The MeidasTouch Podcast - MORE Fox Transcripts RELEASED as Jack Smith Haunts Trump

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

On today’s episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, we break down the latest breaking stories that you need to hear. We discuss the new bombshell legal filing in Dominion’s $1.6 billion lawsuit against Fox, which exposes even more of the internal communications at Fox in the days and weeks following the 2020 election and includes transcripts of Rupert Murdoch’s deposition. Additionally, we cover Trump’s latest attacks on Jack Smith and Ron DeSantis, new polls from Fox that show their culture war nonsense is backfiring and much more! New full-length episodes of the MeidasTouch Podcast featuring the brothers are released every Tuesday & Friday morning. The rest of the week, enjoy our short-form content we call ‘The Mighty.’ If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to rate, review and subscribe. DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS: AG1 by AthleticGreens: https://athleticgreens.com/meidas Neurohacker: Visit Neurohacker.com/MEIDAS for $100 off and use code ‘MEIDAS’ at checkout for an additional 15% off your first purchase. Shop Meidas Merch at: https://store.meidastouch.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/meidastouch Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 American Psyop: https://pod.link/1652143101 Majority 54: https://pod.link/1309354521 Political Beatdown: https://pod.link/1669634407 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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charge bet mgm operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming ontario another explosive filing in dominion's 1.6 billion billion defamation lawsuit against Fox, and it was just unsealed. More emails, more text messages, and more deposition transcripts that we have not yet seen before today have been released showing how Fox maliciously and intentionally spread election disinformation about the 2020 election. The decision to spread election disinformation went all the way up to the top to Rupert Murdoch himself. His deposition transcripts were prominently featured in this recently unsealed filing. The filing also exposed Rupert Murdoch using Fox to promote Republican candidates like Lindsey Graham, providing the 2020 Trump campaign with Biden campaign TV ads before they were even released and providing other confidential information that Fox had

received about Biden, like deposition prep stuff and things like that. Some real frightening and despicable stuff here. On the topic of frightening and despicable stuff. Donald Trump went on his social media platform over the past 48 hours to again threaten and attack special counsel Jack Smith, calling Jack Smith, and this is a direct quote from Donald Trump, a mad dog psycho, a thug, and further attacking Jack Smith's wife and family and friends. Look, folks, we've said it before and we'll say it again. Trump is a menace to the world. He is a menace to democracy who needs to be locked up yesterday. After the Republicans were called out and exposed for their plans to repeal or sunset Social Security and Medicare. They're now shifting gears, right? They're shifting gears to cut trillions of dollars in Medicaid,

to cut $600 billion in the Affordable Care Act funding, to cut $400 billion in food stamps and to have the budget for the Head Start program, which provides comprehensive early childhood education, health and nutrition, and parent involvement services to lower-income children and families. And Republicans intend to demand that this be implemented implemented or they are going to force America's debt into default to cause America to forfeit on its full faith and credit. President Biden has responded. We will talk about it here. And in between calling for civil war and national divorce for red states the mega republican leader marjorie taylor green is pretending to be a fitness influencer and she's posting videos of herself flailing violently and

oddly from pull-up bars and and doing push- Yeah, you're seeing it right here. She's posting this for those who are just listening and not watching. Thank me later. And for those watching, I am so sorry. As I said before, you are watching fascism meet weirdness, and we cannot let ourselves ever be gaslit that this is normal, as large media networks try to do. But there's no doubt that there is a genuine civil war, if you will, going on within the Republican Party right now between the Trump and DeSantis factions. For example, CPAC, which promotes itself as the organization and go-to event of domestic terrorists, led by a man who was recently sued for groping the genitals of a Republican male staffer, that's now being viewed as essentially a Trump event. So DeSantis and Pence have said they aren't going there

because they're going to get booed. And you have Trump continuing to attack DeSantis every day and calling him de sanctimonious. Look, enough of this MAGA Republican madness, people. We need stability. We need decency. We need compassion. We need competence. This is the Midas Touch Network I'm Ben Mycelis joined by my brothers Brett and Jordy Mycelis I don't know if you noticed on that intro I'm not tired right now with all of the madness I've been trying to make the tone. People have noticed. People have noticed. I get some calm then. Yeah, very calm. I need, because the reality is, is that it does, when I see some of this weirdness and this fascism, it does kind of make me upset. But I just think a calmer projection of it is probably a better way to- I think it's healthier for you, B.

I think it's probably better on your blood pressure that you react like that. But I could see it both ways. I like both of your deliveries. When you watch the video like that of Marjorie Taylor Greene, how else sometimes are you supposed to react? What was that? Brett, how are you doing? We'll get into that.

But it's nice, Ben, because this is a little respite for people from the chaos where we get to dissect the chaos and we get to expose just how ridiculous it all is. And sometimes you need to expose the ridiculousness and the silliness and the weirdness of the fascism. But what we have really seen today, I mean, when I saw the Fox files that were released, what was it, last week? Yeah. My jaw was on the floor. When today's dropped and I started to read through this filing in the Dominion $1.6 billion defamation suit against Fox, where we saw even more correspondence internally at Fox between executives, between hosts, between producers. We got to see bits and pieces of the Murdoch transcript of his deposition. And reading those

just shows truly the powers that we are up against here, folks. I mean, this is really, really no joke. And that's why this community is so important. And that's why it's all the more impressive that all of you, think about this, all of you were able to take on this Fox propaganda machine and they were targeting Senate races. They were targeting congressional races. They were spreading lies and disinformation and still do to this day. But I'm specifically talking about the 2020 election right here, but they were doing all that and you guys stood up to them and you guys defeated them. And that's why this community is so important. And that's why it's so essential for us to dig into this. I am excited to dig into this. I am enraged and I'm trying to keep my calm voice on too, Ben, because I could be screaming about Murdoch here and all the corruption that's going on at Fox. But a lot to talk about. But

right off the bat, I just want to say, thank you, Midas Mighty. Thank you to this community because it's you that is the antidote to this poisonous fascism that is pervading this country. Jordy, how are you, sir? I like that, Brett. That was really, really well said. That's off the dome. I bet it was. It seemed off. You're a poet. Look, I want to mix it up here real quick. I'm doing great. What we tend to do at the end of the show is tell people to subscribe to our YouTube channel.

I'm doing that now. Look, we just crossed over 900,000 subscribers on the YouTube. And it's all thanks to you who watch every single day and listen every single day. So please, right now, we're on our way to 1 million subscribers. We've deemed it the Midas Million Member Subscriber Marathon Month. We're going to hit a million. Just come on, hit subscribe, and let's hit that 1 million this month. Let's do it. Well, I much prefer you telling people to subscribe to our YouTube channel than how you started off the last podcast by telling everybody how you had a hairy back and how

you want to shave your hair. I thought that's where that was heading too. I was worried. I wasn't sure how that transition was going to work. What did you say, Jordan? You said I shaved. It's such a lawyer move by Ben right there. You said you had it.

You're just connecting two lines. I didn't say that, Ben. I said I shaved my back. Today, I'm wearing compression shorts. Why? So I could be more aerodynamic. Okay, now we're getting back to TMI. But you know but that's what you get here at the Midas Touch Network, folks. Full transparency. Always.

Full transparency. I've been only of Jordy's body. I don't even know what the heck is happening these days. All right. You're talking about my cross-exam of Jordy. Let's talk about some real cross-examination though. And this is of the Dominion lawyers in their $1.6 billion defamation case against Fox. So the prior drop of text messages and emails and deposition transcripts came from Dominion's motion for summary judgment, where Dominion is essentially asking the court, look court, at this point, we have overwhelming evidence that Fox committed defamation of our character, of our reputation. We want you, judge, to automatically find that there is liability here. So let's just move on to the next phase, which is damages.

