The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump CAN’T HANDLE THE PRESSURE as Biden Can WITH EASE

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

On this episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast: Trump goes all-in on his dangerous and dehumanizing rhetoric as President Biden goes on the offense; Rudy Giuliani declares bankruptcy as his life crumbles ...to pieces; Trump can’t stop contradicting himself in court filings, continuing to dig his hole deeper; The GOP primary has a major shakeup as Trump faces a potential threat from Nikki Haley; Secret new recordings come to light revealing the extent of Trump and RNC Chair Ronna Romney McDaniel’s efforts to overthrow our democracy; and more! Ben, Brett and Jordy break it all down! Watch the Meidas More after show and support us on Patreon at https://patreon.com/meidastouch DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS: SHOPIFY: Sign up for a one-dollar per month trial at https://shopify.com/meidas EIGHT SLEEP: Get up to $150 off when you go to https://eightsleep.com/meidas Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:56 over and over again. And this is important too. President Biden recognizes when he needs to kick up the momentum and he is starting that heading into 2024. I want to highlight some of President Biden's recent speech and I want to highlight some really positive economic news as well. Meanwhile, going back to the court cases for a moment, Donald Trump is telling the United States Supreme Court, surprise, surprise, that he does not want the Supreme Court to hear the issue of absolute presidential immunity yet. that his rights can be vindicated by a court where he's appointed three of the justices, and the other three are very right-wing, forming a six to three majority in the Supreme Court. But Donald Trump filed a brief to the United States Supreme Court saying, haste makes waste, and just take your time, Supreme Court. And then on the other hand, Donald Trump is telling the Washington or rather the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in New York that he wants the United States Supreme Court
Starting point is 00:03:12 to potentially weigh in on the E. Jean Carroll case on the issue of absolute presidential immunity. So he's telling one circuit court and one argument in another case with the Supreme Court, take your time, delay this. And then he's saying in the E. Jean Carroll case, this is such an important issue. Jack Smith makes some really good points about absolute presidential immunity. We will go and talk about that utter contradiction right there. Also, Donald Trump is now responding to the Colorado disqualification order by the Supreme Court in Colorado. Donald Trump has spent the day posting photographs of the four justices who ruled against him. That Colorado disqualification decision by the Colorado Supreme Court was a four to three
Starting point is 00:04:00 decision. Donald Trump does what he and MAGA do all the time. Dox people, engage in stochastic terrorism. There has been death threats galore taking place directed at these Colorado Supreme Court justices as Donald Trump and other MAGA Republican leadership attacks the justices. That's just their MO at this point. Attack the justices, attack the wives and the husbands and the spouses, attack the kids. They don't just their MO at this point. Attack the justices, attack the wives and the husbands and the spouses, attack the kids. They don't argue the law or the facts because MAGA is a full-fledged fascist movement. And also, I like this move by special counsel Jack Smith,
Starting point is 00:04:37 trying to call Donald Trump and Judge Cannon's bluff in the Southern District of Florida case. Judge Cannon has set that May 20th, 2024 trial date, which we all know is a BS date and that she hasn't even set the concomitant kind of classified procedure act, the SEPA related dates, if that was actually going to be the trial date. So Jack Smith did something, I guess if you're a legal dork like me, you find it very funny. Jack Smith's like, all right, motion for jury questionnaires. Let's start doing the normal stuff we got to do to get ready for trial. If you really want this judge Eileen Cannon and like clockwork Donald Trump, because he's only got one move, right? Delay, delay, delay files and opposition to the motion to have the jury questionnaire process
Starting point is 00:05:26 begin, which is exactly the result that Jack Smith wanted. And I'll explain why on the show. Ultimately, Jack Smith, I think, wants that Washington DC case to go first. And he wants to be able to basically say, look, that Southern District of Florida date is not a real date. And then finally, Rudy Giuliani declares bankruptcy. Chapter 11, after getting hit last week with a $148 million verdict against him in the Ruby Freeman and Shea Moss defamation case. By the way, that's one of the reasons that Donald Trump is running to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals and asking that they stay all of their proceedings so that Donald Trump can what? Contemplate a certiorari petition with the United States Supreme Court. He can contemplate oral argument before the Supreme Court because Donald Trump sees what happened to Giuliani. E.G. Carroll has Dr. Humphreys, the same exact expert that was used to prove reputational damages in Freeman and Moss.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And I think Donald Trump knows if that case goes in January, Trump's going to get hit with a verdict that resembles Rudy. And the same result may follow. Although unlike Rudy, Donald Trump still has a few hundred million dollars in a bank account. But in order to stop the enforcement of the judgment, like Ruby Freeman and Shea Moss would otherwise be able to start collecting on Rudy, that's one of the reasons why Rudy filed for bankruptcy. You have to post what's called a supersedious bond, which is equal to the judgment amount.
Starting point is 00:07:04 So if ultimately the judgment against Donald Trump is a supersedious bond, which is equal to the judgment amount. So if ultimately the judgment against Donald Trump is a hundred plus million dollars, Trump's going to have to post a bond that's basically equal to that amount with the court. Trump is terrified seeing Giuliani declare bankruptcy. And by the way, Giuliani's debt as it relates to Freeman and Moss, it's non-dischargeable. It's an intentional tort. It's done with malice. It involves fraudulent conduct. It involves malicious conduct. And so because of that, ultimately, Ruby Freeman and Shane Moss will be able to separate those claims in what's called an adversary proceeding, confirm in the bankruptcy the district court award in the Washington, D.C. federal court, and, you know, Ruby Freeman for the
Starting point is 00:07:52 Giuliani for the rest of his life, and then his estate, Giuliani's estate's going to owe this money to Freeman and Shamal. So in other words, not really that busy, pretty quiet here. But look, there's strong news going into 2024. There's good news going into 2024. It's not let's have hopium and be overly confident, but just think about though what people were saying a month ago. Not us here on the Midas Touch Network, because we try our best to be rooted in the principles that we talk about on all of these shows and have a consistency and honesty and objectivity rooted in data. But just think about everybody. What was a month ago, Brett and Jordy? The world is on fire. The world is on fire. It's over for Biden. It's over for Biden. We're like, okay, I know you're saying that, but why? That's just not what the data is showing. So if you want to give me
Starting point is 00:08:51 arbitrary feelings, connect your feelings to data, and then I'll take it a little more seriously. Brett didn't get the suit memo today. Brett, how are you? You're dressing up today, Brett. What the heck? Yeah, I'm a little bummed out here. I'm not even going to lie about it. I'm here. We come from an event. We're here in Washington, D.C. I figure we were done with our event.
