The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump CRACKS EMERGE After Election…QUICKLY
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At the top of the show, I think it's important that we say happy Veterans Day and acknowledge the service of all of our veterans. You may not know this about me and my brothers, but our grandpa, Grandpa Murray, who's no longer with us, he flew 32 separate missions during World War II, won a Purple Heart. You see the list of his missions
right there. It's why we have our mission to protect, preserve, and defend our democracy here.
It's why our work, your work, is needed more than ever right now. Let's get into it. A lot of people
right now are Googling, can I take my vote back? Project 2025, are mass
deportations really going to happen? Things to buy before tariffs, as we told you. Elon Musk was
saying, we the people will be suffering hardship while they, the billionaires and oligarchs, have
already doubled and tripled their wealth, especially all of those private prisons like
Gio and others who are making tons of money right now at the speculation of mass deportations.
Look, we're on the front lines here, not just of the resistance, but on truly fighting back
and moving forward. I want to share with you, this video has gone viral. Brett, you did a video
about it early in the day. I could probably share with everybody, I would say thousands of videos that I'm now seeing
all over like this, but I think this one is fairly symbolic of the types of videos we're seeing where
individuals who voted basically for Trump and against their family members are now in the find out stage.
Here, let's play this video.
I'm not crying happy tears.
I'm not going to be apologetic for being excited
because if it was the other way around,
all of the Kamala supporters would celebrate.
I want to say that first.
I'm very relieved because I voted what I believe in
and I felt heavy on my heart that it's the right thing. So knowing that it was the decision the
American people made, I'm relieved and I'm very happy. Very, very happy, okay? It's the very first
day of finding out the election results. All of us are happy. I'm very happy, but I'm not going to continue to post about it,
but I'm also not going to be sorry about it.
And,
um,
I always talked about how my family,
sorry,
I don't want to make this more than once.
I always talked about how my family had different beliefs.
My grandma and my mom and my sister
and how we always got along and i wore my grandma's sweater to go low and i
i'm so sorry i'm trying not to cry okay but my heart's broken
try not to cry yeah try it my grandma just sent me a very sad text it broke my heart and my mom has yet to text me back today
my point of making this video is to say that i am very happy and i expressed how happy i was
um and i'm not to be sorry for that.
I'm completely heartbroken that my family is taking it how they are.
I never did this to them when Biden won.
Never.
But.
I am done with political posts from here on out.
It's back to normal.
If you don't like me because of who I voted for and you have to unfollow,
go ahead.
My own,
my own family unsubscribed from my life.
So you can too.
I promise it doesn't get worse than that.
It does get worse than that for we, the people,
and specifically for marginalized communities. And if you want to talk about privilege,
you hear at the end where she goes, okay, back to normal now. Well, it's not going to be back
to normal for the Latinos whose job sites are about to be raided when mass deportation exercises take place.
And nor is it going to be back to normal for literally tens of millions of Americans who
the Trump administration is going to target.
And Ben.
Whereas President Biden tried to uplift.
Brett, Jordy.
Well, here is the, you know, the major, the fundamental difference and the fatal flaw
to her entire argument there. She works in there,
I never did this to my family when Biden won. When you have an election and you have two
different sides of an election and one side results in stripping away the rights of certain
people and the other does not, these are not two equal things. And I
think that is one of the big things. And one of the things that upsets me so much about this election
is that if Vice President Kamala Harris won this election, there's nobody in this country who
should be worried that they are under attack. There's nobody in this country who should be
worried about their personal freedoms, about their future, about where they stand in this country. But with Donald Trump, there are a whole bunch of people who now have to be extremely
worried and have the right to be worried and should be worried about what is going to happen
in the future. And so when you see those tears, imagine how the folks on the receiving end of
Donald Trump's policies feel right now in the wake of this election with the gravity of what we see.
And we're already starting to see, by the way, as Trump assembles his cabinet and the people who
are going to surround him, who are going to be running the show here, we are seeing a reason
why everybody's fears were completely warranted as each day passes here. So it's just such a false
dichotomy that she is presenting right there.
Jordy, how are you doing? What's your take? Yeah. I mean, you look at that and it's just
absurd, right? It's just totally shameless what that person's saying up there on screen. It's
like, check your privilege at the door. I'm just going to go back to posting my regular stuff.
Sorry if you're mad about who I voted for. It's like, hey, to Ben's point exactly,
there are marginalized communities out there right now that can't go to day as usual, who now have to live with the consequences of the
person that's going to be in charge. Utterly, utterly despicable and just a total lack of
self-awareness. Speaking about a lack of self-awareness, what's the term that the
youngsters use these days? Delulue, like delusional. There are still people out there though,
who are within the communities
that are being targeted.
Why is this?
That make me just sound extra.
I love when you,
I love when you connect with the youngsters.
You didn't sound a day over 80 there.
You know how the youngsters are saying
this new phrase they're saying.