So let's just go to the jury on damages alone. And you may remember, for example, like the Alex Jones case, even though it was held on a different grounds because he didn't participate in discovery, so he was found in default, but that case was only on damages. He was already found to be liable. But essentially, that's what Dominion was asking. Find Fox liable based on all of the facts. No reasonable jury could ever disagree with us. The facts are just so overwhelming. So that's what that filing is. Fox, however, also filed its own motion for summary judgment. By the way, this is all going on in a Delaware Superior Court, and Fox is arguing to the judge, we want you, judge, to not even let this case get before a jury. We think that we have all of this

immunity under the First Amendment. There's a neutral news gathering privilege, which we think we fall under. We want you to grant summary judgment for us and dismiss this case brought by Dominion. So the filing that was unsealed today was a filing made in early February by Dominion, which is the opposition to the Fox motion for summary judgment. Now, if the court denies all of these summary judgment motions, which I actually think the court will probably just deny all of the summary judgment motions and just let it go before a jury because courts want to sometimes make the safe move in high profile cases. And obviously, Fox does not have a leg to stand. And I think the court should grant

Dominion's motion for summary judgment. What is Fox's motion for summary judgment? What are they asking for? Dismiss the case. Dismiss the case. It's so baffling to me because they're so guilty. Well, and their argument is the following. These crazy conspiracy theories that were out there were newsworthy. When a former president or then president is spreading conspiracy theories, we have an obligation to cover the conspiracy theories. And that's what we did. And we talked about the conspiracy theories on our program because as a news program,

these were things, and they claim that this is something called like the neutral news gathering privilege, among other arguments. Give me a freaking break. But that's what their argument is. And the give me an effing break is basically what Dominion argues in this filing. So Dominion goes, really? You claim that you are the neutral news gathering, that that's what was going on here? Let me show you these emails, deposition transcripts, and text messages. Not just, oh, these messages just kind of came out of thin air. No, it's in that context, in that posture. So let's go through this.

And so this was one of the ones that I thought were just so outrageous. And one of the things Dominion lawyers do a great job is they put some of the most compelling stuff right at the front of these motions. So when asked why Fox continues to give a platform to people like Mike Lindell, who continues to this day to spout lies about Dominion, Murdoch agreed that it's not red or blue, that what it comes down to for him is it is green. In other words, it's about the money. And that's what Murdoch said in his own words. Rupert Murdoch also acknowledged in his deposition that numerous Fox hosts had endorsed at times this false notion of a stolen election. And just look at the kind of excellent cross-examination here. Question. This is from Dominion's Lawyer. You are aware now that Fox did more than simply host

these guests and give them a platform, correct? Answer. This is from Rupert Murdoch. I think you've shown me some material in support of that question. In fact, you are now aware that Fox endorsed at times this false notion of a stolen election. Answer. Not Fox. No, not Fox, but maybe Lou Dobbs, maybe Maria as commentators. Question. We went through Fox hosts, Maria Bartiromo. Yes. Answer. Yes. Come on. We went over Fox host, Janine Pirro. Answer. I think so. Fox business host, Lou Dobbs. Oh, a lot. Question. Fox host, Sean Hannity. Murdoch, a bit. Question. All were in that document, correct? Answer. Yes, they were. Question, about Fox endorsing the

narrative of a stolen election, correct? Answer, no, some of our commentators were endorsing it. Question, about their endorsement of a stolen election. Answer, yes, they endorsed it. So I just want to applaud the lawyer there though for uh dominion because you saw rupert murdoch trying to wiggle out of it right he was saying no it's just the commentators okay let's go through the comments their opinions of the it's the opinions of the commentators it's not the fox news opinion oh is it our entire prime time lineup and all the commentators throughout the day everybody who we air on our network. Oh, sure. That doesn't mean we endorse it if we air them all day long. It's so absurd. But by the way, go back to the very first page of that deposition right there. Perfect.

So going to my point, why I'm trying to give our listeners and viewers the perspective of what the law is here and what Fox is arguing, that this is like a neutral news gathering immunity that they're arguing. It's the exact question that the lawyer's asking, right? And the lawyer doesn't phrase it and say, did you violate the neutral news gathering immunity? But this is how she phrases it. You are aware now that Fox did more than simply host these guests and give them a platform. In other words, the Fox hosts did more than just be neutral gatherers, right? And then answer, I think you've shown me some material in support of that. In other words, that right there to me

deads the summary judgment motion. And the lawyers for Dominion knew that, but that's why that question was just so brilliantly done. But you go on throughout this filing, for example, Rupert Murdoch, we learn, gave Jared Kushner access to Fox confidential information about Biden's ads, apparently showing them to him before they were public. And when you see this, for those watching, you see the deposition or you see portions of the filing. I'll read it for those just listening. During Trump's campaign, Rupert provided Trump's son-in-law and senior advisor Jared Kushner with Fox confidential information about Biden's ads, along with debate strategy. And now when you see there, it says EX 600, R Murdoch 210, 6-9, 213, 17-20, EX 603.

What that just means is exhibit 600. R Murdoch means that's the deposition of Rupert Murdoch. And where this is specifically admitted to by Murdoch is page 210, lines 6 through 9, page 213, lines 17 to 20, and exhibit 603, which is likely an email where the preview of Biden's ads were turned over by Murdoch, directly by Murdoch to Jared Kushner. So that's what that means if you're following along with the filing and you see like, what are all these words there? That's what it means. These are just direct quotes from deposition transcripts, right? It's not spin. It's not exaggeration. It's not a theory that, oh, maybe this happened. No, it sure seemed like they were working together. This is Rupert Murdoch himself saying it. And it really shows you that the phrase is true, that every accusation with these people is always a confession

every single time. How often has Trump in his deranged posts, in his deranged speeches that he gives around the country to these weird crowds in bizarre parking lots and various places, does he say, they spied on my campaign. They spied on my campaign. Meanwhile, he, Fox, Rupert Murdoch, Jared Kushner, were all colluding together and were actually spying on the Biden campaign. That's what we're learning here. And just think about the breach of trust here. The breach of just basic business ethics. The Biden campaign buys an ad time on Fox News. Rupert Murdoch finds out about it. And the first thing he does is he runs to Jared Kushner and the Trump campaign to give him an exclusive sneak peek on the ad that Biden's running, that right there is collusion.

That right there is election interference coming from Fox. This is not a news network. This is a propaganda network. If anything, this is also just like a super PAC. This is a political organization. This is not even resembling any bit of a news network. I agree with you, Brett. And you remember when the political action arm of Midas tried to buy an ad on Fox about the January 6th insurrection, and we just displayed the facts. They refused to run it despite the fact that the Midas political action arm wanted to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in order to run that ad. They refused to do it. They suppressed that. And that ultimately kind of like, I wonder if Rupert Murdoch was

ultimately involved in that decision because I think he probably was. We see how intimately involved he is in all of these decision makings. Let's go down, Brett, to what we have marked as photo 11, which is a Lachlan Murdoch to Suzanne Scott. Suzanne Scott's the CEO of Fox, and this is about Fox's coverage of a November 14th pro-Trump rally. Going into the filing, Scott responded, yes, thanks. When Lachlan then criticized Leland Vitter's coverage as, quote, smug and obnoxious, Scott said she was, quote, calling now to direct Vitter's producer to fix the issue. And indeed, she did. Executive David Clark reported, quote, also got a call by Jay, who heard from SS, Suzanne

Scott, the CEO, that Leland was being smug and condescending. I texted him and told him to cut it out. And DCEP spoke to him, other executives spoke to him. Lachlan even gave his input on the chyron that appeared at the bottom of the broadcast telling Suzanne Scott, the CEO, quote, the ticker at the bottom of the screen is all wrong, way too wordy, and anti-Trump whenever possible. Why is it like this? And then there's the one that basically says the narrative should be a huge celebration of the president. They want this weird conspiracy theory pro-Trump rally, that the narrative should be a celebration of Donald Trump there. I mean, again, just think about that. And so here's one that Rupert Murdoch, more from the deposition of Rupert Murdoch, and this was a question, and you could have said to

Suzanne Scott, again, the CEO or the host, with all of these election deniers that you're putting on, like Rudy Giuliani, and let's just pull it up here. Right now, for those listening, we're just pulling up the deposition. Rupert confirmed Murdoch in his deposition in page 145, lines 8 through 13, exhibit 600. Again, this isn't my opinion or Midas' touch opinion. This is what Rupert Murdoch said in his deposition. Rupert confirmed that he, quote, could have told Suzanne Scott, stop hosting Sidney Powell. He said the same about Giuliani. Question. And you could have said to Suzanne Scott, who's the CEO, or to the host, stop putting Rudy Giuliani on the air. Answer from Rupert Murdoch, I could have, but I didn't. I could have, but I didn't. Think about that. Go to this next one. I think it's photo 14, which talks about how

on January 5th, 2021, a day before the insurrection, there was all of these conversations by Rupert Murdoch and others about putting out a statement. Could they put out some statement before January 6th to stop the myth that the election was stolen? They ultimately didn't. And this is, I think, one of the most powerful portions of this filing by Dominion. Here it goes. Rupert understood that Fox could do something about the false claims. Indeed, he believed that Fox was, quote, uniquely positioned to state the message that the election was not stolen. Yeah, because they spread it.

