The MeidasTouch Podcast - PANICKED Trump LOSES HIS MIND as he Arrives at Fraud Trial
Episode Date: December 7, 2023MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump decided to show up for day 41 of the New York fraud trial after his son Eric who purportedly led the organization during the relevant time period ...decided to skip his direct testimony. Go to https://Hellotushy.com/meidas and use promo code MEIDAS for 15% off all bidets! Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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There's not a judge in the country that wouldn't have given us a total victory,
but there's not a judge in the country that would have even taken this case.
This is a witch hunt, and it's a very corrupt trial.
Are you aware of the fact that this case...
We won this case at the Appellate Division.
Most of it. We cover about 90% of the case. We won this case at the Appellate Division. Most of it. We cover about 90% of the case.
We won this case at the Appellate Division.
And this judge refuses to acknowledge the Appellate Division.
He said very specifically, and we're going forward.
Because there's something wrong here.
We won this case.
Remember this.
And this judge refuses to acknowledge the appellate position.
As he said very specifically, we're going forward.
Because there's something wrong here.
Day 41 of the New York Attorney General Civil Fraud Trial.
Donald Trump arriving right there.
I'm Ben Micellis from the Midas Touch Network.
A panicky, mumbly, bumbly Donald Trump shows up as the trial is reaching its conclusion.
Eric Trump was supposed to testify yesterday, and that testimony would potentially have
gone into today.
But Eric decided that he wasn't going to testify during direct examinations, though the key
individual who was supposed to be the head
of the organization during the relevant time period is not testifying during direct examination.
That seems to make a lot of sense in terms of what people who believe they're not liable
would do.
Let's not have the key witness testify on direct examination.
I'm being sarcastic, of course.
Donald Trump posted
on his social media platform, I told my wonderful son Eric not to testify tomorrow at the rigged
trial brought about by Attorney General Letitia James' campaign promise that without knowing
anything about me, quote, I will get Trump. She ran for AG, then governor of New York, and lost.
Eric has already testified perfectly,
unlike their star witness who admitted that he lied.
So Eric Trump testified under cross-examination and he did a horrible job.
Why wouldn't you have your own witness
testify on direct examination
where your lawyers can ask the questions
to help Eric explain to the judge.
If you believe you're not liable, you go through the books, you go through your due diligence,
you go through the numbers. You don't just have a cross-examination only, but look, this is an
organization that, as the complaint alleged, engaged in systemic fraud over and over again.
I want to show you this other clip right here as
Donald Trump arrived today. And here Donald Trump just repeatedly says, as he did in that first clip
that I showed you, get it through your heads, get it through your heads. Here's what you need to
know. We won. We won everything. We won in the appellate division. We won everything. We won 90%
in the appellate division. We're the winners. And the
judge is going along and having this whole trial, even though we won in the appellate division.
Fact check, totally and utterly false. That is not what happened. Let me show you Donald Trump
whining more, coping more. Let me show you this, then let's talk about it. Play this clip.
We won this case. Remember this. Just put's talk about it. Play this clip. division at your high court, the judge has to be bound by what their decision is.
But we won at the appellate division.
Part of that victory was Ivanka, of course, not having to put herself through this.
And they ruled that.
But the bigger part of it was that about 90%, because it's statute of limitations, about 90% of the case disappears.
So remember this,
we won the case at the appellate division, the high court, and this judge refuses to acknowledge that victory or that demand. Now that's very serious.
Again, that was from Donald Trump just moments ago as he arrived on day 41 of the New York Attorney General
civil fraud case, you did not win in the New York Appellate Division.
By the way, even if I accept, Argoendo, your own lies right there, you idiot just admitted
that you did not win everything in the Court of Appeals in the Appellate Division.
You're lying about everything that you said there, but you said we won 90% in the Appellate
Division due to statute of limitations.
So even if I accept your argument, wouldn't that mean that 10% still goes to trial?
So you didn't win everything in the Appellate Division, but that's not what the Appellate
Division said.
As you actually point out, what the Appellate division did say is that the statute of
limitations as it relates to Ivanka removed Ivanka from the case because Ivanka said that
she was not associated with the Trump organization during the relevant period.
And because she said she had no formal association with the Trump organization
and she threw her family members under the bus, that is why Ivanka is no longer in the case from
the appellate division. But the appellate division looked back and said, here's the
statute of limitations. And if there was a continuous fraud, if past financial statements
were being used during the relevant statute of limitations period, which extends back six years, then that falls within the statute of limitation.