They say, the kids say, DeLulu.
DeLulu.
You know what?
Someone else who's DeLulu.
Well, it means delusional.
And I mean, look, when I still see the Latino voter.
Thanks for the definition.
When I see the Latino voters for Trump still, like I saw this interview today on CNN,
where this Latino voter for Trump, he's wearing all of his Trump gear. And he's like, look,
Trump's not going to go after people who are family oriented. There's an exemption.
If you're family oriented, then your abuela and abuelo and tia tia, they are all good because
they're family oriented.
Here, play this clip.
If they let in hundreds of thousands of people who already have criminal records,
if deporting them creates a mass deportation, I'm all for it.
But what if rounded up in all of that are people who work on a farm,
doing the jobs that Americans don't want to do?
Does that worry you?
That wouldn't be fair.
Of course, you know, they need to make sure that they don't throw away,
they don't kick out, they don't deport people that are family-oriented.
Their literal plan is to deport anybody who is here,
number one, who doesn't have papers,
number two, who may have some temporary legal status or some legal status,
but they don't view as citizens. And then three, they're going to denaturalize people who are
already citizens, but who became citizens by way of birth in the United States. And that's one of
their procedures that they want to go through.
Just take a look at what Charlie Kirk posted moments ago. He says, Tom Homan,
so let's be clear just to rewind briefly. So today, Donald Trump nominated, not nominated,
appointed. I think Donald Trump's not going to do nomination processes. And well, we'll talk about that in a bit as well.
But he declared that Tom Homan is his border czar.
Tom Homan previously ran ICE.
Tom Homan was the person who came up with the family separation policies.
And over the past three and a half years, Tom Homan was the person who talked about
bloody mass deportation exercises.
And he's used word to the effect, if you saw what we did back with the family separations in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020,
you're not even going to believe, direct quote, the shit we're going to do if Trump gets back
in power. So this is one of the first people Donald Trump picked, Tom Homan. And already
today, Tom Homan's talking about going into workplaces and rounding up people in their places of work.
And let's take a look at what Charlie Kirk said.
By the way, family people, too, people who are here for 30 years.
Let us be clear.
There's no family man exemption to this policy.
OK, there there ain't no exemption.
I'm not sure where that guy who is wearing the disease wearing it.
For those who are listening, he's wearing a hat that has Donald Trump's hair attached to the top of it.
So he is like full on Trump fan boy, uh, saying that he's not concerned that his relatives are
going to be deported because they're good family people and he's not going to deport good family
people. Well, that's certainly not what the people who Trump, that's not what Trump says. That's not what the people who are surrounding Trump are saying.
And I think one of the clearest, you know, instances or, or one of the clearest examples
of how far Trump and his acolytes are willing to go now that they're going to have power
is that infamous Stephen Miller post that we have seen recently, where he said he was going to quote,
turbocharge, turbocharge denaturalization in 2025. Turbocharge it. Denaturalization is the process
of stripping away the citizenship from people who have acquired citizenship in this country.
So even if you're like, oh, I'm legal, It's not going to affect me. I'm here legally.
I'm naturalized.
I'm good.
No, you're not good.
And Donald Trump on the campaign trail has already said time and time and time again
that he is willing to go to groups that he doesn't like, to people he doesn't like,
and strip away their citizenship.
He has called those Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, who are there legally.
He has called them illegal.
This is what he has done throughout the country.
People who are here legally, they want to do these bloody mass deportations, kick them out, or throw them in these private prisons.
Ben, what did Charlie Kirk have to say?
Charlie Kirk says Tom Homan announces he will begin workplace immigration rates.
Let's just be clear what that means though. That means exactly the
questions that were asked to that Latino Trump voter, right? You're in the farm, you're in the
factory, you're on a construction site, right? You are contributing to the economy. You are working
your ass off in jobs that Americans are not doing for far less money than Americans would
do it at as well, or Americans not do them at all, so you can support your family, then ICE
or the military or the National Guard rolls up on you at your work site while you're building
things, building infrastructure projects, bridges, while you're picking crops that we all
rely on for both consumption here and for exporting. You're contributing to the economy
working. Work, right? Look at it. Workplace, immigration, workplace. And we're ripping people
out, throwing them into cages, and then throwing them into countries that they may not even live in, right?
I mean, one of the things that Donald Trump says he was going to throw the Haitians back to Venezuela, like to just totally different countries.
Let's keep reading, though, what Charlie Kirk is saying. Get out of our country now. It will save us time and energy and also spare you the humiliation.
The days of gaming America's immigration system with impunity are over. Get out. It's also
notable that he uses the word humiliation. As part of this, they're going to denigrate human beings, treat human beings
the way we saw photographs of American military in Abu Ghraib, like Iraq. We're not just going
to deport you, the Trumps say, we're going to humiliate you. And that's the message to that
Latino Trump supporter. It's basically a message to you. So let's a message to that Latino Trump supporter. It's like basically a message to you.
