The MeidasTouch Podcast - Rep. Moulton Responds to Trump’s Attacks on United States  

Episode Date: February 8, 2026

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump loses his grip on power as his own Republican Party is condemning his posts and Meiselas interviews Democratic Congressman Seth Moutlon on his res...ponse to Trump’s madness. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:08 chief propagandist Caroline Levitt said, stop being a snowflake basically. She goes, this is an internet meme, okay? And it's depicting Trump as the king of the jungle and Democrats as characters from the Lion King. So stop the fake outrage. Okay. And we're report on something today that actually matters to the American public. You got responses like this. A Republican Senator Susan Collins, Tim is right. This is appalling. Senator Tim Scott, Magga as you get, says praying it was fake because it's the most racist thing I've seen out of this White House. The president should remove it. It's interesting language there because there's a lot of other racist things out of this White House. It's the most racist thing. There should be no
Starting point is 00:03:51 racist things coming out of the White House. A Republican Congress member Mike Turner, I do not feel the need to respond to every inflammatory statement made by the White House. However, the release of racist images of former President Barack and First Lady Michelle Obama is offensive, heartbreaking, and unacceptable. President Trump should apologize. Just say you're sorry, and it'll all be oh. Just say you're sorry. I mean, what are we even talking?
Starting point is 00:04:18 It is all of the things that are being described, but just say you're sorry and we'll be cool. You've got Senator Roger Wicker says. This is totally unacceptable. The president should take it down and apologize. Just say you're sorry for posting the most vile racist thing ever. Then we're cool. Then we're cool again. Senator Britt says this content was rightfully removed.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Should have never been posted to begin with and is not who we are as a nation. That's your furor. That's your guy. That's your cult leader right there. Senator John Curtis goes, this post was blatantly racist and inexcusable. blatantly. He posted other race things, but this one was blatantly racist and inexcusable. It should never have been posted or left unpublished for so long. So then Trump deletes it. And now the White House is blaming a staffer and saying,
Starting point is 00:05:10 ah, it was a staffer who did it. We took it down after we identified it. And now there are stories like this. There's frustration inside the administration. And among some Republicans over the now deleted truth social post about the Obama's, multiple people now saying Trump did not post the video. He was with a staffer at midnight who did it and hadn't seen it before it was posted. One person says AIDS are pretty pissed off. You can't attempt to clean up the mess by continuing to make it easy. Or another person says, I want to bring in Democratic Congress member, Seth.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Moulton, who's running for Senate in Massachusetts says, well, Congress member. I read Caroline Levitt's post. That's Donald Trump's main PR, community. communications person who said, stop being a snowflake. We were doing Lion King memes. And that's why we posted the Obama's like that. And then they come up with this, ah, it's a staffer. And then you have all these republicans.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It's inexcusable. It's disqualified, but say you're sorry, we're okay. I mean, it's so embarrassing. And this is vile stuff, Congressman. The guy's a racist. Like, we just shouldn't be surprised. I mean, it's vile, it's inexcusable. It's horrific.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I mean, it would get President Clinton impeached. I mean, all these things are true. But it's also like this is just what Trump does. So no one should be surprised when he actually posts something this racist because he is a racist. And what's remarkable is actually the fact that he just successfully deleted it when his own, you know, private justice department has been quite unsuccessful at deleting all the Epstein files that he's been trying to delete because he's guilty as charged there as well. And lots of people were. saying he posted that last night in order to distract from the Epstein files, which he was trying to distract from by invading Minnesota, which he was trying to distract from invading Venezuela,
Starting point is 00:07:08 which he was trying to distract from from threatening to invade Greenland, which he was trying to distract. You get, you know, it's, it's all of the above because when they're a lying regime filled with liars and fascists, but I'll tell you, you know, when you look through these files, 38,000 references to Donald Trump. That's more than the name Harry and the Harry Potter books more than Jesus appears in the Bible. In other words, Donald Trump is a main character in terms of the sheer amount of references, but he goes, I'm vindicated. What's interesting, Congressman, I want to get your take on it. We see what's happening in other countries right now where they're having reckonings with their world leaders who were involved or knew and should
Starting point is 00:07:52 have known, yet Trump and Maga saying, ah, you know, vindicated, totally vindicated. Ridiculous. It's totally absurd. Imagine if it wasn't the president of the United States, but just one of his many ambassadors, just like the ambassador of France that Trump appointed, who turns out was in the Epstein files. Okay. Would we think of impeaching Trump?