Starting point is 00:09:13 We were going to get into our comfy clothes for the pod. You know how we always do the pod, kind of more casual. And I jump on the video chat over here for the live pod, and we got Ben, and we got Jordordy still suit head to toe making me look bad here but uh thanks guys i i appreciate the thing the thing is you changed like you changed really quickly we just got back it's not quite hard to take off a shirt and put on a comfier shirt you know speak for yourself i'm pretty comfy ben you look pretty good big bro i'm comfy and it's i don't
Starting point is 00:09:45 know how brett gets changed for me it's a little bit of a process i gotta get in the mindset he's shooting i gotta get you know how they say you know everyone puts their pant leg on one at a time i guess brett just jumps into his clothes i guess that's exactly i just i just actually i leap into it i haven't i i have it laid out kind of strung side by side and i just hop into it and then i backflip out of it and i go i'm ready well i know that's right the thing is you know the going back to the seriousness of what we were discussing before like that it's the problem with the media's kind of narratives of constantly chasing the polls rather than chasing the data it's a real flaw in the way
Starting point is 00:10:26 that the media is reporting on what's going on. And they go fall into these traps, literally every single election. And I'm not even quite sure I want to call it a trap because I think it is absolutely by design. They want to continue to create this horse race narrative because to them, it's much more exciting than presenting the actual data that is right in front of us. I mean, you can look back to past elections. If you look back to the election where you had Barack Obama running against Mitt Romney at December, same exact time in the election cycle, guess who was leading the polls by a whole lot? Mitt Romney. Guess who the doom and gloom the media was talking about incessantly? They were talking about,
Starting point is 00:11:12 it's all over for Barack Obama. It's all over for Barack Obama in this race. And so we need to take a step back and just actually look at what's happening. And when you look at all of these positive developments that we are seeing day in and day out, when you see things like consumer confidence surging to record levels, when you see inflation falling, when you see record stock markets, when you see Donald Trump going out there every single day and becoming more unhinged and more deranged somehow, We didn't think he could get worse. Well, guess what? He gets worse every single day, literally quoting Hitler on the campaign trail. As people see this, people take notice of the actual stakes of the election. I'm happy that finally, when I turn on the TV, finally, I hear these legacy media networks speaking about this.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Finally, finally, finally. And I want to say, Donald Trump using this phrase that he continues to tout at every single rally now. He's made it a part of his stump speech at his rallies, saying that immigrants are, quote, poisoning the blood of our country, directly ripping rhetoric directly from Adolf Hitler. I just want to say, we called this out on our Midas touch reporting months ago, our writer, JD Wolf, who's one of the best researchers in the game. He identified that Donald Trump was using that phrase in an interview. And we did a piece on it. Just to be clear, he was the first reporter in the world to do that. Yes. The very first. Nobody had paid any attention to Donald Trump using this phrase.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And our researcher said, that's a peculiar phrase that Donald Trump used during this interview, looked into it. And sure enough, the phrase was ripped straight from Hitler. And then it became a story. Then there was kind of a little wave of a new cycle about it. And some of those reports did appropriately give credit to the Midas touch reporting, which I thought was nice. Then they kind of forgot about it, right? Oh, he quoted Hitler a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:13:23 What are we going to do? He keeps doing it now. And now he's doubling down and tripling down to the point that finally you actually have the vice president of the United States and you have president Biden himself calling out Donald Trump for using this rhetoric. And I like this new gloves off president Biden, this new election ready president Biden who goes, okay, it's almost 2024. We're in this, right? I'm not going to mess around. I'm going to call it exactly how it is. I'm going to call out Donald Trump by name. I'm going to say exactly what he's doing,
Starting point is 00:13:58 and I'm not going to mince any words. And president Biden, Brett's your point. He's never been the issue here, right? Like he's willing to call out Trump every step of the way. And same with the VP. Here's the issue. It's with legacy media. Yes, we could pat them on the back now for saying, hey, thank you for finally reporting on the blood poisoning statements that Donald Trump continues to make. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Don't then the next week go back to polls this and polls that arbitrary poll poll. Like you got to stay focused on what this deranged human that is Donald Trump is saying and actually continue to report on it. Like I feel like at times I forget what movie it is, but the legacy media just gets so distracted. And there was this movie with a dog once, right? And the dog would see a squirrel and he goes squirrel. And he's just totally like, like lose his mind about what the issue at hand was happening. And I equate that as silly as that sounds to what legacy media is doing in this situation. The movie is called, the movie is called up.
Starting point is 00:14:52 It's a fantastic movie. I recommend everybody see up classic movie. It's also my reference. You can't just go and start stealing my references. You're not in a suit. I'm not in a suit. All of a sudden the guy in the suit's allowed to take it. And by the way, even if you want to discuss the polls, here's an issue too. More polls than not show President Biden leading. So it's like, why are you picking apart the negative polls and you're trying to bring those to the forefront and trying to create this narrative? And even the New York Times poll that recently came out that showed that President Biden was ahead of Donald Trump by two points among likely voters. What headline do you think they ran? Do you think they ran with the headline,
Starting point is 00:15:33 President Biden is beating Donald Trump at the polls? No, they ran with a pro-Donald Trump headline for their own poll that showed Biden beating Trump. It is really, it defies any reason and any logic other than they just want to see the horse race. They don't give a damn about our democracy. And they want to see Donald Trump. The media loves the, and loves promoting him and never holds him accountable over and over again. I mean, to your point, Brad, it's like if you look at the 2024 New Hampshire polling, for example, Donald Trump is in massive trouble in New Hampshire. Here's just one that just came out today, which has Donald Trump at 33%, Nikki Haley at 29%, Chris Christie at 13%, DeSantis at 6%. What a loser. And Asa Hutchinson somehow has 1%. But if you look at this- Who's the Asa Hutchinson voter? I got to meet him. I got to know who he is.
Starting point is 00:16:49 By the way, the DeSantis thing is something that we've always said. Sorry to interrupt you, Ben, but the more and more people get to actually know DeSantis and see him speak, if you want to call what he does speaking, yeah, they don't like him. He's a weird guy. Remember that narrative, though, Jordy? Remember in the beginning it was
Starting point is 00:17:03 DeSantis is Trump, but worse. And he is going to crush. He's smarter than Trump. And we're like, have you heard the guy speak? Like the guy can't even speak. I'm going to say something that may be a little controversial with our audience at this point. Good. You make controversial stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I want to say some controversial stuff. Don't wear a suit. Piss people off. Jordy doesn't do opposite. Hashtag cancel bread. Everyone get ready. Do it. Everybody get ready with your finger on the cancel button. Here we go. Brace yourselves. No, but I honestly, I think that we're at this point in the campaign right now where I do think that Chris Christie should drop out. And I say this as somebody who's admired Chris Christie's entrance into the primary, but I think that he accomplished exactly what he has needed to
Starting point is 00:17:51 accomplish here. He has appropriately spoken to Republican voters and he has told them exactly who Donald Trump is. Now we know that there's really going to be no chance of Chris Christie actually being the nominee. So why do I say that? Because I think the more that there are these other people in the race who are taking, you know, 11%, 12% of the vote in that range of Christie here at 13% in this New Hampshire poll, imagine for a second, Chris Christie comes out. That's a clear never Trump vote, right? The Chris Christie people aren't on the fence. If you're voting for Christie, that is an anti-Trump vote. So where does that vote go? I would argue that that vote probably goes to somebody like Nikki Haley, who would then have a much better shot at defeating Trump, not only in New Hampshire,
Starting point is 00:18:43 but in states across the country. Now, am I a fan of Nikki Haley? No. Am I a fan of Nikki Haley's policies? No. Do I want Nikki Haley to win? Absolutely not. But do I want to see Donald Trump lose? Yes, I do. I think Donald Trump is a threat to our democracy. And so I think acknowledging that Donald Trump is the ultimate threat to our democracy, I think at a certain point, you should say, you know what? I did my part here. Now let me back out. Let me let this never Trump vote consolidate in my party around another candidate who might actually be able to defeat this individual. Look, Donald Trump is incapable ever of admitting defeat. It's the biggest loser quality that he has. So purely for the implosion that will take place if he loses in New Hampshire, what will he say when he loses New Hampshire?