So let's be very clear, okay? Nobody on this podcast and nobody who I know supports
criminals or terrorists being here illegally. Number one, undisputed fact, no one's rooting
for, oh, let's bring in those criminal, let's bring in the cartels.
No, they should be removed right away. They're criminals, they should be out. The full force
of law, get them out, get terrorists out, get cartels out, get criminals out. Undisputed fact
number two, there's actually been less border crossings right now under Biden than under the
Trump administration. You know when all of a
sudden immigration basically fell to like nothing under Trump? The same time gas fell to nothing.
You know when that was? During COVID, when there was a mass pandemic, a mass casualty event where
Donald Trump mishandled it. So tens of thousands of people were literally dying in ventilators
every day because no one knew what the hell to do while they had Trump locked down.
So actually, the situation, it was better right now.
And three, let me give you an undisputed fact.
Let me give you the economic argument here, because, you know, I know that like no one wants to talk about this because it's been so tainted. But let's be clear. Immigrants, migrants play a major part in our
economy, whether you like that or not. They contribute. When you do workplace raids,
guess what? That means they are working at places and you're going to raid the work,
remove the workers from what? The farms? How are the farmers going to get by when they're
relying on this labor? The factories, how are they going to get by without the labor? How is anyone
going to get by? And what do you think that's going to do to the price of goods? First off,
what is it going to cost you for this mass deportation event? quite literally tens of billions of dollars every day. So bye-bye to
your health care, right? So that the government can spend its money sending the military to do
workplace raids rather than help you get an education, help you get health care, lower your
prescription drug prices, function like a government, do things like bring Wi-Fi,
build infrastructure. No, government resources, conducting workplace raids, removing the labor,
meaning that the price of goods is going to go up dramatically. Remember those $8 trillion deficit
projections that we were telling you about Donald Trump? That's what it was last time under Trump. Under the best
case scenario, it was $8 trillion being added to the debt. Under, I think, the accurate scenarios,
if you do this, I think it'll be like $25 to $30 trillion in debt. And you go, well, Ben,
at the highest end, they said 12 to 15, not eight. Really? You don't think Donald Trump's
going to increase the debt like he
did in every other business that he's ever done and run it up like crazy and these Republicans
are going to do that? Let me show you another data point of Tom Homan. I want you to watch
the smugness. This is truly an evil person. So to that Latino voter right there wearing the Trump
hair and the stupid Trump hat going,
they're not coming after me.
Charlie Kirk, who's one of Trump's inner circle, he's saying he's coming after.
What do you need to happen?
Do you think that Latino voter for Trump is going to be deported, ripped apart from his family?
You think he's going to be so brainwashed that he'll be going back there?
But it didn't happen to me.
I'm good.
Let me just show you this AOC clip right here.
We played it in other videos.
Here she is when she was questioning Tom Holman.
He's one of the authors of Project 2025, and this was at a congressional hearing where Tom Holman, again, like his cagey way, he was like trying to avoid saying that he
was for family separation, even though it was his policy. And then like he admits it in a smug way.
Here, watch this. You're not the author, but you signed the memo. Yes. A zero tolerance memo.
So you provided the official recommendation to Secretary Nielsen on family for the United States
to pursue family separation. I gave Secretary Nielsen on family, for the United States to pursue family separation.
I gave Secretary Nielsen numerous recommendations on how to secure the border and save lives.
But it says here that you gave her numerous options, but the recommendation was option three, family separation.
What I'm saying, this is not the only paper where we've given the Secretary numerous options to secure the border and save lives.
And so the recommendation of the many that you recommended, you recommended family separation.
I recommended zero tolerance. Which includes family separation.
The same as is with every U.S. citizen parent gets arrested when they're with a child.
Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children from their parents.
If I get arrested for DUI and I have a young child in a car, I'm going to be separated.
When I was a police officer in New York and I arrested a father for domestic violence,
I separated that father from his family.
Mr. Holman, with all due respect, legal asylees are not charged with any crime.
When you're in the country illegally, it's violation 8 United States Code 1325.
Seeking asylum is legal.
If you want to seek asylum and go through the port of entry, do it the legal way.
The Attorney General of the United States has made that clear.
Okay.
Brett.
Yeah, you know, we're at a situation right now and it's, it's, it's tough. And one of
the things that makes it extremely tough is that all of us also have to endure all the consequences
of this election of, of whatever happens. Um, unfortunately, you know, I, there's part of me
that thinks that it's the only way for some of these folks who voted for Trump to realize kind of what they've
done. And I don't say that facetiously and I don't say that with glee by any means.
But I think people have short memories. They voted for Trump the first time in 2016
under similar circumstances, similar reasonings. What's the worst that could happen? This guy's
not part of the establishment. He's a businessman. Look, he's silly. He's on TV. He's not going to
come after me. And then what happened? We had demonstrations in the street all the time.