Starting point is 00:08:15 Because that's what they're doing in the UK right now. I talked to someone this morning who said that the prime minister could very well. lose his job just because he appointed someone who turned up in the Epstein files and turned up a lot fewer times than Donald Trump. And that's because there's a sense of shame, right? There's a standard. There's a proximity. There are rules.
Starting point is 00:08:41 There's morality. Like maybe the guy at the top should follow the same laws that all the rest of us are supposed to follow. And maybe the guy at the top should even have a little bit higher standard. than everyone else if he or she is supposed to lead the nation. Like, that's actually what they apparently think in Britain. I mean, we left there, like, as a country, several hundred years ago because we said we don't want to be ruled by a king who doesn't share our values and our standards
Starting point is 00:09:14 and tries to put laws on us that don't apply to him. Well, now it seems that this is reversed, that we live in a place in America, where a wannabe king gets to get away with, I mean, we don't even know what exactly. I was gonna say rape and murder, but I mean, we don't know exactly, but you're right. There's no one who's in the Epstein files
Starting point is 00:09:39 more than Trump other than Epstein, I think. And yet people are just brushing it off. They're just getting distracted by other things, all the distractions he puts in front of us, while back in the UK, they're actually talking about firing the prime minister just because one of his people was in the files. Look, and I think that one of the things we can unequivocally say is that Donald Trump is a predator. He was found civilly liable for sexual abuse by a federal jury. He is on audio tape saying that
Starting point is 00:10:13 he grabs women by their vaginas because he's rich and he can molest them and get away with it because you're rich. He's on audio saying he would inspect girls naked without their consent in beauty pageants because as the leader, he claims that he gets to do those things. He said that Epstein's a great guy who likes girls or women on the younger side in a New York magazine article that Melania then read and wrote an email to Galane, dear G, Jeffrey looked great in that article. Can't wait to hang out with you soon. So all of those are undisputed facts.
Starting point is 00:10:45 But he is a predator. And his predatorial behavior, though, we see writ large, not just in the Epstein file, how he treats our neighbors, invading states with military. In every aspect of his life, this guy is a predator who just wants to inflict pain on people. And that's one of the things we saw in the Epstein files, too, the victimization of these underage girls and the sex trafficking. So here's a thing. And then the men using sex trafficking as their currency to inflict other pain on the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:20 So, I mean, here's the thing. if you're a Republican, there's lots of things you can debate about Donald Trump. You know, maybe you're a tariff guy, all right? Like, terrorists didn't work out so well in the past, but maybe you think they'll suddenly be brilliant for us now. You can have a debate about that. But just understand that anyone out there who's supporting Donald Trump is supporting a pedophile, a predator, and a racist.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Full stop. Just period. Okay? So we can debate your other policies. But those things are not really debatable. And every Republican who just blindly continues supporting this guy, who's gonna be thrilled to stand right next to him after he does or does not apologize over this latest blatantly immoral thing,
Starting point is 00:12:06 that's what they support. That's what they support. And that's how low the standard has gotten in America today. Yeah. And let's just talk about DHS for a moment. Let's talk about the invasions of Americans of American towns and cities by people who are basically cosplaying what you actually did as a Marine, as a veteran, when you were serving overseas in war zones, they train for 47 days because
Starting point is 00:12:36 Donald Trump's the 47th president. So they picked 47. It's not even training. They do something for 47 days. Then they go with their more military gear than frankly, you probably even had to wear in some of these areas because they're wearing superfluous things that don't, you know, actually aren't, whatever, they go into these areas and they start like spraying people in the face, throwing chemical agents, shooting people, killing people. And then we're told, we should negotiate. What, negotiate what? Get rid of them abolish these, but be talking about. Prosecute these terrorists. What are we even talking about here? No, that, that's absolutely right. It's hard to even know where to start. But let's go back for a second to the historical comparison I was using.
