The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump CAN’T HANDLE the Utter HUMILIATION

Episode Date: December 29, 2023

Welcome to the latest episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast! In this explosive edition, we dive deep into the recent controversy surrounding Nikki Haley's astonishing response to a voter's question about the cause of the Civil War. Refusing to acknowledge slavery as the root cause, Haley's comments sparked immediate uproar, leading her to backtrack and attempt damage control. We explore Haley's history of making similar statements and discuss President Biden's swift response to her controversial remarks. But that's not all! We cover the latest political developments, including Trump's disqualification in Maine, Chris Christie's response to critics, Lauren Boebert's surprising decision to abandon her district, and the GOP's new desperate attacks on President Biden. Plus, we examine Trump's unconventional Christmas message and the ongoing legal battles surrounding him, including a revealing update from Jack Smith and the Colorado GOP's petition to the Supreme Court. And of course, we have more updates on #TrumpSmells. Ben, Brett and Jordy break it all down! DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS: Trade Coffee: Trade is offering a free bag with select subscription plans when you visit https://drinktrade.com/meidas Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Moments before we went live, the Secretary of State for Maine issued a decision disqualifying Donald Trump from the 2024 ballot in the state of Maine. The Secretary of State said it was not a decision that she reached lightly, but by applying the law of the 14th Amendment, Section 3, it was the only decision that could be made. We will break down this monumental decision. Meanwhile, the Second Circuit Court of Appeals denied Donald Trump's attempt to stay the E. Jean Carroll case from going to trial next month. Trump is terrified getting hit with a Rudy Giuliani-sized judgment in the defamation case that starts mid-January.

We'll be covering that trial here on the Midas Touch Network. Also, Lauren Boebert has ditched her congressional district. She is leaving Colorado's third congressional district, which is a plus-nine Republican district, to run in Colorado's fourth, the seat which was previously held by Ken Buck, who specifically left Congress because the Republican Party has now turned into the party of Lauren Boebert's and Marjorie Taylor Greene's and MAGA weirdos who hate democracy. Midas Touch Network with President Biden in Pueblo, Colorado, a few weeks back where President Biden called out Lauren Boebert at a windmill factory in her own congressional district. In retrospect, how significant was that interview when it also seems to mark an important moment where we've been seeing President Biden's momentum begin. Because I remember all those reports right around that time period. We'll discuss. Also, disgusting. Donald Trump smells

badly. Trump smells continues to be a national trend. Videos put out on the topic by us here at Midas Touch have garnered millions of views with others sharing their own stories of Donald Trump's putrid odor over the past few decades. I spoke with former Republican Congress member Adam Kinzinger today since he sparked this important national discussion. Also, with good economic news, right-wing media, they don't know what to do. So they're back to talking about gas stoves and why the state of Utah and other right-wing states have more people Googling searches like, why am I gay, more than other states? We'll talk about all of this here on the Midas Touch podcast. I'm Ben Mycelis,

joined by Brett and Jordy. Some breaking news, big, important breaking news before we went live. How are you doing, brothers? Doing great. I always love when we get big breaking news before we go live. It's one of the benefits of us actually doing the show live live as we get to cover everything right up to the minute. And this news out of Maine is an absolute bombshell. Maine becoming the second state here, in addition to Colorado, to bar Trump from the ballot. We will get into that soon. It feels like these past 24 hours, Ben has been hurt himself with his Starbucks cup or something over there. I don't know what's going on. These past 24 hours have just been wild, a crazy news cycle.

And I know we probably say that every episode. But from the Boebert news to everything coming out about Trump to Trump and the E. Jean Carroll case to the Secretary of State of Maine to disqualification updates in other states. It is an action-packed episode coming your way. We are going to break it all down for you. Jordy, what's new with you tonight? How are you doing? So pumped for the show. I mean, just tons of news to get into, but I just wanted to quickly reflect here. We're at December 28th. The new year is getting right around the corner. I'm so grateful for this community. We are so close to 2 million YouTube subscribers. Let's go. The Midas Mighty is growing. So I just wanted to use this intro real quick just to remind people, because I know we do

it at the outro, subscribe to the Midas Touch YouTube channel right now. The goal is to hit 2 million by January 7th. Let's see if we could do it. And Jordy, on that note, I'm also going to say, while I got you, not to make two asks right out the gate, but add the Midas Touch podcast anywhere you get audio podcasts. Go to your podcast app, out the gate, but add the Midas Touch podcast anywhere you get audio podcasts. Go to your podcast app, whatever you use, whether it's Apple Podcasts or Spotify or Google or Overcast. I can name about a dozen others. Go add the Midas Touch podcast to your feed. It really helps. And you'll get episodes like this and Ben's hot takes delivered straight to your phone every single day. Speaking of which, I did a hot take right before we went live on this decision by the

Secretary of State of Maine. And before getting into that, though, doesn't it feel like the momentum is shifting? Doesn't it feel like a month ago or 45 days ago, it was all doom and gloom and the world is ending and MAGA can't be stopped? That's what the media prevailing narrative was. And what did we say here? That's just a media prevailing narrative that doesn't meet the facts. So what we have to do here is we have to speak loudly and proudly about the facts and the data. And if the legacy media and old school media are not covering these issues appropriately, guess what? You're going to lose your viewers and

listeners to us at the Midas Touch Network. So catch up. I want pro-democracy competition. And I've also noticed some shifting in the coverage. When I turn on some of these media networks right now, it seems that some of the segments look like some of the hot takes that we do here. That looks like the hot take that I just did, or that looks very similar to the way we talk about the issues here. Good. Bring it on. The more pro-democracy content, the better. But if you are stuck in your old ways of both sides of things and promoting fascism, we here at the Midas Touch Network are going to put you out of business because democracy is what matters here the most. Let's get into the order by the Secretary of State from Maine. The Secretary of State of Maine, Shauna Bellows, held a hearing December 15th on this issue. A lot of people weren't talking about that here. We've been

talking about the various hearings across the country. And so this is not a court decision, right? The Secretary of State of Maine says, I don't need a court decision yet. I'm the Secretary of State. The 14th Amendment, Section 3, is self-enforcing, and I am duty-bound to make the decision here if Donald Trump is qualified. That's their job. They can do what they want, but I'm presented with a task. And as she said on the last page in her conclusion, I do not reach this conclusion lightly. Democracy is sacred and the highest court of this state has repeatedly recognized that no right is more precious in a free country than that of having a voice in the election of those who make the laws under which, as good citizens, we must live. I am mindful that no Secretary of State has ever deprived a presidential candidate of ballot access based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. I am also mindful, however, that no presidential candidate has ever before engaged in insurrection. The oath I swore to uphold the Constitution

comes first above all, and my duty under Maine's election laws when presented with this challenge is to ensure that candidates who appear on the primary ballot are qualified for the office they seek. The events of January 6, 2021 were unprecedented and tragic. They were an attack not only upon the Capitol and government officials, but also an attack on the rule of law. The evidence here demonstrates that they occurred at the behest of and with the knowledge and support of the outgoing president. The U.S. Constitution does not tolerate an assault on the foundation of our government, and the challenged section requires me to act in response. She also goes on to say, however, that given the compressed timeframe, the novel constitutional

questions involved, the importance of this case, and impending ballot preparation deadlines, I will suspend the effect of my decision until the superior court rules on any appeal or the time to appeal under Maine's applicable law. So it's temporarily stayed, but she's saying the courts can do what the courts do. I'm the Secretary of State. Here's the decision that I have to make. She also says on page 23, in making their case that the events of January 6, 2021 constitute an insurrection, the challengers to Trump being on the ballot, who are called here the Rosen challengers, rely heavily on the proceedings

and evidence from the Anderson case. Much of that evidence is in the recorders, rely heavily on the proceedings in and evidence from the Anderson case. Much of that evidence is in the record here, and I find the reasoning of Colorado's Supreme Court to be compelling. That said, even without the benefit of the Anderson decision, that's the Colorado Supreme Court decision, the Secretary of State Maine says, I have little trouble concluding that the events of January 6, 2021 were an insurrection within the meaning of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. And she goes on to say that that section is self-enforcing and that as the Secretary of State, she has the authority and obligation to disqualify unqualified candidates and Trump is not qualified. So that will now go through the

court system. Meanwhile, in the Colorado disqualification case, you have the Republican Party there filing a petition for certiorari for the Supreme Court and requesting expedited briefing. Notably, Trump has not gone to the United States Supreme Court yet to appeal the Colorado Supreme Court decision as of this recording, which is interesting. You would think you'd want to move that along fairly quickly. So the petitioners, actually, the group crew, joined the Colorado Republican Party in the petition for certiorari for the United States Supreme Court and asked the United States Supreme Court to have Donald Trump to move this along because they think Donald Trump's going to try to delay and delay versus actually go to the United States Supreme Court. So that's

the update there. And you see different states handling it differently, whereas the Michigan Supreme Court wanted nothing to do with this. And on state law grounds said that it's not for the Michigan Supreme Court to determine who's a qualified candidate or unqualified candidate in the primaries. That's for the political parties to do. And they kind of punted the issue, which I think is a bit cowardly. And one of the dissenters or the only dissenter said, no, no, this is an issue that we should take up and rule on the merits, not boot based on some jurisdictional ground.

