The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump CAN’T HIDE HIS FEAR at TWO Speeches
Episode Date: April 3, 2024MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s spending his speeches in Grand Rapids, Michigan and Greenbay, Wisconsin complaining about posting a bond and his court cases. Thanks to HIMS...! Start your free online visit today at https://hims.com/meidas for your personalized ED treatment options. Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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One of the strangest aspects of Donald Trump's stump speech, I guess, where do I begin?
I mean, after, of course, Donald Trump starts the speech by playing a new version of the
national anthem he recorded with the January 6th insurrectionists who he calls hostages.
But then the speech basically just goes on where he says a
bunch of unhinged things that make absolutely no sense. He has cognitive glitches. But then he just
stands up there, whether it's in Grand Rapids, Michigan, or whether it was in Green Bay,
Wisconsin, like where he gave a speech on Tuesday. And then he just whines about his court cases. He just whines in front of the crowd,
oh, I had to post a bond of $175 million that's never been done before. No one's ever done that
before, you know, which is just entirely false. And that's like his entire speech is just him
getting up there and whining. I mean, not talking about healthcare, not talking about raising people's
wages, not talking about, I don't know, things that should actually matter to people. I mean,
he tries to scare people about invasions and he has a lot of xenophobic rhetoric. And then he goes
and says that I'm the one protecting suburban women. Suburban women, you need to like me.
He says in his speeches. I'm the
one protecting you, he says. He really did say that, but I'm not going to focus on that right
now. Let me focus on Donald Trump whining about the court cases, having to post bonds and this
and that. So here's Donald Trump. I'll give you the portions of his speeches from Tuesday,
where the first one he goes,
I'm the only one who's ever had a post to bond. And for what? What did I do? I didn't do anything.
You did. Let me be very clear what it was. Fraud and sexual assault. That's why you have to post
about sexual assault in the amount of $83.3 million, and fraud was a $464 million judgment that the
appellate division reduced to $175 million for the bond.
The judgment is still $464 plus post-judgment interest.
The bond is reduced to $175.
I want to be clear about that.
Here's Donald Trump
whining on Tuesday during the speech he gave. Play this clip.
I think I'm the only one in America that has to put up a bond. For what? Nobody knows what I did.
I had to put up a bond. If you kill somebody, there's no bond. Don't worry about it. Go ahead.
And again, I mean, everything he says is false there. You're not the only person. That's just what the law is. If I just
look up, take a look at the CPLR, which is, this is just what the New York law is. CPLR section
5519. If you want to stay the enforcement of a judgment, every single person who has a case in
New York, stay without court order, service upon the adverse party of a notice of appeal or an affidavit of intention to move for permission to appeal, stays all proceedings to enforce the judgment or order appealed from pending the appeal or determination on the motion for permission to appeal, where, and then it goes to, the judgment or order directs the payment of a sum of money and an undertaking in that sum is given that if the judgment or order appealed from or any part of it is affirmed or the appeal is dismissed, the appellant or moving party shall pay the amount directed to be paid by the judgment or order or the part of it as to which the judgment or order is affirmed.
So that's New York law.
And what Donald Trump and all of these kind of MAGA Republicans and the right-wing disinformation
echo chambers want to try to act like is they go, in criminal cases, the bond is like $5
million.
This isn't a criminal case.
Yes, Donald Trump will be going to a criminal case, which is the Manhattan District Attorney criminal case. If you look at Donald Trump's criminal cases, unlike other criminal defendants in Trump's position, Georgia criminal case, RICO case.
No bond in the Florida federal case for the Mar-a-Lago documents that are defense information,
national defense information, Donald Trump stole.
And no bond in the Manhattan District Attorney criminal case.
So actually, Trump got the benefit that no other criminal defendants get.
But Trump is held to the same standard as all other civil litigants. In civil
cases, again, if you want to stay the enforcement of the judgment and not pay it when you lose a
case, the privilege to stay enforcement is triggered when you post a bond that's equal to
the judgment plus a post-judgment interest amount. That's just what it is.
That's why you have to post a bond.
But who would ever let the facts get in the way of a MAGA Republican ranting, raving,
whining conspiracy theory?
But here, Donald Trump, in the speech, just goes on and talks about how very proud he
is of the bond.
He goes, no one's posted a bond this much.
Again, false.
Lots of people post bonds this much.
Big corporations who have cases do that. Here, play this clip.
This is all election. Put up $175 million. Nobody ever heard of $175 million bond.
Honestly, I'm very proud of the fact I don't think there's been $175 million. Nobody,
a bond is for half a million dollars, a million dollars or much less
than that. A bond isn't for this. And this is what they, and they used this. And then Donald Trump
goes on in the same speeches to talk about how he claims that he won, which he did not. And he goes,
I won. It's something called the statute of limitations. And the appellate division said that I am the winner. But yet the
judge who's a rogue, who is a fake, you know what a rogue and a fake is? That judge said that I did
not win. And then he hit me with a $464 million fine. I mean, everything Donald Trump says on the
appeals court never said that he won. The appeals court did say that Ivanka was to get out of the case because she claimed
that she wasn't involved in the Trump organization.