On January 5th, Rupert and Scott, again, the CEO, that's who Scott is, discussed whether Hannity, Carlson, and Ingraham should say some version of the election is over and Joe Biden won. He hoped those words, quote, would go a long way to stop the Trump myth that the election was stolen. Scott, again, the CEO of Fox, told Rupert, and here's the part I want everyone to pay attention to, that, quote, privately, they are all there. But, quote, we need to be careful about using the shows and pissing off the viewers. So nobody made a statement. The next day was January 6th. This portion, go back to it one more time. Go back to that one more time. So the CEO of Fox told Rupert Murdoch, the owner of Fox, that privately, they are all there. Just a reminder, who is they? Hannity, Carlson, Ingram.

And what does it mean privately they are all there? That the election is over and Joe Biden won. However, quote, we need to be careful about using the shows and pissing off viewers so nobody made a statement. The next day, there was an insurrection against our democracy. To me, that part almost more than any was a mic drop moment, but was a real, real tragedy for this great country and for our democracy right there. And frankly, there needs to be accountability. What do you think about that statement, Brett and Jordy? I think it's interesting because I think it shows you also how

fragile Fox News is as an entity, how scared they are. You always think of them as having, they're in control of the narrative and they're this big machine and they are. But in this moment, you see what is the threat to that house of cards. And in this case, it's their audience leaving for a more extreme version of them. So they have radicalized their viewers, who in turn are constantly seeking more conspiratorial material to consume. They've put them in a alternate version of reality, just this bizarro world, this fake phony world full of lies and conspiracy theories. And when the truth comes in and all of a sudden those conspiracy theories are not coming

true and they're faced with reality, they're faced with the actual truth, Fox finds themselves between a rock and a hard place. They find themselves having to make a decision, which other news networks do not have to do, which is do we lie to our viewers and further spread conspiracy theories, or do we risk them leaving to go to even more unhinged places that are going to feed our viewers with what they are looking for? We're going to pump them full of lies. They're going to run off to their next safe space because no matter what all these people say, and they try to act like they're tough and, oh, look at all the woke people on the other side.

These are weak, weak-willed people who just want to be fed lies. They want to live in this fantasy land. And so you have Fox identifying that and freaking out that it's all over. It's all going to be over if we pivot. Oh, Trump is going to come after us and we don't want Trump to be angry. I mean, it's so incredibly pathetic just all around and the way they all kind of manipulate each other and are working off each other, them to the viewers, the viewers to them, the Newsmaxes. It's just like this web of just dishonest grifters that you see just lying to

the public for monetary gain. And they admit it right there in the thing by saying, all I care about is green. All I care about is green. They're just full on liars and they are selling out our democracy for profit. And you cannot look at this any other way than a full on attack on our democracy, whether it's for profit or for power. In this case, I do think it's a lot for profit, but they are just, this is an attack on America. This is an attack on US democracy like we've never seen before. And we are seeing this outlined in black and white in these filings. 1000% Brett. And that's the part of the filing that actually stood out to me the most. When he goes, it's not red or blue, it's green. It's actually an old Michael Jordan quote,

but we're not going to go there for right now. It's unbelievable to me. Unbelievable that we just allow this man, this Rupert Murdoch, to poison America, to poison Americans, to poison your parents, to poison our military bases, to poison just this country at large with lies. And he knows their lies. I don't know what can be done about this. Ultimately, this is what I want. I want to see his ass deported. And I know that's, you know, what's that going to do? Well, in no stream of life would we let this behavior, this terrorism continue to go on and on and on and go unchecked and unfiltered.

It's absolutely appalling and ridiculous. And the strain is leading to people's deaths. This coverage, it's not news. We know it's not news. We know it's not news. Everyone knows it's not news. But the lies are deadly. They're killing Americans. And they're poisoning the minds of generations of Americans.

And we're just all sitting by and letting it happen to us. And so I say deport the guy. Get him the fuck out of this country. He's not an American. He's an asshole. He hates this country. They all hate this country. Where do you want to deport him to? Just get him out. Get him out. I don't get him out. I'm not sure. I'm not Brett, your microphone, man.

I assume Australia would be the place. And sorry to our Australian listeners for the suggestion of you having to deal with- Send him to Mars. Get him out. At your place. But keep in mind also what was happening in the background while all this was going on. I mean, Fox was hosting presidential debates. Fox is pretending to be a legitimate news network out there. And you have the major political parties, obviously the Republicans, but you also have the Democrats treating them as if they are a legitimate news organization because they have to play along with this game. And I think we really need to start asking these hard questions of,

do we want to be legitimizing this kind of network? And I know it's tough. I know we want to reach these viewers. And I understand that you're in a tough place because you have these people that have secluded themselves behind this bubble of disinformation, and you want to reach them with the truth. You don't want them to just be hearing one side of the story all the time. So we often applaud Secretary Pete Buttigieg when he goes on Fox or when other Biden officials go on Fox or when Democrats do a great job on Fox. But I think we do have to, as a

country, I think the Democrats as a political party, I think anybody who is pro-democracy in this country, pro-democracy, disaffected Republicans, whoever it may be, I think we have to have the conversation of, is it worth it to lend this network, which has been proven to be not just a dishonest actor, but a full-on propaganda arm that would make the likes of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un blush at the sight of this thing? Do we want to give them that legitimacy by putting our top officials on these networks? I mean, it's a tough decision, but I think we got to have that combo. The same way that we don't refer to Republicans as conservative anymore because it is a false narrative and we refer to them as MAGA Republicans.

We refer to them as extremists and radicals or Trump cultists. I don't think we can refer to Fox without making it clear. It is propaganda, is a propaganda network. That's just what it is. And I think anybody who's pro-democracy shouldn't be nervous about kind of just calling it out. We can still spread the truth, but it's by legitimizing the platform is actually how the lies are able to spread the way they are because they're not called out. That was one of the things that the reason that Dominion ultimately was kind of brought into this when Sidney Powell was able to take her completely deranged conspiracy theories and pure

disinformation onto Fox, it was then cloaked with a level of legitimacy that it did not have before. And then Fox was like, wow, we're getting good ratings for this. Keep it coming. Let's get on Giuliani. Let's get on all these election deniers. Then let's keep spreading it. Let's pump it. Let's pump it. And that's the problem when it gets legitimacy. So frankly, even when you as a Democrat show up on the network, what you are ultimately doing though, and here's the thing, and I'm with you, I know we need to reach certain people, but I think there are other ways to reach people. I think talking to people intelligently and compassionately with the truth and building new networks is an important thing that pro-democracy generally, the pro-democracy community needs to invest in because by giving Fox this sign that it is a news network, they are then able to spend the remaining 99.9% of the time injecting this disinformation and basically serving as a political arm of the Republican Party, not even the leader of the Republican Party.