So that's where you're at, but a big ruling right before we went live. Yeah, it's been fascinating to see the way that the courts are handling this, that secretaries of states are handling this. It seems like anytime somebody is forced to actually look at the facts before them, mainly is Donald Trump an insurrectionist, was January 6th an insurrection, they come to the same conclusion. Yes, obviously, of course. And that seems to be the defining issue, the through line rather, throughout all of these cases, throughout all of these decisions. Thus far, it seems like any of the folks who have decided not to bar Donald Trump from the ballot have not done so on the basis of,

well, he's not an insurrectionist, so this doesn't apply. They've kind of weaseled out of it in other ways by saying, you know what, we're not going to take up this case, or perhaps he's not an officer. But I think it's interesting that the through line that we are building and what we are seeing court by court, secretary of state by secretary of state, we are seeing people speak up loud and clear. Yes, of course, Donald Trump is an insurrectionist. And then they are trying to determine whether, in fact, he violates this disqualification clause of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

And so I think we are in an interesting territory right now. And I think ultimately, you know, when the Supreme Court of the United States goes to rule on something like the Colorado decision, to me, the law is absolutely irrefutable. And it is no different than any of the other qualifications or rather disqualifications of running for office. You simply can't be an insurrectionist. It seems like a pretty low bar here, folks. But Donald Trump has, of course, went under this very low bar and continues to make things worse for himself every day as he praises the January 6th insurrectionists, as he talks positively about the events of January 6th, as the Republican Party turns the insurrectionists of that day into heroes. You see them taking photographs with the QAnon shaman, inviting him

to events as special guests. I mean, this is what the Republican Party has become. Yeah, no, this is why we don't refer to this modern day Republican Party as conservatives. When you have Marjorie Taylor Greene at Charlie Kirk's event, I feel like this is fascist mad libs hanging out with the QAnon shaman. I mean, it's utterly despicable. And you have, you know, legacy media going out there just reporting on this as if it's normal stuff. This is, we're not living in a normal time period. And it's a really frightening thing. Like democracy is truly at stake. And you have one side, the Democrats, the Democratic Party, that at least has adults in the room that want to push

policies that help people, help their lives, genuinely help children with, you know, free lunches at public schools that we've seen here in the great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and across the US. And then you see the Republican Party, and it's super scary that they just want to continue to take away rights, take away the rights of the LGBTQ community, take away the rights of women, take away the rights of anybody who doesn't fall into this weird MAGA fascist bubble. Look, it's shameful that the 14th Amendment, Section 3, even has to be used. It should not be a political issue for us to look at what happened on January 6th and say it's an insurrection and that Donald Trump should be disqualified and thrown out of any major

credible political party, period. The fact that we're forced to even look at the 14th Amendment, Section 3, is because the Republican Party has rallied around the January 6th insurrection as part of their official platform of embracing fascism. So therefore, they say, if you oppose the insurrection, you oppose us politically, and therefore you are politicizing things. And it's not that anyone's politicizing anything. If anything, it's the Republicans who are politicizing it by making it part of the political

platform. We should all look at that conduct and say, Donald Trump is disqualified. But because the Republicans are now full MAGA, they're a cult, they won't push Donald Trump out ever. And in fact, they get more and more extreme with even their other candidates and the entire party in the House of Representatives and MAGA Mike, they all support this day, so they're all in on it. Therefore, they say the use of the 14th Amendment Section 3 is politicizing the Constitution, and it's not. I just think what the Secretary of State did here was courageous. We'll wait for the Donald Trump post. He's going to post photos of her. He's going to threaten her life.

Now all of her family members are going to get death threats. That's what's going to happen. I don't even know if it's happened yet, but over the next few hours, that will happen. Trump will post photos of her. He's going to post photos of her children. He'll post photos of her house. He'll post other conspiracy theories about her. And now she will face death threats.

And that will be endorsed by the modern day Republican Party. It is shameful. But that's why when we talk to Adam Kinzinger and we speak to people who are actually conservative, as we'll talk a bit about later on the show, Kinzinger says we all need to be a part of this pro-democracy alliance right now. Ben, we may disagree, he says, on certain policies and issues. That's fine. We all need to come together under the pro-democracy banner when it comes to this 2024 election, and then make sure that fascism and MAGA does not prevail because then we will never have elections ever again. Let's talk a little bit

about some other updates in the court proceedings. You've got the Second Circuit Court of Appeals denying Donald Trump's request for a stay of the E. Jean Carroll proceeding. Donald Trump is arguing that because he's contemplating bringing a petition for certiorari before the United States Supreme Court on the issue of absolute presidential immunity, because this E. Jean Carroll case relates to statements Trump made while he was in office. In 2019, Donald Trump is arguing that it should be stayed while he contemplates whether or not he's going to be bringing the case to the United States Supreme Court, which is interesting because Donald Trump argued in the context of the criminal case in Washington, D.C.,

that the Supreme Court should not hear the petition for certiorari yet. So now it'll be interesting if Donald Trump tries to seek a petition for certiorari in the E. Jean Carroll case on an emergency basis when he just said that there was no emergency basis when special counsel Jack Smith tried to file that direct appeal with the United States Supreme Court. So Trump's kind of in a bind there on this issue of absolute presidential immunity, where he's making conflicting arguments in different court cases. In fact, before the Second Circuit, Donald Trump cited Special Counsel Jack Smith as authority for why the Second Circuit should stay the district court proceeding.

Because Donald Trump's like, if Jack Smith thought it was so important to go to the Supreme Court on the issue of absolute presidential immunity, Second Circuit, you should stay the district court's trial so I could think about it and I could consider it just the way Jack Smith wants it to be. So in that instance, he's not deranged Jack Smith, Ben. In that instance, he's scholarly Jack Smith with the correct order. I mean, just think about that. And at the same time, Donald Trump is going to the Supreme Court saying that Jack Smith is overplaying his hand and it should go through all of these levels. First, the district court of it to the DC circuit court of appeals before the Supreme Court. Trump's arguing to the second circuit court of appeals that Jack Smith makes some decent arguments about the importance on absolute presidential immunity. That's just, but ultimately the main theme here is what? Delay, delay, delay. That's all Donald

Trump wants to do is delay all of these proceedings. And that's why, by the way, when it comes to the Colorado Supreme Court's disqualification decision and Donald Trump filing a petition for certiorari there to the Supreme Court, Donald Trump hasn't filed anything yet. Why? He wants to wait until the last minute because every day for him is to try to just delay all of these cases. In his own mind, you push all of this back, you delay the inevitable, and that benefits him. In the past, that has benefited him. But in the past, he hasn't gone against special counsel Jack Smith or New York Attorney General Letitia James or Fulton County District Attorney Fawnie Willis. It's a different group of people. And that's also why

Donald Trump is just losing his mind and lashing out the way he is. And there's just been even a more rapid deterioration that we've been seeing at all hours of the day in a different way than it was bad before. How could it get worse? Well, it is getting worse. And also an interesting filing that Trump made before Judge Eileen Cannon. He continues to ask Cannon to basically do something that would finally allow Jack Smith to appeal one of her rulings. There's this thing called SEPA Section 4, which is a hearing that takes place in classified information cases that always take place just before the judge and the Department of Justice. The criminal defendant and the criminal defendant's lawyer under SEPA Section 4 can never be at these hearings because the judge has to rule if this national defense information is so top secret and sensitive and is not helpful to the criminal defendant such that it criminal defendant nor a criminal defendant's lawyers get to appear at these hearings. They never do, ever. It says so in the statute, and every court case ever on this has always ruled, no, defense counsel and defendants cannot be at this hearing. But Donald Trump argues, well, this is an extraordinary circumstance.

