The MeidasTouch Podcast - "Please Excuse My Brevity" with Akim Aliu

Episode Date: March 9, 2021

Professional hockey player Akim Aliu tells his deeply personal immigrant story and discusses how he confronted and spoke out against racism in the world of professional hockey, using his voice to co-f...ound the Hockey Diversity Alliance and make substantial change regarding racial justice and racial equity in the NHL. The MeidasTouch brothers also chat about Oprah's special with Meghan Markle and Prince Harry and backlash Jordy received regarding a tweet he made about the British Royal Family, the historic passage of the COVID relief bill, GQP members fleeing political office, a bizarre Lindsey Graham interview, read off the latest hate mail and more! This is an episode you won't want to miss. Thank you for making the MeidasTouch Podcast one of the top podcasts in all of North America! Please tell a friend, share this episode on social media, and rate us 5-stars in the Apple Podcasts app! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/meidastouch/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/meidastouch/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:11 If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Welcome to the Midas Touch podcast. Ben Mycelis here, joined by my younger brothers, Brett and Jordy. How are you guys doing today? Doing great. How's it going? It's going good. I'm excited. I have my client and long-term friend, Akeem Aliyu, on the show today. Akeem's going to talk about his fight to eradicate racism in the hockey. For those who haven't heard Akeem Aliyu's compelling story, how he went and exposed hazing when he was in his teens. And then he was a victim of racism while he pursued a career in the NHL. Akeem was one of the top prospects in hockey. He was banished from the league. Every time he played in the league, he kicked ass. But Akeem never fully
Starting point is 00:02:22 got the shot that he deserved because of his fight against racism. Last year, Akeem sent out a tweet heard round the hockey world where he exposed some of his coaches from the past who engaged in racism and opened up this broader conversation in the sport. So I'm super excited to have Akeem Aliou on. Ben, would it be fair to say that a team is the Colin Kaepernick of the hockey world? You know, as a person who knows the individuals, I hate to give all encompassing labels of this is the, they're all unique in their own ways. I like to say a key model. You is the Akeem Ali. I love that in the, in the hockey world. And speaking on, you know, the racism that Akeem experienced, there are a lot of people talking about what happened last night,
Starting point is 00:03:14 the Oprah interview with Meghan and Harry. And I know Jordy is getting just obliterated on Twitter because Jordy thought it was wise to comment that he didn't care about the royal family and Geordie is getting skewered. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Well, my tweet was, it was something along the lines of. It's a one sentence tweet, so it's not something along the lines of three words. You can actually read the tweet if you want. We have an hour. Yeah. So I said this, I'm just going to say it. We're giving way too much airtime to the royal family.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Wow. And consciousness. You got to clear those tweets with the brothers. Holy shit. Holy shit, Jordy. Oh my God. I can't believe you went there. Are you trying to get Midas touch canceled?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah, Jordy's trying to get Midas destroyed. Here's the thing. I'm uncancellable. I'm uncancellable at this point. You two, on the other hand, I don't know. I think you guys could still get canceled. There's nothing I could say that won't get us canceled. That's the thing i'm uncancellable i'm uncancellable at this point you two on the other hand i don't know i think you guys could still get canceled there's nothing i could say that's the queen thought that's the queen thought too until last night but go on but that someone saying someone who says they're uncancellable is the most cancelable person here's exactly what i meant by it and after i get through this i think everyone will understand
Starting point is 00:04:22 exactly where i'm coming from the The Meghan Markle story is important. The deep rooted racism that comes from the royal family, unfortunately, shouldn't come as a shock to anybody. It doesn't make it right by any means, but it shouldn't come as a shock that a family obsessed with bloodlines is racist. The whole entire concept of the royal family is that their blood line is superior to everybody else in the country. It's inherently a racist institution in the class. It just literally I mean, I saw what it's like. Wait a minute. We're focused on this
Starting point is 00:04:58 interview versus the fact that this country colonized, you know, a ton of countries like how about that wasn't proof of the racism, but go ahead, Jordy. So look, that can't lessen though, how awful Megan was treated and how it led to her having these suicidal thoughts. That's the conversation guys that needs to be happening. What's happening though, in the media is that they're using megan and her suffering as a launch pad to promote their stations and their networks they're running royal specials creating royal newsletters things that don't even have to do with the issue at hand racism and mental health cnn i'm looking directly at you here don't use someone else's pain to promote yourself and
Starting point is 00:05:44 ultimately detract from the conversation of race and mental health. Megan has an important story. Don't whitewash her pain for your viewership and for your ratings. Deep, Jordy. You could tell the comments to Jordy's tweet, which were, by the way, 98% very positive. But the 2% of tweets really hurt Jordy because we're a little sensitive sometimes. It's just the thing though. I think people understand though that Megan's being used. Totally. And that's the disgusting part. And that's what led to my tweet. I want to say two things. First, don't get so upset about tweets, Jordy, because I literally saw somebody today make a joke that if anybody
Starting point is 00:06:27 puts sugar or cream in their coffee, perhaps you don't like coffee. And the comments to that, I don't even know who wrote that tweet, but I caught it this morning when I was in bed looking through my Twitter feed. The comments were like, he said, like he defended Nazis or something like the comments were, oh, so I bet you don't season your chicken then, asshole. Like people got really freaking offended about this guy's joke about putting sugar and cream in coffee. So I wouldn't put that much stock into some of these comments and I wouldn't get too upset. But I'm going to disagree with you on one end of it, that it's annoying that everybody's talking about the royal family, because to me, what it shows is that America is back. We're talking about the royals. We're not trying to
Starting point is 00:07:10 wonder if the president is going to kill us every night. On the weekends, we're all gathering around the table watching Oprah. I couldn't even think of doing that a year ago, that America would be rallying around the royal family, talking about Mr. Potato Head, talking about all this dumb stuff, just shows you a Democrat is in the White House. It's kind of a good thing in a weird, sick way. It is true, though, that the media under pre-Trump presidencies, because they didn't have a crazy, psychotic human being with his finger on the nuclear trigger, did focus on other stories became major controversies. I feel like we're back in the 90s or something here.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Exactly. I mean, must see TV about the royal family over the pond, them airing their dirty laundry out as we in America deal with the America rescue plan as we're actually passing bills that help the American people. I can live with that this weekend. And that's what we saw. In fact, this weekend, we saw the American Rescue Plan pass in the Senate. That's me clapping here. I like it. Yeah. Round of applause. Senate Democrats passed the sweeping one point nine trillion dollar American rescue plan by a vote of 50 to 49. I saw one person tweet. This is asymmetrical partisanship where the Democrats had supported the Republican efforts on the relief plans.