I mean, just look at here, for example, and this is photo 21, and then we'll hit photo 24 in a bit. So in this one right here, this is an example of Murdoch's direct influence over Fox, though, and talking about the messaging they wanted about a tax bill of Donald Trump. And so here, as Murdoch explained with respect to Dobbs, we'll go down, Rupert could have suggested at any point to fire Dobbs. However, he had good reason to keep him around through the 2020 election, despite believing he was an extremist as of September 2020. Dobbs was popular with both Trump and his supporters, and nobody wants Trump as an enemy because he had a great big following. So that's an example of even though he knew that Dobbs should be fired, he's like, let's keep him on at this point. But another example is when

Rupert Murdoch talked about Trump's new tax bill and told Suzanne Scott, we must tell our viewers again and again what it is they're going to get in this tax bill. We need to push Trump's tax plan to our viewers and explain it over and over and over again to them. And here's another example too, where Rupert Murdoch asked Suzanne Scott to have Sean Hannity say something nice about Lindsey Graham. And notice the language here that they say about Lindsey Graham, where they say, this is what Murdoch is saying, we cannot lose the Senate if at all possible. We, when Lindsey Graham was running for the Senate in October 2020, Rupert wrote to Scott, you probably know about the Lou Dobbs outburst against Lindsey Graham.

Could Sean Hannity say something supportive, meaning of Lindsey Graham, quote, we cannot lose the Senate if at all possible. Again, that's not a news network right there, right? That is a propaganda arm. And then go to Lachlan's deposition where at his deposition, Lachlan cannot recall a single instance when Fox did not follow one of his suggestions or Rupert's suggestions. In other words, what they say goes. And this reminds me of what happened over the weekend too, where there was a host of a show called Media Buzz on Fox, which is supposed to cover the media. And Howard Kurtz is the host who said, I want to talk about the Dominion defamation lawsuit, because the whole point of this show Media Buzz is to cover big events involving

the media. So the biggest defamation lawsuit in the history of the media is big news. But Howard Kurtz says, a lot of people are asking me, can I cover this? And I would like to cover it, but I can't because they're not letting me at Fox. This seemed to go a little bit off script of what I'm sure Rupert Murdoch would have liked, but play this video of Howard Kurtz. Some of you have been asking why I'm not covering the Dominion voting machines lawsuit against Fox involving the unproven claims of election fraud in 2020, and it's absolutely a fair question. I believe I should be covering it. It's a major media story given my role here at Fox, but the company has decided that as part of the organization being sued, I can't talk about it or write about

it, at least for now. I strongly disagree with that decision, but as an employee, I have to abide by it. And if that changes, I'll let you know. The whole idea is so insane to me. As an employee, I mean, you know you don't have to work for the fascist corporation. Like you don't. And by the way, someone in his position actually doesn't, right? Here's someone who's been like, he thinks that he can't get a job anywhere else. So he has to perpetuate the fascist ideology of Fox. I mean, here's someone who's so blessed to have that position too, that many Americans would love to have. Like you have your host, you're probably making millions of dollars a year or whatever

position you're in. And he actually has the ability to switch jobs. Like my employer tells me I cannot stand up to fascism. So I'm going to have to just support the fascism because my corporation tells me, Jordy. Ben, you're so right because what he's thinking there is, oh, I'm taking the high road on this one. I'm going to look like the good guy here. Hey, buddy, you don't got to work there. Get out. You don't have to work there. Don't work for the fascist company. It's just so upsetting to me that this just continues to happen because ultimately what Fox News is doing, they're hurting good Americans. There are good people who are honestly tricked by their

coverage into thinking that they are a legitimate news station. And then the propaganda just turns into anger and it turns into just all around death and destruction that this one network, this entertainment network has caused. Get them out. Get them out. Think about Jordy hardworking Americans who maybe work one job and they're making minimum wage or they're working multiple jobs in order to just barely get by working really hard. And they're in this position because of MAGA Republican policies perpetuated by Fox. And there you have a Fox host who's making millions of dollars, who's part of that infrastructure, who can get out, who can find another job somewhere. But because of their privilege, they want to aid and abet the fascist

network to cripple the rest of America. And without even a shred of irony, he tries to present himself as the good guy in that video. But that is absolutely not what we're going to allow to take place. Brett? It reminds me of Jordy's comment from last week when we were speaking about Mitt Romney still being a Republican. And I think your statements last week, Jordy, I think they really apply to these quote unquote straight news reporters. What I called Romney a schmuck? That one in particular. I'm not sure that's what you called it, but you basically said like, how could you stay in this party? How could you be in the Republican party? Because you are giving cover to the extremists by refusing to leave the

party. And I understood your point when you said that, and I understand that especially so with those who consider themselves to be real journalists who work at Fox. Because to me, all you are doing at this point is you are giving cover to a fascist propaganda network that is so dangerous to our society, dangerous to our country, dangerous to the world. You are complicit in that destruction if you work there. I don't care if your dream is to work as a reporter and you got this great internship. I don't care. You need to consider your morals before you work for this company.

They have been exposed for the world to see. It's not even up to debate. And you could have all the right-wing MAGA people, whoever, tell you that this is fake news or whatever, but it's there for you to read. It's there coming out of Rupert Murdoch's mouth. So you could willfully blind yourself all you want. All you're doing is you are propping up one of the most dangerous forces to ever be inflicted on this country. And if you actually do love this country, if you actually do love the United States, you have to get out. It's the only move. You have to leave. I agree. There's no ambiguity there because you're then enabling a situation where you have a former president calling federal prosecutors thugs, mad dogs, psycho, which is just frankly

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to try quality of mind with code Midas to experience life-changing mental performance. Welcome back to the show. Before talking about these recent statements by Donald Trump, I want to point out, this is one of the Midas Mighty members who reached out to me on social media.

They haven't given me the okay to share their name yet, so I'll just read for you the post. The post says, My parents watch Fox, and when the Dominion filing dropped, I watched a video by Ben Micellus. He read all of the internal Fox messages with my mom. So she watched the video with her mom and she actually had me stop it twice to ask me questions about Ben's video. She was quiet and seemed very mad, but didn't say anything.

I am hopeful, but skeptical. We've prepared here at the Midas Touch Network another video of the most recent drop, which is about 47 minutes. Because I go through the entire filing. What was it? 5.5 gigs or something when I sent you the file? It was a big file. I got to get a new hard drive for this one. Big file. Jordy's like, so you basically did just another podcast? And I said, no, no, it's a YouTube video. I have big distinctions.

Very specific about it. But the point is you can check that out on our YouTube channel. But we're going to release that tonight after this podcast. share this video, the way we shape these videos with the truth, but how we study history of authoritarians of the past, how we study cult deprogramming, how we study disinformation and how to make sure that the truth is understood. There is also a method to the way these videos are being made, and they're intended to be shareable with people in your family. And I always say the most important force behind the Midas Touch Network is the Midas Mighty, because with millions of Midas Mighty out mightest mighty out there, the exponential reach that you all have to share these messages every day with neighbors and family members and people who may be once part of MAGA or people who just

don't follow politics, you can show them these videos and hopefully they're having the impact that we want them to have, which is to tell the truth, to do it in a way that is digestible. That is a way that I think large media networks should be doing it, but we have to rethink the way media networks are made. And Brett, I think that's, to your point, one of the ways we combat Fox is not by enabling it, but it's actually creating our own, this is what we're doing, our own media network that rethinks the way media needs to happen. Because look what we're up against too. This is so embarrassing that there is a former person who occupied the White House who's out there saying things like this every single day.

So over the weekend, this is what Trump wrote on his social media platform. Mad dog psycho Jack Smith put there for only one reason by Biden and the weaponized justice department should stop this witch hunt altogether or or at a minimum, should give Biden, Obama, and all of the others the same treatment. I mean, he's so obsessed with Obama. The last time I checked Obama, what does Obama have to do with anything whatsoever? Let's reflect on a few things here. One, the fact that he's calling Jack Smith, who's engaged in a current criminal investigation, mad dog psycho, which by the way, is a pretty bad ass.

Oh, hell yeah. Let me just say, if you were to name me Mad Dog Psycho Mycelis, I'd be like,. It's not Mad Dog Mycelis? like, rawr. He's a mad dog, my cellist. Rawr. Rawr. No, I mean, rule number one in trying to give somebody a childish nickname, and I know I'm speaking to an expert at this. There's something Trump has traditionally been good at. I'll give him that. But it seems like he's lost his fastball a little bit over these past few months. This campaign, the nicknames, they just ain't hidden the same way they used to hit. And rule number one of making a childish nickname

to mock somebody with is don't make them sound so damn cool. I mean, Mad Dog Jack Smith, that's your nickname for the guy? Next he's gonna call Jack Smith T-bone. Yo, what's up T-bone Jack Smith? Like that old badass Ben Mice Marcellus coming down the pocket. You're like, is that supposed to be offensive? Yeah. Good old sharpshooter Jack Smith out with the fastest hands in the West, sharpshooter Jack.

