The MeidasTouch Podcast - TRUMP CONVICTED ON ALL COUNTS

Episode Date: May 31, 2024

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Donald Trump is now convicted felon Donald Trump. Donald Trump was found guilty in his criminal trial on all 34 felony counts. Trump, the defendant, guilty. And then they proceeded to find him guilty on each and every one of the 34 counts. This is what Donald Trump heard. We, the jury, find defendant Donald J. Trump guilty on count one, guilty on count two, guilty on count three, guilty on count four, guilty on count five, guilty on count six, guilty on count seven, guilty on count eight, guilty on count 10. Guilty on count 11. Guilty on count 12. Guilty on count 13. Guilty on count 14. Guilty on count 15. Guilty on count 16. Guilty on count 17. Guilty on count 18. Guilty on count 18, guilty on count 19, guilty on count 20, guilty on count 21, guilty on count 22, guilty on count 23, guilty on count 24, guilty on count 25, guilty on count 26, guilty on count 27, guilty on count 28, guilty on count 29, guilty on count 30, guilty on count 31, guilty on count 32, guilty on count 33, and guilty on count 34 signed the jury. A historic day, folks. And I read that because that's what Donald Trump heard. That's what went down in the courtroom. And for the past seven weeks, as we've been covering the actual trial, and we've been covering this back since even before the criminal charges were filed, we've been focused on the facts. We've been focused on the evidence.

We've been focused on the documents, the witness statements, the checks. We've been focused on the details. And I know sometimes the details may not be steeped in drama, but what is important was that we focused on the evidence. I think when you go back and look at our coverage here at the Midas Touch Network, almost 100%, I would say, we were able to call almost every single thing that happened using the data and just explaining what was happening and not buying into all of these media narratives. Donald Trump is now a convicted felon. They will move to sentencing on July 11th. It also happens to be four days before the Republican convention.

But let's be clear and not normalize this moment. The leader of the Republican party is a convicted felon, a jury of his peers, a fair and impartial jury who Donald Trump's lawyers had the opportunity to select, who heard the evidence, who deliberated for about 12 hours, who asked for additional information as part of their deliberations, who took their job very, very seriously, returned this guilty verdict. That's what went down today. And it was so interesting. I was preparing for political beatdown and it had seemed that the jury was just going to be going home for the day. And within, I think I had let the dogs out before I was about to go live with Dina Dahl on political beatdown for Michael Cohen. And then all of a sudden I start getting hundreds

of messages. There's a verdict. There's a verdict. There's a verdict. And you should know from my track record that the second that you leave your home, that's when the things happen. If you had a haircut booked, the verdict would have come in a different time. The verdict would have happened sometime while you were getting your haircut. If you're at the dentist, that would have happened while you're at the dentist. So of course it happened Ben while you were walking the dogs. Well, I would say this though, it was such poetic justice that I could read the verdict during the episode of Political Beatdown, the show co-founded by Michael Cohen, who was a key witness in the Trump criminal trial. And think about all the media that

was trying to push that narrative about Cohen on the stand, all the false things that they were pushing, which we were saying, that's not what we're hearing inside of the actual courtroom for people who were there. But for whatever reason, whether it was for their personal gain or pushing a both sides narrative, all of those people, you know who you are, were just so absolutely wrong. Just a historic episode today of the Midas Touch podcast. I'm so proud to be a part of this unapologetically Midas Mighty for being there with us through all of this coverage from the very beginning. I mean, we've been discussing this case for a long time now. We're about to bring on in a little bit Karen Friedman Agnifilo. Of course, you all know her from the podcast Legal AF and the new show Mistrial on the on the Midas Touch Network, now available on audio podcasts, wherever you get your audio podcasts. And Karen has really been a leader of a lot of this coverage on our end. And I remember way back when Karen actually interviewed Alvin Bragg, Manhattan DA, Alvin

Bragg, and the reactions that we received at that time. And now reflecting on that to current day, Alvin Bragg, I think, is a hero. Alvin Bragg followed the facts of the law. He prosecuted this case by the book, and he got a conviction on all 34 counts. So that is a massive, massive accomplishment for Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg. It's a massive accomplishment for Karen's former office as a whole. And Ben, incredible job with your coverage. I know you've been doing like marathon coverage on this network almost nearly every single hour of the day.

He loves it. I mean, it's such an honor to be able to present the data and the facts and to be able to deliver things straight in this sort of way to people. And I hope it's a bit of indication also for all of you watching that as we were doing this coverage, that we were just following the facts of the case. We didn't take any of these red herrings like a lot of the rest of the media did and tried to mislead in order to create this horse race sort of narrative. And I think that's important when you're dealing with cases like this. I know there are a lot of people certainly out there who say this isn't something to celebrate, that we should not be celebrating, taking to the streets and partying. And I respect that. Don't get me wrong. It's a somber thing to have a former president of the United States convicted, and a current presidential candidate convicted of

34 felonies. But I got to say, if you want to celebrate, enjoy the celebrations, folks. Oh. We got a pop. That was a classic pop right there. That was perfect. I'm going to say it's okay to celebrate. It's okay to be happy about justice is all I'm going to say. So without further ado, I'm going to turn it over to Jordy. Let's get Jordy's first word since the verdict. Jordy, how are you feeling? What's up, brothers? What's up, Midas Mighty? What I'm just really excited about, two quick things. One, Brett, to your point exactly. Look, we're not narrative driven here at the Midas Touch Network and the Midas Mighty

knows that. And that's why the audience comes back to us night in and night out, day in and day out. Because we just lead with the data. Like y'all know us and you know that we're just not going to steer you in any direction that we want to. We're going to read the data. And Ben and Karen and Michael and the network does such a nice job at breaking things down. And we're not just going to lead and give you hopium, right?

