The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump Caught Spying on Reporter in Epstein Cover Up

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on how it seems Donald Trump and his DOJ back in 2019 were apparently spying on the top reporter with the Miami Herald Julie Brown while she was in the middle of exposing Epstein and his connections. Dose: Save 35% on your first month of subscription by going to https://dosedaily.co/MEIDAS or entering MEIDAS at checkout. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BetMGEM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Another very disturbing finding in what has been released thus far in the Epstein files, and you know it's only been a very small percentage of files that have been released it, turns out that back in 2018, 2019, Donald Trump's DOJ, based on what we're reading, seems to have been engaged in spying of the main journalist who was breaking the big Epstein bombshells, Julie K. Brown, who was writing for The Miami Herald, is credited for reopening investigations into Jeffrey Epstein with her exposés that were published under the title, Perversion of Justice in 2018 and 2019. Ultimately, when prosecutors charged Epstein in July 2019, they credited the investigative journalism work of people like Julie K. Brown. But behind the scenes, it seems that Trump's DOJ and FBI were spying on her.

They were monitoring her movements and her flights. Even her made a name, which she said she rarely, if ever, uses in any public setting. The DOJ and FBI were watching her movements. Why would they be watching her movements? And then there's still some additional information here that is redacted. Julie K. Brown is horrified. The Democrats in the House Oversight Committee are demanding answers right now. Julie K. Brown posted the following this weekend. Does somebody at the DOJ want to tell me why my American Airlines booking information and flights in July 2019 are part of the Epstein files attached to a grand jury subpoena? as the flight itinerary includes my maiden name, and I did book this flight, why was the DOJ

monitoring me? Laura Rosen says, this is disturbing. So the top reporter on the Epstein case. This occurred during the first Trump regime a month before Epstein was found hanged. The Democrats on the House Oversight Committee just posted the following. The Department of Justice needs to explain, why travel information and booking itineraries for a journalist are in the Epstein files. Now, Julie K. Brown explained that, of course, she expected her name to come up in some areas of the Epstein files, and she was the person breaking the big stories. But she never expected that her movements before the DOJ ultimately indicted Epstein and before Epstein allegedly died by suicide,

that she was being followed and spied on by Donald Trump's DOJ at that time. It should be noted as well. She's still doing incredible reporting on Epstein. Just the other day, she brought up the following email. Again, that was part of this small amount of files that the DOJ has released and it's heavily redacted. She posted the following. This was just the other day. This photo of Donald Trump and Gielane Maxwell

that was found on Steve Bannon's cell phone should be made public. There are prosecutors who are talking to each other in a heavily redacted email. And the photo is redacted as well. And the email between these prosecutors says the following. GM photo on Bannon phone, Gleine Maxwell on Bannon phone.

Hi, redacted. Why is that redacted? I hope you're well. I'm helping out with the responsiveness review for WBTW, and I've been looking through, that's the We Build the Wall federal prosecution. And there was a state prosecution as well. I've been looking through Steve Bannon's iPhone cell phone on Cellbrite,

his iPhone 7, on Cellbrite. As I was going through the images from that phone, I found an image of Trump and Elaine Maxwell, well, on Bannon's phone, see screenshot from Cell Bright attached. I discussed with Sunny, and we wanted to flag this for you in case it was of any importance to you since you are on both cases. Please let me know if you'd like anything further done with this. Thanks so much.

There is zero justification for this photo to be redacted, and that's what Julie K. Brown said. Now, going back to Julie Brown's reporting for the Miami Herald, the series of her. reports are compiled under the heading perversion of justice. And back on November 28th, 2018, and that period of time, she was writing stories like this, how a future Trump cabinet member gave a serial sex abuser the deal of a lifetime. That broke the story about the sweetheart deal that Alex Acosta gave to Epstein when Acosta was the United States attorney, the top federal prosecutor for the Southern District of Florida in 2007. Here's another article from Julie K. Brown.

Cops work to put serial sex abuser in prison. Prosecutors worked to cut him a break. Yet again, she broke massive stories like that. How about this one? For years, Jeffrey Epstein abused teen girls, police say. Here is a timeline of his case. She spoke to dozens and dozens of 100 plus, and she, in painstaking detail, was telling their stories.

