The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump and DeSantis Voters GO TO WAR AFTER DeSantis Drops Out

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on how Donald Trump supporters and Ron DeSantis supporters are attacking each other after Ron DeSantis dropped out of the primary because DeSantis said he would v...eto a bill in the Florida legislature to use tax dollars to pay for Trump’s legal defense costs. Head to https://Smalls.com/MEIDAS and use promo code MEIDAS at checkout for 50% off your first order PLUS free shipping! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:01 You would expect someone who claims to be a billionaire who has already grifted about $80 million in legal fees from his political action committee now needs Florida taxpayers to give him millions of millions of dollars and help him play his legal fees and perhaps additional funding later on. And a lot of people who were outraged about this, like you're going to be spending Floridian taxpayer dollars to help Trump pay his own legal fees, his legal defense costs. But then somewhat surprisingly, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, fresh off his failed bid for the presidency, weighed in. And responding to a report from Politico entitled, Some Florida Republicans Want Taxpayers to Pay Trump's Legal Bills, DeSantis posted the following,
Starting point is 00:03:59 quote, But not the Florida Republican who wields the veto pen. It's odd that Ron DeSantis finally grew some semblance of a backbone after he left the campaign trail, and notably using the language of this Florida Republican is not going to do that. And it's also notable that DeSantis weighed in at all on this. The next session in the Florida State House doesn't start for about five weeks, and the fate of this bill to pay Trump's legal bills remains unknown. Nevertheless, Ron DeSantis felt it was important to go out of his way to take this public stance. And you see it right there. So then Trump supporters felt
Starting point is 00:04:45 betrayed by this. They felt betrayed by Ron DeSantis' remarks, revealing yet another major rift in the Republican Party between the Trump and DeSantis factions. I've been talking about this a lot on the Midas Touch Network, on the Midas Touch podcast, that I think the DeSantis voters' eyes were open now to this weird, deranged cult behavior of Trump and his supporters and the propaganda media that enables it. You had Laura Loomer, a far-right activist who Donald Trump has praised before. She works with the Trump campaign. She was in Iowa, seemingly going around wherever Ron DeSantis was.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And then Laura Loomer wrote, Unity is impossible with at-team DeSantis. Look how disgusting he is. It's not us. It's them throwing a tantrum like a child. Hashtag Trump 2024. Hashtag never DeSantis. Then you had Kingsley Wilson of the right-wing think tank Center for Renewing America responded to Ron DeSantis and said, so much for unity. As though what, Ron DeSantis is obligated to support a bill to use Florida taxpayer dollars to fund Donald Trump's legal defense?
Starting point is 00:06:16 I mean, it's not showing unity to the MAGA cult by not paying Trump's legal bills with taxpayer dollars. I mean, it just goes to show you how just utterly North Korea propaganda this MAGA movement is. It makes North Korea propaganda jealous. Cat food has been the same forever, and it's time for cat food to move into the 21st century. That's why you've got to try Smalls. Are you still feeding your cat kibble? Make it your New Year's resolution to have your cat eating healthier food with Smalls. Smalls, are you still feeding your cat kibble? Make it your New Year's resolution to have your cat eating healthier food with Smalls. Smalls cat food is protein-packed recipes made with preservative-free ingredients you'd find in your fridge, and it's delivered right to your door. Smalls was started back in 2017 by a couple of guys home-cooking cat food in small batches for their friends. A few short years later, they've served millions
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Starting point is 00:08:54 That's what far right propagandist Jack Posobiec wrote. The language gets dog walked back to Tallahassee. These people who talks like this. You had Julie Kelly who describes herself, this is how she refers to herself, as a January 6th conspiracy theorist and insurrection denier was particularly angry with the Florida governor. Oh, look, governor, the governor with the most J6 defendants, including Trump, has thoughts, she responded, adding, Just wait until the Department of Justice investigates Ron DeSantis' super PAC, Martha's Vineyard stunt, and other made-up offenses. He'll be the first asking for state support.