She basically threw her family under the bus, but not when it comes to Donald Trump.
Just so you know what Donald Trump's argument is, so when you hear him or MAGA people say
this issue on statute of limitations, what Donald Trump's argument is, is that you should basically revert back
to the very first time that he committed the fraud.
So if he committed fraud in a transaction
that took place 20 years ago,
you should focus on that transaction
versus when he keeps submitting statement
of financial conditions on an ongoing basis.
So Trump says, calculate the statute of limitations from when the property was initially acquired,
not from when the fraud continued to be committed.
And what the appellate division has said and what Justice in Goran said is that that would
make no sense if you would revert back to when a property was acquired versus an ongoing continuous
fraud. So the statute of limitations begins from the last act of fraudulent conduct using fraudulent
statement of financial conditions. But again, don't let that get in the way of Donald Trump's
fraud and lying. Here, play this clip. These are corrupt people. There was no problem. There was
no anything. This was like a perfect transaction. Charge me $450 million fine. These are sick
people. And we have to go on and we have to win and we have to hope the appeals courts are honest because if they're not
honest this country i'll tell you where are we going this has been such a blight on new york
the appellate division actually gave me the case i won the case because i wanted in the
appellate division not the 175 i won that too they reduced it from 450 to 175 but i won the case
because it's called statute of limitations.
The appellate division ruled in my favor. That means most of the case is gone.
The judge refused to honor it. Now, nobody ever heard of that before.
So the appellate division said, you won the case. That's it. And the judge said, I don't accept it.
He's called a rogue judge. He's a rogue judge. He's a fake judge.
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As you watch Donald Trump go and whine,
I mean, like here's Donald Trump
in the speech he gave in Reno, Nevada,
where Donald Trump brags about being indicted more than Al Capone, who he's like the great Alphonse Capone.
Play this clip.
I don't know.
I hear different stories.
Did anybody ever hear of the great Alphonse Capone?
Al Capone.
Great, great head of the mafia.
Right.
Mean scarface.
He got a scar that went from here to here, and he didn't mind at all.
But he was a rough guy.
Now, I heard he was indicted once.
A couple of people told me a few times more.
But I was indicted four times in Al Capone, Alphonse.
You know, if he had dinner with you and if he didn't like
the way you smiled at him at dinner, he would kill you. You'd be dead. By the time you walked
out of the nice restaurant, you would be dead. He got indicted once. I got indicted four times
over bullshit. I got indicted. Bullshit. And this is part of his stump speech that
Donald Trump gives. Like, here's a speech he gave in front of young Republicans who now are just all kind of MAGA radicals.
And this is a speech he gave in New York where Donald Trump, again, is saying that Al Capone is the greatest.
Here, play this clip.
First time in history.
And I always say Al Capone, the greatest of them all.
Gangster.
Scarface.
So I just want you to think about this.
This is the stump speech that Donald Trump gives over and over again, praising Al Capone,
singing the J6 song and replacing our national anthem with the J6 insurrectionist song,
whining about court cases, lying about posting that no one ever
posts bonds.
I mean, this is what he's doing.
This is some extremist, wild, weird, dangerous stuff right here.
But just so you see, then it goes on Fox and then they inject the disinformation and try
to act like, but Bernie Madoff and other people don't pay bonds like this.
Normally a bond is five to $10 million. You're talking about the difference between
criminal cases, a bond to not be incarcerated, to which Trump has had to pay no bond versus
staying the enforcement of a civil judgment. Just tell people the truth. And you'll see on
this Fox clip as well, they're also lying about saying Justice
Mershon's daughter may have been involved in posting. No, she wasn't. Just stop lying
to the people. Just stop lying. Here, play this clip.
Yeah, so he paid $175 million in bail. And I want to underscore a point Rebecca Heinrichs
made on our couch last week, because I just think it says everything you need to know
that the American public sees. And it's when you look at previous bonds that have been posted, you see Bernie Madoff at 10 million.
OK, so like largest Ponzi scheme ever, or at least among them, 10 million dollars.
But oh, wait, we'll give Trump somewhere north of 400 million.
That was the initial ruling.
Then you go over to Sam Bankman-Fried, 250 million bail.
And his prosecutors argued or his defense attorneys argued that that was the
largest ever pretrial bond but then we get to donald trump victimless crime no one hurt the
banks are happy 454 million reduced to 175 million i think it should have been zero this case should
have never been brought up and you pay this and one of trump's contentions is you're forcing me
to pay up before an appeal even happens so imagine imagine someone who didn't have that money. He did. He was able
to put it forward. You put up, you sell assets, and then maybe it's all overturned on appeal.
I think that's a big gripe. Well, that was a- Folks, you know here on the Midas Touch Network,
I just want the facts and nothing but the facts. And I just want to share with you
what Donald Trump's doing in these speeches is weird. It's dangerous. It's all lies. And then I also showed you, you know, from Fox what they're saying. I mean,
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