I want my lawyers to be there with Judge Eileen Cannon at this ex parte in-camera hearing, which is just a clear violation of the law. And as I said on my hot take, please, Judge Cannon, do Donald Trump a solid there. Just you could grant his relief there. Because as soon as she does that, then Special Counsel Jack Smith will file the appeal to the 11th Circuit. If she rules that way, it will be so egregious that could even potentially be an opportunity to remove her from the case if she engages in that behavior. But she would definitely be overruled if she goes and does what I think she's going to do. The same way back in 2022, she engaged in that extraordinary relief and accepted equitable jurisdiction, which no court did before. Donald Trump is basically asking her, hey, can you do that again in the context of SEPA, the Classified Information Procedures Act? And I'm just like, Judge Cannon, if you're watching

this, please do that. Listen to Trump because Jack Smith just waiting for that, waiting for that. But those are your court updates. Yeah. You get the sense that Judge Cannon and Donald Trump kind of have the same goal, but Trump doesn't quite have the tact that Judge Cannon is trying to use. And so, yeah, not very well, but she's held herself together just enough thus far. And then Donald Trump keeps trying to push her a little further, a little further, a little further, just ultimately leading to his own demise. And so by all means, Donald Trump, keep pressuring her in this way. Let's see what happens. But as far as a lot of people thinking, Donald Trump wants to delay all

these cases. And when are these cases all going to happen? Of course, there is a chance that these cases are delayed from their original dates, like the March date and whatnot. But I think Jack Smith seems pretty confident that the DC case is going to happen for sure in 2024. And if it is delayed, it will only be by a little bit. So I think Donald Trump could try to delay all he wants. This is not one of the civil cases that he is used to in the past where he was able to push these things farther and farther back. This is a completely new ballgame. There is, of course, an urgency to it.

And I think Donald Trump's attempts to delay this till after the election will ultimately fail. Look, what do I say that MAGA stands for? It's fascism plus idiocracy. It also stands for make attorneys get attorneys. But MAGA is fascism plus idiocracy. And fortunately, the idiocracy exceeds the fascism by multiples. These are not very competent people who are part of this MAGA team, the MAGA legal team, the MAGA movement. And then they also, to compound it, think they're smart. It's such a dangerous kind of combination that they're so unqualified, but yet they think they are the most qualified. And because they only live in

their echo chamber with people saying, how do you make it look so easy? How great are you? They don't realize that in the actual judicial system that we have, they are laughed out of court. There's a reason why Alina Haba in the Southern District of Florida was sanctioned nearly a million dollars. And then she brags about being sanctioned when she goes to these Trump-traveling fascist circus rallies. I was sanctioned for a million bucks. Look at me. I bet you didn't know that. That's the fake news right there.

I don't even know what the fake news – what are you talking about? Everybody knew you were sanctioned. Maybe not on the media networks you appear on, but she showed up on one today on Newsmax and you had Sebastian Gorka, this far right-wing guy, was filling in for another far right-wing guy, Greg Kelly. Let me just show you how this interview went. I don't even understand from a viewer's perspective how this is even an interesting thing to watch where a MAGA you watch all of these MAGA propaganda networks, just for one second, take a pause, look at who all the hosts are. You got Kimberly Guilfoyle. You got Sebastian Gorka. You have all of these people from Trump world who are either

extremely close allies to Donald Trump are literally Donald Trump's family members, or we're in the Trump administration. These are all the hosts on the network. It's so North Korea. It's so, it's so North Korea. And then they ask questions just like this. You make it look just so easy. You walk up to the insane lying press and you just, you know, you just have no podium, no teleprompter and you just crush them. You walk up to the insane lying press and you just, you know, you just have no podium, no teleprompter, and you just crush them. How do you make it look so easy, Alina? Patriotism. I think it's the same thing that you suffer from, right? We love our country. And I haven't had any training. PR is not my thing. I'm a lawyer, but I'm passionate about the president getting back

to business and cleaning up our country. And when you have passion for anything and you have the facts on your side, I think it's relatively easy to speak from the heart. No one's ever accused you of being qualified. No one's ever accused you of being good. Other than your right-wing echo chamber media, you are the worst lawyer maybe in the history of the United States because it combines, as I said, this like idiocracy meets this view that she's good. Like that's what makes it extra dangerous. Like Christina Bob, who's like really horrific. She also is just so bad, you almost kind of feel bad for her. And I think she kind of recognizes that she's really, really bad as well. But with Alina Haba, it's this confidence. Meanwhile, she's just the worst.

That confluence of factors is what is such a potently dangerous combination there. And you see her going on there and goes, there's no humility at all. It's just like, yeah, I am. It's called patriotism though. Ben, I think you're onto something with this MAGA confidence that they spew. When Habba was talking about having to pay the $1 million fine to the Trump crowd. Do you know how demented that actually is? Because she's bragging about having to pay this $1 million that that crowd likely donated to the fund that paid her to represent Donald Trump in the first place. These funds where Habba's getting this money from are coming directly from the MAGA grift, if you will. So she is truly just an unbelievable character here in

all of this. And you want to talk about Newsmax really quickly. The reason why you see James Comer moving away from Fox because Fox decides to ask him actually legitimate questions about his quote unquote investigation. And to Newsmax, it's because you get weird softball Q&As like that over there. What did you say? I said Newsmax is T-ball. Fox is giving them softballs. Like the questions that are being asked on Fox, I do see are still softball questions that anybody should be able to answer. Like,

okay, it's not like a complex issue. Can you cite me the specific statute line number? No, it's like, what is the crime you're investigating? Okay. That was the question that got Comer angry. What is the crime you're investigating? Frankly, anytime they are challenged even slightly, they view it as some sort of grand media conspiracy against them, like no matter what the subject is. Meanwhile, they are just subject, quite frankly, to the same kinds of questions that Democrats get on a daily basis. In fact, Democrats are probably held to a much higher standard day in and day out by the news media, And you don't see them

complaining in the same ways that the Republicans complain. And we'll see this, you know, how it looks in a microcosm of this with Nikki Haley's answer that she gave to somebody at a town hall, just a random person through her the most, I was going to say the most softball question, but going by our analogy, T-ball wasn't even easy enough for this question. It was the world's easiest question about what the cause of the civil war was. She refused to say the word slavery. And then she starts blaming that, oh, this is probably some democratic plant, or as she would say, Democrat plant. I was tricked. They were trying to trip me up. It's always excuse after excuse after excuse. Let me show you this other clip,

too, from that same interview with Sebastian Gorka and Alina Haba. And Sebastian Gorka goes, doesn't it seem like Jack Smith is running scad? And then Alina Haba is like, it does seem like he's running scared. Why would he be running scared? He ran to the Supreme Court so that they could hear Donald Trump's appeal, that Donald Trump is appealing the district court's denial on absolute presidential immunity grounds. Donald Trump was running scared. He asked the Supreme Court not to hear on a direct basis his own appeal. Donald Trump celebrates that the Supreme Court said, no, we're just going to wait to see what the DC Circuit Court of Appeals does, before we entertain a petition for certiorari after Alina Haba has been saying on all of these networks that they want the Supreme court to step in. So Jack Smith was like, okay,

you want the Supreme court to step in Alina? Is that what you want? Okay. Supreme court, this is an extraordinary issue. Can you step in? And then what is Alina and Donald Trump's team go? No, no, no, no, no. We don't want you to step in. Let's delay. Let's wait. Look at what the DC Circuit Court of Appeals is doing. Why, if you believe you had a slam dunk defense that you've been bragging about, and you know you could be vindicated by the Supreme Court where you've appointed three of the nine justices and the other three are very right wing as well. So you have a six to three court in your favor. If you believe that, why would you not go to them and say, hey, vindicate me now? No, no, no. I'd rather go to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. Who's running scared, Alina? And just watch this word salad

answer of hers. It is embarrassing as a lawyer to watch this even transpiring. Here, play this clip. Alina, it sounds to me as if Jack Smith is running scared. Yeah, this is called a due process violation. They do it in the form of a gag order. He should be scared. He doesn't want basically any defense

being brought by the defense. It's what happened with the last trial I tried. It's what will happen with the next one I try. These judges will gag you. They will try and use his popularity and his voice as a way to work against us and the American people so that people cannot hear the truth. That whole list is the defense. That's saying you cannot put your own defense on. That's like saying you can't have an expert on the Letitia James case or gagging his lawyers, which has happened to me. You can't. I was gagged in the courtroom. Imagine, Sebastian, in the courtroom, I could not put on a defense on the record for the appellate division.