Donald Trump would always go to his worst instincts. People were harmed and it all culminated with the COVID crisis,
with the COVID pandemic that Trump completely ignored, mismanaged, which is honestly me being
kind by calling that mismanaged, leading to more than a million people dying. And those are the
consequences of putting somebody so just willfully unprepared and unfit for the job and with all these dangerous
ideas in the office.
And unfortunately, it may take a little bit of pain for some of these people to realize,
oh crap, I messed up.
Oh yeah, that's why I didn't like him.
That's why I made sure to vote against him in 2020. But here we are again, where people are, to use Ben's words,
delulu, and they are thinking that somehow this time will be different.
It's a new tone.
He's a changed guy.
I assure you, it's not.
It's not a new tone.
It's not a changed guy.
Now the guardrails are off, and he's going to continue to bring in
the most insane people to be around him at all times.
And Tom Homan is an example of that. Seeing Stephen Miller was one of his first appointments,
if you will, was an example of that. These are like the world's worst people who are openly
saying that they want to do the world's worst things, who are being put in positions of power
without guardrails with a Republican party who controls all the other levers of the government saying that they also want to do everything they can to
please Donald Trump imaginable, what do you think is going to happen?
It doesn't take a psychic, I'll tell you that.
And then thinking back, just listening to that Latino man talking about why he decided
to vote for Trump and how he could just be so blind
to the fact that they're not going to come for him.
Right. Like where else in history have we heard?
First, they came for this group. I didn't speak out.
Then they came for this group. I didn't speak out.
It's very much on display in real time.
And that clip part of me genuinely actually feels bad that you could be so
naive and tricked into believing that they're not going
to target you.
Where clear as day, we've seen it's a community that is definitely under attack by this administration, no matter the status of the person at this point.
Jordy, the only difference though is in that old, very dark but famous expression of,
first they came for this group and I wasn't a part of this group, so I didn't do anything.
Then they came for that group and I wasn't a part of that group. Then they came for this group and I wasn't a part of this group, so I didn't do anything. Then they came for that group and I wasn't a part of that group. Then they came for
this group. I wasn't a part. And then they came for me. In this example, Donald Trump and his
inner circle have said, we are coming for you. We're coming for you. We're coming for you.
And then their response is, no, they're not coming for me.
I'm like, here's the videotape of them saying that they're actually coming for you.
Yeah, but I'm family.
I'm a family man.
So they're not coming for you. He's saying you, other than literally saying your name, he's literally describing you and
you're wearing a stupid Trump hat with a fake Trump wig.
What is going on in that mind of yours?
And look, whether it's because of COVID, social media, people's inability to interact in society
anymore, whether you want to call it like brain worms or fried mush brains. I don't, hello, like what is going on in there? Because
it literally feels so obvious. And yet you try to have these conversations with people.
And it's like kind of speaking with like humans who are like, almost look like they're taken over
and programmed with some like robotic AI. That's like, hello, could you please let me make,
is anything working in there? And I'm not trying to be rude or demeaning, but when they say,
we're coming for your group, get out. You're going to be humiliated by us. We're coming for
your family. And you're like, they're not coming for me. It's an odd, and by the way, it's not unique to that Latino male there.
You know, you can go through various different groups and then say, but you realize that
means they're taking your land.
That means they're going to ban you.
That means they're going to control your body.
That means you're going to have student loans increasing.
That means inflation is actually going to go up based on those policies. That means
that like literally you go through all these people and they're like, yeah, but not me.
Anyway, there's a lot to talk about. I also want to talk about though, when we get back from the
break, I got to talk about where's the democratic leadership right now? Seriously, this is not the
Midas Touch Network's not the pity party network. We're the
get stuff done network. And don't get me wrong. I see some governors. I see Josh Shapiro. I see
Pritzker. I see Gavin Newsom and some others. I see some signs of life, some signs of leadership.
But what in the world are you doing right now? Step know, step up, man up, person up, whatever up, get up and do something about it.
What are you doing right now?
What's the silence?
It's pissing me off.
We'll be right back from our first quick break.
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And shout out to you, The Mightiest Mighty. Look, my brothers and I might not be a total shocker.
We're big data guys, big analytic guys. And to see this community continue to double down in
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I love this community so much. Let me make an observation though, because when Donald Trump was found liable for sexual assault,
indicted multiple times, criminally convicted on 34 separate felony counts,
the MAGA Republicans not only stuck with him every step of the way,
but had the most relentless propaganda campaign filled with lie after lie after lie. It didn't matter to them.
On the other hand, with President Biden, somebody who actually did a bunch of incredible things,
someone who you don't have to propagandize for, you literally just have to tell the story,
right? I mean, President Biden's leadership was
able, competent, capable. I remember that Time Magazine cover of the disaster President Biden
inherited. We all knew he was going to inherit an absolute disaster. The stock market crashed.