You could call me Mad Dog if you want. I'm Mad Dog Michaelis, MDM. I'm okay with it. Sounds good, Mad Dog. Mad Dog. And all others, the same treatment. By the way, Biden, former Vice President Pence, they were like, all right, DOJ, you want to search our spots? All good. Come in. Whatever you need, you don't need search warrants. Come to our residence. You can take whatever you want. Donald Trump, for basically two years, obstructing justice, continuing to obstruct justice by calling the special counsel a mad dog, but lying, submitting false declarations, false attestation, saying all of the documents have been returned. Department of Justice,

top counterintelligence official, which is just a complete lie. They were not. That's why they eventually had to get a search warrant on August 8th because they were lied to. They got false declarations from Donald Trump. That's why he is where he is. You don't see former Vice President Pence saying, mad dog psycho. You don't see Biden's like, here's what we need to do for the American people. We need to help you with jobs, infrastructure. That's what Biden's talking about. He's not saying mad dog psycho. And Trump's like, big Merrick Garland. The special counsel that Merrick Garland appointed to investigate Biden is somebody who Donald Trump

appointed. And I know for Donald Trump now, everybody he appointed is now a rhino. They call them uniparty rhinos because if you're not like this, pull up the video of Marjorie Taylor Greene. This is what it means to be a Republican in 2023. The MAGA Republican Party, folks. May I introduce you to their leader, Marjorie Taylor Greene, a MAGA Republican. And this is who they are. So if you're not like this and you're not calling for a national divorce and civil war, you're not in the Trump faction of the Republican Party. Even the DeSantis faction, which is book banning and taking over Disneyland, that's not extreme enough. You got to go right on that pull-up bar and start swinging and demanding

civil war. Yeah, Ben, can you explain this video to our audio listeners just so they get a picture? Okay. You have Marjorie Taylor Greene on a pull-up bar, kind of thrusting, hanging down, thrusting back and forth. And look, she posts this in between calling for civil war in the United States. I guess a video of how she feels this is her preparation for the national divorce. And I do want to say this one thing, though, about national divorce. And here's why I think she calls it divorce, though, and not a civil war, because she still basically wants the blue states to pay the red states as part of the settlement, as part of the divorce settlement.

She still has a view that the red states need that to happen. So I think that's one of the reasons. But she calls for a civil war, a national divorce over and over again and posts a video of herself flailing back and forth. I don't even know what to make of it and uh in the original uh video she uses this sia song unstoppable and she has like this this caption on the video which is like you know it's like one of those cringy captions that you see like your friend reading when they post like a workout post she goes, and spirit. Be unstoppable. What is this, a Nike ad? What the

heck? It feels like a Zoolander ad. It's like a Zoolander ad. Part of this Republican like Donald Trump, because you have to remember, this is built on the image of Donald Trump, like a reality actor who lies about everything. So they're modeling their behavior based on him. So that's why you have like, they all just want to be like, they're all like, kind of like failed actors and actors. Like they all want to be famous and they view their roles as podcasters and as entertainers in this performative fascist outrage game that they play, but it's a very dangerous game because in order, and this is what we were all talking about yesterday. So you win, one of the prizes you win for being fascist is you get invited on Tucker. So it's like, okay, you praise Putin, you praise,

you praise, you know, you do an anti-Ukraine, you say, lock Dr. Fauci up, you get invited on Tucker, which is part of their currency for what it means to be a MAGA Republican in 2023. And you have to one up the outrage machine where now it's just like civil war, civil war. That's where they're at and talking about. Yeah. I mean, you have a time period right now where for all these years, and I've said this on the podcast like two years ago, and it just becomes more and more true every single day. Crazy that you can say that statement. We sat down the podcast two years ago. Wow, we've been doing this podcast for a minute now. Let's go.

Minus the podcast, right? Look at that. Let's go. Midas Touch Podcast, right? Let's go. Let's go. All thanks to the Midas. Start interrupting. I said this quite a bit ago, but it rings true to this day, which is essentially that, to paraphrase myself, Jordy, essentially, to quote a wise man, badass Brett Micellus. There you go. No, these Republicans were okay with democracy for a very long time because democracy allowed them to exercise their goals and it allowed them to create the society that they wanted

because frankly, there was more of them and they instituted a system in which they would have all the power. And now they have found themselves in a much different place, in a much more diverse America, where all of a sudden, democracy is no longer serving their vision of an America run in a white supremacist fashion. It's not supporting an America that gives them everything they want. All of a sudden, you have these things like diversity and inclusion and equity, and you have people marrying who they want to marry, and you have women able to get the jobs they want and have their own bank accounts. And you have all of this stuff that they cannot handle. And it's chipped away at them for years and years and years as we've seen this progress in America incrementally. And now it's been an exponential change in our society where we're

seeing this diverse America. We're seeing this new vision of America, this vision of the future. And that terrifies these Republicans who are looking at this landscape and are saying, oh, shoot, we can't win an election anymore. Our ideas are no longer popular. These are no longer winning issues. And we're outnumbered. We're outnumbered. So what are we going to do? We're going to get better ideas?

No, because we don't want those ideas in this America. That's not what we want for this country. We're going to stick to our ideas. We want to be able to subjugate our citizens. We want to continue to rule. We don't want that diversity. We don't want all that stuff. So what are we going to do? How are we going to get votes? We're not. We're not going to get votes. We're going to implement an autocracy here in America that resembles Vladimir Putin's Russia, that resembles Kim Jong-un's North Korea, and we're going to do that here. And we're going to work with these people who are the Democrats called the enemies, or our enemies, but we're going to call them our friends. We're going to call Vladimir Putin our friend. We're going to call Kim Jong-un,

oh, he writes these beautiful love letters to me. And we're going to form this whole axis of autocracy because that's the America that I prefer as a Republican. And that has been the philosophy and we see them executing on that philosophy every single day. Democracy no longer serves the interests of this Republican party. Dang. That was really well said, Brett. I got some smart brothers. Sometimes I just have to reflect, I got some really smart brothers over here. Dang. Hey, can you play the video of Marjorie Taylor Greene one more time? Yeah, but you got to comment on it. I will comment on it because I actually do have a theory here. So like you said, she posted this behind a Sia song, Brett. I'm not a music person. This is a Sia song. Yeah. So a few weeks back, she did this same playbook where she did

this to Dre. She posted a video with a Dre song. And then she ultimately got all this publicity because she got her account taken down because in no way, shape or form is she actually licensing the music for these artists. So when these artists then see their music being used inappropriately for videos of terrorists like Marjorie Taylor Greene, they get pissed off. They're like, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, you gotta pull that video down or pull your account down.

And then they have their people pull that stuff. I could almost predict that this is the same playbook is being played out here. She just didn't get the attention that she wanted. And now she just looks like a total fool. Yeah. I just think it's very weird that she's posting that one of one and it's in between calling for a national divorce. Sandwiched in between this post right here, which says, this is from Marjorie Taylor Greene's official government account. Temperature of America, she says. Americans do not support the war in Ukraine at all

and are very turned off with Washington for funding and pushing the war. We want peace, and Americans support a national divorce into red states and blue states with a small, limited federal government. This is the person who Kevin McCarthy, the weakest speaker of the House, the mega Republican speaker of the House, has placed her as essentially the number

two most powerful Republican in the House of Representatives. So we no longer talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene as a fringe figure. Marjorie Taylor Greene is who the Republican Party is in 2023. That's just who they are. And they're all like that. I mean, who are you going to go? Comer, Paul Gosar, Lauren Boebert, Gates. I mean, you really can't name, other than Romney as the senator, you really can't name for me a Republican who is either not an outright extremist or who is so weak that they've made their own views subservient to the MAGA Republican. It's either one of those two right now. And by the way, if you are one of the quote unquote normal ones, you probably do not know their names and they are probably not given committee seats and all the important seats that Kevin McCarthy is giving to the most extreme factions of the party. And we have for so long said that Marjorie Taylor Greene is the epitome of the Republican Party. And we had people a year, two years back going, she's a random representative from Georgia. What do you mean? I'm telling you, this is where the Republican Party is at. And it didn't even take, what,