I couldn't say things that needed to be said. That is what our country has come to. And Jack Smith is running scared because he has no case. Jack Smith is running scared. That's called a gag order. No, it's not called a gag order. It's called a motion in limine. Jack Smith can file motion in limine. You, Alina Haba, can file motion in limine. Then you can each file oppositions to each other. Guess what, Alina Haba? This happens in every single case. Every case, the defense and the prosecution files motions in limine. Then oppositions to each other's motions in limine, where they believe that there's information that is not relevant, like the fact that Trump wants to introduce things about the Fed, their claim that it was a Fed surrection and that the FBI caused the

insurrection and ghost buses and all of these things. Jack Smith's like, yeah, that's not relevant to what the criminal charges are. So exclude that as evidence. And you could oppose that. And you could oppose that. And you could say, no, that should come in and you'll file your own motions and lemonades, but that's not called a gag order. And then whining about the gag order. I was gagged in court. I couldn't put on a defense. I was gagged. They gagged me in court. So what? You couldn't attack the judge's principal law clerk. That's what you were gagged with. That you can't attack – who attacks the judge's law clerk in a case? That's not something that happens in normal society. You know, Ben prevented her from being able to put on her defense.

She couldn't defend her. I really wanted to attack Judge Goran's law principal law clerk. I didn't like the way she was looking at me and passing notes to the judge. What in the world are you talking about? And by the way, it's idiotic, but it's just, it's lame. I watch that and I'm like, oh my God, these are just the biggest group of whiny losers. And I do like how Adam Kinzinger is kind of leading the way to and showing, look, you do have to call these people out as losers and whiny and weak. They like when you call them authoritarian. They like when you call them a dictator.

They like when you talk about how they want to seize power. They want to be authoritarians, and they're a bunch of losers. That's as we talk a little bit later in the show about what this whole smelly Trump hashtag is about. By the way, lots of people coming forward saying that it is putrid. It has been known for a long time. But also, to his cult, who thinks that he's infallible, when you talk and you show that not only is he very fallible, but he is disgusting and putrid and weak and a loser and whiny. And when you point out what Alina Haba is doing there, that's called a gag order. No, that's a motion in limine, Alina Haba. That's filed in every case. And Jack Smith isn't running scared. He ran to the Supreme Court to hear your own client's appeal. And your own client said, don't hear my appeal, Supreme, fragile, just despicable person.

And the weakness and the loserness and the complaining, they just go around to all these networks and just whine. It's exactly what we teach our kids and grandkids not to be, is the way this MAGA movement be. I want to talk about all of that. We've got a lot more to discuss as well. I want to show that Nikki Haley clip as well, Brett. I want to also show the contrast between what is going on right now in the world as President Biden has this momentum. And then you see with all of this right wing media, what they're talking about right now. And it's some really weird and unhinged stuff.

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and I would not endorse just any sort of coffee product. I'm telling you that. All the links, by the way, to all of our sponsors are always, if you're looking for them, are always in the description below. Brother, should we talk about this Nikki Haley thing that's going on right now? How could we not, B? How could we not? Yeah. I mean, it's been an utter disastrous 24 hours for Nikki Haley. And it seems like the more that she tries to kind of correct herself, the worse things get for Nikki Haley. So here's what happened. She was in New Hampshire at a town hall and she was asked probably one of the most simple of questions. Now we're going to play the clip for you. It's a little hard to hear the person asking the questions, but his question

is just what was the cause of the civil war in your opinion? What do you think the cause was? Nikki Haley refused to say slavery, and it was even so much more uncomfortable than that. Listen to her response here. Please. What was the cause of the United States Civil War? Well, don't come with an easy question or anything. I mean, I think the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was going to run, the freedoms and what people could and couldn't do. What do you think the cause of the Civil War was? I'm sorry? I mean, I think it always comes down to the role of government.

We need to have capitalism. We need to have economic freedom. We need to make sure that we do all things so that individuals have the liberties so that they can have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to do or be anything they want to be without government getting in the year 2023, it's a strong team we need. Can you answer that question without mentioning the word slavery? What do you want me to say about slavery? No, you answered my question. Next question. And honestly, Brett, those are the types of questions that need to be asked to these GOP candidates. I know that a lot of the interviewers like to hear themselves speak, but sometimes you just got to give it like a basic question, answer, and then okay. And then

move. Because that's how they answer questions like that. Going back to the beginning, there was a softball. It wasn't even a softball. It was a tee ball. And she acted like right at the front of the question. She was like, oh, you're going to ask me a tough question. Aren't you going to ask me? And then I want you to note, just listen carefully when you listen to that clip and when you listen to these other clips, how Nikki Haley takes the words of the sort of iconography of the United States of America and turns them on their heads. And this is what the Republican party does about everything. In that clip, what did she speak about in her response? What did she say it was about? She said it was about the freedom. Freedom. But whose freedom was she speaking about? She was not speaking about freeing slaves. She was speaking about the freedom of Southerners to own slaves. That's how twisted

her logic was when she was speaking there. And you'll hear her use similar phrases like that in order to justify some of the most horrific acts in our nation's history. Now, President Biden was incredibly quick to respond. He responded to the clip by just simply saying on social media, it was about slavery. Clear, concise, the moral clarity that we should expect any leader to have on this issue. And the way Nikki Haley has responded to this question is perhaps even more revealing than her original answer. She keeps digging deeper and deeper and deeper. First, as I mentioned earlier, her first response after the fact was to call the questioner a quote, Democrat plant designed to trip her up. As Andrew Kaczynski

of CNN said, that would imply that asking what caused the Civil War is a trick question. It was not a trick question. It was a very basic question with a very simple answer, and Nikki Haley was afraid to answer the question. So Nikki Haley immediately bright and early this morning goes on cleanup duty. And this was her first call in to the cable networks to try to explain what she meant. Civil war was about slavery. We know that. That's the easy part of it. What I was saying was, what does it mean to us today? What it means to us today is about freedom. That's what that was all about. It was about individual freedom. It was about economic freedom. It was about individual rights.

Our goal is to make sure, no, we never go back to the stain of slavery, but what's the lesson in all of that? What individual freedom are you speaking about, Nikki Haley? Once again, the economic freedom to do what? And she goes, what's the lesson in all of that? That slavery is horrible. That slavery is bad. It's not some Rubik's cube here. That's the lesson. This isn't some trick. Jordi, sorry to go. No, I was going to say, forget it for a second, even the contents of what she was even saying. Just the fact of how she responded to the question is disqualifying from a pure leadership perspective. To your point, Brett, she gets asked the question, what does she do first? One complete silence. And then all of a sudden there's this weird, odd, deep sigh. And then she says, oh, you can't come

to me with an easy one from the start, I see. And then she does this weird trope that I've noticed these MAGA Republicans continue to do when they get asked a question that they're too cowardly to answer themselves, even if it's an obvious Q&A like this, where they put it back on the person asking the question, who's not running for office? Do you notice in that clip, she tries to put it back to them? Yeah, she asks the questioner the answer to his question. And the questioner goes, I'm not running for the presidency of the United States. Let's look at her. Let's look at her. Let's look at her second cleanup attempt. Round two didn't work. Nikki, uh, round one didn't work. Here's Nikki round two speaking in front of another group in New Hampshire. Yesterday I was at last night, I was asked about the civil war

and what I think of the Civil War, what was the cause of the Civil War. Of course the Civil War was about slavery. We know that. That's unquestioned, always the case. We know the Civil War was about slavery. But it was also more than that. It was about the freedoms of every individual. It was about the freedoms of every individual.

It was about the role of government. For 80 years, America had the decision and the moral question of whether slavery was a good thing and whether government, economically, culturally, any other reasons, had a role to play in that. By the grace of God, we did the right thing, and slavery is no more. But the lessons of what the bigger issue with the Civil War are, is that let's not forget what came out of that, which is government's role, individual liberties, freedom for every single person, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to do and be anything you want to be without anyone or government

getting in your way. That should be the goal of what we always try and take away from that, right? Because we never want to return back to that place. But we always want to remember the lesson of what it means to be a free individual and that everyone deserves to be a free individual. So we stand by that. I say that as a Southerner. I say that as a Southern governor who removed the Confederate flag off the statehouse grounds.

And I say that as a proud American of how far we have come. I'm going to be honest. I don't even know what her answer means. It sounds like she's sort of trying to play both sides of this issue and still say that while slavery was an issue, there was a bigger issue, individual freedom, the government telling you what you can and can't do. Yeah, they were trying to tell them that they can't own slave. I don't understand the both sides of this issue that Nikki is trying to say in her sort of word salad-y statements that she keeps making. But the fact is Nikki Haley, like she even said

there, she has done positive things on this issue. She did take down the Confederate flag from the statehouse. She should be touting things like that, but she is afraid of the MAGA base. A lot of people are acting shocked about this recent statement from Nikki Haley. And by the way, I bet Nikki Haley was quite confused by the reaction that she received from her statements. Why do I say that? Because Nikki Haley has been using that same exact answer for at least a decade, but she was never called out on it until she hit the national stage. Our researchers have found a clip from 2010 where Nikki Haley is speaking, and yes, what I'm about to say is accurate, in front of a neo-Confederate group in South Carolina. Because when you are running for South Carolina governor as a Republican,

you need to get the support of these neo-Confederate groups. And just like she did on the national stage when she was speaking in New Hampshire running for president, back in 2010, Nikki Haley gave the same answer and refused to say that slavery was a reason for the Civil War. Watch this from 2010. What's your belief about the reason the Civil War was fought? I mean, again, I think that as we look in government, as we watch government, you have different sides. And I think that you see passions on different sides. And I don't think anyone does anything out of hate. I think what they do is they do things out of tradition and out of beliefs of what they believe is right. I think you had one side of the Civil War that was fighting for tradition,

and I think you had another side of the Civil War that was fighting for change. You know, at the end of the day, what I think we need to remember is that, you know, everyone is supposed to have their rights. Everyone's supposed to be free. Everyone's supposed to have the same freedoms as anyone else. So, you know, I think it was tradition versus change is the way I see it. Tradition versus change on what? On individual rights and liberty of people.