We were basically in a depression, a mass casualty event. The economy was crap. Trump added $8 trillion in
debt. I mean, literally every metric, every single one was terrible. Then Donald Trump refused to do
a peaceful transition of power, led an insurrection, refused to coordinate and even
tell President Biden what the deals were, what the resources were, refused utterly.
But there we were, and here we are.
Just take a look at these stats, these stats of Joe Biden's economy, for example, with
unemployment at all-time lows, jobs created $16 million, inflation now very normal when
it was caused by post-COVID and COVID behavior as a result of Donald Trump's
mishandling. When you add $8 trillion in debt, when you don't do things like the CHIPS Act or
the Infrastructure Act, and you don't shore up your supply lines, and you recklessly print money
with no accountability as Donald Trump did, that causes inflation. And it's not like all of a
sudden inflation starts. The policies have to take time to kick in, right? Like we were still
under the regime of Donald Trump's billionaire tax cuts that he couldn't pay for or refuse to pay for
when Biden was in office. And Biden has to basically move this massive sinking ship in another direction.
Did it ably and look, the GDP, 3% growth, average pay, wages are up. Manufacturing boom, stock market
at all time highs, oil production at oil highs. America was energy independent. So I mean, for me, whereas the MAGAs were propagandizing
the most awful human being and doing the most awful things every day, no matter what it was,
the fact that Democrats cannibalize themselves and continue at this moment to do the blame game.
Every day there's a leak. It's this person's fault. It's
that person's fault. It's your fault. It's this person's fault. But I proposed this,
but I said that versus you got to show leadership during moments like this.
A lot of people wanted to write op-eds and they were doing touchdown dances when they got Biden to leave. A lot of people out there
were trying to claim their brilliance, but now is when leadership is needed, not the blame game.
And look, we're going to use our platform to do everything we can do here. That's bring attention
to issues. We've got a great team of lawyers who can also outline
legal strategies. We can try to warn people as best as we can if there are going to be raids
in specific areas. We could continue to motivate this massive community to get out accurate
information and to push back against encroaching fascism. And that's what we pledged to do. But also we have to have
leadership within the party that is standing up and actually standing for and standing behind the
record. Look, lots of people's lives are complicated. People are working lots of jobs and people have
lots of issues in their lives. So you can't just expect that you can do infrastructure, you can do
inflation reduction, you can do the CHIPS Act, you can do the PAC Act, you can do infrastructure, you can do inflation reduction, you can do
the CHIPS Act, you can do the PAC Act, you can do all of these things and people automatically
understand and get it.
When you look at some of this exit poll data and information, it's shocking in ways that
if you go fully down that rabbit hole at how shocking it is, it's beneath depressing sometimes
how people ultimately
make snap decisions. But what's clear is you have to be relentless in your messaging. But what was
so obvious for Democrats is that your messaging met the moment because one of the issues that we
saw here was the economy, the economy, the economy, right? That's what was over and over again.
What President Biden was so brilliant about was recognizing the economy, the economy,
the economy. That's why he did infrastructure. That's why he did inflation reduction, right?
That's why he did bottom up, middle out. That's why he was on the picket lines.
So why is it then that people, going back to a theme we said,
are voting against their interests? Because at some point, one of the main lessons,
and this isn't the blame game show, you have to be a team player and support the messaging.
Look, President Biden would maybe not like to admit this, but in President Biden's age, he's not the same debater he once was.
You go back and look at President Biden's speeches from the 80s and the 90s and the 2000s, he was a great orator. He was one of the best debaters. But guess what? In his 80s,
I hope in my 80s, I could be half the debater that President Biden was, but his skill set wasn't that.
His skill set was using the age and using the wisdom in a way to build and cultivate and not destroy.
So the one main lesson that I urge our party, but I urge just anybody who cares about our country. You have to help with the
messaging. Not to lie, not to propagandize, but to literally give the facts because the facts were
actually great. Not whine and complain about somebody's age or be ageist.
Let me add this if I can. You also have to know where to direct people's anger, right?
Because people are naturally going to be angry about certain things because things are never
going to be perfect ever, ever, ever.
Even in the best economy, the best ever, things aren't going to be perfect.
But Chris Hayes said something on Blue Sky today.
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Midas Touch is on there. I am on there at Be My Cellist. Jordy, you're on blue sky. If now, if anybody else is on blue sky, give us a follow Midas touches on there.
I'm on there at be my sellers, Jordy, you're on there, right? Ben, I think he still needed
to count, right? People are asking for you. There's a whole, a whole, whole demand for Ben
on, on blue sky. But Chris Hayes said the following, he wrote, here's one of my main
takeaways. The point of governing is to make people's lives better. But the point of politics,
especially campaigns is to give people a story about who to blame for things sucking.
