The MeidasTouch Podcast - Michael Cohen Promises Trump Indictments Are On The Way (Part 1 of 2)

Episode Date: December 31, 2021

On today’s episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast we sit down with our friend, a true warrior for Democracy and host of the Mea Culpa Podcast, Michael Cohen. During this interview, we cover it all from what it’s like to no longer be on house arrest (if that’s even a fair representation) to the infamous Mark Meadow’s text messages from Jan 6. and even his relationship with Kanye West. Following this interview, the brothers rank their favorite Christmas movies! If you enjoyed today’s episode, please be sure to rate, review and subscribe. Lastly, we would like to wish all our followers Happy & Healthy New Year! As always, thank YOU for listening. DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS: ATHLETIC GREENS: athleticgreens.com/MEIDAS BETTER HELP: betterhelp.com/MEIDAS Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 Zoomed In: https://pod.link/1580828633 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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how we get the word out about this show. Yeah, check us out on YouTube too. Midas Touch YouTube channel. Subscribe to that channel. You could watch all these interviews live. But today, fellas, but today, we have on a man that needs no introduction, a friend of the show, Michael Cohen, will be joining us for a brand new exclusive interview, giving us the inside scoop of what he's doing now that he is, I guess, technically a free man, although you'll see he might refute my framing of him as a free man, but he is able to now leave his apartment complex, which is ironically Trump Tower. He's able to... Is that crazy? Is it really? Is that known? Are you allowed to say that?

Yeah, of course. He's on house arrest in Trump Tower. How crazy was that? But he's no longer on house arrest. Michael Cohen is out. I know there's a lot on his mind. I know there's a lot of information that he wants out into the public, that he wants you to hear, that he wants investigators to hear. And I know he is, that's why he was excited to come on our show. And that's why he's eagerly speaking with investigators about everything that's going on with Donald Trump. And, you know, just excited to hear what he's got going on? I got a lot of questions for him because it seems like he is now just the Renaissance man who is kind of doing a bit of everything. He's now the most prolific man. He's writing books. He's doing art. I was going to say, I don't know how he has the time. I knew he had the time before, but now I don't know how he has all this time to do all this stuff, but excited to get into it with Cohen and Jordy. What's up? Fellow New Yorker too. I know you love our New Yorkers on the show. Fellow New Yorker, fellow Long Islander. Once again, we have that connection

just right off the bat, just like talking to an old buddy. But Brett, you do this thing, man, and it's funny. Now I'm saying it to knock you because you're an excellent interviewer, but you find a way to always like slightly offend our guests by the framing of your questions to them. You offended Mooch twice. You offended Mooch in the latest interview that we did a few weeks ago and the first time. And I'm pretty sure you offended Michael Cohen in this interview as well. Do you do it on purpose? Yeah. Do you do it on purpose? Well, listen, these aren't softball interviews when guests come on the Midas Touch podcast,

all right? They're going to have to get into the hot chair. They're going to have to answer some real questions. Let me ask you. I know what you're talking about because you and me look at each other when Brett does it. We always give each other a look like. Do you think through when you ask the questions like that to say things that are kind of like that? Or does it kind of come out a certain way just like in the heat of the moment that it just says it like that? Or does it kind of come out a certain way, just like in the heat of the moment

that it just says it like that? Well, sometimes with like the Mooch comment, which I think you're talking about, which is when I said that Mooch, when I said, what are you, Bernie Sanders over here? Is that the comment you're talking about? Yeah, in the latest interview with Mooch, but then you offended him the first time when you were talking about how when he was the press secretary, you're like, yeah, I was scared of you because you were, you actually were smart. I remember vividly the day that you replaced Sean Spicer in the press briefing room. And my reaction was, shit, this is a guy who could speak, who could actually communicate. He's not a buffoon like Spicer was.

And at the time I thought Trump was evil as I do now. And I was watching you and I thought, I thought you were scary because I thought you were a very good messenger and very good at what you do. Thankfully for us, you only lasted 11 days in the role. And now you're on the side of good. But I just remember being like, this is a smart dude. In the weird way you're complimenting me, so I'll say thank you. But here's the thing. What I was going for with Trump. Yeah, well, first off, I don't know why either of those are insults. Secondly, it's also Brett's delivery, the way he delivers them. Listen, Mooch can take it.