Starting point is 00:09:42 That's what Julie Kelly, the self-described J6 conspiracy theorist says. DeSantis supporters push back, quote, my God, is she using leftist talking points to go after DeSantis? Asked a DeSantis supporting parody account on X named Burt Macklin in response to Kelly's statements. Here's another one. DeSantis doesn't think taxpayers should pay a billionaire's legal bills. In response, these people are practically hoping that Biden's Department of Justice goes after DeSantis. Julie Kelly has truly exposed herself as a bitter, self-important grifter who still feels slighted because DeSantis didn't answer a phone call. She's really no different than Lauren Loomer now, who hates DeSantis over a
Starting point is 00:10:33 personal grievance. Emotions remain raw, of course, after the bitter primary fight between Donald Trump and DeSantis. And the anger between the two groups is still palpable, with no signs of it fading away anytime soon. DeSantis supporters who once supported Trump, I think are finally facing the reality that the cult behavior of Trump followers needs to be confronted head on. And now that they're seeing what we've been trying to say, that this is a weird cult and this MAGA thing is not conservative and it is dangerous and strange. And I think they're seeing it now and they don't like what they see. And by the way, here's what Donald Trump had to say when it came to some, you know, Nikki Haley supporters or other Republicans who say that they're mainstream Republicans,
Starting point is 00:11:25 who say they're not gonna support Donald Trump. Trump says, I don't want their support. I don't need their support. Here, play this clip. How do you bring these Nikki Haley voters, some of whom voted for you in 2020, but say they don't want to now? They'll all vote for me again. How do you bring them back into the- They're gonna all vote for me again. They're gonna all vote for me again, everybody. And I'm not sure we need too many. Here's Donald Trump saying that 95% of the Republican Party is now MAGA. Play the clip. MAGA is not 48. MAGA is like 95% of the party.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And here's Marjorie Taylor Greene saying that if you're not with Donald Trump, they want you to be eradicated. It's not the language that they use. I mean, Jack Posibic, whatever his name is, dog walking back to Tallahassee. Marjorie Taylor Greene eradicated is what she says. Here, play this clip. This is a referendum on the Republican Party. And that's something I'll be saying in my speech tonight. This is a true change for the Republican Party. It says that not only do we support President Trump, we support his policies. And any Republican that isn't willing to adapt these policies, we are completely eradicating from the party. Here's an account, Peter Henline, at Swiss Watch Guy. I've been seeing this account a lot lately. I don't know, it comes up on my,
Starting point is 00:12:41 I think, algorithm on Twitter or X or whatever you call it. You know, and he's been posting some things that I'm like, yeah, I agree with some of the things that he's saying. Where I never thought there may be some agreements, I just think they're starting to see MAGA for what it is. You know, and this is what Peter wrote. He wrote, the entire past year, MAGA influencers like Laura Loomer have been telling us that they will only vote for Trump. She said she wanted the GOP to fail. She said she wanted the party to collapse. They are getting, they are going to get what they wanted. These are the voices that were elevated and honored. Loomer was the influencer Trump shared the most. Conservative media protected and promoted her. It was all out in the open. So please don't act shocked when normal people refuse to vote for this cult. And here is
Starting point is 00:13:33 Donald Trump praising Laura Loomer on the campaign. Play this clip. Hey everybody, we're here at Bedminster. I'm with the greatest president ever, President Donald Trump, who is killing it right now. There's a new poll out, right? You're crushing it. You're up over 50 points and it's a beautiful day here. Beautiful club. It's my first time here at Bedminster. Well, it's great to have you and you've been really very special. You work hard and you are a very opinionated lady. I have to tell you that. And in my opinion, I like that. Well, I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And I appreciate all of your support. And you've been terrific. And everybody appreciates you. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for inviting me to sit with you today. It's a pleasure.
Starting point is 00:14:14 You're the best. I love you. And here are certain posts that Peter pointed out that Laura Loomer would send. She would say things like, I'm not loyal to the Republican Party or the Democrat Party. I want them both to fail. I care about restoring America, and the only person who's going to do that is Donald Trump. I said millions of Republicans won't vote Trump if Trump is not the nominee, if he's removed from the ballot, and that's true. I am an only Trump voter. I refuse to legitimize election interference, voting for the choices of the regime. Laura Loomer goes in response to somebody saying,
Starting point is 00:14:52 this infighting is going to kill the Republican Party this election cycle. Laura Loomer responds, nobody cares. We only care about Trump. Too bad the Republican Party doesn't understand that. But I think lots of people in the Republican Party who consider themselves Republicans go, you know what? Maybe we should stop calling MAGA Republican. And as you saw, Donald Trump isn't calling the Republican Party Republican. He's saying that it's MAGA. We'll keep you posted on this civil war that's brewing. And it's not just between DeSantis voters and Trump, it's Nikki Haley voters and Trump. And frankly, it's amongst actual conservatives and independents and mainstream Republicans and Trump who look at this MAGA thing and go, wait, is he praising Kim Jong-un? Is he praising Viktor Orban and Vladimir Putin? Is he saying he wants to Jong-un? Is he praising Viktor Orban and Vladimir Putin? Is he saying he wants to be a dictator? Is he praising the January 6th insurrection?
Starting point is 00:15:51 What? What? That's why it's important that we just get the data out, that we just get the facts out. Because when people see the facts, I think people will look at Donald Trump, no matter where you are, unless you're a MAGA person and go, this is just disgusting, weird stuff. I'm Ben Myselis from the Midas Touch Network. Hit subscribe. We're on our way to 2 million subscribers thanks to your support. Let's get to 2 million this week. Thanks so much for watching. We're only a few subscribers short of 2 million subs. Please subscribe right now to the Midas Touch YouTube channel for free
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