It's a real mistake to confuse one for the other, as I have often done. And I totally see what Hayes
is saying there, because what Trump was able to do effectively, I think, and what these Republicans
were able to do effectively, is they were able to play to people's grievances about issues that
gone wrong. Quite frankly, issues that Donald Trump caused, nearly all of these issues that gone wrong, quite frankly, issues that Donald Trump caused, nearly all of
these issues that happened. And some of them were global phenomenons like inflation that impacted
every single country in the world. But Democrats had a great story to tell. Out of every country
in the world, you know who handled this crisis the best, quite literally the best, number one,
number one in the world, USA, the United States of America and the Biden-Harris administration.
But I think sometimes in this quest to defend the policies, defend the CHIPS Act, defend the Infrastructure Act, I think sometimes the message can get muddied because people get a
little bit too nuanced in their language. And so on the one hand, you have Democrats saying,
things could be getting better, but actually we've done a lot and look at these
plans, but yeah, and while that may be technically correct when that's your message and the other
side is just going lower taxes, build the wall, just easy phrases that people could latch onto.
We're going to stick it to China. And who do you think is going to basically affect the median
voter the most who is looking for that simple message to who do you think is going to basically affect the median voter the
most who is looking for that simple message to resonate with? Are they going to go to the nuanced
message that's technically accurate? Or are they going to go to this, you know, very direct,
kind of, you know, straight to the point message, even if it's total BS. And unfortunately,
we saw people gravitate towards that message. I think it's just a lesson
going forward that, you know, that Democrats and everybody needs to take. But while president
Biden was accomplishing all these things, I think, you know, we needed a whole lot of other folks
instead of yelling about president Biden's age to be spiking the football in that way,
every single day, going out there saying you want lower taxes. Guess what? We're giving you lower taxes.
You want the wealthy to pay more. Guess what? President Biden is making the wealthy pay more.
You wanted student loans. Guess what? We did it. You know who's making your life worse?
Put the blame on the right people. You know who's making your life worse? You know who wants to take
away your student loans? The Republicans, Donald Trump. They want to take it away from you and just
be that
simple with it every step of the way. Instead, you get this infighting, you get these muddy messages,
and it just drives me crazy because then you look at these exit polls and you look at people like
that individual we showed in the video earlier and the things they say, you're just like,
I can't even wrap my head around, but fundamentally, I think there is, we've been in this cycle now for what? For, oh man, maybe a couple decades at this point of election, obviously. That was an election against the establishment. President Obama, he was the nominee. He won. He was an eight-year,
two-term president. Donald Trump, very different figure, but he was viewed as anti-establishment.
He came to power. I think with President Biden, I think folks actually wanted a return and a
strengthening of our institutions after Donald Trump. And they
realized that was a big mistake. We need to go back to these American values. We need to be
protected. They go back to President Biden. Then four years go away and people are going,
I want to change again. I want to change. And then they had the one candidate who was fighting
for horrific change, but change nonetheless to blow up the entire system that
they perceived as going against them in certain ways, even though once again, best in the world
managing a post-pandemic time. But they picked the candidate who said, you know what,
screw these institutions. We want to blow it all up. We want to change. And I think there's a way
though that when the Democrats figure out how to recalibrate here and people who are pro-democracy want to recalibrate here, that you could position
yourself as a candidate of change, as an exciting candidate, as somebody who speaks to people's
fears, someone who speaks to people's grievances, but does it in a way that sticks to the value,
sticks to protecting these communities, sticks to protecting the unions, the middle-class,
healthcare, and all these things. I mean, it's very possible. And also one of my other issues
with kind of all these postmortems that people do on these elections is that first off, there's not
like one person in power who could be like, okay, and so it is. Now we're going to apply all these
things that everyone says. Also everybody's postmortems just miraculously, coincidentally,
always align with their priors,
always align. If you're the person who thought that Gaza was going to decide this election,
your reasoning for why Kamala lost was because she was too friendly to Israel.
If you're on the opposite side, your reasoning is the opposite. If you think one way, you think she
wasn't helpful enough to the middle class. If you
are coming from another side, she was too much about unions in the middle class.
It's like everyone somehow finds a way to have this confirmation bias of their own ideas by
looking at the election. And so a lot of that simply is not helpful for me. But what I want
to look for right now is just where are these leaders? Are they going to step up? What the heck is going on with the silence? I am just amazed that we haven't seen a forceful speech
from any real democratic leader. We saw President Biden speak at Arlington today.
I thought that was great. It was nice to see him and him to speak up for our values. But where is
the next leader of the party? Where is he or she coming from? He or she could speak out at any time right now, and we are waiting, the people are waiting,
and the people want a positive message to look forward, a message of hope, yes, a message of joy,
yes, and a message of change and a message of how are we going to fix all of this? Where are they?
Where are they? I think that's a great point. Where are they? Why aren't they
speaking up right now? Again, I am grateful for our platform here on the Midas Touch Network.
