The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump BLAMES his OWN SUPPORTERS Before Sentencing

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump blaming his supporters for his own actions to try and avoid accountability. Keep American farming going by signing up at https://MoinkBox.com/ME...IDASTOUCH RIGHT NOW and listeners of this show get FREE bacon in your first box Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/meidastouch Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:14 pawns in all of his schemes. Let me just give you the most recent example from this weekend. Donald Trump gave this contrived and highly edited interview with Fox and Friends over the weekend about his conviction in the criminal trial. And one of the things that Donald Trump was asked was about how Donald Trump would call for Hillary Clinton to be locked up and that Donald Trump consistently going into the 2016 election, the 2020 election, even to this day, Donald Trump consistently would say, lock her up and lead the chance with the crowd saying, lock her up. But now that Donald Trump faces his own sentencing on July 11th, where it is probable, potential at least, that Donald Trump will be incarcerated, that Donald Trump will be sentenced, that Donald Trump will be in prison,
Starting point is 00:03:06 he realizes that his words of calling for someone to be locked up could come back to hurt him. So what Donald Trump says in this interview with Fox, which is just such an obvious lie, because we all know the lock her up chant was like the biggest chant that Donald Trump led forever since he got into politics. Donald Trump said, I never did the lock her up. I never said that. It was actually just the supporters of mine. They were the ones who did that chant.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So Trump throwing these supporters of his, his cult followers under the bus to distance himself from him calling for Hillary Clinton to be locked up because Trump is worried that him saying that could hurt him politically or hurt him in sentencing or just hurt him generally. Watch what Donald Trump says here. Here, play the clip. I want to follow up on what Rachel asked you though, because I hear you struggling with it. I hear you say it's a tough question, a bit unsure. You famously said regarding Hillary Clinton, lock her up. You declined to do that as president. I beat her.
Starting point is 00:04:13 It's easier when you win. And they all said lock her up. And I felt, and I could have done it, but I felt it would have been a terrible thing. And then this happened to me. And so I may feel differently about I can't tell you I can I'm not sure I can answer the question Hillary Clinton I didn't say lock her up but the people don't say locker up locker up okay then we won and I say and I said pretty openly I say
Starting point is 00:04:37 alright come on just relax let's go we're gonna make our country great yeah and it would have been think of it you lock up the wife of a president of the United States. But they want to lock you up over $130,000 of an accounting thing, and she actually- And a perfectly stated accounting thing. But, you know, people also say, can you bring the country together? And the answer is yes.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Success will bring the country together because I had it together. Before the China virus came in, I had it together. We I had it together. Before the China virus came in, I had it together. We really had it together. And it would have stayed. I think it would have stayed. Everybody was doing better. The country was doing better than it had ever done. And we're going back to the same policies and then some. So that's so obviously false. And let me just show you some examples to prove that's false. But in this video, I want to share with you other examples where Donald Trump has so easily just thrown his
Starting point is 00:05:31 supporters under the bus. When it comes to border security, when it comes to the J6 insurrectionists who Donald Trump now sings songs with and calls hostages. Donald Trump continues to use his MAGA cult followers as these kind of kamikaze MAGA agents for his attempt to seize authoritarian power over our great nation. Let me just show you the examples though, to show that Donald Trump consistently said to lock Hillary Clinton up. Let me give you a recent example. Even after the 2016 election, this is Donald Trump saying it October 16th, 2020 saying to lock Hillary Clinton up and to lock Joe Biden, now president Biden up, play the clip. I'll tell you something though, lock them up. You should lock them up.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Lock up the buttons. Lock up Hillary. Lock them up. Here's a super cut of Donald Trump saying that he wants to lock Hillary Clinton up, courtesy of Mediate. Play the clip. Tell you what, for what she's done, they should lock her up. She's disgraceful. It's disgraceful. So crooked Hillary, wait, crooked and you should lock her up, I'll tell you. I'll tell you something, though, I just want you to lock them up. You should lock them up.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Lock up the buttons. Lock up Hillary. Okay, here's one. Just came out. Lock her up is right. You know what I've been saying? I've been saying let's just beat her on November 8th. But you know what? No, no. You know what? I'm starting to agree with you. I'll tell you. Right. So, I mean, clearly he's lying. I just wanted to show you the data to show you that Donald Trump clearly said that, but he blames his supporters. Oh, it was my supporters who said that. I didn't say that. Now, Donald Trump also told his supporters on January 6th that he would be walking with them to the Capitol,
Starting point is 00:07:47 that they would be going there together. Donald Trump never did that. And then when Donald Trump's supporters who were riled up by Donald Trump's calls for violence and Donald Trump's calls to take action and Donald Trump's calls to attack then Vice President Pence, now former Vice President Pence, and actually kill him, Donald Trump had an opportunity to actually pardon those supporters if he wanted to before he left office. But Donald Trump didn't do that. And why didn't he do that?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Because it was all about him. It was all about his own self-preservation. Now, they obviously shouldn't be pardoned. They deserve to be held accountable to the fullest extent possible under our law for their desecration of our Constitution and their attempt to overthrow a free and fair election. But Donald Trump used them as a pawn. Let me show you this example. Then I want to go on to another example where Donald Trump throws
Starting point is 00:08:51 his supporters under the bus when it comes to the border. Just to remind you, here is Donald Trump at the ellipse before the insurrection begins. And Donald Trump says, I'm going to be walking with you. Here here play this clip and Mike Pence is gonna have to come through for us and if he doesn't that will be a sad day for our country because you're sworn to uphold our Constitution now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down and I'll be there with you. We're going to walk down. We're going to walk down anyone you want.