Starting point is 00:19:35 It was a vote of fraud. It was rigged. He's going to do the same thing. And he's going to fall right into a major pitfall, which is in that, you know, in that Republican race, I think that what you can start to see if Nikki Haley can kind of get momentum. If, if Trump wins in Iowa, which I'm beginning more and more to think, you know, that he probably does in Iowa because DeSantis is so bad. Like if DeSantis actual, like DeSantis is horrible. Like if DeSantis was half a decent, half a decent candidate, given all of the endorsements that he has and given that Iowa is a caucus state and it requires a lot of organization. You know, I think that DeSantis actually could have won Iowa and then he could have tried to springboard to New Hampshire. But if DeSantis can kind of keep
Starting point is 00:20:25 it not a complete blowout in Iowa, and Nikki Haley also makes a strong showing, that gives her momentum in New Hampshire. And when people look back at New Hampshire and everyone's like, oh, another prediction by Midas Touch that was accurate. And it's like, well, I I'd love to be like, well, we really looked here and I'll figure this all out. It's the data's still kind of staring us in the face. Like the poll that we're talking about from American research group. And it's not unique to that. There are so many there in New Hampshire. Also Nikki Haley has the endorsement from Governor Sununu, who knows that state well. Also, when you just look at the data in New Hampshire that they let, like, independents vote in that primary and people who are not registered, and you know the type of state New Hampshire is, you know the historical trends with the way New Hampshire breaks and usually does run slightly counter to Iowa. If you just analyze it from some of the most basic facts, you go, I think Trump's going
Starting point is 00:21:32 to lose New Hampshire. I think he's going to lose New Hampshire. And I do. I think Trump is going to lose New Hampshire. And that's what's in the data right now. Now, it's the same way as I've told you on the court cases where I'm like, look, the way I try to predict what what's in the data right now. Now, it's the same way as I've told you on the court cases where I'm like, look, the way I try to predict what's happening in the court cases is the same way a meteorologist tries to tell you when it's going to rain. I could look at the clouds. I could look at which type of clouds are forming. And I could say that weather pattern often results in thunder and lightning, and it's going to be a storm.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Does that mean the storm always hits? No, I mean, sometimes it tracks a different way, but I could tell you the way a storm is tracking or a legal momentum is tracking by just following the data and going back to our thesis at Midas Touch at this network is let's actually look at the data. And we could look at weakness, we could look at strains network is let's actually look at the data and we could look at weakness. We could look at strengths. We could, but like, let's be rooted in the data. And by the way, that poll was the American research group poll in New Hampshire that was just out there. And look, Donald Trump doesn't endear himself to anyone other than that ever shrinking MAGA base when he goes out and does this Mein Kampf stuff. And the way he even pronounces Mein Kampf tells you that he really knows it. He's not good at
Starting point is 00:22:53 pronouncing any other words, but he's got a perfect pronunciation too when it comes to Mein Kampf. Ben, our editor-in-chief, Ron Filipkowski, made the perfect tweet today. I'm paraphrasing him, but he said, you ever realize that Donald Trump, when asked to name a single passage from the Bible, is never able to name a single passage from the Bible, always makes up some sort of excuse. Oh, there's a technical issue. He says something like, oh, it's all of them or something like that. Yet he is able to quote verbatim from Mein Kampf. It's really a fantastic observation. And so let's take a look at what Donald Trump said in Iowa recently, where he keeps on going into this, immigrants are poisoning the blood. And he's very specific. This is not some ambiguous ambiguous language that his, you know, MAGA Republicans in Congress can even, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:49 try to make disappear. Like he's very specific. He's naming who he believes is poisoning the blood. He's referencing Mein Kampf and he says it over and over again. Same thing when he's doing the dictator for a day thing, you know, and that's become one of their, you know, one of their main talking points. And the same way it was kind of lock her up was kind of, you know, that shocking thing. Now it's dictator for a day and it's poisoned the bloodline that he talks about over and over again. Let me just remind you, let me show you this. I want to do, I want to do the president Biden, don't compare me to the Almighty, compare me to the alternative right now. So first, and this is what 2024 is going to be all about.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Also with President Biden armed with data on the economy. Let's start here. Let me show you, this is Donald Trump from Iowa. Let's play this clip. It's crazy what's going on. They're ruining our country. And it's true. They're destroying the blood of our country. That's what they're doing. They're destroying our country. They don't like it when I said that. And I never read Mein Kampf. They said, oh, Hitler said that in a much different way. No, they're coming from all over the world, people all over the world. We have no idea. They could be healthy. They could be very unhealthy.
Starting point is 00:25:11 They could bring in disease that's going to catch on in our country, but they do bring in crime. But they have them coming from all over the world. Okay, so that's him in Iowa. And then if you have any doubt what he's saying, this is Stephen Miller. This is his speechwriter. This is the person who is his closest aide, who will be in a Trump administration given a major position, whether that's a secretary of state, whether it's a chief of Staff, whether it is running a major department. Stephen Miller, there's no dispute, will be one of the top advisors in a Trump administration, if that were to ever disgrace our nation again. Here's Stephen Miller on Fox and take a look at what he had to say. Let's play this first clip of him doubling down on Trump, parroting Hitler. Play this clip. You used the right word.