We're going to go data first, and then let you make your informed decision with that. And then Brett, to your point right there about a lot of folks saying this isn't a time to celebrate, I think you could hold two thoughts in your mind at once. I think you could realize the severity of the moment of what just went down today, but then also be appreciative of seeing our legal systems work in a way that truly shows that nobody is above the law. And so this conviction today, Donald Trump has shown that on full display that it doesn't even matter if you're a former president, if you don't follow the law and then the jury of your peers convicts you, you know, you're convicted felon. And that's it. Convict 45. Ben, what say you?

Well, what say I is let's bring in Karen Friedman Agnifilo, who led our coverage here on the Midas Touch Network on this Trump criminal trial. Karen Friedman Agnifilo, you were the number two at the Manhattan District Attorney's Office. You worked there for nearly 30 years, a time served as the acting Manhattan District Attorney. You've been able to provide us with some great insight about the way the cases work based on your real-life perspective and what you dealt with at the office. And I would say thanks to you, in particular, our coverage of the Trump criminal trial has been the number one across all digital most watched. And it's been an honor to co-host that with you, Karen. But we heard a little bit from you before when the news was breaking, but I'd love your more full detailed analysis right now. I would love to hear your

reaction as a little bit more of this news is now kind of settling in. Karen. Yeah. I'm going to start with one quick war story. When I was a very young prosecutor in the early nineties and I had my first trial and it was a conviction, I remember coming back and there was one person in particular who was saying, you know, pop the champagne. This is great. Even, uh, even likened a conviction to, uh, a sexual, uh, something sexual, which I just remember thinking at the time I had a pit in my stomach and I thought, oh, I don't think

this job is for me because I don't feel happy at all. Am I absolutely, is it the right thing? And should there have been a conviction? Yes, but the gravity of a criminal conviction is absolutely one of the most intense, incredible feelings in not a celebratory way, but in a somber, it's almost how you would feel when something happens in the military or something happens. I can't describe it, but it's not celebratory. And I'm sure that the jurors here in this particular case felt that same weight of what they were asked to do. These were 12 average regular people. By the way, they weren't people necessarily from Manhattan. They were

currently residents of Manhattan, but they were people who come from all walks of life, different states, and even different countries. And I think that's important because, again, there are many narratives out there driven about how I can't get a fair trial in Manhattan. People in Manhattan are so biased. Well, this is such a cross section of the United States of America. This particular jury, I thought was really interesting. And I am sure they felt the weight of what they were tasked to do, which has nothing to do with the fact that it's Donald Trump, but it's to sit in judgment of another human being and to render a verdict because it has nothing to do with Alvin Bragg or Joe Biden or Judge Mershon, the people that

Donald Trump had been railing about for so long. This has to do with those 12 men and women who heard the evidence. Witnesses came in and there was nothing special about this trial. This is exactly the same as every criminal trial in the United States of America. You have to go in, you go to court, and you sit and you are judged by a jury of your peers who have to find beyond a reasonable doubt. And that's the core of our system. And every single person who breaks the law has to face that same system. And and and so this it's not about the D.A., it's not about the judge, it's not about the prosecutor. It's it's about the jury and the's about the jury. And the jury heard the

witnesses and there's no hearsay allowed, right? It's as witnesses have to come into court and swear to tell the truth, nothing but the truth. So help me God. They have to say what happened and the defense gets to cross examine them and gets to ask whatever questions they want. So it's fully, fully vetted and the jury heard it and they sat in judgment of another human being. And that is a very, very difficult task. And I just give them so much credit for what they did. And frankly, they absolutely recognize the gravity of the situation. I think just given how people described what they looked like in the courtroom. And they were also resolute. The jury was polled, meaning the foreperson is the one who reads the verdict. But then the judge asks,

would the parties like the jurors polled, meaning individually asked, is that your verdict? And the judge asked juror number one, you just heard the, you just heard the, or juror number two, you just heard the four person read the unanimous, the guilty of all 34 charges. Is that your verdict? Yes. Juror number two, is that your verdict? Yes. Juror number three, is that your verdict? Yes. Juror number three, is that your verdict? Yes. And so Donald Trump had to sit there and listen 12 times for each and every juror to be able to come out and emphatically say, that is my verdict. And the other thing I just want to say is, again, when you have Donald Trump saying, again, this is not legitimate and everything is stacked against me, et cetera, and I can't get a fair trial. If that were the case, these jurors would have just had a 34-count conviction in an hour when they got the case.

But they were out 12 hours and they were out overnight. They asked for readback. They asked for, they wanted to hear the testimony and go back over the evidence. They even asked for readback on the law. And that's, and so they considered the evidence. They considered the facts. They applied the facts to the law. And when was the last time you were able to get 12 people to agree on anything, right? Imagine asking 12 people, where should we have dinner tonight? What movie should we see? Right? The fact that these 12 people all agreed that unanimously that Donald Trump was guilty of 34 counts of falsification of business records is just astonishing, especially when you read

the definition of reasonable doubt. As a prosecutor, every time a judge read that definition, I would have a pit in my stomach and think, how am I going to get a conviction? It's a really, really high burden. It's beyond any doubt with which you can affix a reason. That means these jurors had no doubt that they could affix a reason to none. And that is absolutely a condemnation of Donald Trump and what he did in this case. This is not a hush money case. The theory of the prosecution's case with no uncertain terms was this was election interference. In fact, the judge said, if you find that that was not election interference, he's not guilty. This was about influencing the 2016 election. That was the

theory. The prosecution had to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt and the jury found it. And so that is what he did. So for anyone to say this is not a serious case, this case should not have been brought, just think about it. In 2016, when nobody thought he was going to win, right? Nobody thought that back then. And what happened? He was able to hide information from the voters. He suppressed this information from the voters. And he won by three swing states and only by 80,000 votes. What if this made the deal or made it so that that's why he won? Think about how history changed because he became the 45th president. So for to say, this is not an important case. This is not a significant case, just really doesn't realize what this is about. But the jury just absolutely

