The MeidasTouch Podcast - Obama Destroys Trump at Surprise Public Speech
Episode Date: June 21, 2025MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on former President Barack Obama giving an incredible speech at The Connecticut Forum where he ripped into Trump in public. Peak Pure & Natural: For 25% off you...r order, head to https://PeakNatural.com/meidas and use code: MEIDAS Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Former President Barack Obama brought the House down.
This was one of the biggest speeches he has given thus far during the Trump regime.
You heard him right there talking about objective facts.
This all took place at the Connecticut Forum.
Heather Cox Richardson was the moderator of this incredible event.
I want to play for you some key portions of this event.
You'll hear from former President Barack Obama.
I really want to hear more from him in times like this because when he delivers these speeches,
it is incredible.
And the way he knows how to precisely go after Donald Trump and meet
the moment is a skill that is really unique to former president Barack Obama.
So let me share this clip with you right here.
You're going to want to watch every minute of this.
Let's play it. when the system is captured by those who, let's say, have a weak attachment to democracy,
are not...
But I don't even think that's a controversial statement at this point.
No, I'm actually being serious now.
It was a controversial statement.
Now it is self-acknowledged.
I mean, if you follow regularly what is said by those who are in charge of the federal government right now, there is
a weak commitment to what we understood and not just my generation, at least since World
War II, our understanding of how a liberal democracy is supposed to work. And when I say liberal,
I don't mean left. I mean liberal in the sense of believing in rule of law and independent
judiciary and freedom of the press and freedom of assembly and protest and compromise and pluralism, all those institutional norms
and laws that were embodied in the Constitution imperfectly and then over time were expanded so that we had a basic
understanding of, like, I can't just be picked up on the street and hauled off to another
country. That's not something, that's not, that's not, that wasn't a partisan view.
That wasn't a Republican or a Democratic notion that that shouldn't happen.
That was an American value and norm. what I believe continues to be that there has to be responses and pushback from civil
society, from various institutions and individuals outside of government, but there also has to be people in government in both parties who say, well,
no, you can't do that. You can't do that. And what we're seeing right now is when you
do not have those constraints and guardrails, right, When you don't have people inside of government who say, no, you
know, this is how the law works and we should follow it.
Democracy is not self-executing. It requires people, judges and people in the Justice Department and people throughout the
government who take an oath to uphold the Constitution.
It requires them to take those, that oath seriously. And when that isn't happening, we start drifting into something that is not
consistent with American democracy. It is consistent with autocracies. It's consistent with Hungary
under Orbán. It's consistent with places that hold elections but do not otherwise observe
what we think of as a fair system in which everybody's voice matters and people
have a seat at the table and their checks and balances and nobody's above the law. But I think that we are dangerously close to normalizing behavior like that.
And we need people both outside government and inside of government saying, let's not go over that cliff, because it's hard to recover.
And part of the reason I think—it's interesting.
When I was first elected, we were in the middle of a huge global financial crisis. It had started on Wall Street, so understandably, other countries were annoyed about it.
And the Iraq War, obviously, was not popular around the world.
And so our reputation and our leadership globally had dipped pretty significantly.
And so I come in first year, and I'm doing a lot of travel and making a lot of speeches
and holding town halls like this in foreign countries.
And one of the raps that I got from the opposition, the Republican side, was, ah, he's on an apology
tour.
And basically what they were arguing was that I wasn't just going around bullying other
countries and telling them that we're better than you, which I thought was a bad strategy
to get them to cooperate to—that's human nature, I think.
But what they always missed, and what I would always say everywhere I went around the world,
was what makes America exceptional is not that it has
the biggest military, it's not that it has the largest economy. What really makes America
exceptional is that it's the only big country on earth and maybe the only real superpower in history that is
made up of people from every corner of the globe.
And they show up, they come here. And the glue that holds us together is this crazy experiment called democracy. And this
idea that we can somehow, despite all our differences, we don't look alike, we don't worship God in the same
way, we don't like the same foods. And yet, when this experiment works, it gives the world a little bit of hope. Because it says it is possible for human beings who are
not bound by tribe or race or blood, but are instead bound by an idea that they can somehow
work together and arrive at a common good. That's what made America exceptional.
And so I think we have to recover pride in that. That's what makes us special. That and our capacity through
this constitutional process and representative government and an adherence to certain ideas
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I want to play for you this other incredible portion of this event at the Connecticut Forum.