more than a year, more than just months of us saying that for Kevin McCarthy to give her some of the most high profile positions, some of the most powerful positions in all of Congress. And what does she do immediately when she gets that power? She is a US Congress person who swore an oath to uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. And she is calling for secession from the United States, saying it's inevitable, saying that we need to be split up between red and blue states. By the way, while she lives in a state with two Democratic senators, a state where Democrats have won their last four federal elections, I mean, the whole thing is so absurd, but so dangerous at the same time. And that's why when we pull up these clowns like Marjorie Taylor Greene, and we say, this is where the Republican Party is at. That's why we got to be tuned in to what's actually going on at the ground level of these

parties. And it really shows you all the difference because you could have these accounts, these libs of TikTok or whatever sort of right-wing accounts. And they show you some random professor in some random town that some person you some person you've never even heard of doing something wacky and they go look i don't even know by the way if they're democrat like i don't know who these people are who these people are and they go look or what i because they don't i don't they're not they're not speaking for me i don't know who these people are and they go look look how crazy these democrats are these libs, look how nuts they are. Oh my gosh, these are radical extremists. And for me, I'm always like, I don't know who this person is.

They don't believe anything. You're trying to paint everybody who is pro-democracy with the brush of whatever nut you just found and you clipped off six seconds of a clip to make it look even worse. And that's what you want to do? That's disingenuous. That's dishonest. But we are pointing out people who are at the epicenter of the Republican Party. You don't see Hakeem Jeffries taking that student and making him the head of committees. That's the difference right now between the parties. That's why people go, but both sides have extra, both sides have... No, they don't. They don't. There may be people on the quote unquote left of the political spectrum who have extreme views. They're not in government and they don't have positions that are affecting your lives. These are random people who they are plucking out of nowhere to try to paint everybody

with this extremist broad brush. When they are staring you in the face and they have a news network, a propaganda network that is pushing this forward. I mean, that's the extreme stuff. They're trying to gaslight away from their own extremism all the time. All the time because it's always projection. I mean, here's an example. Look, Donald Trump's other post, the psycho prosecutor assigned to me for the documents hoax, Jack Smith, question mark? And by the way, when he does Jack Smith, let me just tell you the dog whistle that he's basically saying. He's basically saying that Jack Smith is Jewish and that that can't possibly be his name.

So just so you know what that actually means, that's what he's trying to convey right there, just so you know. The psycho prosecutor assigned to me for the document hoax, Jack Smith, is not only together with his wife, family, and friends, a massive Trump hater of historic proportions, but also someone that viciously and unscrupulously pursued others only to be overturned unanimously by the Supreme Court. Why don't they have a, quote, thug like this going after Biden, who really did commit crimes? His prosecutor is a nice guy, not a Trump-hating monster. Very unfair, but people get it. Aside from the fact that everything in this thing is utterly false, and now they want to spread a conspiracy that Jack Smith's name really isn't Jack Smith, and you have Donald

Trump posting a photo of himself with his face with the American flag desecrating our great flag on his face. Donald Trump appointed the special counsel that Merrick Garland appointed to investigate Biden. It's Trump's guy. It's Trump's person right there. But at the very top of their cult in Magiverse is Donald Trump, who is a completely deranged, unhinged, lunatic, wannabe fascist who is stating all of these things. And you can go, people go, well, why are you giving this air time? Why are you talking about it? Well, you can't close your eyes and cover your ears to the reality. And one of the things we always do here on the Midas Touch Network is we show the contrast, right? We show the

contrast between here are your choices of who do you want to lead? Who do you want to make decisions over your family? Because that's what it is when you elect politicians. This isn't a movie. This isn't funny. These are people who make life and death decisions over you. So do you want Marjorie Taylor Greene? Do you want Donald Trump? Or do you want someone like President Biden and Hakeem Jeffries? Do you want people who are out there not calling federal prosecutors psychos and mad dog psychos, but who are every day relentlessly talking about jobs, who are talking about making sure that you can have better working conditions, who are out there talking about protecting Social Security and Medicare and all of these other government programs that you are entitled to, that you deserve, that you paid into. I like the fact that Biden and Hakeem Jeffries and Democrats are talking about infrastructure. They're talking about bringing the high-paying jobs here. They're talking about bringing manufacturing jobs here. They're talking

about the importance of unions and other worker protections. I like that they're talking about a woman's right to control her body. I like that they're saying that the government should stay away from the decisions of people in the LGBTQ plus community to marry who it is they love without people like Matt Gaetz and Jim Jordan saying that they're the ones who make those decisions. I like that Democrats are talking about lowering prescription drug prices and talking about making healthcare, especially life-saving care, accessible and affordable to all, making education accessible and affordable to all. That's what I like because that impacts me. That impacts my community. That impacts my family.

That impacts my country. I like that I have pro-democracy leaders like Biden and Akeem Jeffries and others who are supporting our allies abroad, who are promoting democracy internationally, and who are not supporting Vladimir Putin and elevating crazy dictators like Kim Jong-un. I don't like that Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans say that they have romantic feelings for Kim Jong-un. I find that incredibly dangerous and I also find it incredibly weird. So here on the Midas Touch podcast, we talk about the contrast. We talk about the contrast. And one of the interesting things that I also want to talk about though too is how the Republican party right now is kind of trying to figure out what they can do with Donald Trump. I want to

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Appreciate you, Mad Dog. Here's the thing, Brett. I think my own view- Use code Midas. Use the code Midas. When we're talking about the MAGA Republican Party, though, I don't think DeSantis can even win Florida against Trump. That's how extreme I think the MAGA Republican Party is. I think you're right. I don't think DeSantis can win. We were talking about it earlier, Brett, on my ride to the school where I

teach earlier. And I said to you, I was thinking, I was like, I don't think DeSantis will win Florida. I think the base of MAGA primary voters has become such a cult. Here's one of my evidence for it desantis is afraid to even go to cpac he's gone every year he's afraid to go to cpac because he's afraid he's going to get booed and could you imagine him on his he's afraid of donald trump you have to remember desantis is actually a very weak person he's a very very weak insecure person insecure person. He's very emotional. He's a very, very emotional and erratic person. And that's how he channels all of this. And he's not bright. He's brighter than Trump, but he boils it down to woke because he doesn't know how to say anything else. So for him, he just tries to go to this is woke.

That's woke. And his presentation of it is a cleaner version and more palatable to the MAGA Republicans of what their ultimate end ambition is, which is still to destroy democracy. That's why when I say people like Jeb Bush and others, Jeb Bush doesn't get credit. Jeb Bush is okay with throwing out democracy. He supports DeSantis. Even before DeSantis has put his hat into it, look at what jeb bush said if we've got that clip here play this clip jeb i think it's pretty remarkable and he hasn't declared yet many in the republican party hope he soon will is this ron desantis's opportunity to run for higher office i think it is he's He's been a really effective governor. All right, I can't watch this. He's young.

I think we're... Let's also speak about it, though, because we didn't set it up. This is not a DeSantis campaign advertisement that you just heard. It might have sounded like one. It probably should be considered one. But it ties in full circle with the Fox files

that we read you earlier in this show. Exactly. This is Fox Republican Propaganda Network, fake news network. This is Fox producing a campaign ad for Ron DeSantis because they are trying so desperately to get away from Trump because you see their internal feelings about Trump throughout all these documents. You know the way they really feel and they want to try to- Well, here's the thing, Brett. They don't think he can win. If they thought Trump could win, they're green. They don't care. They just think that he can't win.