validated what we've all been saying. And we've all been saying, and, you know, I want to give the three of you credit because frankly, yes, I was at the Manhattan DA's office for almost 30 years. I spent my whole life there. I spent my whole career there. But you're in a bubble. And when I came out of the Manhattan DA's office, I wasn't sure what I wanted to do. And then I met you, Ben, in particular. And I learned about what you and your brothers were doing and Midas Touch and what you were creating and that this was a movement that was like no other movement. And what you guys created here, you were the first people to really say, you know what,

enough with what is going on in the media, enough with the fake information that's being put out there, enough with the both sides-ism. And you created the Midas touch network. And I met you Ben and I met Michael Popok and you know, you guys had just created legal AF. I think we had like a, we'd be excited if we had a thousand views, you know, uh, on one of our episodes. And I was talking to Popok one day and we were just talking about what you guys are doing and what you created. And, and I said, I would love to be on Legal AF and be a part of this movement with you all because it was so important and it was so unlike what anyone is doing. And I am just so proud and honored to be a part of the Midas Touch Network. And, and I just really can't thank you all enough because the fact that you're now like

buddies, you know, with, with Joe, the fact that not buddies with, but you can get an interview with Joe Biden. So to me, that's like the buddies with, you know, that he'll speak to you guys. I mean, look at where you are and what you've created. And so I just think the Midas Touch Network in general deserves, you know, such a huge, huge credit, frankly, for hopefully saving our democracy ultimately, but certainly getting us to where we are right now and really being the leaders in this area, truly the leaders. There is nobody else. And I just want to say one other thing. We, when we did, we've been doing Legal AF, you know, for what, three, four years now,

and you guys have been doing this pod for a long time. You know, we've all been doing it. And for people who don't know, we all have other jobs, you know, especially back then we did. And this is like, you know, kind of something that we did or we do sometimes, you know, on the side because we care about democracy. We care about this, whatever. And you put in a lot of work, you know, and it is a lot of work. And sometimes it's not fun. And sometimes it's really hard. And, you know, Ben did it in the middle of his wedding, you know, and I mean, we, you know, you just, you do it all the time. And I just want to say, it's amazing to me to see how the rest of the world now is all doing the same thing, right? How many podcasts are there that do exactly what, what you've been doing and what we've been doing for

what, you know, three years now, how many, you know, it's, it's, I think everyone, including the legacy media is, is, is absolutely doing our model and is valuing authenticity over glossiness. And that's what I love about Midas so much is it's all about authenticity. It's not about, you know, sometimes we have like a dog barking in the background or so, you know, no, but it's true. It's not, it's not, you know, the old model is, is one that depends on, you know, expensive sponsorships and, you know, to keep it going because it has to be perfect and glossy. And what I love about you guys and what we've created, and I don't want to say we because

it's you. I mean, this is all the three of you that you have created this. And I'm just following along and loving every second of it and feel so lucky to be a part of it. But, you know, just how it's all authenticity, right? It's all just about the real, you know, the fact that like I can do it from, you know, a train or I could do it from a taxi cab, whatever. And people are very gracious about it because I think they know we're just trying to bring them the truth.

And it's all about the truth. And you know what? Today, what was really validating for me today is, number one, I'm just so proud of my old office. I can't even tell you how incredibly proud I am. You know, it's just a little state prosecutor's office, you know, and every once in a while you have like the people who are former feds, you know, they kind of look down on us, you know, just cute little state prosecutor over there. And I am just so proud of our office that my old office, not my office anymore, but you know, my office

of 30 years, I'm just so proud that they always have done the hard cases, the cases that are not political. It's all about the truth. And, you know, frankly, the truth matters and the truth means something in this country. And, and Donald Trump kind of gaslights the world by making it seem like the truth doesn't matter. You know, he comes out and he says things that are just the polar opposite of what is the actual truth. And really what meant a lot today and this verdict was it really validated that the truth actually matters. And so anyway, I wanted to just because a lot a lot of people are congratulating a lot

of, you know, the prosecution and everybody else. But I wanted to just take a minute and I appreciate you letting me do this just to really acknowledge you guys for creating the Midas Touch Network and bringing together a community of almost 3 million people who you've really, really, I think, changed the world in a big way. So thank you all. Well, that is high praise coming from you, Karen. And it is we. You are an essential part of this. And that's why we were so thrilled to launch the new show, Mistrial, with you and Donya Perry and Kathleen Rice. Make sure you subscribe to this on the audio podcast,

folks. It's on Apple right now. It's on Spotify. It should be basically anywhere you find podcasts. It's M-I-S-S-T-R-I-A-L, all one word, the newest addition to the Midas Touch Network. We had our premiere episode on YouTube last night, which is absolutely crushing it out of the gate. The reception has been here. One of the things I found interesting during this trial was the constant reading of tea leaves by pundits and by people online and whatnot. And one of the biggest points of conversation in these past few days was the elusive jury notes, when the jury would ring and they say, the jury has a note. And we would hear what these jury notes were. We heard that they wanted to learn more about the David Pecker testimony. They wanted to learn more about Michael Cohen's testimony in the Trump Tower meeting. At one point, they requested headphones so they could listen to something. And people were speculating about what a lot of these things meant at the time. Now, after the verdict, reflecting on these jury notes, what do you think was possibly going

through the jury's mind when they were requesting those pieces of evidence? I think that's a great question. And I thought a lot about it. I think they were really, they took their job seriously, which is thinking that the prosecution has the burden and the only burden to, first of all, it's clear they absolutely rejected that ridiculous Bob Costello defense and the defense saying, you could have called Eric Trump, you could have called Don Jr. I'm sorry. Those people would have testified for you, Mr. Todd Blanche, if they had something good to say. You don't think your client would have said, okay, sons, get up there and say something,

or Allen Weisselberg or Keith Schiller. you know, they chose to put on a defense and they chose to, uh, that that's what they chose. They chose to put Bob Costello that totally backfired and blew up in their face. And I think the defense here, uh, was really, and I hate to, I hate to Monday morning quarterback this, but, but I really don't think they, um, they, think they, I think there was a case here that the defense had a chance of winning and they just totally did not try this case properly. I mean, thankfully, because now he's convicted and because there were weaknesses in the case, like there are any case, but they absolutely did not put on a good trial, in my opinion, if I were criticizing the defense. But what they did then