Starting point is 00:26:06 We are being conquered. This is a complete resettlement of America in real time. It took hundreds of years, going back long even before our founding, going back all the way to the earliest days of the colonies in America to slowly build everything that we have. And now we have millions of people coming in from different cultures and different ways of living in different belief systems. They're going to take those belief systems with them to America. So a generation from now, I am telling you, Jesse, people will not know the country that they are living in. These consequences are permanent.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Unless there is massive, large scale deportations by the millions, it will be irrevocable. Unless there are massive deportations by the millions. And what is so horrific there is not just what he's saying out loud, but he's talking about a country that, look, a country needs strong borders. I agree with that, but this is a country that thrived because of its diversity. Exactly. And Stephen Miller is someone who benefited from that personally and then has such hateful views. Watch him and Jesse Waters in this next clip I'm about to show you where the hate, just the raw, unadulterated evilness. And you'll see Jesse Waters on Fox with that shit-eating grin of his as they talk about Stephen Miller getting a pilot license because he wants to spend the Christmas personally finding immigrants to deport them himself and round them
Starting point is 00:27:46 up on his airplane. That's what they're talking about here. Play this clip. And I'm hearing that Stephen Miller is getting his pilot's license next month and he's going to be personally deporting these people plane load after plane load. Is that true, Miller? Don't get me excited, Jesse. That's how you want to spend your retirement, right? Yes. I would spend my Christmas holiday doing that if I could, Jesse. We're talking about human beings here. We're talking about human beings here. And I know they want us to call them illegal aliens oh let's not forget we're talking about humans humans and to see them with that with that hate and and and laughing
Starting point is 00:28:34 at torturing people and ripping away people from their families like it honestly it's it's sad like as i watch that i i i almost tear up seeing that that there's just that that evil and he's mainstreaming that great replacement theory the white replacement theory that has already led to mass murder around the country i think everybody still remembers that horrific Buffalo shooting that was based on the same exact words that Stephen Miller is uttering there. Heck, even Stephen Miller's own uncle, I believe recently wrote, I don't know how recent it even was at this point, but he wrote an op ed basically saying that if Stephen Miller's immigration dreams actually existed when Stephen Miller's family came here, that Stephen
Starting point is 00:29:27 Miller's family would have been wiped out of the country. And so it's just hypocrisy at its finest. You have Stephen Miller, who is really just one of the most reprehensible human beings on the planet. And you have Donald Trump and his aides openly saying, if I become president of the United States, we are going to have concentration camps. We are going to round people up by the millions. We are going to kick people out of this country. And by the way, when it gets to that point, it's not going to matter, documented, undocumented, that's not going to matter to somebody like Stephen Miller. They are going to try to pick people off the streets and send them out
Starting point is 00:30:05 of this country or send them into camps. I mean, that is literally their plan right now. And you know what a fact check would be like from one of these legacy medias about that clip? They'd be like, oh yeah, he may have said that. Oh yeah, don't get me excited about flying the plane and going after illegal immigrants and deporting them. Don't get me excited. Oh no, they were just joking. They were having a good laugh about it. It was a joke. They were being sarcastic. That's not actually what they meant. And so it's just up to us. It's up to you, the Midas Mighty. It's up to just people who love this country and understand that democracy is at stake and human lives are at stake here, that there are really evil people out there like
Starting point is 00:30:44 the Jesse Waters, like the Stephen Millers who actually feel this way in their heart of hearts. And they may try and mask it behind some sort of sarcasm so they don't get utterly ripped apart by legacy media. But that's why we're here. And that's why we're throwing down the gauntlet like that is despicable freaking behavior that needs to be called out every step of the way. Like Ben said, those are human beings. Disgusting. Let's compare that though, because as we are approaching 2024, you got President Biden, I think, previewing what we're going to see over and over and over again in 2024. And President Biden realizes you got to pace yourself too sometimes. Like, you know, he's got to focus on governing. He's got to focus on addressing the issues of actually being the president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:31:34 He's like, yeah, I got this. I'm going to head into 2024. I am going. And Biden has stared down Vladimir Putin. Okay. Biden has stared down Vladimir Putin. Okay? Biden has stared down President Xi. Biden has stared down enemies of the United States with calmness and confidence. If you think that he's afraid of Donald Trump for one minute, no. One of my other predictions, you think Donald Trump will show up if he actually
Starting point is 00:32:06 becomes the Republican nominee to all of those debates against President Biden? Nope. Nope. Nope. Donald Trump is a coward. He is, trust me, he is afraid of President Biden. By the way, Trump's afraid of confrontation in general. Donald Trump hides behind all of the MAGA people. Donald Trump can't look people in the eyes and actually confront people. That's one of the things about his personality and his pathology. That's why he punches down all of the time. And that's why dictators and authoritarians know that he's a stooge and that they could use him. Let's go to President Biden right here, speaking about Bidenomics. But the first clip I'll show you is he's talking about the guy who thinks we are polluting the
Starting point is 00:32:56 blood of America. Let's play this clip. By the way, so far, we've created 14 million new jobs, more jobs in three years than any president has created in four years in history. This is a fundamental break from trickle-down economics. Economics that's supercharged, was supercharged by my predecessor, the guy who thinks we're polluting the blood of Americans these days. He cut taxes for the wealthy and big corporations, shipped good-paying jobs overseas, shrank public investment in infrastructure and education. We used to have the number one infrastructure in the world. Now we're number 16 or 17. We're changing that. Yeah, we're changing that. And one of the things I want
Starting point is 00:33:46 to talk more about too, is that, and I've been saying this on all of the shows, President Biden is grounded in a set of principles. And you know where he stands on the principles. Whereas the MAGA Republican Party and Donald Trump, it's whatever dangerous, deranged, unhinged, crazy, weird thing Donald Trump says, that's where they go. And when Donald Trump changes, they go there, there, there, there, there. And a lot of that comes from what is Vladimir Putin saying? What is Orban saying? What are they saying? And what is the kind of authoritarian alliance globally signaling to each other? And then how does Trump respond to that? And then MAGA reacts to that. That's why there is no platform even for
Starting point is 00:34:32 the Republican Party. But anyway, I want to show you more President Biden clips. I want to get into Donald Trump's response though to the disqualification order by the Colorado Supreme Court. Also want to talk about Donald Trump trying to, on the one hand, run away from the Supreme Court hearing oral argument on the issue of absolute presidential immunity. And on the other hand, using special counsel Jack Smith's argument, why the Supreme Court should hear the issue of absolute presidential immunity. Yes, Trump is citing special counsel Jack Smith in a brief in order to try to delay the E. Jean Carroll case from going to trial next month. Yeah, we'll unpack all of that. Let's take our first quick break of the day.
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Starting point is 00:40:08 Patreon.com slash Midas Touch. Check it out. I'll say more on that later, but I want to show you this next clip right here. We're showing President Biden from his recent speech, pushing back on some of this hateful rhetoric by Donald Trump. Let's play another clip of him doing that. Let's play the clip. You know, we always believe diversity is our strength as a nation. I don't believe, as the former president said again yesterday, that immigrants are polluting, polluting our blood. And then when President Biden was leaving the event, he was asked by reporters to comment on the order by the Colorado Supreme Court, the four to three decision disqualifying Donald Trump from the 2024 ballot in Colorado. Watch what he had to say about that. I'm not going to come in on a court case.
Starting point is 00:41:10 That's what I'm going to do. That's all I'm going to say. Did you see an insurrectionist? Is Trump an insurrectionist, sir? Well, I think so certainly he's self-evident. He saw it all. Now, whether the 14th Amendment applies, I'll have to coordinate that decision. But he certainly supported an insurrection.
Starting point is 00:41:36 No question about it. None. Zero. And he seems to be doubling down on about everything. Anyway. And so there, if you weren't able to hear it, for those who were just listening on audio, President Biden was asked about his thoughts on the Colorado court decision. And President Biden said, I'm not going to respond on how courts make rulings.