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Starting point is 00:12:17 House Situation Room, anywhere else? To the best of my recollection, he was always in the dining room. Yeah, what did they say? Mr. Meadows or the president at all during that brief encounter that you were in the dining room what do you think they were i really was watching the tv do you know whether he was watching tv in the dining room when uh you talked to him on january 6th um it's my understanding he was watching television when you were in the dining room in these discussions, was the violence capital visible on the screen on television?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yes. Right. And look, if Donald Trump wanted to pardon them, he was still in office for another few weeks. He could have actually pardoned the J6ers. But no, what does Donald Trump do instead? Play the victim, call them hostages, make that part of his election campaign. Look at the hostages. Release the hostages, Joe. That's what Donald Trump says at his events. He
Starting point is 00:13:18 goes, release the hostages, Joe. They're not hostages. They're violent insurrectionists. But this is what he says now. Play this clip. What they've done and they ought to, you know what they ought to do? They ought to release the J6 hostages. They've suffered enough. They ought to release them. I call them hostages. Some people call them prisoners. I call them hostages. Release the J6 hostages, Joe. Release them, Joe. You can do it real easy, Joe. This guy, what he's done to people. Look, you had the opportunity if you wanted to pardon these individuals.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Here's an interview that Donald Trump also gave. This is with NBC. And here in this, this is with Meet the Press. And here Donald Trump says that he would pardon the Proud Boys leader, Enrique Tarrio. By the way, you're all aware of that. I'm not sure if you know this, but Enrique Tarrio was hanging out in the White House right before the insurrection. He took photos of himself in the White House. An actual terrorist. Be like Timothy McVeigh in the White House, right? Just remember, here are the pictures from Enrique Tarrio in December of 2020 leading up to the insurrection
Starting point is 00:14:29 saying, last minute invite to an undisclosed location. Never thought I'd be here. Trump basically invited Timothy McVeigh into the White House, but you have that. And here's Donald Trump saying that he would consider pardoning Enrique Tarrio. Play this clip. Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years in jail. Now that you know what the sentence is, 22 years in jail. Will you give him a pardon? Will you give other Proud Boys a pardon?
Starting point is 00:14:57 I don't know him. I never met him. I never heard of him until I started reading this stuff. Will you pardon him? But I want to tell you, he and other people have been treated horribly. Will you pardon him? But I want to tell you, he and other people have been treated horribly. Will you pardon him? In Minneapolis, I'd certainly look at it. I'd look at that and I'd look at all the other people that have suffered, the J6 people. And of course, Donald Trump grifts off of this whole thing. He sells the song, he copyrights the J6 song and makes a new national anthem with the J6ers.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And again, these were people who you told to do it, who you could have pardoned then, who you didn't pardon then, but you use them as pawns right now. Let's talk about border security, right? One of the big issues that the right wing always talks about is border, border, border, not just the right wing. I think it's important that there is border security. We're a nation of laws, and I think we need to have a compassionate policy. But I think that there needs to be, obviously, respect for the existence of borders and a
Starting point is 00:15:57 lawful process. I despise the xenophobic rhetoric about immigration, but I think there should be laws that control the flow. I think we can all come to some agreement on that. The most powerful bipartisan immigration bill in the history of the United States of America was drafted in the Senate, led by the most conservative right-wing immigration hawk, or however he bills himself, a Republican Senator James Lankford from Oklahoma. Democrats agreed to the bill to come up with a solution. And then Donald Trump, once again, throwing his supporters
Starting point is 00:16:41 and frankly our country under the bus, tells his MAGA cultists in the House and the Senate to kill a bill that would make our country better because he didn't want President Biden to get a win. President Biden's going to run on that. He got this deal done. Destroy the bill so America could have problems. And Donald Trump then just admits to it, throwing everybody under the bus.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Play this clip. But you give illegal taxpayer funded lawyers, so they have millions of dollars in this agreement in this deal, which we, by the way, killed. I think we killed it. I think it's dead. But you can never say it because bad bills always come back to life because these guys make a lot of money with bad bills. But they give millions, tens of millions of dollars that's down there to lawyers to represent the illegal immigrants that come into our country.
Starting point is 00:17:32 It's not even believable. Because the thing you always have to realize is Donald Trump is about one thing. Donald Trump doesn't give a crap. He hates the United States of America. He hates you. He hates your family. He hates the United States of America. He hates you. He hates your family. He hates everything this country stands for. He hates everybody other than Donald J. Trump.
Starting point is 00:17:52 That's all he cares about. And he will make any promise, any lie. It doesn't matter. His words are just absolutely meaningless. Yet corporate media wants to say, oh, according to the Trump campaign, according to the Trump campaign, this here on that same Fox and Friends interview over the weekend, Donald Trump says that he's going
Starting point is 00:18:11 to release the Epstein files. Here, play this clip. Would you declassify the 9-11 files? Yeah. Would you declassify JFK files? Yeah. I did a lot of it. Would you declassify the Epstein files?
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, yeah, I would, Attorney General. Once again, you were in office. You had the ability to do these things. You didn't do that. You had the ability to pass the Infrastructure Act. You didn't do that. You had the ability to pass a bipartisan border deal. You didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:18:40 You had the ability to do healthcare that you said. There's going to be a healthcare plan in two weeks. You didn't do that. You didn't do anything other than botch COVID and give tax breaks to billionaires and saddle our country with 30% more debt than ever before, which was the cause of inflation that President Biden had to fix. Anyway, you get it. But I wanted to show you those
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