was the jury, so they totally rejected the defense, what the defense said, and was like, okay, that makes no sense what they did. But let me, I still, it doesn't matter, I can reject the defense, but I still have to, the prosecution still has to meet their burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt because they can reject the defense and then look at the prosecution's case and say, oh, but they still haven't proven their case beyond a reasonable doubt and still have to vote not guilty. So I think, I think that what they did was they looked at, uh, they took what the, the prosecution's theory, uh, Josh Stein glass's theory of the case, which was Michael Cohen is corroborated. He provided the roadmap, he provided context, he provided color, and we recognize that in the past he had some credibility issues. and as a result of acknowledging that, that gave them a lot of credibility to the jury too,

but said, look, everything he said is corroborated and this is all the corroboration. For example, all the documents and that, all the phone records and all the text messages and all that, the way this was tried by Josh Steinglass and Susan Hoffinger and others in that office was just masterful because they pre-corroborated Michael Cohen so that as he was testifying in a linear chronological way, they could just hand him the things that were already in evidence that corroborated every detail of what he was saying. So it was like it was like words with proof, words with proof, words with proof.

It wasn't like disjointed in any way. And that was just such a brilliant way to do it because he was corroborated the whole way, but he was also corroborated by the words of David Pecker. And David Pecker was the first witness. It was like five weeks between when Pecker and Cohen testified. So I'm not surprised that they wanted Pecker's readback of where Pecker corroborated Michael Cohen. And what they wanted was the part of Pecker's testimony where Donald Trump essentially deputized Michael Cohen to be the guy to negotiate with. And that's what Pecker said. So that every time Michael Cohen dealt with David Pecker, and one of the questions was Trump didn't know. Well, guess what?

There's the testimony that says, talk to Michael. Michael is the one who's going to be doing this and arranging that. And I think that really what they wanted to remember that and hear that because there was so much time between that testimony and Michael Cohen. I'm not surprised they didn't ask to hear about Stormy Daniels because it didn't matter, right? Stormy Daniels, whether or not they had sex was irrelevant, right? It was clear that they paid her off and you can't deny that. And so why Todd Blanch spent any time saying that didn't happen in summation? Waste of time. And also he lost all credibility there because no one in their right mind would believe that Donald Trump is paying $130,000 times three because it's grossed up to $420,000. No one believes that he's going to pay that because she's standing next to him at a golf course in a picture. So he lost all credibility

with everything he argued, everything he said, and they didn't bother with it in their jury notes, right? And there's some in their deliberations, all they needed to deal with was really that piece of it. Once they got it, they saw it, then they went through each and every count and they with care to make sure that that burden of, you know, the beyond a reasonable doubt was proven for each of them. And they found it was there for all 34. I mean, just it's an absolute resounding, resounding affirmation and validation of the prosecution's theory that this was an election interference case. And it's really important. And and it happened. And Trump is guilty. Trump's lawyer, Todd Blanche, doing his right-wing media tour, his wine fest, W-H-I, and whining fest on Fox and other networks saying that this was unfair, that they didn't get a fair trial,

complaining and whining over and over again. Karen, I want to say this. You were at my wedding, so you saw me cry during the dance I did with my mom. People keep making me cry again, so you were very close to getting those tears out of me when you said all of those great things. It's an honor to co-host this with you. It's an honor to have you on this network. It's an honor to have you on this network. It's an honor to launch the Mistrial show. Everybody make sure you subscribe to Mistrial wherever audio podcasts are available. Just search Mistrial. And then I also want to give a shout out, of course, to the we being also all of you

who are watching and listening to this, the Midas Mighty out there. This is a true community beyond being a network and our community first approach. What you all have done for me watching this has been like, I'm just as much of a member of this community as you all are who are watching and listening to this. So thank you for all creating this Midas Mighty community. And it's great that we can be messengers in this community, but you as messengers are just as important where you share this knowledge,

share the network, let people know the facts because facts matter. And when we see why Donald Trump so hates courtrooms and our legal system, it's because you don't have Fox. You don't have the right-wing propaganda machine and the lies and the corporate media, both sides and the hearsay and all of that. You have to deal with reality and you have to be in an evidence-based world. There was once a time where our fourth estate, the media, actually cared about evidence and facts and presenting it in a certain way. And then they're so focused on the horse race and the both sides-isms or the straight-up propaganda that they've lost their way. And we've been able to build this platform together. Karen, I know you wanted to say one last thing before you were going to go,

but we have a lot more coverage here on the Midas Touch Network. Let me pass it to you, Karen. Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know how when you graduate and you go to graduation and you have the tassel and then at the time of graduation, you move from one slide to another.

I feel like we went from, for all this time, it was convict 45. And now today, officially, we can move over to convict 45. Yes. And by the way, that's at store.midastouch.com. We also, Karen, as you know, our merch was prominently featured as an exhibit in the Trump criminal trial. What a world. During the cross-examination of Michael Cohen, our merch was prominently featured.

And they were saying, isn't this the merch store that you own, Mr. Cohen? And Michael Cohen was like, no, that's the Midas Touch merch store. But isn't this your mug? No, that's MidasTouch.com. That's the Midas Touch merch store. That's not what that is. But anyway, you can actually get the exhibit now. I mean, we had it for sale before as well at store.midastouch.com. One more time, that's store.midastouch.com, the Mar-a-Lardo Correctional Facility and the Convict 45, and they send them to the big house. You search mea culpa to get to the exhibit shirt, the jury exhibit shirt, in case folks are looking for that. It's amazing.

