The MeidasTouch Podcast - Swalwell GOES ON OFFENSE against Trump…ALREADY!!

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas interviews Congressman Eric Swalwell who is prepared to fight and resist Donald Trump. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm joined by Congress member Eric Swalwell. So, Congress member, not the result that people wanted. I'm telling our audience, though, now is not the time to give up, not the time to give up hope. Now is the time to get to work. You put out a message today to that effect. What's your message to everybody out there? Yeah, let's get loud and let's get going, because if a young woman in Florida where a six week ban is now the law of the land can get up today and find her way through, we can, too. And if a soldier in a trench in eastern Ukraine who just saw their best ally walk away from them can keep fighting, we can, too. And if a high school student who's going to go to school today in a country that's going to arm mass shooters to the teeth and they're still going to get through it, we can too. It doesn't feel good to lose. It sucks. I hate it. I hate what this winner says about our country

and the people who make it so great. But we have work to do. We've dealt with this guy before. He's a one term president coming in all of the cabinet officials who will implement Trump's Project 2025. So we got to be loud. We have to get in front of all of the senators who are going to be voting on this and make our cases to them as to why people like Rick Grinnell and Kash Patel and all these others in the rogues gallery cannot be in charge of our country, why our kids need vaccines, and we're not going to let RFK Jr. as the health secretary take them away. So there's a lot of plays coming down the field. And so we should be upset, but let's put our helmets on, get back on the field and defend the yardage between us and Project 2025 becoming the law of the land.

You talk about two individuals there, Rick Grinnell, Kash Patel, who are now at Donald Trump's top list of leading the CIA. You talk about... Yeah, and by the way, if either of them are there, it's just the CA. Right. Then you have, you know, his picks for have his picks for Attorney General Judge Eileen Cannon, who dismissed his case when he stole nuclear secrets, is at the top of that list. Other individuals who have said some really serious things. What can we do? First off, what's Congress going to do?

As you're speaking to your colleagues, What is that resistance going to look like? Well, here's the good news about Congress. Best scenario is Democrats win, are in the majority. Hakeem Jeffries is a speaker. That can still happen. Worst case scenario is that we're in the minority, but Republicans only have a two or three seat majority. We just saw what that looked like with the shit show under speaker Johnson

and speaker Johnson was formerly the speaker functionally Hakeem Jeffries was a speaker because no vote of consequence passed without Democrats delivering the vote. So we know what that looks like. We can do that again. Uh, so we have to use the house as a way to fence in Donald Trump and his worst instincts. And a lot of people are talking about how the Supreme Court, we did a video on this this morning, the Supreme Court overturned the Chevron decision, which used to provide not carte blanche authority for agency discretions,

but gave agencies a lot of deference. Donald Trump and all of his people got that overturned. Now Donald Trump controls the agencies. And so there are people saying, and you're a lawyer, that the federal courts are now a route as well to kind of curb it, which is interesting that, and it just goes to show you the lack of strategy that they're having where they would have had all this deference to agency decisions. Now that deference is stripped away and federal judges in the first instance are now making decisions, which is what they wanted because they wanted to own the libs and own Biden. But now that's back to kind of haunt them here, if you will, or protect the people is probably a better way of putting it.

No one has ever accused them of being strategic or smart. So, yes, now they're going to have to live with the decision that their Supreme Court came up with, which means that everything effectively has to go through this pretty gridlocked Congress. And again, I want your viewers to know, because I understand like they may be upset, they may be feeling down, but the work that you did to elect Ruben Gallego and Alyssa Slotkin and Tammy Baldwin, that is the difference between running away with this stuff in the Senate and having tight margins where Murkowski and Collins and Tillis and others are going to feel a lot of pressure to work with us to inoculate against Trump's worst tendencies. The work that we did to win four House seats in New York, hopefully a couple in California, that is going to be the difference

between a robust Republican majority that can just rubber stamp Donald Trump's agenda or one that is going to really pare it down. So we did work that mitigated against what could have been just an absolute disaster. And so I want your viewers to know that I'm grateful that they did that work because it's all going to pay off as these next couple plays come down the field. You know, finally, on my TikTok feed, at least, I'm seeing, you know, all these videos of this group pointing fingers at that group and these people pointing fingers at these people. And, you know, I've been telling the audience, I'm not sure that's the most productive way of dealing with this. And there are certain lessons to be learned, of course.

But I think the recriminations and especially dividing each other is exactly what ultimately the people who helped Donald Trump get into power, the Elon Musks, want the people to be pointing fingers. I'm not helping you. So I'm not helping you. So what are the lessons, though, that, you know, it's recent. I'm sure you have some lessons that you've taken out of this election. And what are, what can we do, though, to build back, you know, this robust coalition that brought, you know, a big Biden victory in 2020? Well, first, let's show gratitude. Black women and black men showed up. I mean, they showed up at the same levels as they showed up for Biden or greater. And they, you know, were really, in leading up to this election, you know, the press, you know, extended this narrative that they were not going to show up. And there was

really no reason to extend that. And they still did. So I think we should thank black men and black women for really showing up this election. We have work to do clearly with different segments and people in our country. And we'll do that work. And we'll take the time to understand, you know, what it is. I will just say from where I sit, and I'm just a blue collar kid who's the son of a cop and was the first in his family to go to college. I think we have to be more real and plain spoken and authentic as we deliver our message. And we shouldn't lead with policy. We should lead with our personality.

And if our personality reflects our values and our principles and what we'll do if trusted to lead, I think that connects more rather than the Harvard Law School moot court approach that I see too often. But there's work for us to do and we're gonna do it. But as I said, we don't have the luxury of admiring the problem

because the next play is going to happen pretty soon. And we all need to be in the game to make sure that, you know, they don't score with Trump's Project 2025. Well, Congressmember Swalwell, our forum here is open to you, anyone else in the pro-democracy community, to make sure we get out all of those messages. And when we have you back, we'd love to hear too about you know what is it that people can do you know should we be writing letters calling congress members protesting being in dc you know what what is it we should be doing item item one on the to-do list is start to look at the committees in the senate who will confirm uh these. And again, if you don't want RFK to take away,

you know, your kids, you know, polio vaccine or the measles vaccine, get to know the health committee that's going to be confirming them and then look at the senators who are going to be up for reelection and ask them, are you going to be looking out for my kids?

Are you going to be looking out, you know, for your, you know, your leader, Donald Trump? Who will you choose? So we've got, as I said, that's coming soon. looking out for your leader, Donald Trump. Who will you choose? So we've got, as I said, that's coming soon. Congressman Svobod, thanks for joining us. Thanks, guys.

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