She brought it back to the forefront, and that ultimately led to Epstein being prosecuted again, all the while Trump's DOJ was spying on her. By the way, she published a book called Proversion of Justice, the Jeffrey Epstein story, and that's a compilation of her articles and a broader reflection on what she uncovered. One of the best investigative reporters being spied on. we now learn. Now, we had the opportunity to speak to Julie K. Brown through one of our programs on the Midas Touch Network called the Court of History. You can see why she was very, very concerning to the Trump regime. She knows a lot, and she's got incredible recall and details. For example,

She focused on the model agencies of Epstein and Trump and how these model agencies were used. Here's what she told us on the Midas Touch Network, Legal AF, the Court of History. Play this clip. Epstein had a company, a modeling company, and he, so Brad Edwards deposed the accountant who worked for that company, worked for Epstein's company, modeling company. And in that deposition, she provided a lot of detail about what he was doing. And it's clear that he was using that company, a modeling company, as a cover in part for the sex trafficking that he was doing because she was saying, she was describing exactly what they would do. They would send the younger girls down to Epstein's place in Palm Beach.

And she, you know, she just gave more detail than we had had before, including the fact that when Epstein formed that company, he said to her, I want it to be set up just like Donald Trump's modeling agency. So what that means. And that's in that record. She testified to that under oath. that Epstein said that he wanted to model his modeling company that he would invest in on Trump's. That's right. That's right. And so, I mean, we don't know what that means, whether that, you know, we can't say that that means that Trump's modeling agency was trafficking. But we do know that in some respects, Epstein's modeling company. company was used in part to recruit young girls from all over the world and send them to events and parties where ostensibly they would be expected to have sex with some of the, you know, party goers.

Yeah, there are parties that are described of other people who organized models with both Trump and Epstein present. that there's one that was described where they're the only two guests for 25-some young models. Right. Right. Yeah. Jean-Luk Brunel from Paris headed Epstein's company, and he was arrested for rape and for sexual assault and hanged himself after Epstein's death. right the two were business partners yeah they were business partners and um and close associates well not only that but he brunel recruit was one of his top recruiters uh and i'm not talking

models i'm talking about girls and young women uh for sex i mean that's what he did um because they would make these promises to these women when they met them we're going to get you into the modeling business. You're going to make lots and lots of money. I have a very wealthy person. He knows, he has all the contacts, et cetera. And that's how they kind of, they also, Epstein also had a lawyer working for him. The bookkeeper told us about this, or told, you know, Brad Edwards about this,

is that they had a, they had lawyers that were helping women from overseas. Cs get visas so that they come here for those reasons. So it was very common at the time of H, what is it, HB1 or H1B, visas. Trump's modeling agency depended upon those visas to bring over models mostly from Eastern Europe for his agency. Yeah, so it's interesting. given his current views on immigration, to say the least. So, but you are on the case here.

You're exposing this as this is going on, bringing it up all, again, reporting. Right. Yeah, even after Epstein's death, I continue to report the trail of people that helped him, including members of the government of the U.S. Virgin Islands. He employed the governor's wife there. He tossed around a lot of money to a lot of people. Remember, he was a convicted sex predator, so he was supposed to be monitored by the U.S. Marshal Service.

And he just wasn't monitored at all. This is all around the island little St. James that he was doing. Is that where all got connected? Right, right. And, you know, it's the perfect, it's a remote island. You can only get there by boat or plane. So it was the perfect locale for him to have some of these sex parties, so to speak, or, you know, to entertain his clients and offer them food, wine and a young girl if they wanted it. You know, it's wild. We talk all the time about heart health, gut health, brain health, but almost never about the most underrated organ in your body, your liver. It's doing over 500 functions every single day, filtering unwanted elements, supporting digestion,

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interview also talks about Maria Farmer and now you'll recall that Maria Farmer and Annie Farmer were our survivors, their sisters. And Maria Farmer's report to the FBI from 1996 about Epstein was ignored by the FBI in 1990. And a lot of people were trying to say, oh, Maria Farmer's making this up. She never really reported this to the FBI. Well, also in the Epstein files that have been released so far was her report to the FBI from 1996. But first, he or she is talking about Geelaine and also Maria Farmer. You're not going to want to miss this.

