, right? Back in January, he sues the Treasury Department and the IRS for $10 million and then tries to enter into a settlement agreement with himself. He asks a federal judge in the Southern District of Florida, Judge Williams, to bless these settlement discussions. And she's like, whoa, I don't have jurisdiction over this. I can't have a case where you're the plaintiff and the defendant and you want me to basically bless a collusive, apparently what it looks like it could be a fraudulent settlement
Starting point is 01:21:01 agreement. I'm not going to go and bless this unless I have jurisdiction. So explain why you're adverse and why this isn't just some phony case. I'm going to step up and step up and assert my role as a judge to say, I might not have jurisdiction. Give me your arguments why this is a real case to begin with. You've already said Donald Trump, you've already won the case before it's even been fought because you're both sides of the case. So that's one of the tools of an authoritarian. The other is appoint judges who are authoritarian enablers, who are bootlickers, right? So that's why it's also important that they bring judges who just deny basic facts, who deny that there's amendments that prevent Donald Trump from serving a third term, bring in judges who refuse to say that Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:21:43 lost the 2020 election. Bring in judges who refused to say that January 6 was an attack on the Capitol. Bring in judges who refused to say that there are restraints on a president's ability to go to war without Congress. That's why it was really important that I brought everybody and brought attention to these hearings that weren't getting enough attention. So I'll give you an example. Over last week, you had a hearing with all these federal judges who Trump wants to appoint in various districts. And questions were asked like this by Democratic Senator Coons, and he's asking these Trump picks about whether Donald Trump could run for a third term. Let's play this first clue. Mr. Mark, if I might, just tell me about the 22nd Amendment. What does it provide?
Starting point is 01:22:30 The 22nd Amendment, Senator, my career has mostly been in criminal prosecution. I haven't had an opportunity to use that on specifically. Anyone able to help on the 22nd Amendment to the United States Constitution. Senator, I believe it is the amendment that deals with a two-term limitation on the service of the president. It states no person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice. Mr. Mark, is President Trump eligible to run for president again in 2028? Senator, without considering all the facts and looking at everything, depending on what the
Starting point is 01:23:11 situation is, this to me strikes more of a hypothetical of something that could be It's not a hypothetical. Has President Trump been elected president twice? President Trump has been certified the president of the United States two times. Is he eligible to run for a third term under our Constitution? I would have to review the actual order to it. All I need to tell you is the language of the constitutional amendment that makes it clear that no, he is not eligible to run for the third term. Anybody else brave enough to say that the Constitution of the United States prevents President Trump from seeking the third term? Anybody willing to apply the Constitution by its plain language in the 22nd Amendment?
Starting point is 01:23:48 Nobody. I'll represent that the Democratic senators then asked who won the 2020 election and they all said, well, Biden was certified. Well, who won? Biden was certified. So you refused to say who actually won the election? Well, we could only say who's certified. And then when they asked these people who are going to be appointed as lifetime federal judges,
Starting point is 01:24:11 was January 6th an attack on the Capitol, we can't answer that question. There may be a case in controversy before. You can't answer that. January 6 was an attack on the Capitol. We can't, all we can say is that it could be an issue that can come before us. We're not going to be able to discuss what the events were. They try to go, I can't answer political questions. I can't answer politically charged questions.
Starting point is 01:24:34 And the things that the Democrats kept responding is this isn't a political question. This is a matter of fact. And if you can't answer a question of basic fact, like who won the 2020 election? Did Joe Biden win? If you can't answer that in a yes or no question, it's not a political question, then how do we, how are you as a judge going to judge the basic facts of a case or the complex facts of a case? And to me, that should be an immediate disqualifier. But it's showing how Donald Trump is filling the bench, is packing the various courts around
Starting point is 01:25:06 the country with these completely unqualified people who are simply political operatives who are being selected from the Project 2025 crew, the Heritage Foundation crew, in order to fill these seats so that they can make political rulings, not based on fact, but based on, ironically, because they act like, oh, we can't go with that because it's political. They're doing, making all their decisions purely based on political means in order to do whatever they can to advance the right-wing mag agenda. That's all I got today. We've covered a lot of topics. I'm sure we'll be going live with more breaking news also after this. We're going to keep on keeping on with all of our coverage, giving you the real information, as always.
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