Starting point is 00:13:19 with Britain, right? One of the things that kicked off the revolution right here in Massachusetts was the Boston Massacre. What was the Boston Massacre? When the King sent a bunch of his troops to occupy Boston and they ended up shooting a bunch of civilians. That's what's happening now today. And of course, this president sent an armada over to Iran to try to stop the massacre of protesters in the streets, shooting, executing protesters in the street. He's willing to send an armada to Iran for that, although by the way, it didn't get there in time because the armada was in Venezuela, not where it should have been in the Mediterranean, but in Venezuela. So we didn't succeed in that, but he was willing to send an American armada, and yet he's
Starting point is 00:14:06 not willing to just tell his own state-sponsored terrorists to not do this in Minneapolis. So that's how hypocritical where this president is. Now, on top of that, you're right. The Marines that I served with, I mean, 18-year-old Lance Corporals and Privates in the Marine Corps were held to a far higher standard, morally, ethically, professionally, and legally than all of these federal agents in Minneapolis that are sent there to terrorize the city. But let's be clear, there are far more undocumented immigrants in Texas and Florida. So if they actually wanted to round up the most undocumented immigrants, they'd go to these red states. where they're all over the place.
Starting point is 00:14:51 But in Minneapolis, a blue city that Donald Trump just wants to terrorize with federal agents, the violence is the point. He sends a bunch of people, and they're all dressed up in military gear that's completely unnecessary. You don't need a flack vest and a rifle to arrest an unarmed civilian in America.
Starting point is 00:15:14 You see the local police are there. They're not armed like this, which again, back to the main point. The violence is the point. And they do these things. They kill Renee Good. They execute Alex Pretti. And no response.
Starting point is 00:15:29 An 18-year-old Marine would be court-martialed for that because it's murder. And yet there's absolutely, we had to be, it was extraordinary that they even were willing to start an investigation over Alex Prattie. And that only came after there was tremendous political pressure from both sides of the aisle to do that. There's still, to my knowledge, has not been an investigation for Renee Good. I've been in that situation before dealing with civilian vehicles armed at a checkpoint. That officer should be prosecuted for shooting her and should be disciplined for completely not following proper procedures and dealing with a vehicle. One of the thing you mentioned there, which doesn't get enough attention and it should. So let's make sure we cover it here is when you said that Donald Trump said he was sending this armada,
Starting point is 00:16:17 to go near Iran to help the protesters. Back in January, Trump was using his social media platform. Same way you and I started this interview, talking about him using a social media platform to post vile and racist images that he then kept on, but then deleted. He would post things like, to everybody in Iran, get out there in protest right now.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Take to the streets. If Iran and the Ayatollah do a thing, to you, I'm going to go in there, guns ablazing. I think he used that exact terms, and we are going to make sure that they get obliterated or whatever. And so the protesters, because the president of the United States put that message, they grew and they grew and they were the biggest protest in Iranian history. And then the Ayatollah regime starts a mass slaughter indiscriminately firing in the crowds, I mean body bags everywhere, and Trump's armada that he said was there, was not there. It was off the coast of Venezuela in his other invasion where he's taking the oil money
Starting point is 00:17:25 and putting in a Qatari bank account for himself with no oversight at all, which is a whole other interview we can do. The level of now he wants to do the war after the protesters have been killed, and the Ayatollah suppressed the protests where those protesters actually had a chance they thought to have democracy prevail. Yeah, I mean, you know what we don't talk about enough is just how many people have literally died because of this president. You know, there are the Republicans out there counting snowflakes.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And actually, there are a lot of people who are dying here. We now know the two in Minneapolis. There are a bunch of undocumented immigrants who have died in ICE custody because of the operations in Minneapolis. People in Minneapolis know their names, but the rest of us don't. But we don't talk about the thousands of kids who are dying in places like sub-Saharan Africa right now because he cut off all the funding to USAID. We don't talk about the thousands of protesters who died in Iran because exactly as you said,
Starting point is 00:18:28 he encouraged them to go protest and then he didn't back it up. He chickened out as he so often does. We're not talking about the thousands of American kids who are going to end up dead because they didn't get their vaccines, something we've been doing since, I don't know, 20s or 30s or 50s, depending on which vaccine you're talking about coming out. And yet all of a sudden, we're backtracking in 2025 and 26 because of Donald Trump and his administration with this complete nutcase, RFK Jr. as one of his cabinet secretaries. So the point is, at some day, historians are going to add up literally the number of humans who have died.