Starting point is 00:08:40 But the Republicans do not support the Democrats on their relief plans. I think using a complicated term like asymmetrical partisanship makes this way more complex than it is. The Republicans are a bunch of stupid, dumb asses, right? They're just a bunch of stupid, dumb asses who hate this country and selfishly just want to say no, no, no to everything and spew their bizarre bullshit conspiracy theories so that they can uphold white supremacy. Let's not give this more complicated labels. You know, look, I'm all for asymmetrical. I'm, you know, use big words. We can have debates like we're college students, but the Republicans is just a bullshit fucking political party and they don't even
Starting point is 00:09:21 deserve to have big words. And they voted for a lot of the same stuff that was in this bill and all the previous bills. And it shows really, this is why it stresses me out and frustrates me when the media says, why isn't Joe Biden being bipartisan on a bill that's supported by more than 60% of Republicans, by nearly 80% of the American people. And they're asking Democrats why Democrats aren't being bipartisan here when Democrats voted for every other relief bill, almost every single one of them. Each time there was a relief bill passed. And here is what the Republican Party voted against. They voted against fourteen hundred dollar relief checks to all Americans who qualify. That's most Americans. A weekly three hundred
Starting point is 00:10:01 dollar boost to jobless benefits through September, an expansion of the child tax credits for a year, new funding into COVID-19 vaccine distribution and testing, rental assistance for struggling households and K through 12 schools for reopening costs, $14 billion in payroll support for U.S. airlines. It could cut child poverty in half. And that's the Midas Touch Show. Thanks so much for tuning in. It's a long list of stuff. It could cut child poverty in half. And that's the Midas Touch Show. Thanks so much for tuning in. It's a long list of stuff. It's a long list. And then you have, you know, senators, Republican senators like Murkowski and Senator Portman, you know, they wanted to add amendments. So the Democrats, in an effort to be bipartisan, you know, allowed their amendments to come in. We compromise certain areas of the
Starting point is 00:10:46 bill that we wanted to pass. And what do these people do after adding the amendments? They then vote against the amendments that the Republicans themselves added. The Republicans vote against their own amendment. So you just can't deal logically. And then it's bad faith. It's bad. Right. And then their argument is one point nine trillion dollars. We can't afford that. Well, guess what? Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut broke it down like this. And what's, I guess, to me, ironic about this claim that it's too expensive, that it's going to cost our kids and grandkids too much money, is that Republicans passed a tax bill that was almost to the dollar the exact same amount as this relief bill is. They passed a $1.9 trillion tax bill where the majority of the benefits went to the richest Americans who needed no more help.
Starting point is 00:11:51 There was no crisis in 2017 amongst American millionaires and billionaires. And that's a great clip. Biden proposed this $1.9 trillion plan. A $1.9 trillion plan was passed. Republicans have an issue with it, despite the fact that they passed $1.9 trillion worth in tax cuts. But for some reason, it's okay when you're spending $1.9 trillion worth in tax cuts. But for some reason, it's okay when you're spending $1.9 trillion to make a tax burden less on their richest friends. On the millionaires and billionaires.
Starting point is 00:12:13 But suddenly when you got to give checks and increase vaccine distribution and give money to schools to reopen, suddenly that's too much money. The GOP, they don't care about Americans. They care about their donors at the end of the day. That's it. That's their whole driving force and motivation behind all of this nonsense. Millionaires and billionaires. I hate to break it to most Americans, the vast majority, 90 plus percent of Americans. You're not a millionaire. And if you're not in the 1% of the 1%, you're not a billionaire. So why you would want to support a political party in the Republicans whose only thing they've ever delivered is for the 1%. When you're not that you need to really look yourself in the mirror, look at the bill that the Democrats just passed and say, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:13:06 All of those things actually helped me. But I'm supporting the 2017 tax cut. I mean, you are supporting as a Republican the belief in trickle down economics, which never works. Your whole view is that we should give the billionaires a ton of money and hope we get their sloppy twelfths, not even their sloppy seconds or thirds. Like you generally believe, let's give the billionaires money and hope that trickles down to me. Imagine if you are the person in Kentucky or you are living in Idaho and you're a struggling farmer and you're supporting a bill to give
Starting point is 00:13:43 billionaires billions more dollars, hoping it trickles down to me and my family. It'll trickle, trickle down. It's going to trickle. It trickles to me after they buy more homes and more yachts and more private jets. Just maybe I'll get a little bit of that trickle down to me. That's what you believe if you're a Republican other than Dr. Seuss lies about Dr. Seuss. This is why they bring up bullshit things like Dr. Seuss that nobody in this country really cares about. But they make up the fake idea that Dr. Seuss was canceled, which isn't even a thing, a private. You made the greatest point, though, and you got to reiterate your Dr.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Seuss theory, Brett, because I think it's brilliant. My concept is if you're going to rail against the decisions of Dr. Seuss Enterprises for removing the specific books that they removed, if it makes you that upset, I want you to argue that those books, not Cat in the Hat, not Green Eggs and Ham, not whatever other, oh, the places you'll go. Don't bring up all these other Dr. Seuss books. I want you to argue that the content, the racist, the extremely racist content in the Dr. Seuss books that were removed from being published. I want you to defend that. Put up those cartoons on Fox News. Put up those cartoons on Newsmax and say, this is what I want my kids to be reading. This is what I want to defend. Stand by your principles. Like when Congressman Kevin McCarthy is reading Cat in the Hat,
Starting point is 00:15:11 there's no issue with Cat in the Hat. Why are you reading that book? Hold the photos up that portray the Asian community heinously and despicably. Hold those photos up that Dr. Seuss painted and say, yeah, read that one and put that one out there, McCarthy. But you don't even do that. This is why Republicans love cultural issues, though, because they're not working in the interests of the American people. They were up all night to try to block COVID relief from getting to the American people. The Democrats were up all night to try to get COVID relief to the American people. And the reason they bring up Cat in the Hat, the reason they bring up Mr. Potato Head, the reason they bring up the Muppets, it's to distract from the
Starting point is 00:15:54 fact that not only are they not helping the American people, but they're actually actively trying to harm the American people. So they detract their base by saying Democrats are trying to take away Dr. Seuss from your kids. And they try to scare their base and it works. It's why they do it, even though it's so ridiculous. But you just need to kind of call it out forcefully and do what Joe Biden does, which is just put your head down, do the work and then let people know that you're fighting for them and what you've accomplished for them. Because when people get those fourteen hundred dollar checks, I bet the person who's whining about Dr. Seuss, I bet they deposit that check when it comes in the mail.