She said that the Civil War was about the South fighting for tradition is is what she put it, as she put it, versus the Union fighting for change. Tradition versus change. That's how she phrased it in 2010 when speaking in front of one of these neo-Confederate groups, these neo-Confederate voters. So this has been in Nikki Haley's kind of political DNA now for at least a decade as far as we know, because she understands, I believe, that she needs to win over these voters to win in a place as a Republican to get past a primary in a place like South Carolina. Now, on the national stage, that is not the same. Now, the sick thing is, it's possible that this could even potentially help her in the Republican primary right now, where you have voters who

want to hear things like Nikki Haley said, although I bet they will be upset by her horrific backtracking, but they will be upset by the backtracking nonetheless. But you know, it goes to the point that Chris Christie has been trying to make over the past couple of weeks to critics like myself, who have quite frankly been saying, you know what, maybe we're getting to that point where we have to consolidate the race a little bit, try to give Trump a run for his money in these primaries. And you have Chris Christie going out there making a good point, making a good rebuttal to me and people saying things like me saying, hey, if I'm not in the race, then we're just left with Nikki Haley, who is a stooge for Donald Trump. And so Chris Christy put this new ad on the air in New Hampshire,

just a very simple concept, direct to camera, rebutting the critics. Here it is. Some people say I should drop out of this race. Really? I'm the only one saying Donald Trump is a liar. He pits Americans against each other. His Christmas message to anyone who disagrees with him? Rot in hell. He caused a riot on Capitol Hill. He'll burn America to the ground to help himself. Every Republican leader says that in private. I'm the only one saying it in public. What kind of president do we want? A liar or someone who's got the guts to tell the truth? New Hampshire, it's up to you. I'm Chris Christie, and you bet I approve this message.

And he makes a good point. I think that's a good way to put it. And Nikki Haley just continues to just handle this in the worst possible ways. I just saw before we logged on, CNN's Eva McKend was reporting tonight from another Nikki Haley rally, and she said the following, quote, Nikki Haley just got a brutal question from a voter who told her on, quote, moral clarity, she was coming up short. He said she, quote, had a chance to redeem herself after last night's slavery thing, end quote, if she would categorically reject if she would ever be Trump's running mate. She did not. And that's the thing when you get into places like New Hampshire,

when you get into more independent minded places where the Republicans are not all full MAGA, your pathway to actually defeat somebody like Donald Trump is not to be like Donald Trump, is not to be like MAGA. Your pathway to victory is to prove that you are somebody with principles who is willing to stand up to the Donald Trumps of the world. And that is exactly Chris Christie's point that he's making when he releases those videos and when he rebuts the critics. How about the broader point with those questions, those types of voters showing up at a Nikki Haley event, looking for moral clarity in condemning Donald Trump and what that even means for the general election and showing that America is not MAGA. The American people are smart by and large and understand the threat of MAGA, the fascism by MAGA, the idiocracy by MAGA. And they see the contrast between Donald Trump

saying things like, may they rot in hell. Merry Christmas. That was his Christmas Day message Donald Trump posted about his perceived political opponents. May they rot in hell. Merry Christmas. Then went on to post, Jack Smith should go to hell in another post. Just went on a posting rampage. The alternative, President Joe Biden, and President Joe Biden's been pushing back. I think he feels the momentum heading into 2024. And here's what Joe Biden posted right above a news article that says, Donald Trump says, may they rot in hell, Merry Christmas. Joe Biden responds on a tweet above saying, there's an expression they say in church sometimes, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. It's what Joe Biden said, an inherently decent and good human being. And by the way,

a devout religious person though, who understands the separation between church and state, he doesn't shove that in your face that he goes to church every week. He doesn't shove his beliefs in your face, but he continues to live a life with moral clarity. And that's what it's all about. And people living up to values, no matter what religion or no religion that you support and that you follow. So, Brett, there's a lot of momentum heading into 2024, I think, by President Biden.

And there was a great article recently by Simon Rosenberg, a friend of the Midas Touch Network, a contributor to MidasTouch.com. He put out an article, an op-ed, Biden's 2024 chances are much stronger than people realize. There's also the front page of the right-wing leading drudge report that talks about how underestimated President Biden is heading into 2024. And here's what Simon Rosenberg said, as we head into 2024, the conventional wisdom is that Democrats are on the back foot for next year's elections, but there are three reasons I'm optimistic that 2024 is going to be a good year for Democrats. First, President Joe Biden has kept his central promise in the 2020 election that he would lead

the nation to the other side of COVID successfully. The pandemic has receded. Our economic recovery has been better than any other G7 nation. GDP grew at an annual rate of 4.9% last quarter and more than 3% for the Biden presidency. We have the best job market since the 1960s and the lowest uninsured rate in U.S. history. The Dow Jones broke 37,000 this month for the first time. Wage growth, new business formation, and prime age labor participation rates are all at historically elevated levels. Prices fell. Yes, fell last month. Rents are softening and gas prices and crime rates are falling. Domestic oil and renewable production are at record levels. You know, the drill baby drill crowd, more drilling under President Biden while

making sure to make important strides in the right direction to climate reform and climate change reform. The annual deficit which exploded under Trump is trillions less today. Consumer sentiment has risen sharply in recent weeks, and measures of life, job, and income satisfaction are remarkably high. There is no doubt that recent years have been hard. COVID and insurrection at the Capitol, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, repeated OPEC price hikes, global and domestic inflation. But it is increasingly clear that America is getting to the other side of this challenging period and are in a far better place than when President Biden took office. Second, the strength of the president's record is only matched by the strength of his party.

I don't think it is widely understood how strong the Democratic Party is right now. The party has won more votes in seven of the past eight presidential elections, something no party has ever done in modern American history. Over the last four presidential elections, Democrats have averaged 51% of the popular vote, their best showing over four national elections since the 1930s. And then he goes on to tout the Democrats' wins in recent elections and how Trump and Republicans have only pushed voters away with their attack on women's rights and other policies. And of course, the New York Times headline and others will be why this is bad for the democratic party. I don't want to get complacent here at all, but I do want to acknowledge that the data is what Simon Rosenberg

says it is. And if the data was the opposite direction, not contrived media-driven narratives and feelings that have a cycle of doom that they create. Here's the difference maker right now, though, as we head into 2024. It is you. It's you watching this. It's this community that you created. What we are showing here at the Midas Touch Network and this community is that this doom and gloom, both sides kind of horse race coverage that the media believes will get them ratings actually doesn't. People are leaving them because you and others look at that and go, this is horrible. You hate watch it for a few minutes and go, I hate this. Then you turn it off usually and put on a Midas Touch video because you know we'll be data-driven. As I've said at the outset of the show, I welcome pro-democracy competition. If the media doesn't want to compete with pro-democracy messaging, then I look forward to putting them out of business. I think they are recognizing

this as well. I think that's important to point out. Look what right-wing media is covering, Brett. I think that's important to look at as well. If you compare what I just read to you, what is it that right-wing media has to do to kind of scare its base? Take a look at what Fox was saying today, complaining about, you guessed it, gas stoves. Play it. I mean, I've made fun a little bit of the vice president saying that now she's went from being the borders are to being in charge of posting gas stove selfies. But on a serious note, folks like myself who own a gas stove are concerned that the administration really does intend to do things like try to get rid of them. Well, and you should be. You know, I own a gas stove, too. I don't care if you're on natural gas or like me on propane gas or whether you're on pull my finger gas.