What did Mooch say before we even started recording our interview with Mooch? What was the first word out of his mouth? I think he called us morons or something. Mooch doesn't wait till word three to hurl an expletive at you once you get on the Zoom chat. No, before the record, I mean, Mooch was just brutal for the first 30s. I can't even even discuss how brutal he was like you know those leaked cover the leaked conversations that led to you know his firing and that led to um you know this comments he made about steve bannon and stuff that is mooch before we hit the record button he's not much cleaner when you start the episode by the way that's cohen too yeah it is it is it's a long it's a Long Island thing.

It's a Long Island thing. But my point is Cohen can take it and other guests, sometimes they say things and I am happy for them to just be able to have a platform for their opinion. Even if I don't agree with their opinion, I'm happy that they're able to get it out. I think we should have diverse points of view here. But sometimes somebody says something that I think needs a little bit of pushback on. And so that's when I, you know, kind of press a little bit at certain things that I disagree with or think need clarification or I think someone should have to answer for. I think it's important when I think it's important for us to step in. But, you know, that's overall, you know, I'm I'm happy that we have a diverse range

of guests from different sides of the political spectrum. I'm happy that we do not support voices on this show who are just blatantly anti-democracy, pro-fascism. That is something we will never do. But I do have like having diverse voices amongst people who believe in democracy and who I believe are good faith actors who want to make the world,

make the country a better place. You totally took my words and spun them around into this whole other thing. But anyway, this interview with Michael Cohen is so good that we're actually, guys, we're going to split this one up into two parts. So we're going to do the first half today on Thursday, and then part two, you get to listen to on Monday. That's right. A little cliffhanger for the Midas Touch podcast. A little cliffhanger. I'm liking it. Well, I'm excited. Let's just get into it. How about that? First, a word from our sponsors, and then the first part of our interview with Michael Cohen.

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We got Michael Cohen on the special holiday podcast. Cohen, what's up? How you doing there, Ben? You know, listen, it's 1 o'clock. It's supposed to be a 1 o'clock start. Instead, Dookie LaRue over here decides that he's a big shot now, right? Might as touch doing so great that all of a sudden they make their guests wait. What are you laughing about, Brett?

You look like you just got your head done by Zoolander. Mike, all of a sudden, Michael Cohen, a free man, all of a sudden he's just crazy all of a sudden. It's time to dish the shit. Listen, I'm getting ready to first stand up. First off, I've got a bone to pick with you, Michael, because you're now like a free man, right? You've served your time.

However, I feel like it's a little convenient that you were forced to stay home when the rest of the world was also forced to stay home. So what are you trying to say? It's like my detention isn't really detention? I'm trying to say, I feel like- Artificial detention. Yeah, I feel like I was in the same sort of house arrest

that you were these past two years. How do you respond to that, Cohen? You're an idiot. Anyway, I'm going to say what your parents said to you your whole life. Shut up, idiot. Go up to your room. My parents would never say that to me. They love me very much, Michael.

Cohen, but in all seriousness. By the way, that's not what your brothers say, but I do want to say this in all seriousness. Number one, it's not the same because you were able to, of course, go out whenever you want. I had these designated times. I had to be home by 9 p.m. at the latest. Twice a week, I was allowed to go out with just my wife. Now I'm spending a lot of time rebuilding my relationships in the community, which is what it's supposed to have been about all along.

But I am not completely finished. That's actually inaccurate. Not only did Judge Pauli, William H. Pauli III, not only did he decide that I should be incarcerated for three years because of the president getting his pecker pulled by a porn star, but on top of that, I should also get three years of supervised release. So each month I have to, you know, check in with a, and she, by the way, my probation officer is fantastic, to be honest with you, but it's still an inconvenience. I'll tell you something else that I thought was really interesting. So when I first was indicted, or I first pled,

I had to surrender my passport. Well, I need a passport. So I applied. I paid the expedited fee. Sixteen weeks later, I still don't have it. It was really only thanks to me contacting a congressman's office that I was able to get it. And they finally arrived. So I am now the proud owner of a passport. Congratulations. Thank you. Much thanks. I feel like half a human being again. And Cohen, when you left the steps of the courthouse, you know, after though, serving the in-home detention portion of it, and now obviously unsupervised release, though, you made some powerful statements, though. You said, the fact that I'm, you know, off in home detention doesn't change a thing. I am going to make sure that I hold Donald