Starting point is 00:19:10 due to Donald Trump, and it will be a shocking number. But we don't even talk about that enough. It could be in the millions already. Thus far, it could be in the millions. Well, and let's hope it's not, let's hope, I'm sorry to interrupt, but let's hope we don't have to add a war to this. Because luckily, Venezuela didn't actually turn into a war. It would have been so easy for one of those helicopters to be shot down
Starting point is 00:19:35 and for dozens of Americans to be dead. And I think Republicans might have a different view on that operation now. I mean, he literally wanted to start a war in Greenland. He didn't get away with that. He's risking Ukraine erupting into something further because he won't stop Russia. And because Xi Jinping is looking at Trump and his response to Russia, the way he loves to cozy up to dictators and saying, yeah, I can probably get away with invading Taiwan in the next couple years.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I mean, as Xi Jinping starts that, tens of thousands of Americans will almost certainly die because it could well kick off World War III in the Pacific. So it's bad enough now. Let's hope it doesn't get hundreds of thousands or even millions worse. You know, his pathology, Trump's pathology, is this malignant narcissistic maniac. But I always view him as actually someone who's very weak
Starting point is 00:20:31 and who's very scared when it really comes down to it. Of course. You've served, you've served in, combat, you've seen people like Trump, you know, in the dictators and in other areas. Like, you have a unique insight into that pathology. Before we go, speak to that because I think that doesn't get enough attention that he's profoundly a scared individual. He's incredibly weak.
Starting point is 00:20:59 That's what bullies are. They're incredibly weak and a total coward. I mean, just a complete, full, and through coward. And you can see this throughout his life. He was perfectly happy to let someone go to take his number and go to the anonymous place. He was someone who was perfectly happy to throw people under the bus whenever it, whenever it looks. I mean, look, who's his staffer that he supposedly is blaming for the tweet last night? He's someone who regularly backs down.
Starting point is 00:21:32 That's why he's the taco president, right? He's the takato, they call him, right? because he makes big threats and he doesn't follow through because he chickened out. Because he chickens out. The problem is that before he chickened out, a lot of people often get hurt. And there are a lot of Americans who just can't afford groceries right now because his tariffs have raised prices across the board. There are a lot of Americans who can't afford health care right now because there's one big
Starting point is 00:22:00 beautiful bill, as they call it, is kicking 15 million Americans off health care. Marjorie Taylor Green, the most conservative Republican. and on the planet said her own family can't afford health care. There are a lot of people who will never get a good education because they will die before they get to adulthood because they're not getting vaccines because of this president. So everything in the short term, anything that benefits him and his image is good
Starting point is 00:22:28 and everything else is bad. And that exposes a profound weakness. We should want people leading this country who are actually selfless. We should want people leading this country who are principled patriots. We should want people leading this country who are willing to sacrifice, make personal sacrifices themselves for the benefit of others. Donald Trump is the opposite of all of that in addition to just simply being a criminal.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Congressman, where can people find out more about your campaign for the Senate? I know you got a lot of momentum there in Massachusetts. People are, you know, people want to, some people. who speaks plainly, someone who's out there calling balls and strikes and calling out fascism for what it is right now. Where can they learn more? So, Sethmolton.com or follow me on Instagram at Seth Moulton, S-E-T-H-M-O-U-L-T-O-N. I've been proud to have you on the team. This race is about the future of the Democratic Party. Are we going to stick with the same old playbook that's been failing us time and again, has gotten
Starting point is 00:23:32 us a second term of Donald Trump? Or are we going to pass the torch to a new generation of leaders? who can show that we not only can fight Trump harder, but we can lead. We need Democrats to lead. That's what we need right now. And there's a new generation of Democrats that are ready to do that. You see that across the country, places like Virginia, New Jersey, New York City, next generation leaders willing to take on the Democratic establishment. That's what this race is about, too.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And so I'd love to have you find out more and be part of the team. Congressman Seth Moulton, thanks as all. always good to see you go and everybody hit subscribe let's get to six million subscribers want to stay plugged in become a subscribers for our substack at midasplus.com you'll get daily recaps from ron philipkowski add free episodes of our podcasts and more exclusive content only available at midasplus.com

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