You know, the administration and the federal government should have no impact or input on what on pull my finger gas. The administration and the federal government should have no impact or input on what you have for a stove. Okay. So Fox running with a fake story that they created that president Biden and Democrats are trying to take away gas stoves. President Biden and Democrats are not trying to take away gas stoves. Period. No, but. Period. It's false. It's made up. There's nothing true about that at all. Some consumer agency said, you know what? Gas stoves aren't the safest thing out there because that's data-driven and that's a fact. No one said we're taking away your gas stoves, but Fox is out there attacking Vice President Harris and her husband for taking a photo over the holidays by a gas

stove. That is what they are talking about for an entire segment on Fox. that is where we all have to look at that and go, who does that? Who does that? And it is okay to say, that's just loser behavior. That's weird. I'm okay saying that. Yes, it's dangerous, but it's also like, that's just some weirdo sociopath. Ben, I want to say this too, because if you somehow stumbled upon this, I don't know how, YouTube recommendation algorithm is something. You're a right wing. You're a Trump person, right? You're a Fox viewer.

Don't you ever get upset that you are being lied to over and over and over and over again? At what point do you stop watching and go, you know what? They think I'm an idiot. They think I am a fool. If I watch that segment with Sebastian Gorka and Alina Haba telling me, oh, look out, how are you so great, Alina Haba? Oh, Jack Smith is running scared. And then I turn on to Fox and I see they're coming for your gas stoves. At a certain point, I'd be like, why are you lying to me? Like, why are you lying to me? Can't you just give me the facts? Like I could handle it. And the fact is there are a lot of people who watch the Midas Touch network on YouTube, who listen to the Midas Touch podcast

on audio, who visit MidasTouch.com to read articles, who are actually real conservatives. And we lift up a lot of real conservative voices, not this MAGA crap, but we've been lifelong Democrats for the most part because we have felt that that is the party that represents democracy. But that does not mean that we are not able to highlight these pro-democracy voices from all ends. For example, here's a comment that I saw online from a conservative voter that was going viral just yesterday. I'll read it for you. Used to be GOP. This person says, I'm a conservative, but one, slavery was the main cause of the Civil War. Two, January 6th was an insurrection led by Donald Trump. Three, Trump gave a wink not approval for his VP to be hung

for not breaking the law for him. Four, grown functioning adult men do not speak or behave the way Donald Trump does. How freaking hard is that, people, said this social media user. And that's the thing. Those ideals and the things that we speak about on this show are not left and right issues. They are just American issues. They are pro-democracy issues. But they are issues that the networks that lie to you like Fox and Newsmax and OAN want to turn into left and right issues. They want to turn basic decency into left and right issues. They want to turn basic matters of the rule of law into these left or right issues when that is simply not the case. You see hope out there, though, when you actually see the voters

interviewed, right? When you see the people behind a lot of these numbers. And for example, here was a Pennsylvania voter, independent voter, Erie, Pennsylvania, who gave her opinion on if she would ever vote for Donald Trump. Independent voter, Erie, Pennsylvania. Listen to what she had to say. I just cannot vote for Trump. And I think he's probably, all indications are he's going to be the Republican nominee. And I just think that he will take this country in a very bad direction. She said that he will take this country in a very bad direction. She's an independent voter from Erie, PA.

If you don't know Erie, PA, that's Northern PA. So in the last few election cycles, it's lean Democratic, but it is and has been primarily reddish for its period of time, but it's getting more purple. And so when you see someone like that woman out there who's saying, I cannot vote for Donald Trump because what he would do to this country. That's the sentiment, Ben, that I like that you had said before, that America is not MAGA. America is actually that independent woman right there who sees the danger in front of us if Donald Trump were to be reelected and isn't scared to go on whichever news network and speak out about that, especially being from Erie, PA. That is awesome right there.

Well, let's go back to what Fox is talking about. Fox, this other segment, was apparently speaking about the search results by the country of what states in the country were searching LGBTQ terms? And how do you even say this? They did a whole segment on which states search, am I gay, more than other states? And this is a segment that Fox put on the air. Here, play this. Let's have a look at those searches. Reveals that Utah led in the nation in searches for.

Am I gay? Am I a lesbian? And am I trans? The market research firm behind the numbers pointed to the state's traditionally conservative social values as a potentially significant factor. These findings published last week by the Cultural Currents Institute. And Tammy, you had an interesting take on this. Yeah, well, that's classic spin, right? I mean, they're looking at Utah or the issue of that. It's about social conservative values. The fact is, is that you've got people who are hearing these terms and they may be curious. You don't know why someone is typing that in. Maybe their kids said it to them and they want to learn more about that. Okay. It's quite the spin. It's just so – you've got an interesting take on this.

Let's all sit around this phony couch and start to just spew ridiculous statements all morning. Let's try to distract Americans and let's scare American parents in red states that somehow it's some democratic agenda is the reason why your kids are searching, am I gay? Let's talk about this this morning. One of the things I talk about too is these Republican groups are just – they wake up. They think about genitals. They think about sex every day. That's all they want to talk about. Whenever there's a scandal, the thing that they care most about is the sex aspect of it. When it comes to Hunter, they always want to show you all of the-

Bro, they got Hunter's nudes saved in their favorites, ready to go. At the hearings, when they called the Twitter executives, like, why did you take that down? And the Twitter executive would be like, because it's the Twitter executives, like, why did you take that down? And the Twitter executive would be like, because it's a naked photo that you are trying to post. We don't want naked photos, non-consensual nudes of anybody on our platform. And that is what the MAGA Republicans talk about each and every day. And we just got to call them out on it, which is like, just get away. This is not the role of government. Just get away from us. And then you start learning like, oh, the Moms of Liberty co-founder in Florida who sits on the Sarasota school board is involved in all of these threesome trysts. And one of the women in the threesomes is accusing her husband of sexual abuse. We now heard about an arrest in Pennsylvania from one of these other, quote, parental rights,

right-wing groups of the mom who was arrested for giving the kids underage alcohol and throwing these depraved parties at her home. It's all these people who are so utterly hypocritical, who want to get in the right wing, who want to get into our bedrooms and into your doctor's offices because they have great books your kids can read or can't read. They're absolutely deranged human beings. I want to go back really quickly before we move on. And I want to talk about why they specifically also attacked, yeah, it's a smelly talk about why they specifically also attacked. Yeah, to smell each other. Why they attacked the VP and her husband, right? It's also what we talk about, like the MAGAverse and especially MAGA commentators, they can't understand like

basic familial values of like loving, you know, thy neighbor, loving a husband, loving a wife. It can't get through to them. So what do they do when you see the picture of the VP and her husband? They have to find something, some quote unquote flaw in their perception of what that photo is and then attack it for a non-issue to just, I don't know, stoke hatred and just to rally up their base. Because quite frankly, after reviewing both of those segments from Fox News, they don't have anything to run on. The Republican Party does not have anything to run on other than taking your rights away. So they have to manufacture these issues day in and day out. And quite frankly, again, if you're watching Fox

News on a daily basis, you have to be exhausted by the lies that they spew at you. And then, Jordy, you've got Marjorie Taylor Greene who rubs the cardboard genitals of a Donald Trump cardboard cutout. How depraved can you be? You've got Lauren Boebert who shows up to a play at a public theater in Denver and has to engage in public sex acts while blowing vape smoke on people's faces. When I say these things, it's like, what are we even talking about? This is a very conservative thing. I show up to the Beetlejuice show. I say Beetlejuice three times. I blow vape smoke on people's faces. I rub the genitals of the guy. It's like, what are you doing? Like this, this is not normal. And it is important that we take the step back and say, this behavior is not a both sides issue at the leadership level,

which is important. The leadership level, the members of Congress, the members of the school board, the leader of the Republican party, Donald Trump, their Speaker of the House in Maga Mike, the behavior at their leadership level is either extremist, depraved, kind of strange, and the contempt they show for their own people. When you got to see what were the Fox people talking about their audience, it's what they would accuse Democrats to talk about their own viewers. And we don't. We don't spend the time going, these Fox viewers. The way Tucker and Hannity and Ingram talked about their viewers were like their viewers were scum, like when you read these text messages. And that's how they treat their

viewers. And then you have Boba leaving the third congressional district in Colorado, which is a plus nine Republican. She's running against Adam Frisch to instead run in the primary now in Colorado's fourth that Ken Buck is leaving. She's going to have a tough primary. I'm not sure she's going to win. If you're a Colorado voter and you say to yourself, wow, Lauren Boebert never gave a crap about the people of Colorado's third, doesn't give a crap about the people of Colorado's fourth, doesn't give a crap about the state of Colorado. And as I reflect on Lauren Boebert ditching the third congressional district, Brett, I recall that interview that we did at the Midas Touch Network with President Biden a few weeks back in Pueblo, Colorado, where President Biden called out Lauren Boebert at a windmill factory in her congressional district. think about that timing. You remember that. That was when doom and gloom about Biden was at its peak. President Biden was steady and calm. He shows up into that factory in Pueblo, Colorado,

and he speaks out against Lauren Boebert. He speaks out against her conduct. Just for those who want just a reminder of the interview we did with President Biden before contrasting that with the smelly Trump stuff. Let me show you the interview we did with President Biden just a few weeks back. He went into her district. He talked about the jobs that the Infrastructure Act and the Inflation Reduction Act were bringing to that community. And three weeks later, four weeks later, what does Lauren Boebert do? Ditches the congressional district. Cause and effect. Play this clip. The MAGA Republican representative, though, of Pueblo, Colorado is MAGA Republican Lauren

Boebert. And she gives the alternative position there on the Inflation Reduction Act. And she says that the Inflation Reduction Act is And she says that the Inflation Reduction Act is a massive failure. And she said that it is another con by the Democrats. If I can, I want to show you a video of MAGA Republican Lauren Boebert talking. I apologize in advance for even showing this to you. And it does the exact opposite of what Americans need right now. This is just another con game by the Democrats calling something one thing and saying another. This is making the IRS, which aren't agents, larger than the Pentagon, the State Department.