Let's play it. One of the most important challenges I think our democracy faces is how do we regain
some common sense of truth, not absolute truth, but rough, basic truth. In 2020, one person won the election and it wasn't the guy complaining about it.
And that's just a fact. That wasn't just like, you know, my inauguration had more people. And that's demonstrable.
I say that, by the way, not because I don't care.
But facts are important.
Because if you can't, and I think one of the most pernicious things that has happened is
we have a situation now where we're not just arguing policy or values or opinions, but basic facts are being contested.
And that is a problem.
Because then the marketplace of ideas
of the democracy don't work.
I've said this before, but I always repeat it.
You and I can have an opinion about this little side table.
You might not like the design, you might not like the color or how
it's finished, but we can have that discussion. If I say to you, this is a lawnmower, you'll You'll think I'm crazy.
And if I really believe it, I'll think you're crazy.
And we're now in a situation in which we are having these just basic factual arguments.
And that further undermines trust. And those in power, those with money,
exploit that space in which nobody knows what's true.
Vladimir Putin and the KGB had a saying that was then adopted proudly by Steve Bannon, If you want propaganda to be effective, you don't have to convince people that what you are saying is true.
You just have to flood the zone with so much poop.
They use a different word, but you have to flood the zone with so much untruth constantly
that at some point people don't believe anything.
So it doesn't matter if a candidate running for office just is constantly, just hypothetically, saying
untrue things.
Or if an elected president claims that he won when he lost and that the system was rigged,
but then when he wins, then it isn't rigged. Because he won.
It doesn't matter if everybody believes it. It just matters if everybody starts kind of
throwing up their hands and saying, well, I guess it doesn't matter. And that's what's happened.
That's what's happened in one of our major political parties.
You have a whole bunch of people who know that's not true, but we will pretend like
it is.
And that is dangerous.
And finally, here's the last clip I want to share with you from this truly incredible
event where former President Barack Obama did not hold back. Here, play this clip. It's a story about America that includes everybody.
It's a good story. It's a story about people who,
it's a story about people who aren't pretentious
and don't believe that anybody is worse than them or better than them. That we're all
endowed with a core dignity and are deserving of rights and respect,
and have to assume responsibility for ourselves,
individually, and our collective lives.
And we all play a part.
And that historically has not been a, I'm repeating myself here, it hasn't been a Republican
or a Democratic idea.
That is an American idea that everybody could tap into.
And if that ends up being our starting point for a common identity, if our starting point
is these homespun values of we don't have aristocracies here, we don't have monarchies. We have rule of law. All people are equal in the eyes of the
law. That we all have a part to play in democracy, that we all have to take individual responsibility
for our lives, but we also have to, as Lincoln said, do some things together because we can do it better together than we can do it apart.
If that's our starting point, then I think we'll be okay. But think right now what we're seeing is a politics that is
reasserting a bad story of America, which is that even if there are technically
ranks, we like the idea of caste and we like the idea of hierarchy.
And some people, this is our country, the real Americans, and these other folks are the phony and the fake Americans.
Or not even American. And that story also has a deep history in this country that says, okay, the first
Americans aren't Americans. And slaves are not Americans. And women are sort of Americans as long as they're doing what their husbands say.
And people of different sexual orientations, they're not—we don't even want to hear about them.
That story has been part of America as well. And, you know, people sometimes ask me what is my favorite, what is the favorite of the
speeches I've given? And probably my favorite, and it will be a portion of it's on the face of
the Presidential Center that will be opening next year in Chicago, is the speech I gave in Selma for the 50th anniversary.
And the reason I love that speech is because,
to me, that contest on the Edmund Pettus Bridge
is as important a battle as Concord and Lexington
and Appomattox because you have on one side, you have on one side John Lewis in a backpack and an apple and a toothbrush and maids and college students have flown down
and rabbis and young priests and they are carrying with them across that bridge this
story, this better story that we're all equal, we all have a place, nobody's worse, nobody's better, and
we can all join together. And on the other side, you've got folks on horseback with billy
clubs and guns and dogs, and they're carrying a different story, which is, no, ignore what we say in the Declaration
of Independence. We have caste. And some people are better and more deserving than others, and have more power and more wealth.
And so I think we are,
that question right now is being called.
And you asked about universities,
law firms, businesses.
One of my bigger concerns is when I see institutions cower before this
bad story because they're worried that it will affect their bottom lines in some fashion.