And they want to prop up now DeSantis because they think DeSantis is the guy who could get through the evil policies that they want to get through, but in a more palatable way. And it's just, I don't even have words for this next one, but I want to just show you quickly the preview that Fox had for this show. And this is a full show that they did on there. I believe it's an app. It's called Fox Nation. I think you can watch it online, their streaming service. Here is the preview that Fox ran for this special they did about Ron DeSantis. Fox Nation's hit docu-series is back. Who is Ron DeSantis? We will never, ever surrender to the woke mob. Florida is where woke goes to die. He was in the Middle East

advising SEAL Team 1. To advise them, you have to be the best of the best. He's a to die. He was in the Middle East advising SEAL Team 1. To advise them, you have to be the best of the best. He's a good man. He's a good husband. He's a good father. Is this Ron DeSantis' opportunity to run for higher office? I think it is. Who is Ron DeSantis? Streaming now only on Fox Nation. What the hell was that?

I mean, it's so absurd. And for the audio listeners, the big letters that flash across the screen as they go from subject to subject, it says Florida's freedom fighter, Navy veteran, family man, presidential candidate, question mark. It's just wild how they prime their viewers and try to push this guy on people. And they throw Jeb even in the preview because I think they view Jeb as a more kind of moderate, palatable guy. And maybe, oh, if Jeb supports him, maybe we could get the normal people to also support him.

And we get the extreme people too, and we get the best of both worlds. Who the heck do they think Jeb Bush is appealing to though? Like Jeb Bush couldn't even get votes for his own campaign. You think he's got enough political cash to get votes for Ron DeSantis' campaign? I mean, you just got to remember back at that moment during his, the please clap moment,

one of the defining political moments of that Republican campaign. But it really sums up though. It shows you though also- Well, Brett, Brett, W's too woke for Fox these days. W's too woke. W's too woke for Fox these days. W's too woke. W's too woke for Fox. Go, Brett. I want to give you my theory on, I think the whole woke thing, honestly. I think that the right wing has now, they've overplayed their hand with it.

They got the initial woke thing that they wanted out of it for about a year and a half. It's not getting the same returns. They're not getting the same returns for the woke anymore. And I think, honestly, a lot of people, even in their own base now, though, it's a very easy way to, okay, so where was this woke? Can you explain? And they can never actually define it. So it actually can be reverse weaponized. And I've seen a lot of pro-democracy and Democrats who have now kind of reversed it on them.

Okay, define woke. And they don't know what to do and they just look so dumb on stage. The macro problems. Can we just show this is what Trump said in response to that? We got to watch the Jeb Bush please clap clip. Oh, you have it?

You're still prepared. You're still good, Brett. I think the next president needs to be a lot quieter, but send a signal that we're prepared to act in the national security interests of this country to get back in the business of creating a more peaceful world. Please clap. Please clap. Six years later or whatever it is, it's just as brutal. Maybe worse.

You know what? Can I give you a confession? I don't remember that clip. What do you mean? I don't remember it. Can I say something? Why do you- I don't remember it. I mean, when I saw that, I forgot that that was a thing. Oh my gosh. I can't believe you. Yeah. Why didn't any of them clap though? Like it is actually kind of weird. Like he did, he kind of nailed the point. Like it was like, whatever he said, he landed it. Maybe he didn't, maybe in the room it didn't land. That's what I'm saying. That's how little charisma little Jeb has. Oh my goodness. But it shows you though, and we'll show this, the Trump statement. Let's bring up the Trump statement. This is what Trump posted about DeSantis and about Fox because Trump right now

is just, after all that Fox did for him with this propaganda, Trump just has to try to bully them into submission. So here's Trump's- Well, he also knows now that he's seen the behind the scenes working, he knew it worked, but now he has such confirmation how scared they are of him. So it's just like, okay, all these posts scare the crap out of him. So if I just go hard on them, they'll change their behavior. So this is what he says. He goes, Fox News is promoting Ron DeSantis so hard and so much that there's not much time left for real news. Reminds me of 2016 when they were pushing Jeb! The new Fox Paul, which have always been purposely terrible for me, has Trump crushing DeSanctimonious, but they barely show it. Instead, they go with losers like Karl Rove, Paul Ryan, and now even

Jesper, who have been wrong about everything. Isn't there a big, beautiful network which wants to do well and make a fortune besides fake news? And he's able to do that now too. And he's saying that in response to the filings, because he knows if he just pushes Newsmax, then Fox changes their behavior. Plus, first of all, he's trying out the shorter version of the name, the abbreviated version of De Sanctimonious De Sanctus. I'm not sure if you caught that. That was thrown in there as well. But the day after Trump posted this, or a couple of days after, quickly following this

post, Fox aired the poll that Trump said he was mad that they weren't airing. They put this on TV, the Fox poll about the presidential candidates and the Fox poll. So you're right, Ben, he bullied Fox and they turned around and they said, okay, we'll play, we'll show the poll. And here's the poll of the Fox News poll of 2024 Republican nominee preference among Republican primary voters, and it is Donald Trump in the lead with 43% of the vote. Ron DeSantis right behind with 28% of the vote, a pretty large gap. And then way behind, you have Nikki Haley at 7%, Mike Pence at 7%, Greg Abbott at 2%, and Liz Cheney at 2%. That right there is the current landscape, according to this Fox News poll.

I've seen some other polls out there that have DeSantis in the lead, but a lot of them do have Trump in the lead, including this Fox poll. Now, here's the problem. It's that all these people are so subservient to Trump and they refuse to stand up to the guy. And maybe DeSantis is the only one who likes to kind of sometimes dabble in standing up to him when he's asked questions or stuff, but he really isn't. He's really just as afraid of them. And a lot of people were proposing, oh, maybe DeSantis isn't going to CPAC because of the Matt Schlapp allegations. Maybe Pence is just, he's so religious and pious and he doesn't want to be associated with that dirty match lap no they're both scared of trump supporters they're both terrified of trump supporters and they're terrified of the reaction they're going to get don't put this

like oh almighty holy sort of thing on them that oh they were too good for it absolutely not and one by one as you see these these Republicans asked the most simple question. I mean, if you are running for president of the United States, you should be able to say, I think I am better than this candidate because of X, Y, Z. Here is how a series of either candidates who have declared or potential presidential candidates for the Republican nominee for president have answered this question on Fox News. What are your differences between you and Donald Trump? What are the differences, for example, you may have with President Trump?

Probably not very many at all. I am so thankful that we have President Trump in office. Is there anything specifically off the top of your head that you would do differently or that you disagree with him on? What I will tell you is we have to look at the fact that mothers can't find baby form. Where would you be different on issues than President Trump? Well, I said early on that the only thing I had decided was that I wasn't going to let anybody else make the decision for it. Think about that. And if you're afraid of Trump and Trump's afraid of Kim Jong-un and Putin, how could these people be trusted with anything? I mean, it's a real test of their fortitude, right? And it's a moment.

How could you beat Trump? How could you beat Trump as a primary opponent if your pitch is, oh, I actually don't have any differences. And Donald, you're amazing. Love you. Love you. You're the best thing that's ever happened to this country. And Trump goes, you're the sanctimonious.

You're an idiot. You suck. And you, well, thank you for calling me that. That's a good nickname. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. I appreciate that. Good one.

That's a yeah. Just keep talking about me like that. These primaries are going to be them coming out there and they're all going to have some sort of version of like, we have to restore sanity. These liberals, these woke liberals are out of control. And then they're going to spend the remainder of the debates trying to out-extreme each other and out-Trump each other while also simultaneously sucking up to Donald Trump. It's going to be a total train wreck.