Starting point is 00:16:33 What do you guys think about Senator Manchin, though? We were incredibly appropriately harsh on Senator Manchin for his defense of the filibuster. As we pointed out, he's 73 years old, great looking, serve until the great looking. He's a very handsome 73. Oh, man. I mean, I mean, at the time of 70, have you ever seen a 73 year old look like that? I need to see his birth certificate to actually validate that he's 73 and not doing one of those things where it's like, you know, he's actually in his mid-60s, but using the clout of the extra age. But now he's out there saying that he thinks that the filibuster should be reformed or be made more difficult. I'm going to continue to support the filibuster. I think it
Starting point is 00:17:16 defines who we are as a Senate. I'll make it harder to get rid of it, but it should be painful if you want to use it. Do you just think that he's trying to have it both ways? No, I think it's interesting. I think what he's saying is actually, I think it's actually a reasonable take. It's still frustrating as hell, but I think he's telegraphed a way that Democrats could actually make substantial change
Starting point is 00:17:39 to the filibuster. And what we heard is that Joe Manchin is saying that, okay, I'm not going to get rid of the filibuster. I have no intention ever of getting rid of the filibuster. I love the filibuster. I love the filibuster. I love my filibuster more than I love voting rights. I love my filibuster more than I love health care and more than I love immigration reform and everything. But what he said is, I'm not getting rid of the filibuster. But what I am open to, and this is important, is that if you're going to invoke the filibuster, you actually have to filibuster. It used to be the case where if you filibustered, I mean, when we learned it growing up in civics classes, what you had to do is you actually had to stand there for hours on end
Starting point is 00:18:19 and filibuster. You had to speak constantly. You had to actually be talking, reading random passages of whatever. You had to actually put in work and it was painful. It was a- You had to read it for hours on end. It's one of the things our history teacher, Mr. Buckman taught us. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:36 But now the way it's set up is you could say, I'm doing a filibuster and you could immediately bring everything to a halt without any of the actual work of the filibuster, as long as there aren't 60 votes to overcome the filibuster. And you could immediately bring everything to a halt without any of the actual work of the filibuster, as long as there aren't 60 votes to overcome the filibuster. So it's been totally bastardized into the way that it is now. I actually think that what Joe Manchin's saying- Bastardized. Yes, Ben. Sometimes I break out the big words too. Asymmetrical, bastardized, you know, I'm bringing it back. Bastardized. You don't even know if that's the real way to use it.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Google it, man. Don't worry. The point being, though, this opens up an opportunity for Democrats to reform the filibuster. And now we have to figure out if this is a viable way. How many votes will we need to actually reform the filibuster? Would we need 60? Are we still going to have to get 10 Republicans on board to reform the filibuster in that way? Because if we do, I don't think it's going to happen. But I think that is at least Joe Manchin showing his cards a little bit and showing how we could make some good change going forward. Do you believe, Jordy, that what Joe Manchin is relying on here is that Republicans can't read and therefore they won't be able to read the bills because they're incapable of actually reading and doing work. I think that's certainly part of it.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I think that's certainly part of it. I want to go back to something real quick. You guys, you know, they call me Hall of Fame Jordy. Three out of 10 ideas. We were talking about Dr. Seuss just a little bit ago. Brett, Ben, video idea. Ready? Are you doing this live?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Okay. Okay. Doing this live. All right. Three out of 10. So this live. All right. Three out of 10. So the video is just that. Republicans defending Dr. Seuss. Now, this would have to be done with extreme tact. And then juxtaposing it against the actual awful imagery that Dr. Seuss, Inc. is removing. You have whomever, the Tucker Carlson's, the real politicians actually out
Starting point is 00:20:25 there defending, you know, oh, green eggs and ham, blah, blah, blah, but talked about Dr. Seuss and how it's all cancel culture. But then we show really the books and the imagery that are being canceled and removed from rotation. I do like the idea. However, I think any sort of videos, I think for the most part should be showing the pointless nature. I think any sort of videos, I think for the most part, should be showing the pointless nature. I think should be showing the pointless nature. You have like a taser back there, Brett? I got my dog who's shaking. The pointless nature of the Dr. Seuss fight amidst Democrats actually fighting for policy changes and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Because you could run this culture war forever and Tucker Carlson is going to be an asshole and Ben Shapiro is going to be an asshole. They're going to talk about this all day long and run it into the ground. But I think what we need to highlight is that while all this dumb shit is going on, what Republicans are doing, while they're whining about Cat in the Hat, while they're whining about Mr. Potato Head, Democrats are getting stuff done for the American people and that they actually are serious politicians working for people. So I think that's how I would shift that because I think folks, that is how a Midas touch video is made. We will show you the video when it's, we will show you that Brett's got like a taser going off in the background. I'm watching, I'm watching my dog because my wife is working in the other room and when it shakes, it sounds like you have like a taser going off. Leave Mochi alone. So we would be remiss, though, if we also did not point out, though, that it does seem that
Starting point is 00:21:52 many Republican senators have simply just had enough. They see the crazy direction that this party is going in and they'd like to have none of it for their legacy, even though they are responsible for creating it. So, for example, on Monday morning, Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri announced that he will be retiring in 2022. Bye bye, Roy. Roy Blunt out there saying goodbye and smoking the Roy Blunt. This makes him the fifth GOP senator that has announced their upcoming retirements. Other senators smoking the Roy Blunt is Richard Shelby, Republican from Alabama, smoking the big Roy Blunt. Ron Portman from Ohio. He's smoking a little a little spliffy Roy Blunt. Pat Toomey, you know, Pat Toomey smokes the big Roy Blunt's. And Richard Burr from North Carolina, he's been smoking that Roy Blunt for some time now.
Starting point is 00:22:48 So those are all of your senators, including Roy Blunt, who are out there smoking the Roy Blunt. They're not having any of this heat. And many believe that Ron Johnson, who is high so much, at least he appears to be high so much. He's probably smoking the Roy Blunt and Chuck Grassley. He's in his nineties. He's probably, he's probably doing. He's putting the grass in Grassley with that Roy Blunt. Yeah. He's probably not even smoking that Roy Blunt. He's probably shooting some, I won't even go there with Grassley and his pigeon, his pigeon tweets. Yeah. What are the pigeon tweets? I don't know if you guys have ever seen them, but Grassley will tweet just random tweets about pigeons and random things
Starting point is 00:23:30 like with typos and all caps. And it almost sometimes looks like he accidentally sent a tweet that was supposed to be a private text to somebody or that like he pocket dialed or pocket tweeted. It's very weird stuff. He'd be like, found your pigeon, spelled like P-I-D-G-I-N Found your pigeon in the
Starting point is 00:23:52 street. Put tag on pigeon. Alert. Alert. Real tweets. Real tweets. Yeah. Alert. Alert. Horsie don't like pigeon. You know what? It really reminds me of is like one of the opening scenes to Billy Madison when Billy sees the penguin
Starting point is 00:24:08 and he just starts chasing after this imaginary penguin. It's how I see those tweets play out live. Okay, we're getting a little off the rails here, Ben. What's next? Shampoo makes your hair clean. In addition, do you guys think that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, is he going to smoke the Roy Blunt? By the way, for those who don't know, smoking the Roy Blunt means retire.