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what a night. Let's take a look at the Alvin Bragg press conference from following the verdict. There was really three main points that Alvin Bragg talked about. He said, look, we're going to speak through our filings here. This isn't like the Trump-MAGA

show. By the way, Trump and MAGA are out there on Fox right now saying things that would probably make Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un blush. They're out there right now saying just some of the most deranged, overtly fascist, crazy things right now. And we'll try to bring you some of those. Although I want to focus less on that right now. I want to focus on what District Attorney Alvin Bragg said, and maybe in a little bit, I want to talk about the types of things that President Biden said as well in Pennsylvania, in the Commonwealth, because I think we shouldn't forget that there's a normal guy in the White House who's doing a pretty good job

actually doing things that like it's a good point right that like well while you've got one guy convicted on 34 felony counts for making hush money payments and falsifying business records regarding a porn star who he was cheating on who he was cheating on who he was cheating on with while his wife was pregnant there's like a loving man in the White House who's like very compassionate and like pretty freaking normal who like put legislation together to like do like 40,000 infrastructure projects and who's like done things to protect and preserve social security to lower healthcare costs. Who's like, here's something that happened today, for example, and this probably definitely got

lost in all of the news. I'm sure a lot of people haven't heard this just yet, but the Treasury and the IRS announced something massive today, that direct file, the government system of filing your taxes is here to stay. So they're offering this to all 50 states. They did a trial run with it this tax period for people to file their taxes without having to pay a penny to file your taxes, without having to do any of this complicated kind of turbo tax stuff. And this is a direct file, permanent free option, saving taxpayers time and money. That's just like a very kind of basic governmental thing, making it easier for you to pay your taxes, saving you money, saving you time, making the process easier. That's something that

President Biden implemented today while all this was going on, for example. Over 1 million PACT Act claims processed of veterans who are exposed to things like burn pits, who would not otherwise have gotten healthcare, are getting life-saving healthcare they would have otherwise been deprived of because of President Biden's policies. 40,000 plus infrastructure projects that are going up across the country that MAGA Republicans who are attacking the rule of law are trying to take credit for when they voted against the infrastructure project. So when President Biden goes to Pennsylvania, when he speaks in the Commonwealth, he has a lot of things to actually talk about that he's accomplished, bring the semiconductor industry back. If someone just did one of those

things, it would be a historic administration. But I just want to remind people, we'll talk more about the craziness of the felonies and the convictions of Trump and all of this stuff. But I always want to remind people that what government should be about is we the people. Law and order is critical. It is critical that Donald Trump be held accountable. But I want to make sure that we the people, I want to make sure that you watching this and your families and your communities are a priority. With Donald Trump, the priority is only one thing, Donald Trump. That's it. Even above his children. During the criminal trial, one of the things that Donald Trump's lawyers argued in their closing argument is why

didn't the prosecution call Donald Trump's kids? Trump paraded his kids into the criminal trial to have his criminal defense lawyer throw the kids under the bus at his own criminal defense trial and argue that the prosecution should have called Eric and Don Jr. because their names appeared in the documents. Trump cares about Trump and he will lie, cheat, steal, and commit crimes and overthrow our democracy if it benefits him. And he's exploited this oligarchical instinct of millionaires and decamillionaires and billionaires here, a corporate media that's owned by billionaires and decamillionaires who want tax cuts over democracy, who both sides crap or just become outright propagandists.

And that's why in addition to the verdict of guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, I won't do it all again, the 34 times, I think this criminal trial also has a verdict against corporate media. And that verdict is an F. Y'all failed. Looking at you, corporate media, F. Failure. Looking at you, corporate media, F, failure, because y'all tried to push the same narratives that you push over and over again with the polls, with the red wave. You tried to red wave us.

It's like red pill, right? us in the criminal trial and say, oh my God, the case fell apart. Michael Cohen, this was the worst. This was the worst thing ever. Why'd the prosecution even bring this case in the first place? It's all over. I mean, if you watch that coverage, you would have been convinced that Donald Trump was going to be acquitted. And then I'm like, look, I don't know what the outcome is going to be. I'm not trying to spread hopium here. I'm like, I hope like y'all like, Ben, what are you talking about? Like, I'm like, the corporate media is making this up and I'm not trying to be like a crazy person on YouTube ranting. They're lying to you. They're liars. You know, and I don't want to be someone who just gets on here and just whines. They're

lying. They're lying. But they were. And we had so many sources in the courtroom saying, hey, Ben, that's not what's happening. That didn't happen the way they said it. It was so weird. But over and over again, that was the narrative they pushed. I said I was going to talk about the prosecutor's press. Ben, they were bringing on Avenatti as a character witness to corporate media. What's going on? It was urgent. And honestly, I would get calls. I got multiple calls and texts from family, friends, after days of court where they'd say, I heard it went really bad for Michael Cohen today.

It's over, huh? And I was like, huh? What do you, where'd you, where'd you get? What are you, like, what are you talking about? Like, I've been covering this all day. Well, CNN said that, uh, there was this big moment. I was like, but that's not what, like, this isn't what happened. It was just, it was so weird. It's so weird. And you know, they're going to shift kind of right to, it's weird. And you know, they're going to shift like now to like, I know, let's tell you how this is amazing for Donald Trump and look at all these donations and like, it's going to be there.

Go to the diner and find the MAGA person that says that now they're dead. I wasn't going to vote for Trump. And now that he's convicted, look, look, it's changed their minds. You know, it's exactly where they're going to go. I mean, look, while all of this was going on, right, they were like, in Donald Trump's rally in Wildwood, New Jersey during the criminal trial, there was 100,000 people there. And we're all like, okay, the entire venue, the location only holds 20,000. It's less than half full.