J. Trump accountable, all of the people in his inner circle accountable, and I offer myself as a witness in any of the pending cases. And so a lot of people are wondering, though, you know, the scales of justice, you know, people are saying it's it's certainly moving very slowly, you know, in the arc towards justice here. What's going on? And do you think Trump's going to be held accountable? So the answer is I still remain silent as it as it relates to the investigation currently ongoing by the district attorney, as well as the attorney general's office. However, I will confirm that I have continued to provide them with information, continue to answer certain questions that they have as they continue very actively investigating various different aspects. Now, the big problem that we have is as not just Americans, but the world today is technology. You want, you know, you don't even

have to type out a question anymore. It's more about, hey, Siri, right? And then you end up getting the question immediately answered. I mean, it's a tenth of a second. That's not how justice works, right? Especially not when you're going up against, you know, someone who's insane and somebody who is insanely litigious and is very astute when it comes to slowing down investigations as well as, you know, doing other things to inhibit investigations. And of course, I'm referring to individual number one, Donald J. Trump. So they want to make sure that it is ironclad that if they bring, which they will,

these indictments, that they will stick. Now, many people, myself included, have stated, you don't need to kill 10 people to be a murderer. You only need to kill one. And I believe, and I said this on the steps of the courthouse, and I've said it to the media, I said on CNN with Alison Camerota, MSNBC with Alex Witt, I believe that they have more than enough to not just invite, indict him, but to indict his children, Rudy, and a whole slew of other, you know, fools that have stayed with Donald, including now Mark Meadows.

I believe that there's more than enough to indict in these specific cases. Why are not doing it quicker? That's not a question I can answer. I don't have the answer to January 6th committee. You know, lots of people. Same thing. Right? They're saying, why is it moving so slowly? But they seem to be doing what I think, where I think Mueller failed. I think Mueller was really intimidated by a lot of the, you know, Trumpers, the mob and his investigation. And ultimately, his conclusion was stifled. Whereas, you know, Liz Cheney, Benny Thompson, you know, we could all say maybe it's going slow, but that is a process. But boy,

are they getting some, you know, significant information. And with Mark Meadows, and you may have better insight into here just knowing what that inner circle is. Is Mark Meadows just a total idiot, though? Because if you're going to go make this executive privilege claim, which is a nonsense claim anyway, why would he be turning over the documents that, one, serves as a waiver, two, are bombshell documents that really open up areas that I think we all knew took place, but to see it in text. So what's your reaction to what the January 6th committee is uncovering? Did you guys not see the article where it says Michael Cohen says Mark Meadows

is the dumbest asshole on the Hill? Because he is the dumbest asshole. First of all, before we even get to the January 6th texts and emails and so on, that somehow got into the hands of the committee. Why are we forgetting about the fact that this asshole who claims executive privilege, that he puts out a book, which automatically, as you guys know, disqualifies you from the privilege. You don't have the ability to talk about it in your book and then not to answer the same questions before the committee. That's just not how it works, Mark.

I mean, it's time for you to grow the fuck up and understand that Donald, your savior, can save you no more. Now, everything that's happening right now with the January 6th committee, with these text messages, there's so many things that are puzzling to me that I'm trying to work through. Because, you know, for me, having been around Trump as long as I was,

and having understood him, and now understanding how all of these different actors are involved with doing the same sort of stupid shit that I did and others at the Trump organization did for Donald. I somehow scratched my head. And I always look a little bit deeper than what's out there and what's provided. So let me just give you a specific because already, you know, what do you call it? Ben is already scratching his head. He's fucking lost. He's like, what the hell is Michael Tolkien? You left out, Brett. You don't even speak English.

Anyway, today's Jordy's day. Let's go. All right, Jordy can take over the rest of the show. It's just you guys now. We'll see you later. Ben, let's go. But here's the funny thing that doesn't make sense to me. It's the texts that were received. If you notice, it almost makes, you know, you don't know who some of the people are that, of course, they're keeping that secret.