Here, play this clip. The survivors believe that she, in a way, was a bigger monster than Epstein. because she was the one that made them feel safe. She was the one that brought them in. She used fraud by saying, he's going to hire you, you're going to travel, you're going to be a masseuse. She sort of acted like a motherly nurturing type, you know, English lady with her English accent, and they took it like, wow, she's a really smart and kind.

lady, and that's what kind of snare got them in there. So in their mind, and by the way, you know, under the testimony that convicted her, some of these women were sexually molested by her, you know, so it wasn't even just that she brought them to Epstein. She was involved with some of the sex. She would groom them and tell them, this is what you do to pleasure him, You know, it would start out as a massage, but clearly then, you know, take off on your clothes and it would be a little further each time. So she was grooming them for sex, and she participated in that. Yeah. So I wonder if you're in touch at all with Maria Farmer at all.

with who Maria Farmer I've never interviewed her and one of the reasons for I tried a couple of times but initially you know she was suffering from cancer

and she was going through chemotherapy and she just wasn't healthy enough and then I had an interview schedule with her I was going to fly to Arkansas and that night the night before I was was scheduled to fly, to interview her, Epstein was arrested. So I had to go to New York.

So we never really were able to connect. So I've never interviewed her. Yeah. She... Was it tell people who she is? I mean, I'm not sure everyone will know that. And the connection to the relationship... Well, Maria Farmer worked for Epstein.

She was one of those women that got recruited and worked for... but in New York. She worked for him in New York. And she was an artist, or is an artist, I should say. And he was connected to a lot of important museum people and people in the art world and was telling her that he would help her with her paintings and get people to look at them and so she could sell them. In any event, she was, you know, she has accused Epstein and Maxwell of trying to have sex with her.

She rejected them. But she was there during this period of time when they were recruiting other people. So she had information. She saw some of this. And when she wanted to do an interview with Vicki Ward, who was writing for us. She wore a vanity fair. And she told Vicki her story. She also, by the way, went to the New York Police Department to report what was going on.

They referred her to the FBI. The FBI did talk to her way back in the 2000s, early 2000s. But they never did anything about it. She encountered Trump, didn't she? I'm sorry? She encountered Donald Trump. That's what she just said recently, yes. You know, Trump and Epsom were friends.

You know, there's no, you know, I don't know how you can deny that. I mean, he was, he was, they were friends. Maybe they had a falling out later, but at one point they were very close. They were friends. So, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me that she encountered him. She encountered other people too. So, you know, in her, you have to understand, she feels that if the FBI had listened to her back then and had truly investigated what was going on, it's possible that all these hundreds of women wouldn't have been, you know, raped or molested or abused, you know, in her mind. Now, as we now know, the portion about her talking about, I think it was a profile, by the way, Vicki,

Ward was doing a profile of Epstein, and the editor decided to take out the part about Maria, the allegations. Years ago, I remember this. It was Graydon Carter took that out. I think you were right. Yeah. Right. So, but, you know, she was around, Maxwell, you know, she was in that orbit where she could see

what Epstein was doing. And by the way, he molested both Maxwell and Epstein molested her sister who was younger than her. He was a teenager and tried to ingratiate themselves. You know, what they would do

is they would buy things for these victims. They would tell, they would, you know, these victims were dazzled by Epstein as well because they had so much money You know, you go into his home in New York, and there are pictures of him with Clinton and other world leaders. You know, he had tons of money. He had a big staff that was doing everything for him. So they were sort of in all of him.

And Maria and Annie in particular wanted to go to college. They came from, you know, a family that didn't have means. and he was promising them that he would put them through college, you know, put at least Annie through college. Yeah. Now, Caitlin Collins writes, months ago, Annie Farmer reminded us, and Annie Farmer's a survivor of Epstein, too, reminded us how her sister, Maria, filed a complaint with the FBI in 1996

and never heard back. She argued more girls were harmed that didn't need to because of FBI in action. Farmer had told the FBI that Epstein, who assaulted Maria, a figurative artist, and Ghislane Maxwell had stolen photos of her younger sisters. Today's release confirms the complaint. And you can actually see that Maria Farmer indeed made that complaint right here. Here's a quote from Maria Farmer, the original whistleblower who reported Jeffrey Epstein to the FBI in 1996, as Thomas Volsko says. she's waited 30 years for this. This is a moment for which I have waited three decades over half my life. When I was ignored and hung up on by the FBI in 1996, my world turned upside down and I felt frozen in time. I face death threats, ridicule, and mockery by some of the most powerful people on earth. When my FBI reports are finally made available, I am hopeful that I will be able to pick up where I left off at age 26. I am also hopeful that this will be an important