Why are you reporting, oh, Donald Trump's people told you that? Donald Trump, now the convicted felon. Previously, the Trump organization was and still is a convicted felon. Trump was found liable for lying and making up numbers. You're going to take his numbers when just objectively the venue doesn't hold even 20,000. You're going to go with the number that's four times that or a few weeks before after Biden's fundraiser, the Trump campaign said, we raised $50 million. And then the media reports that or at Donald Trump's Bronx speech, they go, there was 25,000 people when there was like less than 3000 people there and lots of people left during the middle of it. I don't know, maybe the story with the Bronx speech

should have been that Donald Trump called up people on stage who were recently indicted in a 140 count criminal indictment for allegedly being leaders of the crypt gang or the crypts gang in New York who allegedly killed someone and engaged in 12 attempted murders that they're being charged with. And Donald Trump's attempt to get the black vote was bringing these individuals on the stage and saying, ha ha ha, I love your grill. You're going to give me a MAGA grill? I mean, like, what are we talking about? Donald Trump goes to a Chick-fil-A and he sets up these like ridiculous fake stunts with people who work at the Republican Party. And I have to listen to the media go, it looks like Donald Trump has a lot of black support because a woman gave him a hug in a Chick-fil-A. It's like,

do y'all realize, one, how incredibly racist that is to begin with? And number two, how utterly ridiculous it is? Or I don't know, how about Donald Trump just going on stage and talking about the late, great Hannibal Lecter or the just fictional murderers that he calls the late great who eat people? What in the world? Or as someone just put in the chat they go well sure but biden hardly ever goes a bing bing bong swish swish bing bong like donald trump's up there on stage go swishy swishy bing bong swish and i'm watching and and brett it's like the trial coverage the poke all this crap i'm watching it and And I'm like, are y'all seeing this?

It's so weird. Here's the good news about it. I think this opened up a lot of people's eyes. I think this process opened up a lot of people's eyes to this gaslighting that we endure every single day. And this is big news, folks. This is just breaking. We got a statement from Melania Trump. Let's pull this up right here. Oh, no. There's no statement from Melania Trump.

It's a blank for the listeners. I was like, I didn't see anything. Melania Trump who showed up for it. I saw the look on your face like, no way. That's good. Yeah. Well, Melania, who showed up zero times. And we were talking about this the other day. Everyone in the comments is like, wow, I just got trolled so hard. So it's like the new Rickroll.

Our brains. We must be brothers or something. Cause like everything you're saying right now, I'm just in my head right before. That's so funny. So, um, what I was going to say is, you know, Donald Trump also did everything possible to kind of lose the case. Like, I'm not saying he did this purposely, but it reminds me of going back to the Eugene Carroll cases, going back to the other cases before a jury where Donald Trump behaved so just disgusting in front of the jury, like sleeping, mouth drooping, not looking at them, just being a horrific person, bringing in day after day these MAGA Republicans, the Red Tie Brigade to try to intimidate people, bringing in his weird adult kids. None of that possibly could have played well. And he was clearly also dictating this bizarre legal strategy that his lawyers employed, where they could have probably put on a good defense, quite frankly, if they actually wanted to be good lawyers. But instead, they followed the advice of Donald Trump and put people on the stand

like Robert Costello and things like that. I mean, the whole thing is, it's just absolutely just bizarre to watch. And so when we heard that this verdict was in and it was earlier than folks expected, I have to think somewhere that that added to it, right? If you saw a sympathetic character sitting there in that courtroom in Donald Trump, somebody who looked remorseful, somebody who maybe even took the stand in their defense, and I know that's probably not normal in most of himself, if he was a normal human being. But he's not. He would have made it horrific if he did that. And his behavior alone, I think, spoke volumes and maybe even said more than anything he could have said on the stand the way that he was there. Now, I want to go to some of these Alvin Bragg clips because we've been promising that we'd show a bit of Alvin Bragg for the past 20 minutes or so. And so first, let's show Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan DA, after his successful prosecution of Donald Trump, speaking about the work of the everyday jurors who were the ones who made the decision to convict. The 12 everyday jurors vowed to make a decision based on the evidence and the law, and the evidence and the law alone.

Their deliberations led them to a unanimous conclusion, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the defendant, Donald J. Trump, is guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree to conceal a scheme to corrupt the 2016 election. And while this defendant may be unlike any other in American history, we arrived at this trial and ultimately today at this verdict in the same manner as every other case that comes to the courtroom doors, by following the facts and the law and doing so without fear or favor. Alvin Bragg, the first to indict Donald Trump, the first to secure a conviction against Donald Trump. And I remember how many people were so angry at Alvin

Bragg in the beginning of this. I remember when Karen interviewed Alvin Bragg on this very network. And I got to say, some of your comments were not the nicest towards our guest, Alvin Bragg. No one here. Let's be clear. No one, nobody in this room. That's for sure. But anyway. But it's sort of the narrative that Corbin Mee was bringing on early on. And I don't, it's such a good point, Jordy. And once we're able to just show the data and the facts, of course, that interview aged well, you know, not to pat us on the back here, but to show us collective as the entire network and the Midas Mighty who are watching just believe in the truth and democracy, and they just

want the facts and the data and are sick of being gaslit. Jordy, it's such a good point. Jordy, it's such a good point that rather than, I think it's important we understand some of the root causes, which is data-driven. I think a lot of people were watching the narratives that were being fed on other networks that are potentially on cable. These were saying all of these, and they were, these are supposedly trusted news sources who are saying all of these things about Alvin Bragg. So people are reading them and then they feel a certain way. So when Alvin Bragg was on our network and this was way before criminal charges were even filed and Karen was just having like an interview about the processes and procedures of the office, you would have thought

that the interview was with like, uh, like, uh, Ted Cruz. Like, I mean, honestly, like the comments were, I'm not even exaggerating. They were like, lock him up, throw Alvin Bragg in jail. Like they were that level. Like this guy was paid off. With Jack Smith being announced, we brought Karen on here who worked with Jack Smith. Knowledge is power. And there's so many people out there who are so predatory with knowledge and manipulating it and doing things for their own agenda. And it's so important that we all break through that and brett that's why i think in jordy that this verdict i really hope opens up some people's eyes to the level and layer of the

media manipulation that's been out there not just the right-wing propaganda because they're going deep in like it's it's such a sad you see alvin Bragg up there saying, look, this is what we do every day. We actually went about this trial no different than we'd go about any trial, which is true. You know, yes, it was more high profile, but, you know, in terms of how evidence is presented, going through the motions, that's the process and procedure about how you try criminal cases. Falsification of business records cases are tried in Manhattan. Most people don't take it to trial the way Trump did. There's usually earlier guilty pleas when you have all of the documents against you, but this occurs. This is a crime. Crimes get prosecuted. No one is above the law. That used to be what the Republicans used to be like, law and order. Now they're defund the people who they don't like, defund them all, defund the FBI, get rid of law and now, and I'm not going to play the clip, but you have J.D. Vance, a sitting Republican senator, calling now saying, we need to subpoena Judge Merchant.