But each and every one of them seems to be very anti the January 6th insurrection, the riot at the Capitol. Now, I'm always wondering, are these being planted specifically in order to help those people who may be testifying after Meadows? Is Meadows now being used as potentially the Michael Cohen 2.0, the sacrificial lamb? You know, the one that said, oh, I'm sorry, there's nothing more that I could do. To me, it sounds just like fucking Ivanka, right? Because she's always apologetic. It's that, you know, hold on, turn the fans on, hair blowing, look to the left, you know,

chest out. And so I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. Right. There's nothing more I can do. So you think that sounds kind of, it sounds kind of fake and like that it was put there to make somebody else look good. That's what you're saying.

I think that it's like a little self-serving that down the road, I tried. I tried. Don't come after me. I didn't do anything. Right. I tried to stop it. My dad was out of control. And or Mark Meadows didn't give my father the text messages or the emails or what have you.

Everything that goes on in this organization, you have to understand is corrupt. It's dirty, right? It's like a pigsty. And you have to look a little deeper with all of them. Meadows included, Giuliani included, you have the Josh Hawley included. You know, all of these people somehow seem to now have decided that they've now gone too far. Killing the Capitol Police officer, that's where I call the, that's where I'm drawing the line. Trying to break in into the, you know,

into stopping the election, that's where I have to draw the line. you know, throwing feces and breaking statutes and statues and destroying priceless paintings in our Capitol, the people's home. Now you've gone too far. And now it's too far. But 15 minutes before that, they were all up there on podiums sitting there telling people, you know, we're being screwed and we need you to support us. We need you to go and march on the Capitol in your paramilitary gear with your Ziplocs, your baseball bats, your steel pipes and your bear spray. I don't know. Something smells wrong to me. And Cohen, 15 minutes after you talk about 15 minutes before, but 15 minutes after, and maybe not 15 minutes after, but maybe a few days after, you know, this stress test of democracy. And that's what this Trump administration was.

Could our democracy withstand authoritarian like that? Just barely. But I think the lessons that the Fox News is, the Governor Death Santas is, and a lot of these Congress members saw with January 6th is the problem was that it was run by Trump and Trump's an idiot and doesn't care about democracy. And how could we do a coup that works? And so you see the voter suppression stuff. You see throughout a myriad of other policies that the GQP and the Republicans, we call the GQP, want to implement, which just seems to be a continuation of the coup, but kind of wrapped in a kind of intellectualism that Trump didn't possess. And that's something that's scary as we move forward, because the wrong lessons were learned by the Republicans. And what's the media doing? Well, they're just continuing to promote the big lie. And they're continuing, even the GOP members of Congress that were there that day, so many of them turned to, it was orderly. I mean,

they're following Trump's playbook, which is to deny, deny, deny, where Donald even went so far as to foolishly make a statement that there was love in the air, right? These people were hugging and kissing the police. Yeah. Are you kidding me? I'm not sure what you're watching. Look, this is a guy whose favorite movie is, oh God, why am I blanking now on the name of his favorite

movie? Cohen, this is your big moment. You're on the Midas Touch podcast and you're fucking it up. I can't believe it. The Del can't believe the Deliverance. The Deliverance is Donald's favorite movie. All right. You know, I can't believe that. You know, I never forget names, especially not in movies.

But the Deliverance is Donald's favorite movie. So this is a guy who has his own warped perception of reality. And the fact is they were not hugging and kissing the police. In fact, they wanted to kill them, and they did. They did injure and kill police. So whatever he says, you have to, again, you can't even take it as a grain of salt. It's complete and utter bullshit, completely stated in order to benefit him and him alone. And then you have stupid, stupid people like

Laura Ingram. You know, I had this conversation with David Pakman on his, right? Is it Ingram or Ingram? I keep hearing people saying. We know the answer actually. So, so we had Laura's brother on our show and he said, it's Ingram. And we didn't know that either, but you know, before the beginning of the show, we said Ingram, Inram ingram ingram and then he came on and he said ingraham and then we adjusted for the rest of the show i also said that she's a nazi yeah also said that the father was a nazi sympathizer who had a copy of mein kampf on their living room table and it explained a lot of things i think when we learned about their upbringing you see i feel bad because now i've been calling some other person named laura Ingram a fucking asshole and a jerk off.