Starting point is 00:42:03 And then the reporter said, is Donald Trump an insurrectionist? And President Biden could have walked away and not answered that question. But as I said, we're heading into 2024 and he's showing that he's not shying away from answering that question. And he said, look, I'm not talking about the court case. If you're asking me, is he an insurrectionist? It's pretty self-evident. We all saw what he did on January 6th. We all saw that he supported the insurrection. But I'm not commenting on what the court's ruling about the 14th amendment. I think he answered that question perfectly. And he said, and he continues to double down, which it is. I mean, I think about like every episode of this show, when we play Donald Trump, what does he do? He is praising the January 6th insurrectionists. He is singing songs with what he calls the January 6th choir. And all of this, you see working its way into the filings from special counsel Jack Smith to make that exact point that this is an individual that shows no remorse, that continues to push the same insurrectionist beliefs day by day. To me, a question like that, of course, he's an insurrectionist. And now we've had multiple courts rule that Donald Trump is
Starting point is 00:43:18 indeed an insurrectionist. The lower court in Colorado ruled that Donald Trump was an insurrectionist, but they got caught up with the notion of, but is a president an officer or is it not an officer? Is it the office of the president? But they said very clearly that he is an insurrectionist. Then the Supreme Court said, yes, he is. The Supreme Court of Colorado Supreme Court says, yes, he is an insurrectionist. And yes, of course, the president is an officer of the United States. What else would he be? And now we're going to see the Supreme Court of the United States ultimately decide first if they are going to rule on this, and then ultimately we'll have to see what their
Starting point is 00:43:57 decision is. To me, if they are actually following the law verbatim, what it says in the constitution, of course, Donald Trump should be disqualified as an insurrectionist, just like many people were after the civil war. And I find it incredibly ironic, maybe is the word that you have all of these magas out there that are complaining about this Colorado ruling and are trying to go, you know, they try to go, oh, civil war, we're going to do a civil war. Okay. All right. All right. Losers. No, you're not. But it's, it's ironic to me that they're making these civil war claims based on an amendment that was added to the constitution in response to the civil war. I mean, everything comes full circle. And these are the same people that we're dealing with here.
Starting point is 00:44:49 These guys don't know their history. They don't know their history. You want to avoid being disqualified under the 14th Amendment, Section 3? Don't engage in an insurrection. It's very simple. I love this. Oh, just wait for the precedent this sets. I like a precedent of, you know what, It's very simple. no insurrection. Please hold the insurrection. So here's the thing, though. This should not have ever had to take a Supreme Court of a state to hear this because it is such common sense.
Starting point is 00:45:35 We all saw or heard or learned about what happened on the January 6th. We know what happened that day. The reason this has now become some kind of controversial issue is because one of the two major political parties, the Republican Party, has said, we're the insurrectionist party now. We're cool with this. We're cool with this conduct. We believe that is legitimate and that's within bounds and that's within what we expect of our leadership. And that's the part that's like, huh? Like if Kevin McCarthy, if Mitch McConnell, if Republican leadership said, you know what? We'll deal with the consequences if we lose this MAGA part of our party. See you later. But we have to stand for some principles. We have to stand for
Starting point is 00:46:26 something at a bare minimum. It should be democracy. That should set the floor. We could go up from there on some other things, but they didn't. They said, we don't care about democracy. So because the Republican Party has legitimized that behavior and the Democratic Party hasn't, it is not the Democrats who are politicizing anything. It's the Republican Party that has politicized an apolitical issue, an insurrection, like a revolution, like an attack on our democracy. They've turned one of the most humiliating, dangerous, hateful days of American history into like a call to action for them. Because you look at the 14th Amendment, section three, it is very simple what it says. I'll just read it just for the sake of showing
Starting point is 00:47:12 what it says. It says, no person shall be a senator or representative in Congress or elector, a president and vice president, or hold any office, civil or military. Let me just repeat that part. Or hold any office, civil or military, under me just repeat that part, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States or under any state who having previously taken an oath as a member of Congress or as an officer of the United States or as a member of any state legislature or as an executive or judicial officer of any state to support the Constitution of the United States shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. So the question is simple. Number one, did Donald Trump engage
Starting point is 00:47:51 in an insurrection or rebellion against the same, meaning against the United States Constitution? Of course he did. Did Donald Trump take an oath to support the Constitution? Trump claims he did it. How horrific is that? He claims he didn't take an oath to support the constitution only to protect and defend the cons. What we, that's an oath to support the constitution. He argues he didn't take that oath. And then he argues he's not an officer, but he argued in other cases that he has been an officer and it's office. It's the office of the presidency. So for all of these Republicans who go where strict textualists, where the words matter, okay, well, I just read the words. It's not a complicated analysis right there. And then they claim their state's rights. So that's what Colorado state has
Starting point is 00:48:36 decided, that they can challenge this. And it has to have a constitutional grounds, a constitutional infirmity, which is that you've aided an insurrection, this should be a no-brainer for the United States Supreme Court. And you may be asking, well, why is the United States Supreme Court even involved in this at all? It's because ultimately, if the highest state court interpretation of law, that's federal, not the state aspect of it, the federal interpretation is wrong or can be challenged, then the United States Supreme Court can review the highest ruling of a state court. And that's why the Supreme Court's getting involved. They can say, hey, we don't like your state laws that allow the challenge, but on the federal question here
Starting point is 00:49:26 on the 14th Amendment, Section 3, the Supreme Court will ultimately get involved in that question. So that's where we're at there. Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, these strict constitutionalists who are glossing over officer, I believe they're the same ones who gloss over well-regulated militia when we talk about the Second Amendment. I think they're the same ones who gloss over well-regulated militia when we talk about the Second Amendment. I think those are the types of strict constitutionalists that you're talking about. Is that right? Yeah. So they call themselves strict textualists, but any framework that they use is gaslighting. It is a framework that is used to justify whatever their position is, and then they change it. So they go, to your point, we're strict textualists. Okay, well, I just read the 14th Amendment Section 3. Oh, well, that text, the founders didn says a well-regulated militia, comma. So it says regulation and it talks about militias. How are you justifying that for some right to bear arms that is unregulated when it says
Starting point is 00:50:34 a well-regulated militia? What are the strict textualists say? Those words don't matter, right? They're states' rights when they can say that's why they want to overturn Roe. But when they overturn Roe v. Wade in the Dobbs decision, they go, okay, we're not state rights anymore. We want to make sure all of the states have a federal ban on abortion. They want to say they're originalists until their originalist interpretation does not comport to what they want to happen right now in the current world. And they say they're conservative until
Starting point is 00:51:06 they don't want to conserve democracy and they don't want to conserve our institutions. And that's why I say fundamentally, one of the things that I really like about President Biden is the normalcy, is the predictability, are the principles that he talks about on the economics. It's bottom up, middle out. On healthcare, we want to make sure all Americans have access to it, that it is an absolute human right that you have access to healthcare and that your life can be saved. When it comes to women reproductive rights, that women should have reproductive freedoms. When it comes to LGBTQ plus rights, it's that LGBTQ community should be treated like everybody else. They should marry and love who they want to love without the government's intervention. I could go through each thing,
Starting point is 00:51:53 but these are principles that are enduring and that are articulated and that are supportive of human rights. When it comes to jobs, it's let's increase wages for workers. Let's focus on workers, wages with dignity, better working conditions. I know where he stands. But Ben, going back to the hypocrisy of Trump, you could get into it without even going to all of these other issues. You could stay narrow on this Colorado Supreme Court issue, and you could expose the flaw in Donald Trump's arguments right there. Why? Because remember one of Donald Trump's first moves in this Colorado case, he tried to remove the case to federal court on the basis that he is what? A federal officer. Then he withdrew that move.