An ongoing fraud.
What Trump's trying to argue is if we committed fraud in our initial initiating documents back in 2011, the 1990s, If we committed fraud in the initiating documents,
that's when the statute of limitations runs. That's absurd. Judge Ngoran said that's absurd.
The New York Attorney General says that's absurd. The way it works is if you committed
fraud back in the 1990s or before the statute of limitations, and then you used it during the period within the statute of limitations,
then the statute of limitations has not run on those claims. It is within the statute of
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And so that's what this case is about as well, that there's fraudulent conduct taking place
within the statute of limitation, both new fraudulent conduct, as well as old fraudulent
conduct, where those fraudulent documents are being used
during the statute of limitations time period. I want to show you this final clip of Donald Trump
as he's whining as he's entering court today. And this is where he says, and the judge made
a valuation that's 50 to 100 times less with the valuation of Mar-a-Lago. We hear this over and
over and over again, whining about it. Here, play this clip. So we're going in now. We have an expert witness, one of the
great experts in the country. And I hope you'll all be able to listen to him.
Why don't it just be another day? If you look at the case, we did nothing wrong. There were no
victims. The bank loves us. The bank testified. They love us. We did absolutely nothing wrong. We never even defaulted. We never had a default letter sent to us. The bank said we were a perfect custody. The bank didn't even know why they were here. and outside, all over the streets, they're being murdered. This violent crime and this Attorney General,
who's crazy. She's a lunatic.
The Attorney General
sits here because she
knows that she has a judge and no matter
all the evidence, that judge
is going to rule
in her favor. He ruled against
me before the case even started.
The case hadn't started.
He knew nothing and he ruled against me. The case hadn't started. He knew nothing.
And he ruled against me.
The other thing is this.
He valued Mar-a-Lago and Palm Beach, Florida,
because that was good for her case,
at a value of $18 million, when in fact it's worth anywhere from 50 to 100 times that amount.
Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
But just remember what I said at the beginning.
We wanted the appellate division,
and this judge refuses to honor that victory
or that decision or that demand.
Mr. Judge, why did you say you would be back here?
Why did you say you would be back here?
You're a D1.
And as I've said before, the judge isn't making valuations.
The judge isn't an appraiser.
The judge isn't a financial expert.
The judge is looking at what the undisputed facts are.
He's looking at what the experts are saying.
He's looking at what the undisputed facts are.
What do your own documents say? Your own documents say, Donald Trump, that the
Mar-a-Lago property is not a residential property. You classified it as a commercial property. You
intentionally devalued the property, number one, to pay less property taxes, and number two, to
classify it as a club so you could take in memberships so other people could pay for the property. Club memberships. So by having this as a club, not-a-Lago would be valued at $250 to $300 million if it was a residential property in that area.
But that means you'd have to pay property taxes on it.
It's definitely not valued at $1 billion or $1.5 billion.
It's not the most expensive property in the history of the United States of America.
So that's false.
But you wanted to say it's $250, $300 million. So then the question is, are you paying property taxes at that valuation?
The answer is no. Is it a residential property to get that valuation? No. It's a commercial
property encumbered by historical deeds so you could pay less taxes, which you did. And your own paperwork, your own signatures,
your own documents is what states that that property is valued at under $27 million. And
that's where it is. Those are just the facts. So as we head to the conclusion of this trial,
Eric Trump not testifying for direct examination. Donald Trump is set to testify December 11th. We'll see if that's moved
up at all based on the pace of this. The witness today, the expert witness who's testifying today
is someone by the name of Eli Bartov, who testified in another similar New York Attorney General 631-12
case, which is the same kind of statute being used here. You know how Donald Trump says, this case has never been brought before.
It has been brought before many times before.
It was brought against Exxon back in 2019, for example.
And this expert, Eli Bartov, actually testified for the New York Attorney General's office
back in 2019, who's testifying today.
He did a horrible job, though, back in 2019 and became kind of a persona
non grata in that world of kind of expert testimony, at least from the perspective of
the New York Attorney General, now testifying for Donald Trump. He kept on calling Exxon Enron
in the 2019 testimony that he gave. He didn't even know who the entity was that was on trial.
So we will keep you posted of what's going on,
but that's where we're at today.
I'm Ben Myselis.
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