And instead, Laura Ingram, if you're watching, which I'm sure you're watching, right? You and Fox suck. All right. You're an absolute fool. Sean Hannity, a guy who I used to call a friend. The same thing that the fact that they could all sit there and that they could continue despite the fact they knew the truth. There are text messages now that have this, that demonstrate they knew what was going on was wrong. It was not a peaceful protest, that people were not staying within the stanchions, and they continue to promote it. That's fucked up. That's people trying to assist the Fuhrer himself, Donald, in order to overthrow our government and to destroy our democracy. There's no other way to try to understand it. It is what it is.

Colin, when you would speak to Hannity, when you were part of, you know, the kind of Trump inner circle back then, would Hannity like talk shit about Trump? Did everybody like, like, did he know that he was just a fucking cartoon character just making a ton of money? Or was he a believer in those ideas? Or would he be like, yeah, that motherfucker is just crazy. Like, how would he talk to you behind the scenes about Trump and about these issues? Like, did he know he was a fraud? So Sean never disparaged Donald. He just never did. He always wanted to be a participant in the campaign from a distance because, of course, as a journalist, newscaster, whatever you want to call him, right, he didn't want to be seen as being partisan to Donald. In fact, Corey Lewandowski, who's another fucking tool and a half, went ahead

and he put a rift between Donald and Sean, whereby he claimed that Sean was in fact backing Ted Cruz and not Donald, which infuriated Donald that he would be so good to Sean, give him open access to him in terms of telephone as well as television time. And that secretly Sean was backing Ted Cruz. So Sean calls me up one night and says, this is ridiculous. Corey has me in the penalty box. I can't speak to Donald. Donald is angry at me. I need you to resolve this.

And of course I did. I turned around and I told Donald that Corey's full of shit. It's absolutely not true. If you want to hear it from the horse's mouth, let's call Sean. So he goes, get him on the phone. And then of course, it was a love fest. Quite frankly, it was a love fest, right? They made up one, two, three, and it's been a love fest ever since. So this is the big problem when it comes to Trump. He doesn't care about Sean. If Sean ended up in prison, he wouldn't send him a dollar to his commissary. It's all about what he can get out of who, what, when, where, and why on any given Monday and twice on Sunday. That's the truth. But Michael, I mean, would he send a dollar to anybody? I mean, Sean Hannity, whoever it is.

Like at the end of the day, I feel like the guy only cares about himself. Well, you just hit it on, I think I said that at the beginning of your show. Donald Trump cares about no one or anything other than himself. I mean, I say it all the time, not because I'm trying to disparage Trump.

You don't need me to disparage this ignorant, arrogant, orange-crusted, bloviated fucknut. You don't need me to disparage this ignorant, arrogant, orange-crusted, bloviated fucknut. You don't need me. People are doing that every single day. I'm giving you the emis, the truth onto this. This is who the man is. He fundamentally cares for no one other than himself. That includes his wives, Melania included, includes his kids, his grandkids. He doesn't care. It's all about him. He's the single most and only important person on the planet.

So, Michael, knowing what you know with Fox News, your relationship with Hannity, do you think there's just an implicit understanding amongst the staff there that whatever is going on in the world, that they have an obligation to counter that with their version of reality? Or is it actually like discussed? Like right now we got this January 6th thing going on. They're exposing a lot of stuff about our hosts. We should be talking about the Christmas tree instead. Like how do you think their process works

based on just what you know about the network? It's all about money. With the Murdoch's, it's all about money. In all fairness, I don't know if you watchch's. It's all about money in all fairness. I don't know if you watch succession. It's the same thing. Who doesn't love succession? It is the Murdoch's. It's only about profit. It's only about money. And if Donald Trump, you know, would turn around and say that, you know, Joe Biden, you know,

was running around the white house, but ass naked, right, and Fox could make money off of it, they would promote it. It doesn't make a difference, despite the fact that he was with, say, Vladimir Putin at the time. They don't care about facts. They don't. And it's really disgraceful. And what's really worse is that there are people who are glued. And when I say glued to Fox News, it is insane. Speaking to Fox News, you know, fanatics, it's 10 times worse than CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS fanatic, Midas Touch fanatics, you know, Mayakopa fanatics. There are people that refuse to miss our podcast. However, they're nothing.