Starting point is 00:24:28 That's a new Midas touch terms. Who's smoking the Roy Blunt? So is Mitch McConnell going to smoke the Roy Blunt? Apparently he's thinking about it. I mean, there was a report that he's trying to figure out his his succession plan because McConnell is trying to figure out who will take his spot if he were to leave before his term is up. As you know, he just won another term against Amy McGrath in Kentucky. Come on, Kentucky. Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul. Come on, guys. We could do better than we could do better than these two. Under current law, the power to appoint McConnell's replacement would fall to the current Democratic governor, Andy Beshear. But McConnell is apparently working in the back rooms trying to get new legislation passed in the
Starting point is 00:25:12 Kentucky General Assembly that would strip the governor, such an evil man, that would strip the governor of this power to put the power in the hands of the state GOP to name his replacement. Everyone kind of knows at this point that it's McConnell being the one who's pushing this bill so that he can name his own replacement. But the claims about as to why he's pushing this bill, why he's considering leaving the Senate vary. Some people think it's age. Some people think it's health concerns. Some people think that it could be investigations into his wife, Elaine Chao, which are underway right now. So a lot of people are speculating. I don't think we know the answer just yet, but I think we could all agree
Starting point is 00:25:49 that having no Mitch McConnell in the Senate would be nice. And it's a lot of rats right now fleeing this sinking ship of the GOP. And I think this is why as Democrats, this is why as Midas Touch, we have an always on approach here that we hope the Democratic Party takes note of. We need to be fighting for those races today. We need to start naming candidates. We need to start rallying people around these Senate seats today because we need to win them. We need to flip the Senate so that Joe Manchin doesn't hold as much power as Joe Manchin holds. We need to be always- on. We need to be doing this now, today. I agree with you. And I just would be remiss if I didn't mention that this is one of the other GQP scams right now is trying to preclude the
Starting point is 00:26:36 governors of having power because as Democratic governors come into power, now the one of the ways the GQP cheats is by basically having the state legislatures or assemblies. That was a whole theory they were trying to push in the election to that the governors don't have any authority. It should be the legislatures. And then I guarantee you, if the legislatures become Democratic, it should be the governors. These are horrible, awful cheaters. And as Brett said, we need to go with the unified message that it is actually the Democratic Party that is delivering for the American people. When we come back on the Midas Touch podcast, we will be here with my friend, my client, the brave and heroic Akeem Aliyu. We will be right back after these
Starting point is 00:27:16 messages. Welcome back to the Midas Touch podcast. I am so excited because we are here with my client one of my best friends in the world Akeem Aliyu what's up Akeem how are you I'm good I'm good it's a pleasure to be here I'm so proud of what you guys have been doing and what you guys have built so I'm honored to share this platform with you and I'm proud of what you guys have been doing and what you guys have built. So I'm honored to share this platform with you. And I'm proud of what you've built, Akeem, professional hockey player. Akeem is now the chairman of the Hockey Diversity Alliance, an organization to eradicate racism in hockey. And I met Akeem probably November or so of, was it 2019 Akeem? 2019, yes, sir. And Akeem, what were the circumstances in which we met where you made national headlines
Starting point is 00:28:13 and then continued thereafter to make national headlines for your work exposing racism in the sport of hockey? Obviously it was one of those things where when I sent my tweet, it was never anything that was calculated or really knew what kind of reaction I would get. And obviously, things kind of blew up pretty fast for me. So it's funny because I don't even think I've ever told you the reason how I found you. So this would be cool to talk about it. Breaking some news. Before you tell how you found us, tell us what the tweet was. Our audience is very political, but they may not know the hockey culture at that time.
Starting point is 00:28:54 So if you can describe what the tweet was, what made you tweet it, and then how you met me. Yeah. So it was one of those things where I was sitting around and kind of saw things happen over and over with coach-to-player abuse, racial abuse in hockey that I've obviously dealt with since I was a little kid. And my mindset obviously kind of changed from it being all about me and trying to advance in the sport and get better and move up ranks to paving a path for,
Starting point is 00:29:26 for the next generation and how it could be smoother for them. Because I obviously think at the, at the end of the day, people are going to remember you for what, what you left the game like behind. So my tweet was about essentially a racial incident that happened to me in 2010. I was a rookie playing for the Chicago Blackhawks system in the American League, which is a level lower than the NHL. And I kind of ran the music in the dressing room.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And the coach came in one day and said, hey, Akeem, I'm sick of you playing this nigger shit every day. Nigger this, nigger that. And it was kind of one of the craziest things that's ever happened to me you can hear pin drop in the dressing room um and people didn't know how to react i mean in the since then the 11 years pro and four years of major junior that i played with i've only played with one other black person and uh in my life and obviously that that day in the dressing room there was no other people
Starting point is 00:30:21 of color in the dressing room so it was super other people of color in the dressing room. So it was super awkward, to say the least. Guys were kind of looking over from the corner of their eye, but didn't really know how to react. And it was one of those things where you kind of felt helpless, because even if you stood up and did something or went crazy, as I probably should have, you'd be looked at as the angry black guy. And hockey obviously still has a lot of issues. But 10 years ago, it was that much worse where a certain few individuals have essentially your career
Starting point is 00:30:50 in the palm of their hands and they navigate it as they see fit and when they see fit. So for a long time I was scared to speak out, but obviously I summed up the courage to do that, like I said, because I just felt like the game was more than about me and advancing my own personal agenda, but it was about the kids coming up. So that's a little bit about how that happened. And then the next year after you experienced that in 2010, you had an experience in Colorado, which you also, which was also shared publicly as well. And what was that experience yeah that was uh it was another um crazy thing um i i was
Starting point is 00:31:28 invited late to uh i was playing in colorado at the time for the winnipeg jets farm team um once again a level lower before below the nhl um and i was told to come late to a halloween party um and obviously at the time i didn't know that um i would be showing up late i thought the party would start at the time that i was invited to come um and i showed up and my trainer i went down to the basement and the whole team was already there and my trainer at the time um kind of came out from behind the corner and he was wearing um the colorado our team jersey and he had my nickname dreamer um on on his back um but he was wearing um an afro and he was painted in all black he had the black face on and like the red lips and all that um and he jumped out and kind of started making these funny noises and
Starting point is 00:32:19 um it was it was the most awkward thing because it was that it was it was a team party with with wives and kids and and all that and everybody thought it was really funny but obviously my dad being black and i kind of know the history of of of black face and and and just what it's done to people and how it portrays black people um so i definitely knew there was something wrong with that but it was another instance where, what are you going to do? Like you're going to go crazy in a, in a, in a room with kids and wives and your coaches and everybody. So I kind of had to swallow it up again,
Starting point is 00:32:55 take a bunch of pictures and kind of made, made of a fool. And obviously the following day I had something to say to the team and they thought that I was in the wrong and I ended up going home from that and requesting a trade. And that's when I had something to say to the team and they thought that I was in the wrong. And I ended up going home from that and requesting a trade. And that's when I got traded to Calgary. And Akeem, if you can tell us just briefly your journey from Russia, Nigeria to Canada and your experience getting into hockey. Yeah. So I was born in Africa, in Nigeria. When I was 11 months, obviously my dad's Nigerian. When I was 11 months old, I moved to the Ukraine, to Kiev. And then I split time between Kiev and Moscow. So I was there until about nine years old.