step for many of these survivors and to hold the government accountable for their grotesque law enforcement failure, one of the largest in U.S. history. Brad Edwards, a lawyer who has represented many Epstein victims, told Mike Baker and others that the FBI could have prevented hundreds of victims from being abused if they had listened to Maria Farmer. Shameful, he says, calling for an investigation. Here is what Maria Farmer said about Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein during an interview she gave. Here, play this clip. The time that is most memorable to me is the time when he hit on me because I was in the office. It was one of the first times I started working for Donald Trump's a sleeve bag. Okay. Yes. It was when I started working for Epstein and it was

nine o'clock at night and Jeffrey Epstein's office is totally empty. I told the New York Times this, but of course they don't see the whole thing, right? Even though Mike Baker is amazing, but they would not allow him to tell the truth. So basically, I go into this office. It's nine o'clock at night and I sit down and a few minutes later and I'm wearing running clothes. Okay, so it was really weird. It's nine o'clock at night and I'm wearing running clothes because I didn't have money. So I did jog up there. Right. And so I'm just, I just, I've struggled, you know, for so long. So I'm like up there in the office seated and I've got my, um, you know, my running clothes on.

So my legs are showing and in walks this man that when I called, when I reported him to the FBI said that game show host, Donald Trump, because I play with the game show host. Yeah. He's so cheesy, you know, but anyway, so I said, um, I mean, I said hello to, you know, he walks in and I just kind of acknowledged him like a head. head nod or something. And he immediately starts, he's seated across, I mean, standing across the room for me, and I'm seating, seated. And he's like, oh, Maria, I mean, no, he didn't, sorry, I was just looking at something. He, uh, he's standing across the room and he's looking at me and I'm like, oh, gross, you know, this guy's so gross. Anyway, he's just looking glaring at my legs. Like, yum. I felt, I told my sister, I felt like I was his dinner or his lunch, you know? yeah the way he was looking me so epstein comes in and that's and by the way i did not look good i was like i'm not a pretty i'm not exceptionally beautiful or anything like that these are just gross people you know what i mean yeah yeah so i'm just like a normal person who went on a run and i'm seated there so he assumed i was there for him and this is how i know epstein walks up to him

and goes no no she's not here for you and they were smirking and epstein whispered something he goes go in there and what and so drop at nine o'clock at night goes in the other room But there's someone in there for him. Right, right. I don't know who. But Epstein said, no, no, no, she's not here for you. Now, with all of this coming out with Donald Trump and his DOJ, seemingly spying on this top reporter, it also explains Donald Trump's just freaking out over these files, huh?

You know, in the past few days, he posted the following. You know this by now, now, a million more pages on. Epstein are found. DOJ is being forced to spend all of its time on this Democrat-inspired hoax. When do they say no more and work on election fraud? The Dems are the ones who worked with Epstein, not the Republicans. Release all their names, embarrass them, and get back to helping our country. The radical left doesn't want people talking about Trump and Republican success.

Only a long-ago dead Jeffrey Epstein. Just another witch hunt. What a horrific thing he said there. re-traumatizing the survivors, sickening, sickening, sickening, and now we learn about his spying, the spying that they were doing. Isn't it all projection also, right, when Trump and the Republicans are like, the Democrats were spying on Donald Trump about Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. No, they weren't, but you seem to have been spying on investigative reporters who were out there exposing a child sex trafficking room. There are so many documents as well that have not

been released, memos on co-conspirators, co-conspirator update memos, corporate prosecution memos, those haven't been released. We reported on the Midas Touch Network and we broke the story about those 1.2 million missing records out of the Southern District of New York. There are other emails like this July 7th, 2019 message, and this was before Epstein allegedly died by suicide, about these 10 co-conspirators and whether contact was being made and potential prosecution against 10 co-conspirators. Then there's this email, January 20th of 2008, prosecutors sending each other this. For your situational awareness wanted to let you know that the flight records we received yesterday reflect that Donald Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet many more times than

previously have been reported or that we were aware of, including during the period. we would expect to charge in a Maxwell case. Wow, wow, wow. Hit subscribe, help us get to 6 million subscribers, and thank you so much for watching and listening to this report. And thanks to Julie K. Brown for her investigative journalism. And thank you to all of the survivors and their courage for coming forward and holding it together

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