We need to subpoena Judge Merchant's daughter. They want to harass the judge and harass the judge's daughter because Donald Trump was convicted of crimes that 12 jurors decided on unanimously that he committed. Think about it. Rashad is the new family in the MAGA world right now. That's who they're all turning their eyes on. I mean, they're unbelievably just disloyal people to the country. I mean, Ben, in your entire life, could you imagine that we'd be seeing this from the Republican Party? Never. I mean, you had the criminal trial taking place, but then Donald Trump like bust in these MAGA Republicans

who he dressed up. Like he dressed up these people in these long red ties to look like him. These MAGA Republicans, and they were wearing ties with Donald Trump's face on it. The Speaker of the House, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Maga Mike Johnson, shows up to the trial and he's like, I support the, I live my life by the Bible. So what do you think about hush money payments to porn? I'm not going to get

into it, but the judge's daughter, let's talk about the judge's daughter. The judge's daughter? What are you talking about? Justice Merchant is a respected judge, but they've showed us who they are. And there is this part of America that wants to turn America into Vladimir Putin's Russia. That's what they want. And then they accuse the others of doing it. But these people are for authoritarianism. They're for a Trump dictatorship. It is so utterly strange just to watch it. It's so utterly dangerous. By the way, I'm so excited. I see that there's been so many people over the past hour who have joined patreon.com slash Midas Touch,

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the discount codes. All right. We've spoken a lot about Trump, loser, convicted felon. You know what I love about the conviction? That the convict 45 gear that we have now has taken on an entirely new meaning. It's now, instead of convict 45, it's now convict 45. So, I mean, it's great. That's what we call future proof in the merch right there. I mean, also, if the verdict turned out differently, it would have been, you know, we, now the fact that it was an exhibit and Trump was convicted, it could have, it could have had negative implications on the merch. Uh, I'm just going to say if, if, if those became an exhibit in the trial, um, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did. I was so sorry. Your name mentioned in the trial by Cohen and asked about by the attorneys and seeing the Midas Touch Network mentioned in the trial transcripts themselves.

I never thought that I would be a trial exhibit or we would have Birch that was a trial exhibit in the first ever felony. That's why I made it personal to me then bringing us up i'm like all right now it's personal now it's our merch store the framing too from and again from corporate media they just ran with it they're like can you believe that michael cohen is selling this merchandise on his website what are you talking do like just a three second google just go to w to Wikipedia for two seconds. What are you doing? Cohen isn't selling it. We're the ones selling diaper down gear.

That's me. Yeah. Exactly. That's my legacy. You can give Cohen credit for being a key witness. I want credit for the store. You guys know how many times I need to record the news to get that tone right? I do that a lot. Do you know how many times I had to do the lock him up to get that tone right? To get that voice? A lot of times. A lot of rehearsals.

I think this verdict also conclusively demonstrated, let me be clear. I think this verdict also conclusively demonstrated that my reporting when I broke the news that when Donald Trump was falling asleep, he was farting on his lawyers is 100% accurate. For those who doubted that reporting, let me be very clear. It was one of the most well-sourced reporting that was out there as well from people we had in the courtroom who were saying that. Yeah. I took personal offense to this as well. Cause I had some people in the media, uh, when I was talking to them, I was like, and they would bring up, somebody was talking about, and I said, you know, we like that, that was our, our, our story. Like our, our sources were the

ones who informed us about that. We confirmed it with multiple other people who we know in the court. And they were like, I heard you made that up. And once again, I was like, based on what, based on why would we do that? Like, that's not what we do here. They're always looking for something. And it always been, what was that? It always backfired. They're always looking and then they're like, tell us your sources or it didn't happen. I'm like, okay, if I tell you my sources- I'm going to do that for all your stories, all right? Let's see how you react. Exactly. Every one of your story where you have sources, I want to know who they are or else I'm saying it's not a real story. Like we know that Donald Trump does it. We know that it was putrid.

We know that he's stinky. We know what was going on in the courtroom. Y'all were not fearless enough to report on it. And we just, we scooped you. Weed you we got fearless you're not fearless i would say that was fearless journalism you wouldn't say we were fearless we went right to anyway let's go talk about the first word that came to my mind it's all fearless they're like how would you describe your reporting i would say fearless would be uh number one by the way if you want to ask me on patreon if you're thinking about joining patreon.com slash Mid way, if you want to ask me on Patreon, if you're thinking about joining patreon.com slash Midas Touch and you want to ask me about that reporting, feel free. That's one of the questions you could ask me. All right. So President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris

got a rock star welcome in Pennsylvania. I want to share with you what that welcome looked like, and then let's talk a little bit about what they said. Let's play this clip. One more year. One more year. One more year. One more year. One more year. 1 million people on their feet cheering for president Biden. And no, that's what Mac would. That's that's what that's what the magma. But in all seriousness, that was an enthusiastic crowd. The screams did kind of sound like screams that you hear like the Beatles at Shea Stadium when you listen back to that footage. That was President Biden and Kamala Harris. They were in Philadelphia on Wednesday, and that was a big event that they had. They were launching a new initiative called Black Voters for Biden-Harris. And I found the speech incredibly inspiring. And I hope that folks are now starting

to tune into events like this. And I hope that President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris are going to do more of this across the country. And I hope the media starts running and picking up a lot of these clips or playing a lot of these rallies live, because this is the stuff that folks really need to be seeing. The Trump stuff, of course, is important. And we cover that obviously a whole lot, but it's important that we also take time to focus on what the Biden campaign is doing, what their messaging is like, how people are reacting to it, what states they're going into, what is their operation, how many field offices are they opening, and really making that contrast between them and what Donald Trump is promising in an authoritarian state is what Donald Trump wants to just completely obliterate the government that we have and replace it with a fascist government and truly lay out the stakes for the American people. But the cheers did not stop there. Here were folks chanting four more years for President Biden once he got up there. Hello, Philadelphia.

Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. It's good. It's good to be. It's good to be almost home. I just live down the road a little bit. Scranton Joe showing his Pennsylvania street cred. I thought this was a particularly poignant moment for President Biden on the stage there in Philadelphia. He was basically describing, saying, what do you think that Donald Trump's response would have been if there was a January type situation that was led by black Americans? And I think this point that he made was incredibly powerful. I'll play it. He calls insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol, patriots, patriots.

If reelected, he wants to pardon, quote, every one of them. Let me ask you, what do you think he would have done on January 6th if black Americans had stormed? Think about this. What do you think would have happened if black Americans had stormed the Capitol? I don't think he'd be talking about pardons. It's the same guy who wanted to tear gas you as you peacefully protested George Floyd's murder, the same guy who still calls the Central Park five guilty, even though they were exonerated. He's that landlord who denies housing applications because of the color of your skin. He's that guy who won't say black lives matter and invokes neo-Nazi Third Reich terms. We all remember Trump is the same guy who unleashed birthism, the birth of the lie against

Barack. And then Trump tells you he's the greatest president. I love this one. He says he's the greatest president of black people in the history of America, including more than Abraham Lincoln. I mean, can you fathom that? Where in the hell? Like I said, I think he injected too much of that bleach in his skin. I think it affected his brain. I think it's important that folks get reminded of this history of Donald Trump, because I feel like too many people, you know, we have short attention spans, right? And I get it. There's a lot going on in the world. But there is so deplorable, to use a word, that is so abhorrent that it's important that we remind folks of these various things that Donald Trump has done in the past. You know, Biden also hit on, Ben, those stereotypes that you were speaking about earlier. He mentioned,

you know, Donald Trump in his own way talked about Donald Trump trying to peddle these stereotypes to win over voters with, you know, Donald Trump selling sneakers, Donald Trump, in his own way, talked about Donald Trump trying to peddle these stereotypes to win over voters with Donald Trump selling sneakers, Donald Trump going into Chick-fil-A's and saying, look, black voters love me, and showing his mugshot and saying, look, black voters love my mugshot. All these things which are so incredibly offensive. You had President Biden highlighting things like that. You also had President Biden highlighting the fact that Donald Trump is a loser and that Donald Trump is pretty deranged, that Donald Trump kind of snapped. He's unhinged. Here's President Biden making that point on Wednesday in Philadelphia. The threat that Trump poses is greater in his second term than his first.

It's clear that when he lost in 2020, something literally snapped in his car. No, I'm serious. That's why January 6th happened, when he unleashed an insurrection. Now he's running again, and he's clearly unhinged. President Biden also speaking about the contrast between him and Donald Trump and rebutting the MAGA lies. You have Donald Trump constantly touting this, that he had the lowest black unemployment during his presidency. In fact, the lowest black unemployment occurred under President Biden's presidency. And President Biden reminded voters of just that. He continues to lie by saying black unemployment was at a

record low on his watch. The fact is record low unemployment happened on my watch. We're going to keep them going. And then moving to policy and things that President Biden has done. President Biden spoke about his initiatives to make sure that no person is jailed for simple marijuana possession, for using marijuana, you know, reminding voters of actual accomplishments that he's done while in office. I'm made in the promised cap. I'm keeping my promises that no one should be in jail merely for using and possessing marijuana. I pardon thousands of people incarcerated for mere possession of marijuana. Thousands. A promise made in the promise cap and further records should be expunged as well, I might add. President Biden talking about the proliferation of MAGA lies and rebutting those MAGA lies.

Let's talk about Trump's MAGA lies. I don't have an hour, but we'll get us heard. Trump takes credit for sending all the pandemic relief checks alone. It's a lie. Truth is, the Congressional Black Caucus got that money passed. President Biden reminding Donald Trump that he is a loser, and with the help of those in the audience there there that they can make him a loser once again. Because you voted, Donald Trump is defeated, former president.

And with your vote, with your vote in 2024, we're going to make Donald Trump a loser again. Then folks in Philadelphia were really excited also to see Vice President Kamala Harris. Vice President Kamala Harris also made the case and touted the administration's accomplishments. And I thought this was an important point to make regarding medical debt and people's credit scores. Once again, like things that actually affect everyday people. I think it's important to remind folks of those sorts of things. We also took on the issue of debt, which makes so many people feel like they can never get ahead. Take, for example, medical debt. We are now making it so medical debt can no longer be included on your credit score. So that medical debt cannot impact the person's ability to get

a car loan, an apartment lease or a home loan. It's just such a contrast when you hear President Biden and Vice President Harris speak. And, you know, I've talked about this a lot that our show is often whiplash, right? Because we try to show the contrast and the reality of what's going on, right? We're not just cherry-picking moments. Like Donald Trump goes out there every day when he does these events or rallies or he goes on these talk shows and says the most insane crap and has the most dangerous promises for what he wants to do to this country. He says it out loud.

He says the kind of things at his rallies and events and on Fox and on Newsmax and on propaganda radio and stuff, where if you saw this in an email that somebody sent from the Trump campaign, people would view it as like the biggest scandal ever, like everything Donald Trump says. But because Donald Trump just blurts it out in his rallies at a stream of consciousness every time and says the most offensive things imaginable, for some reason, it's just like, oh, this is Trump. And then you get the total ignore of President Biden and Vice President Harris actually presenting coherent policies and all the things that they've actually done in the face, by the way, of just complete opposition in the face of these Republicans trying everything imaginable to try to stop them, including investigating him and his family and all of these various things based on absolutely nothing other than this idea of revenge and to try to make it seem like you have Donald Trump and Joe Biden as equal people when they are so not in any way. There is no comparison between these two, and the stakes have never been higher.

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