Starting point is 00:33:39 My mom's Ukrainian. So my dad met my mom in university. He was on a partial track, partial scholastic scholarship and met my mom in university. My brother was actually born in Kiev in 83. He's six years, seven years older than me. So after that, we migrated to Toronto in um and we moved downtown um and obviously it was um one of those things where I feel it's it's hard to say where for the longest time I was kind of ashamed and embarrassed of my upbringing just because financially we we weren't as obviously especially being in Canada you know the difference when um you're not as financially well off as other people.
Starting point is 00:34:25 So I was embarrassed. But now I'm almost proud of the fact that I saw so many things growing up. I saw my mom be one of the only white people in a small village in Africa. And the way people look down upon her. And that's one thing I preach to everybody. There's race everywhere we look. Racism everywhere we look. So i saw the way she handled that i saw my dad having a lot of issues in the late 70s and 80s being strip searched by cops being robbed a couple times a month being beat up
Starting point is 00:34:54 um in the soviet union in the late 70s early 80s and just the way they handled that saw my dad come home crying many nights and it was one of those things that stick with you you're eight nine ten years old but um those things stick with you. And the reason why we moved to Canada is because my parents obviously knew we, myself and my brother had zero future being black kids in the Soviet Union at the time. And then coming here was one of those things where things were obviously much better as Canada is a much better country and I'm proud Canadian,
Starting point is 00:35:23 but socioeconomically and financially it was really tough for us we were in a city we lived on welfare for years hard to make ends meet my parents degrees didn't mean anything um they moved here with two kids um in their in their 40s and literally had to start life all over again so I saw them scratch and crawl the way up and then to top it off i wanted to play the most expensive sport possible um so obviously that's uh that brought up its whole new challenges of trying to be able to play the game um it was really tough in the beginning buying stuff at garage sales and taking buses three four hours across the city to get the
Starting point is 00:36:01 the games and it was one of those things, like you remember little things like coming off the bus and hiding because you didn't want to see your, you didn't want your teammates to see that you're coming off public transportation while they're rolling in and trucks and Maseratis and all those things. So I always knew that I was a little bit different. I didn't really understand how until I got a little bit older, but it was one of those things that now I'm grateful for, for those experiences. I think I learned a lot. And Akeem is incredibly humble, but he became one of the, if not the top prospect in Canadian hockey. And Akeem experienced a hazing incident. Akeem has always been someone who's just called out racism, violence, bullshit. And that's what
Starting point is 00:36:43 I've always appreciated and respect that he's the most real person I know, but it didn't just happen recently. He's been doing it his whole life. And so Akeem, if you can talk about the incident when you were a teenager and the hazing experience you exposed and how that impacted your prospects going into the league, despite everybody seeing you as the top hockey player in Canada. Yeah, well, I appreciate that. It's tough because I was drafted at sixth overall to Windsor. So I was the sixth, quote unquote, if you can say that, the sixth best player in Canada in my age group.
Starting point is 00:37:22 So I got drafted by Windsor. And during training camp, there was a guy named Steve Downey, who the first day I got to town, and it's one of those things where you need to understand the context of the way it works. We live with village families. So I moved away from home at 15 years old to live with a family that took me in, in the, in the,
Starting point is 00:37:41 in the town that I was playing in about four hours from here, Windsor, Ontario. So it was the first day that i got to to windsor and my parents dropped me off with my bags and took off so obviously i'm trying to get my bearings i've never been away from home i'm 15 years old and um one of the older guys named mike weber who ended up playing for the buffalo saber said hey we're going to steve downey's house and he was the first round pick to the philadelphia flyers so the national hockey league so he was like the the shit in town you know what I mean the cool guy had success in major junior it was an NHL draft pick played for the Olympic team um so he would he was he was essentially the man on the team and I walked into the basement the
Starting point is 00:38:21 first night in winter I'll never forget it and he said what's this nigger doing in my basement and that's kind of the way things started for me in junior and it was one of those things i just swallowed up and ate up i mean i'm a 16 year old i was the youngest player after me was 18 years old on that team and they'd already formed a relationship and it's my first first first night in town so obviously i i ate that and then as training camp got going I was coming off an Achilles Achilles tear so I was about for about eight months after surgery just rehabbing hoping to start the season on time and he just started doing little things like shooting pucks at my Achilles and started putting tiger balm in my jock and throwing my clothes on top of the arena roof so i couldn't get it after practice throwing my my shit in the shower um after practices and um we were on our we were on a trip
Starting point is 00:39:12 um it was an exhibition game to sarnia about an hour and a half away from windsor and he called all the him and the veterans called all the players to the back of the bus and said all the rookies have to strip down naked. And those Greyhound buses, I'm sure everybody can picture them. And essentially, you guys all have to go into the bathroom, which is, I don't know, the size. Like, you could put your – I could wrap my hands around how big that bathroom was. And the six of us went into the bathroom naked
Starting point is 00:39:44 and they shut the door and turned up the heat and you could imagine like hockey guys are pretty big guys and six naked hockey players men in a bathroom locked in and they locked the door and turned the heat up and obviously guys start panicking and getting claustrophobic and one guy threw up and so then i just like snapped and panicked and started punching the door open for like two three minutes and then finally he opened the door and i said i'm done with this i'm done so it's essentially a hazing ritual that quote-unquote every rookie has to go through so i said i'm done and he's like no you're getting back in there and i said
Starting point is 00:40:21 i'm fucking done like i'm done and he pushed me and i hit him on the bus and we got into a little scuffle um so then he said to me watch what happens next practice so i didn't think anything of it like i didn't think like two days later he was going to remember it and in the warm-up drill of next practice he i felt the tap of my shoulder and i turned around and he cross-checked me in the mouth and knocked down my whole top row and four teeth on the, in the bottom row. Um, so then obviously I ended up fighting him again on the ice and, um, the fight got broken up and it was one of those things where the, it was,
Starting point is 00:40:57 it was Tuesday. So, um, media was around. Um, so they caught wind of it. I think it was one of those things where if it wasn't even a Tuesday, I don't think anyone would have known anything about it and then it just became national news here across Canada and like I think people gotta understand like I'm a black inner city kid and like I just wasn't ready for that shit like being in a little town like that all that media coverage across the nation and my dad's not a hockey guy he didn't see a ring till he was 40 years old like my mom doesn't know much about hockey so it it was just a shitty, shitty situation that I didn't really know how to control. And from that, I ended up being the villain as the guy that fought back.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And he ended up continuing to play for Team Canada. My draft stock fell, fell, fell. At the midterm rankings, I was ranked the fifth player in North America to go to the NHL draft. So and then next rankings, I'm 35. Following rankings, I'm 56. And I just didn't understand what was going on. And over that time, I just developed a reputation for being, I guess I stood up for myself,