They're nothing like that. People that will see me on the street and say, you know, I was just listening to you the other day with, you know, whoever the guest might have been. And, you know, I really don't agree with you, but that's OK. We're not supposed to agree all the time. Right. And I always say this. Ed Koch had that famous quote.

If you agree with me eight out of 12 times, you should, you know, you should vote for me. If you agree with me 12 out of 12 times, you should see a psychiatrist. Now, I didn't make that up. It's funny, right? But I didn't make that up. That's Ed Koch. It's the truth. These people will come to me and say, you know, I didn't really agree with you. But I understand your point. These people, whatever the fuck Fox says, it's fact. It's written in stone. It doesn't make a difference. And you cannot change their mind. It is the most insane thing that you could experience. Talking to a Fox fanatic is just talking to a lunatic. Well, it's like WWE fanatics, but the opponent in the situation is American democracy.

And that's who they're aiming to take down. And they have the same sort of level of passion. And the network is just an entertainment network that's just spouting this anti-democratic bullshit. I love that you brought up- Hey, Ben and Jordan, is Brett not prophetic? I am. My God.

I'm profound. I always knew Brett was the most profound brother. That's how you know that. I'm in just this room. I'm really just I always knew Brett was the most profound brother. I'm in just this room. I'm really just in space right now. Let me jump in here. When we would do Passover Seders growing up and we would all read from the booklet, we would all pick a brother to be. We'd all pick a son.

Brett would always be the wise child. We knew. We did some context for the non-Jews on this Christmas Eve. Wow. There was a wise son. There are multiple sons in the Passover book, right? Guess which one I was, Michael? You know, I... I'll cut to the chase. I was the simple child every year.

Every fucking year, they made me the simple child. You know what? I guess it fits. Yikes. Same team today. It's funny you brought up succession, Mike. Succession's amazing amazing by the way. Um, and there was a quote that I remember from a few episodes of succession where Shiv says something like, she says, the thing about us is you should know this by now. We don't get

embarrassed or we don't feel shame. Like they, she's made a comment like that. And I thought that was the most Trump in and most Fox Newsian sort of statement on the planet. Do you see overlaps of succession and the Trump family as well? I see a lot of like Don Jr. and Kendall Roy. I think it's sort of an amalgamation of both the Murdochs and like the Trump family. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, what they do is they take personality traits.

Like, for example, you have Connor, right? Who is Connor like? Connor is, in all right who is connor like connor's in all fairness is like it's like eric he's like the loser son yeah the weird loser you know the guy who's he's there all the time but you're just not really sure what the fuck he does you know and i'll never forget donald eric is the most like me when it comes to spatial. And I said, what does that even mean? And he turns around, he goes, well, he has my sort of design, you know, when it comes to, did you see how great he did in, for example, the Doral, the, you know, the party room. And I said, Mr. Trump, it's a fucking rectangle with a whole bunch of the same chandeliers that

you put in every single, you know, location that you have with the identical carpet. But yeah, good job, Eric. It's incredible. It's like, you know, you got to find something to pat him on the back. Now, Don is Don is very different. And by the way, he's very much like what he called Kendall, where he fights with his father. He's the only one that actually goes toe to toe with his father. I write about it in my book, Disloyal, where, you know, he would actually say shit to his father. Then they would end up having a massive fight. Don almost didn't end up working at the Trump organization.

He was tending bars somewhere. I think it was in Colorado. And the father said, either you get back within three weeks time or you're out. It's exactly the same relationship. It is. Fuck off. By the way, all the time. It was all the time and mostly to Don. Now, what's funny is you all may remember the big lawsuit that the DA had brought years ago against Don Jr. and Ivanka as it related to at the time Trump's Soho with the lying to the public about the number of units sold, puffing as Donald liked to call it. I'll never forget when Donald turned around and said, because it was Don Jr. and Ivanka, if it's one of the two that we have to offer up, let it be Don. Ivanka would never be able to handle it. Don is tough. He could take it. Now, that, of course, having a daughter and a son, I wouldn't offer either of them up. I mean, if you're going to fight because you believe that it's not true, you don't offer somebody up in advance in order to put an end to it.