These debates, they're going to be complete and utter disasters. And you're going to see the sycophants. You're going to see this attempt to just be as radical as possible. You're going to see a lot of talk about woke and the liberals and the cities, all the code words, the globalists, all the code words that they use. They're going to be fighting to you supported the vaccine. No, I didn't. You supported the vaccine. You wanted to test for

COVID. No, you wanted to test for COVID. It's going to be such an embarrassment, but it's this weakness, this fundamental weakness in the Republican party, which allowed Donald Trump to take over in the first place. Brett, I don't know if you watched the HBO the zombies i i i i never thought that in a last of us it's good show the last of us yeah i i i never thought when i watched all these zombie movies in the past that if the zombies were to come or if the ufos were to come there would actually be a political party in america that rooted the zombies, that was pro-zombie, and that was pro-UFO, and actually cheered on the zombies or cheered on the UFOs. And if you basically were like,

hey, we got to stop the aliens, they'd be like, oh, that's such a woke, you're so woke, you woke, you woke. What a woke view, you want to stop those aliens? Those aren't really aliens. That's just like a miracle. All the aliens are just going to go away, just like a miracle. I mean, beyond absurd. Which brings me to, I think, the final point, which we talked about. One of the ways you have to combat the MAGA Republicans today is the same way Zelensky had to counter the propaganda from Russia. You have to be a step ahead of what they're going to do and call it out and say, here's what they're going to do, so let's just predict it. And that is what we need to do here. And the Washington Post is quoting someone who's now very influential, the former budget director in the Trump administration, Russell Vogt, who's really now

the person who's advising these MAGA fascist idiots, right? And one of the things that Vogt is trying to have them do now is, okay, we've been called out that we want to take away people's Social Security and Medicare. They got us on that one. And frankly, Biden did what I think you have to do now, right? You have to get us ahead of what they are ultimately going to do and call them out like Biden did in the State of the Union. And so here is what Biden is doing. Again, this is perfect strategy right here because it's been reported that what the GOP is trying to do in terms of it won't raise the debt ceiling unless its demands are met. And by the way,

to be clear, raising the debt ceiling is not about restructuring the budget. That's a whole other process that involves the budget, right? Raising the debt ceiling involves paying the bills of the past. Whose bills, might you ask? Pretty much Trump's bills because 25% of our national debt, 25% comes from Donald Trump and is in Trump's administration. Yes, the person who bragged about debt and who bankrupted everything he's touched his entire life brought on 25% of the debt that we now have in the United States. And you want to go back to when our deficit truly ballooned, when that took place? Ronald Reagan. It began with Reaganomics. And if you want to go back and say, who actually balanced budgets? Bill Clinton. Who's reduced the deficit?

President Biden by about $2 billion. Who's raised the deficit? Donald Trump by about $7 to $8 trillion. We now have to pay those bills, the bills that the MAGA Republicans caused us to incur. That's what we need to do. That's raising the debt ceiling. And so pull up Biden's post again. And that's trillion for Biden, cutting the deficit. He said billion. Yeah, sorry.

Biden cut it by two trillion. Trump raised the deficit by seven trillion, not billion. We're talking about trillion, trillion of dollars. And so here, this is now what the MAGA Republicans want to do. We won't agree to raise the debt ceiling unless you cut the following. $2 trillion in cuts to Medicaid, $600 billion in cuts to the Affordable Care Act, $400 billion in food stamps cut, have the Head Start program, just cut it in half, or we will cause America to default on its debt. And even though the economy is rebounding right now, and for everybody who

said there's going to be a recession or we're in it, and Biden, you introduced the Infrastructure Act, the Inflation Reduction Act. There's now going to be 20,000 infrastructure projects in the next few months, which means jobs, jobs, jobs. We, the MAGA Republicans, we're in Putin's pocket. We are going to destroy this country unless you cut programs that are necessary to millions of Americans. So here is Biden's post. He goes, says it right away. Republicans on the Hill are trying to hold the economy hostage. They just won't say for what, but we are starting to get a picture. It's not just your social security that may hang in the balance. It's your health care too. I'll have more to say this week. And I think President Biden gets it.

That's what that shows me. He understands that in order to address the Putin-style propaganda tactics of Republicans, because they get it from Putin, you got to be a step ahead of them. And you got to go out, you got to say this is what they're doing and call it out. And that's why I think that's such a profound move that he just did. Brett, Jordy. Yeah. I mean, he's been doing a generally pretty solid job of coming out there swinging these days and calling these Republicans out. And it's why we are where we're here right now. This is all because we won the social security argument we won the medicare argument and so they're trying to say oh you said social

security and medicare but did you say medicaid and if you remember a few weeks ago on this show we played some of those clips of matt gates on steve bannon show where he gave away the game on that show and he said you know what they're not talking about as much and in their slogans and all the things they're saying they're not saying Medicaid. And there's a lot we could do with Medicaid there. And if it were up to me, we would cut Medicaid right out. So he gave away the game there. And clearly Biden is either hearing from the internal discussions he's having with Republicans or hearing through the grapevine that this is what they're doing. And there's the reporting out there at the Washington Post, which says that this former Trump OMB director, if this is what he is proposing, they're trying to go around it. But it shows you

the whole time that instead of trying to be like, okay, how could we possibly, we care about the debt, supposedly, Republican, we supposedly care about the debt and the deficit. What could we possibly do here? Could we raise the cap in which people pay into social security so that the wealthy have to pay some more into social security than people who aren't as wealthy? No, no, no, we can't do that. Should we let those tax cuts expire for the millionaires and billionaires, which actually hurt the middle class? Should we do that to help the economy and get rid of some of our debt? No, we can't do that. Oh, I know what we'll do. We'll cut the programs made for the people who need them most. We'll take away your healthcare.

We'll cut Medicaid. We'll cut food stamps. We'll cut the Head Start program that gives nutrition and education and health to low-income children and families. That's who we're going to target because that's what the Republican Party does. That's all they're designed to do from top to bottom, from Fox News to the party infrastructure to the local officials in the Republican Party. It's all about how could we extract as much money and resources from the people on the bottom and give them to our cronies at the top. That's all they care about. Everything is through that lens.

They're going to weaponize everything, the government, the media, whatever they can to reach those goals. And so staying on top of it, staying one step ahead of it is always the right move. And it sucks because the one time that you don't do it, you get killed for it. But you got to keep trying to work as hard as you can to stay ahead of it. And this is exactly why. You know, when I think about the Jeb clip that you played, where I didn't recognize it, I didn't remember it. Let me tell you why. Because I was complicit.

And when I say that I was complicit, here is what I mean. I was on the sidelines then. I think I was someone who had a good legal career. I was doing depositions and in court and in trials every day. And I just kind of just covered my eyes and closed my ears to the reality of what was taking place. And then in 2020, I had an awakening. I had a moment where I just was like, enough. I can't be on the sidelines anymore. It took a global pandemic, but it's never late than never for anybody, right? And so we built this thing. We built this Midas Touch network with all of you. And when I think about the pro-democracy community, and Brett, to your point, the pro-democracy

community came together and ultimately was stronger and defeated the Fox fascist designs in the last election. And then when everybody said, including the large media networks pushing false narratives, there's going to be a red wave. There's going to be a red wave. And don't get me wrong, we lost the House. That's not a good thing. With a margin, though, that was way smaller, and we won the Senate, that is big. That is big. And that is a testament to the pro-democracy network, to the community, to the Midas mighty out there. And as I think about it, and perhaps this is what I thought, Brett, maybe in 2016 or 2017, someone else is going to come along and fix it. I'll let someone else do the hard

work. That person or persons are not coming. You watching this, you are the change. The person or the persons that you want to swoop in, guess what? Look in a mirror. It is you. It is the pro-democracy community. You hold the key. So when you go, oh, the Democrats need a message better, or strength, your ability to make the change and make the difference that you desire. And we're all in this together. That's what this pro-democracy community is all about. So as we approach difficult and uncertain times, always remember what you are capable of.

And that could be as simple as sharing a video once a day or posting something on social media or calling one person you know. And from there, it could build and build and build. I've heard such incredible stories of people who just started speaking on a social media platform, and before they knew it, they have 100,000 followers that they're speaking to. That's pretty incredible stuff, but you don't need 100,000 followers. Sometimes it's helpful just to speak to one person. To me, that's enough. Speak to five people, whatever you're comfortable with. But it's important that we all don't just remain on the sideline and think to ourselves, there's a superhero coming. There isn't. We together as a community will make the change

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Jordy, what's yours? It's so obvious that mine is the best one. Jordy, give your pitch. If I could say without you stepping over me, I would say it. Let's go. Let's hear it. It's the Midas Million Member Subscriber Marathon Month. That's the Midas Million Member Subscriber Marathon Month. That sounds like Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.

I'm going to counter with- It sounds the best. The Midas March to a million is going to be my pitch. That's so boring. I mean, that's just a variation of mine. The march to 1 million? Guys, leave the marketing up to me. Listen, we'll leave it to our great commenters out there. And I just want to say- Peter Piper picked a pickle pepper million.

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