Starting point is 00:52:46 He withdrew his motion to remove it to federal court because he realized it would completely make his entire case implode because his whole case hinged on him arguing that he was not a federal officer. So even if you stay very narrow on the Colorado court case, you see how Donald Trump's own hypocrisy boxed himself in right there. And what you're seeing kind of across the country right now is Donald Trump and his horrific lawyers all throughout the country, all arguing different and often completely contradictory things that come back to backfire on him like multiple times. When Donald Trump is arguing, oh, I have the best properties. When he's in New York going, actually, they're worth more than that. Look at all this money I have. You know what case that screws over? Well, it screws up his E. Jean Carroll case when they're trying to figure out what the appropriate judgment against Donald Trump is, and he's trying to claim that he doesn't have these assets. Well, in this other case, you're saying that you have that Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion. You're saying you have all
Starting point is 00:53:54 this money, so why can't you pay this judgment to E. Jean Carroll? You're going to see this web of lies continue to spring back on Donald Trump and his attorneys because his legal team is horrible. Donald Trump is horrible. They have zero consistency and they frankly have no grasp of the facts or the law and they're just throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. By the way, that's why I love Justice Arthur Ngoran's ruling denying Donald Trump's five motions for directed verdict. I mean, Justice Ngoran points out, okay, you realize, first off, you're only supposed to do one of these at the end of plaintiff's case, the New York Attorney General's case in chief, but you did five of them, whatever. I'm listening to all five of them. Fine. But Justice N'Goran's like, okay, we've heard at nauseam the issue of valuations. And Justice N'Goran's like, I understand that there are different subjective ways to arrive at valuations. Justice N'Goran's like, I get that. That's not what your case is about. Your case is about the inputs, the data that goes into any subjective valuation. If your data is fraudulent, there is no subjective valuation that's out there under any accounting principle other than one of fraud and criminality that can grapple with this situation. The data that you input when you say that your property is a residential
Starting point is 00:55:35 property, but it's actually a commercial property and you use that as your data input, that is fraud. Mar-a-Lago is a commercial property. It's a club. You executed a deed saying it's forever used as a commercial club so you could pay less taxes. You deflated the value. Okay. You want to say Mar-a-Lago is so hugely valuable, huge, huge, valuable, the biggest property. It's $101.5 billion. Well, then you have to pay property taxes on it. That's what this case is about. You want to say that some of your buildings are fully occupied with the highest price per square footage when they're rent controlled and they're not fully occupied? That's just fraud.
Starting point is 00:56:17 It doesn't matter what subjective valuation that is. When you say your triplex is three times the size of what it actually is, there's not a subjective valuation economic model that deals, but you're putting fraudulent data into any potential model. And to your point, Brett, when he says his properties are that high in that case alone, he's undercutting his own arguments because then you should have paid property taxes at that amount. And you're saying amounts that are higher than anybody has ever, even when you put the fraud behind it, has ever
Starting point is 00:56:51 said it was valued at. But one of the other glaring examples over the past 24, 48 hours is we've heard from the outset, Donald Trump's lawyer saying when the indictment in Washington, DC was unsealed and the case where special counsel Jack Smith's prosecuting him for trying to overthrow the results of the 2020 election, like what have we been hearing since like August? Trump's lawyers, John Lauro, Alina Haba, we have a slam dunk absolute immunity defense here. Slam dunk. And they said that they were going to do it immediately in August. They were going to bring the absolute presidential immunity.
Starting point is 00:57:29 They didn't. They lie about that. But then throughout, they say, we want the Supreme Court to hear this. We're going to win. Alina Habba said this last week. She said it's in the past five to seven days. Watch what Alina Haba said about that she wants the Supreme Court to hear the issue on absolute presidential immunity. This is Trump's lawyer saying this in the past five to seven days. Play this clip. And I believe someone had called on the Supreme Court to do this exact thing. We need the Supreme Court to step in and stop this.
Starting point is 00:58:02 This has become complete mayhem. And if they don't start looking at these decisions and as the highest court in this country, as the arbiter of law, the ultimate arbiter of the Constitution, the people that are supposed to enforce our bedrock, if they don't start doing it, which thank goodness they are, we have some law and order hopefully soon. Well, people. OK, when she says they're supposed to enforce our bedrock, first off, she's like missing words there, but I won't, our bedrock of what, but I won't quibble with that. You know, she's not forced to do that interview, right? Like Fox didn't tell her, if you don't do this, something bad is going to happen. Like Fox didn't, Fox didn't, Fox didn't
Starting point is 00:58:44 do a Donald Trump there. Like when Donald Trump threatens, if you don't do this, something bad is going to happen. Like Fox didn't do a Donald Trump there, like when Donald Trump threatens, if you don't do this, bad things are going to happen to you. So she voluntarily went on as part of a spokesperson and his lawyer to push this message that they want the Supreme Court to get involved and get involved now. What did we say here on the Midas Touch Network? I said, watch what he's going to file when his response to special counsel Jack Smith's direct appeal to the Supreme Court is due. Trump's response is due December 20th. I said, he's going to respond that the Supreme Court should not hear it, that they should wait to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, and that delay is necessary and needed, and that this is not an urgent matter. Now, just pause for a second and think about this. If you were accused of something, let me start with
Starting point is 00:59:36 this one. First and foremost, if you were accused in a civil case, I'll go back to the New York Attorney General civil fraud case for a moment. If you are accused of something and you believe that you had the answers to it in your financials and you did all of this diligence and you're a powerful business person, then you decide not to testify on your own behalf on direct examination. I could overcomplicate that New York Attorney General civil fraud. I could get into lots of the issues, but if you have an opportunity to vindicate yourself, you don't testify and you blame a gag order that prevents you from attacking the judge's law clerk about why you can't go through the financials on direct exam. Now, think about it in the context of the DC federal criminal
Starting point is 01:00:22 prosecution. If you believe you have a slam dunk defense on absolute presidential immunity and that the Supreme Court is going to agree with you and that this is a no brainer, you then tell the Supreme Court not to hear it. You tell the Supreme Court you don't want them to hear the argument right now. You want to go through this process of being prosecuted and spending legal fees when you believe the Supreme Court will vindicate you. Then let me layer it on this fact. He appointed three of the justices. Three of them are people he appointed.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, and Gorsuch. Those are three justices he appointed. The other three, you have Alito and Thomas who are even more right-wing than the three he appointed. And then you have Roberts who's still right-wing, but a little more moderate, I suppose. So you have a six to three right-wing Supreme Court. You have your team on the bench. And then you claim that you have an absolute winner here, but then you argue that you want delay. That's what Donald Trump argued.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Special counsel Jack Smith said, okay, this is an important constitutional issue. This is an extraordinary case where even though the DC Circuit Court of Appeals has set expedited briefing, even though on January 9th, there's going to be oral argument there, Supreme Court, this is one of those cases where because Donald Trump is claiming that former presidents have absolute presidential immunity in criminal cases for criminal conduct they committed in office, this is something we need you to hear. There's a March 4th, 2024 trial date. Can you get involved? And Donald Trump then responds, no, no, no, no, no, don't get involved right now. Let's just see what the DC Circuit Court of Appeals does first, and then maybe we'll go to you later.