So in essence, he didn't want the legal bills. So he'd rather offer Donna to go to prison, right? So that Ivanka doesn't have to and that they could end this whole nonsense. They're all such miserable fucking people. It's crazy. While we're on the subject of the kids, while we're on the subject of the kids, do they not have a direct line to their father? So I was going to ask the same thing. Liz Cheney read Don Jr.'s text the other day,

and the text was to Mark Meadows asking if he could get in touch with Donald to call off the January 6th insurrection. As Don Jr., as the son of the man responsible for everything. The namesake, Jordy, the namesake. Donald J. Trump Jr., right? I mean, the namesake couldn't get in touch with his father? Come on. I mean, you know, spare me the bullshit. That's why I said at the beginning of this show

that there's something more that's going on here. It's not what you think. And I also think at some point in time, it looks to me like they're almost like they're offering up Mark Meadows. Right. He may be the next sacrificial lamb or it could be it could even be Don Jr. But something is weird about which text messages everybody in the committee got, which are the ones who are still out there. You know, you have to always wonder what's going on with these people because it's nothing, nothing as it seems. Thank you, Michael Cohen. We will be right back after these messages. This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. Is there something interfering with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals?

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month at betterhelp.com slash Midas. That's betterhelp.com slash M-E-I-D-A-S. Check it out today. And now back to the show. Welcome back, Michael Cohen. That was an interesting place, Brett, to stop the interview. Part one. Yeah, part one. Why did an interesting place, Brett, to stop the interview. Part one. Yeah, part one. Why did you, Brett, as the editor, what was your strategic artistic vision of why to cut the interview at that moment? You always need to leave the people wanting a little bit more. I should have ended it on like a question. We should have Jordy asked.

This is how if I really wanted to get some listens on the next episode, it should have been Jordy going, Michael Cohen, do you think Donald Trump will go to prison? And then it zooms in on Jordy's face and it zooms in on Cohen's face with some swirl of dramatic music.

And then it says, find out next time. Oh, okay. I can get that. But I didn't do that. I just ended it at a question. I admit, honestly, I could say I made an artistic choice. We were always at the middle of the interview. There's a lot, but there's a lot of great stuff coming up with Cohen, which is important.

That I think is very newsworthy that I think you guys who love the podcast and love knowing everything that's going on, I think you guys are going to really like part two of this interview. So be sure to check back on the next episode for the rest of the interview. Wait, but did you see in the first part where you offended him? Which question you offended him on? What did I do now? What did I say now? You called this house arrest not real. You told him he had an illegitimate house arrest because

of COVID. What's wrong with you? Why would you say that to him? Listen, listen, I'm just saying. Oh, stop it. Listen, I'm just saying he happened to be on house arrest at the same point where everybody was basically on house arrest. I thought he was going to leave the interview when you said he was pissed. I started the interview and his excuse was, well, I couldn't go out with my family. I couldn't go out to this and that or whatever. I didn't do those things. You're not helping your case here. Oh my goodness. Good thing we already parted.

It was one of the most traumatic events that Michael Cohen has gone through. He's in house arrest and Brett basically has called it an illegitimate house arrest. But anyway, we'll see what part two holds. We'll see where Brett takes this. How will I defend our guest again on part two? There's only one way to find out Midas Mighty, and that's by listening to part two of the Michael Cohen interview on the next episode of the Midas Touch podcast. Brothers, any final words before we say goodbye to our incredible Midas Mighty listeners? Final word for me. Thank you so much to all of the Midas Mighty for all of your support this year. 2021

has been a very, very special year. Last episode of the year, fellas. Last episode of the year. New Year's resolution, go. New Year's resolution, happiness. Wrong. Brett, New Year's resolution, go. New Year's resolution in 2022. I want want to, I want to do at least one thing every single day that pushes forward something to do with pro-democracy messaging.

So, you know, whether that's making a video or, you know, doing things with minus such, I want to every single day of the year. You do that, you do that already. Wrong.

The correct answer is happiness. Shout out to the Midas Mighty!