Starting point is 00:42:00 but my reputation was being difficult, not going with the old boys club and not being able to fit in and not going with the ritual. So that was tough to take to. And Akeem, just with the visual of the bathroom, you're six feet four. Yeah, I'm six, four, 220. So you can imagine cramming six people in the Greyhound. Now talk about you meeting me and the story that I've never heard. So the context behind it, though, is that after Akeem went through these experiences, he was labeled a troublemaker. Anytime Akeem was able to play, he always did great, you know, but his chances of playing were far and few. But anytime they put him in an NHL game, he would score. You know, even when they would put him in the minors, he'd score. But he would never actually get the chance to stay on a team because they would treat him as the difficult guy.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And they would tell the agent, we don't want difficult guys. And that was the label basically for a black NHL player at the time, which was a difficult guy. So that gives you the context of Akeem sending that tweet that he mentioned at the beginning of the interview. And then Akeem meets me. Yeah. So it was my, my tweet was sent from a sauna at my gym, actually. That's how much planning I put into it about Bill Peters and the racial incident that happened in Rockford. And then like literally put my phone away and I come back to it 20 minutes later after my shower and my phone is like literally hot like going going off like i think at that time i had like 2 000 followers by the time i get back to my phone like it's it's just going insane um and
Starting point is 00:43:37 obviously everyone's trying to reach me local media international media so i start to panic because i don't know how to handle it so I call my dad and my dad's like what like what's going on like I saw I see your tweet up on SportsCenter and I didn't tell him anything about it so he's like what's going on and I was like yeah I don't know dad like my bad like it was just like a spur of the moment thing and I just said who cares I'm gonna send this tweet so then my brother and my, my, my, my brother and his girlfriend come over and we're just like, my phone's going off. There's people outside my house. My, my, like,
Starting point is 00:44:13 it's, it's insane. So then she just like out of nowhere, she's like, you know, like Colin Kaepernick dealt with something like this. Why don't you try to get in touch with these people? And I'm like, there's no chance Colin Kaepernick's people are going to want to deal with me like I'm a nobody you know what I'm saying like what so then she went online and she googled um Colin Kaepernick's attorney and we contacted Ben's office and told them kind of what was going on and I don't know who I got I can't remember her name but it was it was a she but she's like I'm going to get you in touch with the right person within. I went for a walk because I just didn't know what to do. I took my dog for a walk. And I remember this, like it was yesterday, like deja vu. Um, Ben called me
Starting point is 00:44:54 when I was in the park, just around the corner from my house and essentially said like, Hey, what's going on? I'm Ben. Um, I, I rep call in, um, how are things going? And I kind of filled, filled you in on everything. Um, you said you'd hit me back you kind of did your research you hit me back within half an hour and that's how our our brotherhood formed and we've talked for what every day ever since um every day since and if we don't talk one day we're like what did i do to you what And then we flew in, I flew the next day from, from LA to Toronto. We met in person, we met with the heads of the NHL, and then you and I paved the path that led eventually to the creation of the Hockey Diversity Alliance. You've worked since that time with youth. You've built coalitions and groups to help shed a light on racism in hockey. You've pushed the game forward in major ways and
Starting point is 00:45:54 made and prioritized hiring of black and brown people. And you've brought attention to that this exists at all levels. And just tell us briefly about the Hockey Diversity Alliance that you created, that you're the chairman of. And actually, you met with Colin Kaepernick about that when that was being created. And the HDA, as it's called, has become a major force in professional hockey and all hockey around the world, and giving a voice to black and brown hockey players. Yeah. You know me, Ben. I'm super honest. And a lot of these things that you bring up were your idea. Like, I'm honest about it, and it's the truth.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I've learned so much from you since day one that I'm forever grateful for. And the HDA was your idea as well. You said, why don't we get players of color together, guys that have been through it? And that's when I went and we get players of color together, guys that have been through it? And that's when I went and contacted a bunch of guys that obviously that I know in and around the league and what is now the HDA. And we came together, I would say really raw and authentically, where we just kind of shared stories for about a month and a half
Starting point is 00:46:59 and just realized that we've all been through the same thing. And Colin was generous enough. Obviously, the guys were starstruck. realize that we've all been through the same thing and Colin was generous enough um obviously guys were star struck and Colin was generous enough to um to come on a call with us and just lend his um expertise and everything that he's gone through and what he continues to go through and I'll never forget it one thing he said to us it's all about sticking together it's going to be a lot of people that are going to try to pull us apart and um he even understood the fact that football is a lot different than hockey is there's only a handful of us playing the game so it's going to be that much harder
Starting point is 00:47:33 for us to make a difference um but his his um his his what the message that he sent to us was completely invaluable and um he really taught us a lot in that conversation and since then we've grown I mean we're doing so many good things I think I don't want to I don't want to take the credit or the HDA but this is the first time in our game where we have a black assistant coach in the NHL we have black referee the first black referee in the American League was actually a good buddy of mine we have a black assistant GM which has never mine. We have a black assistant GM, which has never happened before. We have a black announcer in Seattle coming up. That's never happened before. So two guys on the HDA, one's a head of player development,
Starting point is 00:48:13 Chris Stewart in Philadelphia, Trevor Daly's working in Pittsburgh. So I think we've just, in a very short time, we've done so much in working with youth, obviously with my own Time to Dream Foundation and the plans we have with the HDA for camps and a lot of inner city initiatives, which I think are lacking in the game. And we want to reach those kids that look like us. I think that's the most important thing. And I think the NHL doesn't understand the fact that if you reach a larger demographic, your pool of talent is going to be that much better so but they they kind of feel like status quo is is is good for them and they like the the quote-unquote white fans that they have now and the corporate fans and but we're going to continue to push um on on our own here and continue to grow the game and i think we're doing an amazing job at
Starting point is 00:49:01 it and i think we're just getting started akimkeem, one of the things I really admire about you is you don't just talk the talk, but you walk the walk as well. And what I mean by that is what you mentioned earlier about hockey. For those who don't know, it's an incredibly expensive sport. You have to buy ice time. The equipment is just absurd. And so what you do, and as I follow you on social media, you're one of my favorite followers. I see you with all these kids, either in the inner city or just really the next generation
Starting point is 00:49:30 of hockey players. How much does that mean to you? How important is that for you to really grow the game for people who may not have the opportunity to play? Yeah, no, that's an amazing question. Being honest, I fight every day with feeling like, and I talked to Colin about this a lot, like feeling like my dream was ripped away from me. So I have this like hate towards the game, but I still have a love for it that I want kids that look like me and were in my circumstances to be able to be successful for it.