And the question I've asked, because there have been
partners in law firms who have called me and asked me about this, there have been university
presidents who I've had conversations with about this, businesses who have asked me how
they think they should handle this. And what I've said to them is, well, what do you believe?
Like, that's your starting point. What do you care about? What's your mission?
If you believe, if you are a university, what is your core mission? And if, as I think your core mission should be,
it's to teach, to transmit knowledge
and broaden horizons for young minds
and transmit information that allows them
not just to get a job, but also to live meaningful lives
and be good citizens. If that's your mission,
then it really doesn't matter what the threats are coming up from the other. You push back
against somebody who says you can't carry out that mission. If you're running a business, it's a partnership, you're billing, you want
clients, but you're also all supposed to be officers of the court.
You went into the law presumably not just because you couldn't think of anything else to do, or your dad
or your mom thought it was a good idea, presumably you went into the law because you believe
in the law. So if you are getting pressure from government saying ignore or fudge or compromise that commitment, you have to push
back. Now, one thing that I've noticed, and I've said this before in a few other venues. Heather, you and I, we both grew up after World War
II and America's colossus around the world and we're exporting all these ideas and our
economy is growing. And terrible things have happened during our lifetimes.
Vietnam and assassinations and killing fields and Rwanda.
So I don't wanna in any way minimize those things.
But what's been fascinating about this period
in our history and it's anomalous
is that things got sort of steadily better.
The world became hugely wealthier and healthier
and better educated and infant mortality dropped
and women and girls suddenly had access to education and
human rights became an idea that people violated but were guilty about. Listen to sometimes like
Sometimes, like, just Nixon, the Nixon tapes, just talking about bombing Cambodia. Crazy how indifferent they were in ways that were taken for granted then, and now, whatever
differences I have with the Bush administration, they wouldn't have conversations like that.
And that happened just in 20 years.
So I think a lot of us started to take it for granted.
And part of what happened was,
if you were relatively privileged to have been grown up
in the United States of America during this period,
you could be as progressive and socially conscious
as you wanted, and you did not have to pay a price.
You could still make a lot of money,
you could still hang out in Aspen and Milan,
and travel, and have a house in the Hamptons,
and still be, and still think of yourself as a progressive.
still be and still think of yourself as a progressive. And now things are a little different. Your commitments are being tested. Not the way Nelson Mandela's commitments were tested,
where you go to jail for 27 years. You might lose some of your donors if you're a university. And if you're a law
firm, your billings might drop a little bit, which means you cannot remodel that kitchen
in your house in the Hamptons this summer. And if you're a business and this has happened because I've been
getting calls about it, yes you may be threatened by an administration that
says we won't approve a merger or we will launch an investigation of you, and we will make you uncomfortable. Part of what all this tariff
stuff is about, by the way, because it's such—it is such poorly thought out economics. So you kind of wonder, well, why would you do something that's just not well
thought out? I mean, you can apply tariffs. There's a place for tariffs to help open up
markets and leverage. The United States sometimes gets taken advantage of because we've been the biggest market. China in particular, as
it came up, started taking advantage of the rules. And my administration applied tariffs
as well, occasionally, to counteract these bad practices. But that's not What's going on now is that tariffs means everybody has to come to you for favor.
You apply blanket tariffs around the world, now suddenly Vietnam's got to negotiate tariffs and, oh, would it be helpful in terms of lowering tariffs
if maybe we approved a golf course for a certain business?
All right.
Let's discuss that.
So what's happening is that we now have a situation in which all of us are going to
be tested in some way, and we are going to have to then decide what our commitments are.
And it will be uncomfortable for a time. But that's how you know it's a commitment.
Because you do it when it's hard.
Not just when it's easy, not just when it's trendy, not just when it's cool, you know?
And sometimes I feel as if
during my presidency, I think a lot of people
felt comfortable in their
righteousness because they didn't have to test it. Now you have to test it a little bit more.
You know, I think it was important that I gave you all of those clips. He went on and he spoke
slightly longer than the clips that I just shared with you.
He spoke about artificial intelligence.
He spoke about his background and his history.
He touched on some other topics, but to me that was a good summary of everything that
took place.
Make sure you hit subscribe.
Leave a comment below about what you thought about what I just shared with you.
But I thought that was a very inspiring moment that he just did this week.
Let me know what you think.
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