The gentlewoman is no longer recognized. The gentleman from Missouri reserves the ballot. Mr. Speaker. How much time do you need? The gentlewoman is no longer recognized. I'm sorry. No, that's okay. If it weren't so important to be humorous,

unless you call it a massive failure, the only massive failure occurs in their thinking. The idea that in their own district, we've created so many new good-paying jobs. And by the way, it's generating economic growth across the board. Across the board. And when people way, it's generating economic growth across the board, across the board. And when people get a good job, what they do is they have an opportunity to spend on things that their basic needs for themselves. And by the way, we cut the deficit by $7 billion.

The idea that she's talking about this being a mass failure i don't get it i i i don't know whether they just don't understand anything or whether or not they in fact uh i hope she comes back here and tells the people in this factory the largest wind turbine factory in the world that this is a massive family it's our district i invite her to come back. Come back and tell the folks back home, this is a massive failure. Tell the folks back home that all that we've done to generate economic growth is not worth it. And I'd like to ask her to explain how she supports not taxing billionaires more than 8%. I have trouble explaining it. But then again, I probably shouldn't waste my time trying to.

Don't waste your time trying to, President Biden. Lauren Boebert has fled the third congressional district. I'm going to say, Ben- Not only is she not going to be invited back, she fled. I'm going to say this because the media is too afraid to say this. So I'm going to say, Ben made Boebert flee. Just going to say, cause and effect. Ben goes into Pueblo, Colorado. President Biden wore the suit. A few weeks later, Lauren Boebert is out. She's just gone. And by the way, the new district that she is running in is like over 200 miles away from where she lives, which is apparently allowed in the state. She's allowed

to do that. She has no connection to the new district that she is running in. She was getting crushed in fundraising by Adam Frisch, who was one of the biggest fundraisers of any candidate out there. And Adam Frisch only lost by 546 votes. And she was also facing a two front battle against a Republican attorney, Jeff Hurd in the primary in Colorado's third. So she got scared. She got cold feet. She fled. Tom Bond here paid like the best point. Boebert lives about as far from the district in which she plans to run as New York city is to Boston, just to give it some perspective. It is absolutely nuts. But anyway, let's talk about the important stuff, guys. And that's- Well, here's the thing. As you start to talk about Trump smells, I think it's important to

let our audience know that we can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can do very deep legal analysis. We can do complex economic analysis. But I think it is also important to point out that one of the weaknesses that wannabe authoritarians have is to point out their weaknesses. And that is historically true. And so when you see something that can kind of poke holes in the armor of a cult hoisting someone to a level of infallibility and not just bring someone down to earth, but to treat them the same way that they try to humiliate others and to let them know what it someone like Trump who wants to destroy our democracy and who is so vile and mean to others. The fact that we have a big platform to speak up to that bully and let that bully know that the world knows what a stinky and putrid human being that that bully is, is something that we take very seriously here. Well, here's one of the wild things, Ben. You could call Trump a lot of things, right? You could call him a dictator. You could say that he quotes Hitler. You could

say every horrific and true thing about him. He likes that. He thrives in that. He actually enjoys it. He himself posts the word map that shows that revenge and dictatorship are the top two words describing another Trump term. What does he not like? What can he not stand? He cannot stand being humiliated the same way that other despots have been not being able to stand the satire and being humiliated. And so somebody who was very good at getting under his skin apparently was Adam Kinzinger. And Adam Kinzinger, the former Republican congressman, he was on an interview today with Ben, by the way, which you could hear on the Midas Touch podcast audio feed. Remember to add the show anywhere you get audio podcasts.

And also right here on the Midas Touch YouTube channel, we have a playlist on our page called Midas Interviews. You could see it right there. And Adam Kinzinger started this all off or brought it to a wider spread attention when he said the following. He said, I'm genuinely surprised how people close to Trump haven't talked about the odor.

It's truly something to behold. Wear a mask if you can. And then the most Trumpian thing imaginable, you would think anybody else would just let this quietly go away, but no, Donald Trump's team felt the need to respond. Donald Trump's team, a spokesperson, an unnamed spokesperson said, Adam Kinzinger farted on live TV and is an unemployed fraud, told The Independent. He has disgraced his country and disrespects everyone around him because he is a sad individual who is mad about how miserable his life has turned out. Sounds like the ultimate projection in that statement. Adam Kinzinger, that never happened. And also they notably did not deny the claims of Donald Trump's odor.

You had Kathy Griffin making similar claims a few weeks ago on Mary Trump's podcast about Donald Trump's stench. And it seems like every single day, this keeps getting worse and worse and worse for Donald Trump as more people, more fact gets stinkier, causes a stink, causes a bit of a mess. Every single day you have people coming out of the woodwork saying that they've been around Donald Trump and that it's true that he actually does have this horrific odor, which really scares people away, makes people want to like cringe when they're near him, causes people to flee. And this is a thing that's apparently been going on for a very, very long time. You know, we made a video here at Midas Touch, a little comedic video with a sound showing the reaction that folks have when they are around Donald Trump, the visceral reaction on their face. So this is going to work better for the people watching on video right now, but we'll

play this quick clip that we put together. What's that smell? I don't know. Hey, guys, look. What is that? It is some kind of odor. It is foul. It's a foul odor. It's a foul odor. A foul odor. A foul odor. A foul odor.

So today we're here in a bipartisan fashion to show leadership. Okay, this is the part where I'm going to totally lose. I was able to do the video. I was able to do the video on YouTube. It's got over a million views already. And I pretty much got through about the eight-minute mark before uncontrollably laughing when I was reading all of the comments. Brett, let's try to have you. Yeah, no, I'm good.

I'm good. I'm good. So in the video, you saw the Pope, you saw Melania Trump and numerous others reacting to being near Donald Trump. But Ben had a chance to interview Adam Kinzinger. You guys spoke about a lot of various, very important topics. It was a 20-minute interview.

We covered a lot of various, you know, very important topics. It was a 20 minute interview. We covered a lot of important topics, but then I couldn't resist asking Kinzinger. The specifics. The specifics. And so here's the portion of my interview with Adam Kinzinger where I asked him, I said, you've been around him. What does it smell like? I'm genuinely surprised how people close to Trump haven't talked about the odor. It's truly something to behold. Wear a mask if you can. Then Donald Trump responded to that, and he had his team go after you and say, no, Kinzinger is the one who's smelly. And as Hillary Clinton said, if you could be baited by a tweet, how are you supposed

to be expected to handle Vladimir Putin and other authoritarians? And Donald Trump clearly got baited by your tweet and your post. But let's just start with your post. The odor, the stench, the stink. How bad is it? What do you know about that? Yeah, I mean, it's not good. I mean, think about not good. I mean,

think about the best way to describe it. I've tried to like, so take like armpits, ketchup, like a butt and kind of put it in a blender and makeup and put that all in a blender. And that's, and you bottle that as a cologne. That's kind of that. but it's amazing like i've been amazed that you know everybody's just kind of like learning about this now but again i think the bigger point is he's a weak human being but look at this he had he had his people respond to me on this by the way they're always unnamed spokesmen because none of them want to put their names, even though I think I know who's doing this, like they don't want to put their names behind that because they know that their words are going to live forever. And like, my goodness, I mean, Vladimir Putin, I'm going to tell you, she president, she of China, they're licking their chops at the idea of another Donald Trump term. Because I sat in the Oval Office once when Donald Trump begged a group of us to pull China's ZTE out of the sanctions list from the National Defense Authorization Act because

he made a personal promise to President Xi because Xi asked him nicely on the phone. I mean, this is the kind of leader of you know, of the greatest country in the world that we're looking at reinstating. And the odor is the odor. And, you know, I think that needs to stay alive. People need to keep talking about it because he's the kind of guy that would use something like that all the time against other people. He needs a taste of his own medicine.