Starting point is 00:49:59 So I'm not going to, I'll tell the truth. Like it might not sound great, but I battle with that every day. I have a love hate relationship. But it's to me, that's the number one thing is to touch those kids that that were me 10, 15 years ago and give them an opportunity. I think a lot of kids get exiled in a way out of the game before they even get started because of costs and just how expensive it is. Like a pair of skates is $1,000. To get on the ice is $300 an hour. And there's just right away kids get eliminated out of the game before they even have an opportunity
Starting point is 00:50:34 to show their skill. And I was this close to being me. I had a few certain individuals. Martin Ross was my minor hockey coach, and he gave me an opportunity to play for free when I wouldn't have been able to play AAA anywhere else and without him I'm still tied tied tied to him by the hip without him I never make it to the OHL I never make it to them get drafted in the NHL or play or play in the NHL so I just want to be able to to look back 10-15 years from now and kids say hey because of Akeem I didn't quit or because of Akeem and what he's doing with this foundation,
Starting point is 00:51:07 I was given an opportunity to play the game and stay in the game and be successful in the game. So to me, that's first and foremost, most important. And that goes beyond my legal issues with the NHL and all the other shit that comes with it. It's, it's helping the next generation. I'd argue that it goes beyond hockey itself. I think there are kids out there, you know, black kids out there who want to be scientists who want to be doctors who
Starting point is 00:51:29 want to do a whole host of things and they don't have a pathway or they faced these barriers of racism along the way and got discouraged because of it. And I think what you're doing is, is so, the ripple effect will be so much bigger than hockey at the end of the day to so many kids out there. I'm with you on that. And to be honest, I'm just learning that I, I had a hockey mindset about it, but I think it's societal. I think people of color go through the same issues in the corporate world
Starting point is 00:51:56 where there's not many of them. They're, they're too scared to, to speak up or kids trying to go to law school, kids trying to go to medical school. It's very disproportionately low numbers of black and brown kids doing these things. So if you can have a little bit of influence on the way society looks at people of color and every avenue of life, I think that'll be amazing. What would you say to those kids? Would you echo Colin's statements to you to stick together? Would you have anything to add to that? Yeah, I think it's being proud of yourself.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I think that's what I would add. It's funny. I was talking to my girlfriend, Chrissy, about this. And being so around white people in the sports that I played, at a point, it became where I was trying to be like them you know what I mean dress like them do stuff with my hair like them and it was like subconscious and I didn't really understand it until I got older that I got to be proud of me like whatever I am like there's only one of me and now like I'm I'm so confident in my skin. Like it, you can't say anything to me to really phase me. So I think it takes a certain level of bullshit to go through, to get to that, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Yeah. And I hope most kids don't have to go through or all kids don't have to go through what I went through to get to this place. But that's kind of what I would, I would preach the most. Akeem Aliyu, thank you so much for joining us on the Midas Touch podcast. Thanks for being a great friend, a great confidant in everything we do together. And I know we're just beginning our journey together. So thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Man, pleasure is all mine. You guys are amazing. And what you guys have built in the last seven, eight months is nothing shy of incredible. So I'm so proud of you guys, man, and keep going. Thank you so much. We will be right back after these messages. Welcome back to the Midas Touch podcast. Akeem Aliyu, it was so incredible to get to share his story with our audience. I think many
Starting point is 00:54:09 Midas Touch supporters do know this story of Akeem Aliyu, but a lot of us, just because we cover just raw politics so much, don't get to hear that story. It's really one of the most inspirational and incredible stories I know. And Ben, let me drop some facts for the listeners here, because what people do not know, I'd be remiss if I did not mention this, is that Akeem Aliu is integral to the birth of Midas Touch itself. Do you remember when we started Midas Touch? And you could still out there right now, if you looked at our account, our very first tweet, which I believe was on March 27th, a couple of days after he made our account, is a video of Akeem Aliyu. He was literally the first tweet we ever did was the Akeem Aliyu video challenge. It
Starting point is 00:54:59 was at the beginning of the pandemic. And we at first at that time, we're not a political action committee, but we were a blog and we're trying to do news and things like that. And we, at first, at that time, we're not a political action committee, but we were a blog and we're trying to do news and things like that. And Akeem did this video where he was balancing a piece of exercise equipment. He wasn't wearing his shirt and he was rolling. It's a really impressive video that, let me pull it up.