I am glad that we're still a top three YouTube channel in the United States of America. I'm
glad that we have this voice and I hope we could be a calming, reassuring, and productive voice.
And there are other independent media hosts as well, but there's got to be leadership
institutionally within the party of somebody who's stepping up and saying, here's the direction,
here's where we're going, here's why we're going there. I haven't seen that right now.
It's disappointing. And we'll talk about that and more because on the other hand, you've got Vladimir Putin putting Donald Trump through humiliation
rituals. I'll tease the next segment, although perhaps that's not the best way to phrase what
I'm going to do in the next segment because you've got Russia's state TV, which is basically
directed by Vladimir Putin, posting nude photos of Melania,
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whatever we can to preserve, protect, and defend our democracy. This is not going to be easy,
but this is a challenge that we've built infrastructure for and we are ready to go. It's interesting, Vivek Ramaswamy, before we started, posted the
following, shut it down. And frankly, that's kind of the MAGA attitude about anything. I don't fully
know what he's even talking about here. If it's shut down the Department of Education, because
that's one of the things they say, is it shut down the government because they want to not fund the government until Trump takes over and to shut it down. They always want to just shut down and tear
down the government. Are they talking about just shut down the border, which sounds very simple,
but when you are involved in trade agreements, quite literally hundreds of billions of dollars in commerce takes place across borders every single
day. So if you just shut it down, well then how are you going to get some of the goods that let's
say are made in Tijuana into America? Or how are you going to get some of the American products
into Mexico? How's that trade just going to happen? And how are other goods from South America that
go through trade routes in Mexico going to get in here? So it's a very simple solution.
Vikram Swami, he's a smart guy. He knows what he's doing. And Brett, to your point, he knows
just he simply messes, shut it down, shut it, burn it down. And that has a appeal to people, but shutting down the Department of
Education, how many children and students is that going to devastate? Shutting it down,
the government, people's social security, people's healthcare, the Affordable Care Act,
shut it down. What is that going to mean? I mean, the reality is, is that there has to be,
and this is where President Biden was smart, just couldn't message it the right, struggled to message it honestly because of his age, not because he was on target about
what to do and how to do this. But ultimately you need institutions in order to function.
I don't want America to be the Mar-a-Lago of chaos. And everybody's like, that's the Trump world.
That's what America voted for. There is an importance of some institutions that function so that there could be orderly behavior of government and governance. That is important.
But at the same time, we have to recognize the types of people who want the chaos because in the
ashes that they leave, they're going to be the
ones kind of picking your pockets. By the way, we talked about Tom Homan at the beginning of the
show. I just want to read you one other quote. When Tom Homan was asked recently, why should
children be forced to leave the country if they were born and raised in the United States and
undergo the denaturalization process. And he says,
because their parents entered illegally, had a child knowing he was in the country illegally,
so he created the crisis. So the American citizen now has to be denaturalized because
they were born there. It is their fault. That is the logic or illogic that they are using. Let's show that Biden clip
today because then I want to pivot to what Putin is doing to Donald Trump and showing his dominance.
President Biden has always stood up to Vladimir Putin and built NATO stronger than ever. Here's
what he had to say in his last speech at Arlington Cemetery on Veterans Day. Let's play this clip.
This is the last time I will stand here at Arlington as Commander-in-Chief.
It's been the greatest honor of my life to lead you, to serve you, to care for you, to defend you,
just as you defended us generation after generation after generation.
Let's press pause. Don't press pause, but let's mark this section
of the show because it is my suspicion that in about six months or so, perhaps less,
maybe three months, there's going to be a big movement of, can we bring that guy back?
Where's Joe? Can we bring Joe back? And we're not going to be able
to do that. The stability, the no drama, all of that, that we had, as well as economic growth,
America chose chaos. America chose hardship. America chose, not all of America, but a significant portion
of America voted against their interests. I mean, heck, I was looking yesterday,
Brett and Jordy and Midas Mighty. I was looking at the Teamsters social media account,
and they were talking about some temporary collective bargaining deal they
had. I think it was with like Home Depot. It's a temporary negotiation, which is set to expire
in early 2025. And they viewed that as like a win. And I was also looking at Sean O'Brien,
who heads the Teamsters, his account. Because he spoke at the RNC. He took that photo with
Donald Trump where they were wearing their red ties, giving the
thumbs up in Mar-a-Lago together.
So I was looking.
I was like, where is Sean O'Brien's congratulations to Trump?
He was congratulating other people.
Where was his congratulations to Trump, who he helped out?
And then I saw all these Teamsters posts about collective bargaining rights and the extensions of certain contracts with management,
various locals that are picketing. I'm thinking to myself, look, a lot of Teamsters stood up.
There was a lot of the locals that endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, but a lot of those
Teamsters, a lot of union members, I'm not suggesting that it was all union members, but
if you're in unions, you know the people who I'm talking about, literally voted for
Donald Trump against their unions.
I mean, Donald Trump doesn't believe in the PRO Act.