Starting point is 01:02:09 How do you not stipulate to certiorari oral argument if you're Donald Trump in that? And Donald Trump's brief, it's like embarrassing to read, but they have no shame. He goes, haste makes waste is what he says. Haste makes waste. Who, when they can vindicate themselves, comes up with haste makes waste is what he says. Haste makes waste. Who, when they can vindicate themselves, comes up with haste makes waste? You're trapped in a fire and you go, hey, should I call the fire department? Haste makes waste, everybody. Let's just keep this going. I mean, it is an absurd argument. And the special counsel, Jack Smith, responded today and said, haste makes
Starting point is 01:02:42 waste. What the hell is he talking about? Hear this. This is an important constitutional issue that you should listen to now. Now, Brett, to your point about Trump just doing opposite things in all these other courts, meanwhile, you have the E. Jean Carroll defamation case, which is set for trial in mid-January against Donald Trump. The next defamation case based on Trump's conduct and defamatory statements while he was in office and for purposes of punitive damages, the statements that Donald Trump has been making and that so-called CNN town hall and all these other appearances that Donald Trump's been doing where he defames E.G. and Carol over and over again. The same expert who testified in the Giuliani defamation case where Giuliani was hit
Starting point is 01:03:26 with $148 million defamation verdict is testifying against Donald Trump. And just like Giuliani's case was just about damages and punitive damages, so is Trump's in January with E.G. and Carroll, since a jury's already ruled against Trump in the other E.G. and Carroll case. So Trump's looking at getting hit with somewhere between a $20 million and $100 million, $150 million verdict. So one of the things that we talked about on the last episode, he's speaking about Donald Trump's lawyers, they never asserted absolute presidential immunity in the E. Jean Carroll case as an affirmative defense. That's something you basically check the box. As a lawyer, asserting an affirmative defense, you literally write,
Starting point is 01:04:11 Donald Trump hereby asserts as an affirmative defense, absolute presidential immunity. That's all it takes. And Alina Haba never asserted that for three years. So the Second Circuit Court of Appeals recently ruled because Donald Trump's trying to delay the E. Jean Carroll case. You wa he say it? Because he says he wants to go to the United States Supreme Court to assert absolute presidential immunity there. The exact thing that he is objecting to special counsel Jack Smith asking the United States Supreme Court to decide now, he's trying to use to the Second Circuit to tell them to pause so he can think about filing briefs before the United States Supreme Court. And get this, he cites special counsel Jack. He's like, there's no shame. There's no flaw to the
Starting point is 01:05:19 democracy. He's citing as authority, special counsel, Jack Smith saying that absolute presidential immunity is such an important issue. So Trump's saying to the second circuit, because they're the boss of the New York federal court, look, Jack Smith says this is important. So you should think it's important. Look at Jack Smith. He's going directly to the Supreme court. So we need you to stay it because look what the government says in that case. He's citing Jack Smith, he's going directly to the Supreme Court. So we need you to stay it because look what the government says in that case. He's citing Jack Smith as an authority for him to try to delay E. Jean Carroll. But the courts get it now, though. That's one of the things as we head into 2024, and I think this episode's a lot about momentum. One of the key things,
Starting point is 01:06:02 the lawyers, the prosecutors, but most importantly, the judges have figured Trump out and they are sick and tired of it. They know it's clownish and it's offensive to clowns, but they know it's clownish behavior before them. So, by the way, that's what Donald Trump's been doing there. And by the way, on the Giuliani front, Giuliani declared bankruptcy, which it's a non-dischargeable debt when it comes to intentional torts, malicious conduct like he engaged in. So he's not going to be able to discharge that he's just trying to delay that. But a lot is moving. A lot is, a lot is happening. And sorry, I was long winded by me, but I had to. No, but it's a lot. That was great. But Ben, the same way that the courts have figured Donald Trump out, you know, they're going to keep finding more out about the guy as well as we continue to go on. And it's like, at this point, I feel like they know enough. I feel like Jack
Starting point is 01:07:10 Smith has enough evidence, but we even see tonight this massive breaking story out of Michigan, which I think is important for us to discuss where Trump is caught on tape. Yes, there are more recordings pressuring Wayne County canvassers not to certify the 2020 vote. I'm going to read some of this report from the Detroit News because it just goes to show you that while we think we know everything right now, there is still so much that happened behind the scenes with Donald Trump and his efforts to overthrow the 2020 election that we have not even found out about until now. And I bet there's going to be a whole lot more that comes out as we get into 2024. So I'll read a little bit of this. Once again, this is new reporting from the Detroit news. It says then president Donald Trump personally pressured
Starting point is 01:08:03 two Republican members of the Wayne County board of Canvassers not to sign the certification of the 2020 presidential election. According to recordings reviewed by the Detroit News and revealed publicly for the first time. And get this, okay? On a November 17, 2020 phone call, which also involved Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel. Trump told Monica Palmer and William Hartman, the two GOP Wayne County canvassers, they'd look, quote, terrible if they signed the documents after they first voted in opposition and then later in the same meeting voted to approve certification of the county's election results. We've got to fight for our country, said Trump on the recordings made by a person who was
Starting point is 01:08:51 present for the call. We can't let these people take our country away from us. McDaniel, a Michigan native and the leader of the Republican Party nationally, said at another point in the call, if you can go home tonight, do not sign it. We will get you attorneys, to which Trump added, we'll take care of that. If this doesn't speak to Donald Trump's plan to overthrow the election in 2020, if this doesn't show his efforts to corruptly misuse and abuse our justice system by using his slush funds of donor money to pay off people, to pay off attorneys, to keep people in his inner circle the same way we've seen time and time again. And now the fact that we are seeing directly, directly that Ronna McDaniel was also very closely tied to all of these efforts.