Starting point is 00:55:19 So I'm on it now. I was posted March 27th. It has five likes, all of which are us, all of which are only us, and two retweets, both of which are only us. And it has 50 views. And I think we may have to now... So it says pro hockey star and social justice leader, Dreamer Aliu is keeping spirits up with a new viral video challenge he created from home. Evidently not very viral. We got to retweet it tomorrow at some point. We'll make it viral now. But look it up and we'll retweet it out. But Hakeem has been a, in addition to just being
Starting point is 00:55:58 such an amazing person and, you know, his story was so heartwarming and the role that you guys played together to build this hockey diversity alliance is heartwarming and and the role that you guys played together to build this hockey diversity alliance is really special and the fact that he put all this work into also helping us start Midas Touch and has supported us literally when we were the only people liking our own content I love Hakeem so I think before we wrap up the show guys I think we should just hit on some of the big news of the week that people need to know. There's a lot going on. Ben, why don't you kind of just tell the people what's happening these days? Yeah. So Lindsey Graham gave a very strange interview saying that Trump is very dark,
Starting point is 00:56:37 has lots of dark magic, and can be incredibly evil, but that he thinks that he can harness the good out of Donald Trump. There's something about Trump. There's a dark side and there's some magic there. What I'm trying to do is just harness the magic. This was an interview with Axios reporter Jonathan Swan. Jonathan Swan's face the entire interview. His is just a gape looking at him like what the fuck is this guy saying lindsey graham is like well you must not know me very well and jonathan swan's like yeah that's why i'm asking you questions my election's over yeah i could
Starting point is 00:57:17 throw him over tomorrow right why aren't i yeah that's what i really don't understand well then you don't understand me very much. I don't. That's why I'm asking you. That's right. I'm trying to understand what the hell you're talking about. That's why we're doing this. It was one of the go watch that interview.
Starting point is 00:57:34 If you've got some time, Trump is still losing the election. I guess one of the things that many people don't realize is some of these lawsuits are still that he filed the 60 or 70 lawsuits, all of which he lost other than one lawsuit, which was irrelevant to any outcome of anything. But Trump continues to lose these lawsuits. He just lost a case in Wisconsin and, you know, just a myriad of losses, the worst legal record, I think, in the history of American jurisprudence. There are also reports that Manhattan DA Cy Vance is actively working to flimp Trump organization CFO Allen Weisselberg and his investigation into Donald Trump. And we're
Starting point is 00:58:21 also aware that Georgia prosecutors are investigating Trump election interference and have hired a top racketeering attorney to do that. And other news in more DeSantis, Deathsantis corruption, Florida officials are calling on the FBI to investigate, quote unquote, red carpet vaccine, where Death Santas was prioritizing vaccines for wealthy communities in a quid pro quo for campaign donations. DeSantis claims that's not the case, which probably means it is the case because everything Death Santas says is a lie. In positive news, positive in the negative sense, as Trump would say. Oh, what a callback. COVID is now spreading at the slowest rate since the beginning of the pandemic, with U.S. vaccination efforts picking up speed.
Starting point is 00:59:13 New coronavirus cases in the United States rose 1.5 percent in the week ending this Sunday, which is the slowest increase since the pandemic began almost a year ago. This means, of course, that the Republicans will try to come up with efforts to expose more people to COVID because at the end of the day, they are a death cult. They're pro-COVID. That is your Midas Touch News Update. To close this incredible Midas Touch podcast, let's give you some hate mail. Hate mail? Brought to you by the uncancellable brother, Jordy Micellus.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I stand behind that. You two can easily get canceled. I don't think there's a world in which- I'm not sure where you're getting this from, but why don't you read- Can I say his name or do we have to bleep it out? That's a joke. No, you can say his name.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Can we get an email from a guy named David Tolison? Subject line. Yes! Exclamation point. I just had the FCC fine you 50K and seize your assets and website for printing libtarded nonsense fiction. I should beat all three of your asses in public
Starting point is 01:00:19 on principle as a life lesson. You just got fucked and there's nothing you can do about it. Except for my Android. Please excuse my brevity. Yeah, you got to read the signature. A couple things. One of our followers pointed out that David Tolison, the person's name, is very similar to David Denison, which is the pseudonym that Trump would use when he would make phone calls and put in quotes about himself to the press and stuff. So it is interesting that it is David Tolison and it sounds very similar to David Denison. Maybe this is Trump's burner. Also,
Starting point is 01:00:49 the initials David Tolson, DT, Donald Trump. I don't know if we're pissing Trump off with these podcasts and with our video still and if he's trying to get to us through here. Also, I just had the FCC fine you 50K in Caesar assets and website for printing libtarded nonsense fiction. Is that a legal term that the FCC uses? Is that finable? I don't quite understand. I should beat all three of you. I mean, we haven't been contacted by the FCC.
Starting point is 01:01:20 So, you know, I guess to everyone listening, just see if you could go on MidasTouch.com and see if it comes up. Because last time I checked, we still have the domain and website, Mr. David Tolleson. I also don't know why the FCC would have any involvement in our pack. I'm not sure he's referring to the wrong organization. Does he mean the FEC? I have no idea what this guy's saying, but it was very kind of him to say, please excuse my brevity in his concluding statement. Yeah. I mean, we could, we can give you some more very briefly. David Sobolewski calls us fast schist pig spelled F.A.S.C.H.I.S.T. pigs telling us is not their strong suit. Not they're telling us to go to hell. Guy Racer, 13, who still maintains his AOL account. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Fascist pigs go to hell. Lifelong Democrats, your finger jokes boycott this Nazi lovers. What does your finger jokes mean? And how does he call us Nazi lovers when he's got like a literal Nazi party that he's defending? I'm with you. The other subject, re-oof, go fuck yourself and your whole fucking pack and the whole
Starting point is 01:02:22 orange ass dipshit Hitler. Fuck the hell off with you. Fucking fuck party. Don Jr. is really fucked up like the rest of it. I don't even know. OK, I'm so confused by this guy. Racer clearly didn't read the email he was sent and thinks he's on like Trump's email list or something when he's on our email list. This is actually a liberal or a Democrat.
Starting point is 01:02:42 It's not a Trump supporter. Fuck the hell off with your fucking C word. I don't know. Don Jr. is really. No, I think that's right. He says he says orange. Go fuck yourself and your whole orange ass dips shitler. So he's talking about Trump there.
Starting point is 01:02:57 So I don't know how we got looped into this. And then, you know. But here's my favorite. Here's my favorite. Sorry, I'm definitely saying this one. OK, so this is from George Brinkman. At AOL.com. And wait, is this a subject line to get, to get with?
Starting point is 01:03:14 That's our subject line that he's replying to. Okay. Okay. So this is from George Brinkman, AOL.com. All caps. Fuck you. And there you, and there you have it sent from my iphone i love when they have this thing yeah he should have had the brevity line please please excuse my brevity he got right to the point and without further ado that's does that make sense without further ado um i hope you enjoyed the Midas Touch podcast thank you for listening out there and making the Midas Touch podcast a top podcast not only in america guys in all of north america you can catch new episodes of the Midas Touch podcast every
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