The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump Blows Up in Oval Office Over Epstein Files
Episode Date: February 4, 2026MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump having a meltdown over the Epstein Files on live tv during a press conference today. Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 OFF their first bo...x - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to https://Wildgrain.com/MEIDAS to start your subscription. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Donald Trump just blew up
during a disastrous press conference
in the Oval Office
when he was pressed by members of the media
about his relationships with Jeffrey Epstein
and the fact that he appeared 38,000 times
in the partial release of the Epstein documents
from Friday, only three million documents were produced.
There's at least three million documents
that are still being concealed by Trump's DOJ
So when Trump was asked about his connections with Epstein and his appearance all over the files by Caitlin Collins of CNN, Donald Trump just lost it at her.
And he started saying, you know, my problem with you is that you are a, you're a young woman and you don't smile.
You need to smile more young woman.
It was gross.
He had a meltdown.
Just watch what took place.
Let's play this clip.
Time for the country to get onto something else.
You know, now that nothing came out about me, other than, you know,
there was a conspiracy against me, literally, by Epstein and other people.
But I think it's time now for the country to maybe get onto something else.
What would you say if people feel like they have gotten justice, Mr. President?
Something that people care about.
You know, what did you say?
What would you say to the survivors?
You are the worst reporter.
No one to see.
CNN has no ratings because of people like you.
You know, she's a young woman.
I don't think I've ever seen you smile.
I've known you for 10 years.
I don't think I've ever seen.
is smiling your face. You know why you're not smiling? Because you know you're not telling the truth.
And you're a very dishonest organization and they should be ashamed of you. Okay.
And then more questions were asked of Donald Trump's about his dark past and the fact that he
appears 38,000 times in the Epstein files, five thousand different documents. He appears. Donald Trump
says, you know, the real issue here, this is just a demonstration.
problem and I've been vindicated. No, you haven't. There are some of the most grotesque allegations
imaginable in these files about you and about people in your regime. Here, play this clip.
I'm going to get back to running the country too. Millions and me every week. You know,
when EPSC was alive, nobody cared about him. When he's dead, they care about him. But it's really a
Democrat problem. It's not a Republican. It's a Democrat problem. The only problem Republicans have is that we
have to get back to number one, running our country, and then number two, very importantly,
letting the public know what a great job we're doing. Then Caitlin Collins, who was on fire
during this Oval Office presser, she did a great, great job. She said, well, what do you say to
the survivors, the victims whose images, whose names, whose personal identifying information
was put out there by your regime in the incompetent and malicious way.
You've all handled the Epstein-file production while you're still withholding documents.
And Donald Trump seems to attack the survivors publicly.
Here's what he's doing here.
Play this clip.
I'm sure they're fine.
Otherwise, it would have been major headlines.
A lot of women who are survivors of Epstein are unhappy with those redactions that came out.
Some of them entire witness interviews are totally blacked out.
Do you think that they should be more transparent?
I'm also happy with the fact that they thought they released too much.
You know, I heard that.
And you tell me something else.
then Caitlin Collins doesn't stop there.
She says, well, what about the fact that lots of people very close to you have their names all over this thing?
Have you seen it?
Have you read about it?
Elon Musk, Howard Lutnik, and others.
And Donald Trump says, nah, no one's even talking about that.
So it can't be a big deal.
It would be in major headlines.
It is major headlines.
Right now, world leaders across the world.
are being toppled by their connections.
And you're at the heart of the cabal, Donald.
Here, play this clip right here.
What do you want?
On the Epstein Pals, you talk about Democrats who were in there.
Elon Musk was also in there,
and so was your Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik
and correspondence that he had with him.
Did you read those new files that were published
by the Department of Justice?
I have a lot of things I'm doing.
A lot of things I don't know.
You mentioned two names.
I'm sure they're fine.
I'm sure they're fine.
Otherwise, it would have been major headlines.
A lot of women who were...
Donald Trump is asked about the fact that the prior Lord Mendelsohn, former United Kingdom ambassador
to the United States, he's had to give up his titles, his affiliations, everything,
because his connections with Epstein were less than Donald's.
But they feel shame in the UK.
There's something called shame.
And they feel it rightfully so for engaging in despicable acts.
But Donald Trump's like, ah, whatever, it's too bad.
Too bad. Here, play this clip.
A few months ago you had in your office here, Peter Mandelson, the British ambassador,
you were shaking hands with him over a trade deal.
He's today being forced to resign from the House of Lords,
the upper house of the British Parliament, over his links to Jeffrey Epstein.
Just wondered if you had any reaction to that since obviously he was here.
I didn't know about it, but I really don't know too much about it.
I know who he is.
And then Donald Trump was asked about someone else who appears in the Epstein files.
over and over again, in connection with Donald Trump's first administration as well, Vladimir Putin.
So yesterday during a press conference, Donald Trump said that he spoke with Putin.
And because it was so cold in Ukraine, Putin promised Donald, according to Donald Trump yesterday,
that there would be no more attacks in the foreseeable future on Ukraine.
They would stop the Shahi drones from Iran.
they would stop the ballistic missiles and cruise missiles being shot at residential complexes
and energy infrastructure and government buildings and then bus stops and at people in Ukraine
in Kiev and Kharkiv and across various oblasts and Donald Trump said no no no Putin's a man
of his word Donald Trump said he said he would do it for a week so the week ended on Sunday
So when I told you on Monday, I had meant that it was actually done and Putin kept his word.