Starting point is 01:09:50 If I were her right now, I would make sure that I am lawyered up as well, because this is absolutely damning stuff. The timestamp of the first recording, 9..m on november 17 2020 the time was consistent with verizon phone records obtained by a u.s house committee that showed palmer received calls from mcdaniel at 9 53 p.m and 10 04 p.m rana mcdaniel you are in deep, deep, deep trouble, deep trouble. You sold your soul for this guy. You literally got rid of your last name. Who gets rid of their last name for Donald Trump? Who gets rid of their last name for Donald Trump? She was Ronna Romney McDaniel, and she took away the name Romney from her name to bow down to her cult leader, to appease
Starting point is 01:10:46 her cult leader. She deserves everything she has coming her way. This is an absolute bombshell of a report here from the Detroit news. And I urge everybody to go and check this out. Isn't it amazing that we're still finding out nuggets like this, like just more and more information just leads me to think like, what else don't we know? And what else is going to continue to come out? I mean, wow. I can't wait to dig into this a bit more because Brett that you're right that this is a bombshell. as we talk about momentum and we talk about a year of justice and we talk about a year of where I think not only will the economy be rebounding, but heading in a very strong direction, which we're seeing already. It's one of those things where we've got to be grounded in our principles and let's just not let fascism psych us out. They know, they know, Trump knows, the MAGA criminal cartel knows that a lot of stuff's
Starting point is 01:11:54 going to be coming out. So what they're trying to do is they're trying to play the refs, they're trying to play the media, they're trying to get everybody very, very, very worried so that very kind of sudden and knee-jerk reactions are made, precipitous things are happening. But when you're dealing with someone like President Biden, who's very steady and calm, and in the face of international threats, in the face of domestic quagmires. He remains a very steady and stabilizing and balancing force. He's not falling for it. And again, that's something I appreciate about him. If he reacted the way Trump reacts to everything, I would not be supportive of him. I want someone who's like, okay, I got this. Okay, I got this.
Starting point is 01:12:47 One other thing I wanted to point out too was that special, and I mentioned this at the outset, special counsel Jack Smith kind of toying with Judge Eileen Cannon and with Donald Trump in the Southern District of Florida case. Everybody knows that Judge Eileen Cannon setting this May 20th, 2024 trial date is like not a real trial date, but that she's trying to keep this to try to prevent other trials from happening in that time period. So what does Jack Smith say? Okay, you want that May 20th, 2024 trial date? Let's get out jury questionnaires then. We have to start that process soon. So why don't we set it for February 2nd of 2024? And what did Donald Trump do immediately? He files an opposition to that right away and says, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not only does he say no, but he says we shouldn't
Starting point is 01:13:39 have any more filings taking place until March 1st, 2024, before the next status conference. And he asks Judge Cannon to admonish Jack Smith. And by the way, special counsel Jack Smith, again, people have figured out Donald Trump. Jack Smith knew that was going to be Donald Trump's reaction, but Jack Smith wants to go to the other courts, specifically the DC court and the DC circuit court of appeals and be like, look, that Florida date's not a real date. They're not sending out jury questionnaires. Judge Cannon's not sending classified information procedure act section five deadline. She's not setting those deadlines. So the May 20th date isn't happening at all. And then Jack Smith's going to put that Washington DC case right in there after the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals and maybe
Starting point is 01:14:25 even the Supreme Court hears about it. I want to leave with some good news right here. Then I want to tell everyone what's going to happen on our Patreon because I think this is one that you're not going to want to miss. United States' strongest economic recovery of all G7 nations, fastest growing GDP of all G7 nations. Wage gains, new business formation, job openings are all at historically high levels. Domestic oil and renewable production is breaking records. You know how MAGA Republicans are all, drill, baby, drill, drill, baby, drill. Well, there's two things. Number one, and I think very importantly, President Biden's been focused on dealing with climate change. And he's passed historic legislation within the Inflation
Starting point is 01:15:12 Reduction Act, within the Infrastructure Act that specifically deals with climate change, focusing on renewable energy. And at the same time, you have record-breaking domestic drilling as well. You can walk and chew gum at the same time. You can do both of those things, move towards an energy-independent economy while also drilling and making sure that when Russia and Saudi Arabia try to suppress the supply and increase the demand to try to interfere with our elections, which let's be clear, that's what they've been trying to do. They want to destabilize us with higher gas prices by decreasing the supply. That's the concerted move. Biden's countered that by increasing our domestic drilling to higher than them. And by the way, you better believe behind the scenes,
Starting point is 01:16:05 the US is basically saying, okay, keep doing that. See what we do. We're going to put you out of business with the oil if you keep doing that. And so, whereas Trump, because he's so coddling to the Saudi sovereign wealth fund and to Putin, would never be able to even do anything like that. That's partly what's behind this. So the GOP attacks on crime, higher crime, we're in the lowest crime right now on the economy. The economy is rebounding and booming on energy. These attacks against the Democrats are evaporating. Consumer sentiment is rising sharply. As I mentioned in Flash and Crime, rents and gas are all down. The Dow is breaking records. So there are good things to focus on.
Starting point is 01:16:51 And then be rooted in your principles. Bottom up, middle out. Focus on the workers. Focus on improving the lives of the 99% of Americans. Give everybody a fair shot. That is what President Biden is focused on, a fair shot. No one needs an unfair advantage, especially billionaires and deca-millionaires don't need unfair advantages. As President Biden says, I'm a capitalist. I'm good. You can make money,
Starting point is 01:17:18 but let's have a fair playing field and let's make sure all Americans have a fair shot. And that's one of the things that are fueling the economy. By the way, 40,000 infrastructure projects going up across the country. All right. On the after show at patreon.com slash Midas touch P A T R E O N.com slash Midas touch. We'll talk about our trip to the white house. What went down there? We'll show you some exclusive video footage as well. And one of the things I do want to say about Patreon at the end as we approach the new year, I think it's important if you'll just give me one minute to explain this before we go, because I think it's important. We're not funded by outside investors here at the Midas Touch
Starting point is 01:17:58 Network. We are funded by our pro-democracy sponsors. Check them out in the description below. We are funded by the emojis that you see and by Patreon, patreon.com slash Midas Touch, which is separate and different from the emojis. Maybe at the end of this year, early next year, we'll prepare an impact report where we talked earlier in the show about how it was through our reporting that pointing out the connections between Donald Trump's statements about poisoning the blood, those links with Adolf Hitler and that it's parodying Hitler, our reporting about violations of gag orders that led to real world consequences of contempt against Donald Trump. I mean, I could probably go through a list of about
Starting point is 01:18:40 a hundred plus stories that our editorial team has broken that have resulted in major impact in the world right now and in our country. And then there's everything I think they do is impactful, but like 100 bombshell stories, whereas some networks try to that one a year or two a year, probably 100 plus with Ron Filipkowski and that team there at MidasTouch.com. We want to grow that team in 2024. So if you're able to join Patreon, you get fun after show content and you get to meet us once a month on these Zoom chats. But most importantly, it helps this network grow and you see it. I don't have to, you see the tangible growth in the different tentacles as Midas continues to grow
Starting point is 01:19:35 as a result of the growth of this community. So no worries if you can't do it, but if you can, if you've been thinking about it, if you've been on the fence, I would say it's a, it's, it'll be very helpful heading into 2024. So I'll leave you at that Brett final word, Geordie final word, and then take us out. Jay. It's, it was been a great show. I'm excited to dig in and show the folks some exclusive video clips and some photos and stuff from our trip to the white house today. Next time, just, you know, give me a heads up if you're keeping the suits on. I think we'll leave it there. See everyone on Midas more.
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