So then later in the day, I had the opportunity on political beatdown to ask Michael Cohen, who was, of course, pretty close to Donald Trump. I wanted lots of data points. Kinzinger was near Trump, and then I needed some more data points. I got to go to the source here. Any good lawyer, I need to go to the source. Then I got another character witness, another fact witness, if you will, in Michael Cohen. And Michael Cohen had a very interesting analysis where I showed Cohen a portion of Donald Trump's speech that he currently does. And Cohen had a great thought about it. Here, play this clip. Magic. It's bad news. Bad things are happening. I'm sorry.

It was staring us in the face the whole time, Michael Cohen. You understand what he's doing? Donald Von Schitzenpence. That's what he was doing. He was trying to figure out a way how he can sort of squeeze that sucker out. Right? It's like, you know, when you see your baby when they're constipated. That's what Donald's doing.

Can we play that again? And I'll show you the exact moment he lets it go. Magic. It's bad news. Bad things are happening. Mom, I'm sorry. Right there. Right there.

Right there. Right there. That there. Right there. Right there. Right there. That was the moment. Right at that specific moment. By the way, Donald Trump does that at all of his speeches. He does this. Could you imagine Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden.

You want to go back to George H.W. Bush? George W. Bush. Could you imagine Ronald Reagan? Ladies and gentlemen, like a Ronald Reagan speech? Mr. Gorbachev. Hey, Mr. Gorbachev. I mean this is – but here's the – but the broader point that Kinzinger connected it to, though, is that this is a national disgrace. Like this behavior. It is embarrassing for our country.

And like the fact that people support this, this, this smelly, stinky loser is like, who behaves that way? Donald Trump is a one-of-one stinky ass loser. Ben, let's just go like, you know, we could go through some other data points too. And by the way, it's a good time to also- For the audio listeners only, one, you got to subscribe to the YouTube. Brett is literally in tears throughout this entire segment. He's tearing up. Let's play. I'm holding it together. Wait, wait, wait. Can you hear me? You can hear me, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay. So Political Beatdown, by the way, is the show you want to go if you want to hear Ben and Michael Cohen twice a week break down all the news. You get some great insight too with Michael Cohen and all the cases. Make sure to add Political Beatdown podcast wherever you get your podcast if you're not listening. I do want to play though, show one of some of these comments that we've received though,

which seemed to confirm what Adam Kinzinger was saying. And let's see, I'll go. There was somebody who was a doubter. We had shown a clip of somebody else who said that in the 80s, Donald Trump was kicked out of a steakhouse called Keene's Steakhouse in Manhattan because he smelled and two people complained. This was a story that is going viral on TikTok. Do we have the TikTok? I'm okay. We're all having fun in the chat right now. Do we have that TikTok?

All right. Yeah. If you don't like this content, you could – you got a good first half. If you're not enjoying slightly slightly og might as touch brothers podcast you're not enjoying this content i respect it you could watch the other one hour and 25 minutes of the show the rest the rest is for you this is for rest what's for you this is for this select group of people who enjoy this type of stuff all right so so okay so let's play the TikTok that's going viral. So you know when you post something and then someone bigger than you,

like Adam Kinzinger, confirm it? And years ago I posted about Trump being kicked out of Keene's Steakhouse in Manhattan where I was eating with my father in 1983 because his smell was so offensive. This wasn't an elderly thing. It was 1983. I wouldn't make fun of Trump today This wasn't an elderly thing. It was 1983. I wouldn't make fun of Trump today if it was an elderly thing.

That's not what we do on the left. It happens to elderly people. Trump wasn't elderly. We didn't complain. The table next to him complained, and the table behind him complained. We smelled it, but my father and I didn't complain about it.

Trump was not elderly. The smell was so fucking offensive that they finally had to ask him to leave and he did leave quietly right by us and it wafted us trump's been shitting all over himself for almost 40 fucking fucking he walked there were a lot of responses to that video and you know you had a lot of people directly been and Ben is wafting it on the video right now but you know we had a doubter on when we posted that on X who said the following. He said, come on, this guy has never been anywhere close to Trump.

And then two people responded to that person with similar stories. Somebody said, neither have I, but I have a friend who went to military school with him. He had an incontinence problem. Another person said, all I can tell you, my dad has more than once. He also worked in Manhattan in the 80s, can confirm. And we just kept receiving comments like this on our various posts about it from folks. This individual said, I grew up near Atlantic City and personally witnessed the diaper wearing as well as the African-American dealers having to go on break

at the same time when he would come down on the casino floor. You had somebody explaining the smell that they encountered of Donald Trump. They said, this is from Instagram, I really had the thought back then that he just saw himself as so rich that he did not give any care of his smell. I think he showers, but gas and not caring to wipe his bum was an issue. We saw him later in the evening surrounded by people. He was pulling girls into hugs and you could see they were pulling away, but he kept forcing them back. So my friends and I left maybe two hours into the event. And I could go through, we have a lot of comments about this

that I could continue to go through of people acknowledging the odor apparently of Donald Trump. And, uh, you know, so I, I think, you know, we've got a lot of fact witnesses is all I'm saying, uh, then, and maybe instead of stop the steal, Donald Trump should have been rolling with stop the stench or stop the stink or, or, or something along those lines. And this again, to the larger point is this is their leader. This is the MAGA cult leader who loves when people call him a dictator, who loves when people call him a fascist, who puts onto the board in big, bold letters when they think of Trump, it says revenge, dictatorship. He uses that as a badge of honor.

There ain't no using stanky Trump as a badge of honor. And when you have this many character witnesses coming out and just speaking out against this guy and it just is putrid smell. I mean, good luck. the clip, the montage that we showed, but could we watch just the clip on its own of Trump farting next to the great, late Dianne Feinstein? And he rips three of them. There's one in the beginning. And not only that, but he moves

his body to push it towards her. We didn't add sound to this video. No, no, no. No, we did not. And he does it in the beginning, and then you hear two squeakers at the end. Two squeakers?

And it interrupts his sentence, and he has to try to catch it. His own sentence. Here's the clip. So today we're here in a bipartisan fashion to show leadership in an effort to end this senseless violence. And violence, it can be ended. You heard the other two at the end?

What about in front of Turkish leader Erdogan? What about that moment? Might as well. Let's just keep doing it. Let's just keep doing it. Okay. The evidence is pretty clear, right? I mean, we have a lot of evidence. We don't have anything else. I don't know about you, but we have nothing else to do for the rest of the day.

So it's never been yet. I have nowhere else to go. I mean, it's just spending time with the mind. Should we keep doing this for hours? near nuclear weapons. And to Kinzinger's point, if he's getting so emotional and can't control himself when it comes to this, think about when he's in a room with President Xi or the Taliban and they go, sir. And he goes, did they call me, sir? What do you want me to do, Taliban? Release 5,000 of you. Okay, I'll release 5,000 Taliban. They called, they called me, sir. And he says that at his speeches, they said, sir, sir, you know, and, and, and it's also, as I said before, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. There's nothing more that I enjoy than the very serious, sober legal analysis that we do here, or we have the top legal experts.

I love our analysis of the economy. I love our analysis of the political environment right now. And we go into depth. That doesn't mean that we should be precluded from sharing with you things like that. And that as we all head into the new year, You know, we can reflect on how kind of weak and stinky Donald Trump is and how strange this MAGA movement is. you the clips of James Comer. James Comer goes, well, there are some spies from China who we use on our investigation against Hunter Biden. It's like Hunter Biden says, look, I am here. You wanted me here. I will testify publicly. No limitations. Ask me whatever you want. I just want to testify before the Republicans in public so there could be no doubt in what it is I say so the whole world can see it. Then you have the MAGA Republicans go, well, that's not our rules. We want a secret deposition. It's like, you want a secret deposition?

And now their new thing is because they believe President Biden knew that Hunter Biden was going to show up in Washington, D.C., the day that Hunter Biden showed up, that now they claim President Biden is involved in obstruction of justice and stopping Hunter Biden from doing the secret deposition because President Biden may have been aware that his son was coming to Washington, D.C., where President Biden lives. I don't know, but it's possible the MAGA Republicans may be onto something. You see, they're about to figure out that Joe Biden is Hunter Biden's dad. Really, really, really. They're about to uncover that. Look, everybody, we want to wish you a very happy new year, happy holidays, Merry Christmas, whatever it is that you celebrate. Have a very happy new year. Wow, this is our last show before the new, the last Midas Touch podcast. Next show will

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