What are you talking about?
Here, play this clip.
On Ukraine, Mr. President, yesterday you were talking about how Vladimir Putin had agreed to pause during the cold weather.
Overnight, those attacks have started up again.
It was Sunday.
It was Sunday to Sunday.
And it opened up and he hit him hard last night.
No, he agreed.
He kept his word on that.
It was, it's a lot.
You know, one week is, we'll take anything because it's really, really cold over there.
But it was on Sunday and he went from Sunday to Sunday.
You just wanted you going to go further or go longer?
I would like to, I want him to end the war.
And then Donald Trump, before I go to that, you want me just to show you what he said yesterday.
So you can contract.
I just showed you the statement he made today in the Oval Office.
Okay, 24 hours ago, this is what Donald Trump said.
in the Oval Office, just so you can see.
He's just the biggest liar about everything here, play this clip.
There's tremendous hatred between Zelensky and Putin, tremendous hatred.
I mean, it's a shame, but it's taken longer than we thought.
I did call up President Putin, and he's agreed and he's put it out to.
They have the same cold wave that we do.
Maybe different because it's pretty far away, but it's the equivalent.
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It's much colder than us.
It's colder than they say, on average, it's a cold.
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So then Caitlin Collins again, superstar. She's been asking great questions. There are times where I don't
like Caitlin Collin interview. This is really good stuff. I got to.
to give you. I gots to give credit where it's due. And so here, Caitlin Collins asked Donald,
what did you mean when you said that you wanted to nationalize elections? And Donald Trump's like,
well, when you think about it, states are just agents of the federal government anyway.
Okay, so you don't believe in the First Amendment, clear. You don't believe in the Second Amendment
because you all said that if someone has a concealed carry license, they deserve to be killed.
You don't believe in the Fourth Amendment because you don't believe in judicial warrants. So you,
therefore don't believe in protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.
And you hate states rights, the 10th Amendment, right?
The whole thing is states rights, states rights.
That's what they told us all along.
This is about states rights.
Well, now you're saying, actually, states don't really even exist.
They're just agents of the federal government.
Okay, you don't understand the way federalism works,
but you do understand how you behave like a want to be authoritarian.
Here, play this clip.
What exactly did you mean when you said that you should nationalize a lot of
elections and which 15 states are you talking about?
I wouldn't see elections be honest.
And if a state can't run an election,
I think the people behind me should do something about it.
Because if you think about it, a state is an agent
for the federal government in elections.
I don't know why the federal government doesn't do them anyway.
But when you see some of these states about how horribly
they run their elections, what a disgrace it is,
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we had them last time, but go to 20.
And look at the facts that are coming out.
Rigged crooked elections.
If we have areas, take a look at Detroit.
Take a look at Pennsylvania.
Take a look at Philadelphia.
You go take a look at Atlanta.
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And the federal government should not allow that.
The federal government should get involved.
These are agents of the federal government to count the votes.
If they can't count the votes legally and honestly,
then somebody else should take over.
Then Donald Trump goes on to lie about Detroit, Pennsylvania,
and Philadelphia play this clip.
Federal government, when you see crooked elections,
and we had plenty of them, and by the way,
we had them last time, but go to 2020,
look at the facts that are coming out,
rigged crooked elections.
If we have areas, take a look at Detroit,
take a look at Pennsylvania, take a look at Philadelphia,
you go take a look at Atlanta,
look at some of the places that horrible,
corruption on elections. And the federal government should not allow that. The federal government
should get involved. These are agents of the federal government to count the votes. If they can't count
the votes legally and honestly, then somebody else should take over.
But the Constitution says it should be states that in the election, Mr. President.
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So she really loves the children.
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What do I get out of it?
There's nothing out of it.
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star, but we have a great first lady. She loves children. And then Cash Patel gave a appearance on state
regime media, and he said that he's still 100% that Epstein died by suicide, which we all know
at this point. That's almost certainly not what happened after reading these files. Let's play this
clip. You told me when we last talked, this is eight months ago when we did an interview at the FBI
in Quantico, that you were convinced that Epstein killed himself in jail. Today, eight's month,
months after that, are you still convinced? Yes.
100%. Yes, sir. And then Cash Patel is asked by Brett Baer, do you have any regrets about the way
the files were handled, even right now? Like, we know that the victims and survivors have been
retramatized. So a normal human reaction to a question if you have regrets would be, yes.
At a bare minimum, you screwed up. But more likely, y'all were malicious.
and are covering up a child sex trafficking.
But at a bare minimum, you were reckless.
So be human and apologize.
Not this regime.
Play this clip.
Special is involved.
Bouncing around, the Epstein files, the last tranche were told put out.
Looking back since the beginning and you've been a part of talking about this and
DOJ has obviously produced these elements.
Do you have regrets about how it's been handled?
Look, like any other hot topic issue, the American part of,
and the world had a great interest in this.
And what we did under President Trump's leadership
is produced the most transparent DOJ and FBI in history.
Three other administrations had the opportunity to do this,
and we produced everything we legally and lawfully could.
We work with our partners in Congress.
We follow the statutes and the court orders,
and we produce, what, 3 million some pages?
So I think we got to the result in the right way.
Could we have gotten there faster?
I'm not really sure because of numerous court cases,
multiple protective orders, multiple court ceilings.
And so now we've produced everything we can,
while protecting victims' rights and violence.
Do you think that it...
Well, there you have it, folks.
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