Donald Trump is against the very essence of what a union does, collectively bargain.
Donald Trump's about to appoint people to the National Labor Relations
Board, which is the main board that allows grievances against management under collectively
bargained for contracts. The National Labor Relations Board is going to be pro-management.
So when you have an issue, you are not going to be able to get any relief. And your strikes are going to be declared
unlawful. And you're not going to be able to picket. Your union is literally powerless
in a Trump administration. And your union people, and you voted for Trump. I mean,
it is a wild concept to me. And that's just kind of one example where,
you remember, Brent, we had that guy on who was the general counsel of one of the big labor unions
two years in, and he walked us through.
He was like, Trump lied to the Teamsters in 2016.
Then he put the most anti-worker group in the NLRB.
And here's how he screwed us.
Biden walked on the picket lines with us.
He literally saved our pensions, saved your pensions, but that wasn't good enough.
Your pensions, your life, your family, putting food on the table. Biden stood up for you. Trump's
taking that food away. So we'll mark this episode where we start hearing the calls from the people when the leopard actually
ate their face and they go, oh, how did that happen? And again, just seeing, one of the things
I see from all of these MAGA influencers too, is they post all of the data that existed when Biden
was in office and now like, look what Trump did. This is at a record high. Look,
Hamas is saying they're going to do this now. I'm like, it's the same thing that Hamas said
they were going to be doing two months ago, three months ago, five months ago. So that's what they
were saying back then. There's literally no difference. And now this person's doing that.
And now we're energy independent. No, all of these things existed before.
Trump didn't do any of it at all.
But Brett, to your point, it's like, okay, well, let's see actually what happens when
Trump does 2000% tariff.
Let's see what happens when he does mass deportation.
Let's see what happens when he does tax cuts for billionaires.
Let's see what happens when he shuts down the Department of Education.
Let's see what happens when he takes away the Department of Education. Let's see what happens when he takes away your healthcare and shuts down social security.
Then we can judge. But you know what's going to happen? And this is why Democrats
wake the heck up because this happens every time. That stuff starts to kick in year two,
year three, right? Everybody gets pissed and they're like, oh, we got to vote them out.
The next Obama or whoever comes in, right? And then what do the Republicans do? Look,
it's your fault. You screwed us. And it's all of their freaking policies. And so what you have to
do right now, and this is what's pissing me off about their silence, frankly. It's that you can't just show up for an election. You can't
just show up 90 days before, hey, I'm a celebrity. Let me write some op-eds now, or hey, now I'm
going to write a song about it. That's not the way it works, right? You have to be A, B, C,
always be campaigning. Not necessary for elections, but for the heart and soul of our freaking country.
That's the mode that we're always on here at Midas Touch Network.
ABC always be campaigning for the people.
That's what you have to be doing here and not just be like, oh, just there's an election.
No, because then the American people were like, where were you?
I didn't see you before. Now you're just showing up, George Clooney. Oh, now you're just showing up, this celebrity. Now you're just showing up. Oh, where were you when I was asking for help? Were you in your villas in freaking Lake Como? Is that where you were? Or were you with us on the front lines? That's what needs to be done.
Meanwhile, I tease this and so I have to talk about it and I'll throw it to you, Brett.
Vladimir Putin has the Russian, I mean, there's really not much more to the story.
They're showing naked photos of Melania all over and then they're laughing at her and then they're
mocking her and then they're saying, what does my body, my choice really mean in America after showing
the nudes of Melania and then mocking Donald Trump and Melania. So anyway, that's, I guess
it was a long tease, but, oh, and then Don jr. Showing these photos of Zelensky, um, and mocking
Zelensky, um, and basically threatening Zelensky and mocking Zelensky and basically threatening Zelensky
and Ukrainian lives. You're 38 days from losing your allowance. And just think about that. That's
how the Trump administration handles foreign policy. You're 38 days from losing your allowance,
Brett. Yeah, well, we have the world's worst people in charge. We're going to be finding out
more and more about other of the worst people who are going to be added to this administration. We are going to continue to report on everything,
the good, the bad, the ugly, the very ugly. We will be reporting all of it here on the
Midas Touch Network. I want to thank everybody for sticking with us during these difficult times. I
know sometimes these times are times where you want to turn off and say, oh, I can't anymore.
I give up. But I appreciate all you who are back in you want to turn off and say, oh, I can't anymore. I give up.
But I appreciate all you who are back in this fight.
If you took a break or sticking this out, I know that I am fired up right now more than
ever.
And not that this really changes much, but I also want to emphasize that this truly was
a, at the end of the day, a very close election.
I mean, let's look at what Ezra Klein wrote today.
He wrote the following. He said, Trump is on track for a smaller popular vote victory than Hillary Clinton won in 2016.
Democrats have work to do. They need to build a coalition that's not always two points from
losing to MAGA, but I don't see Republicans internalizing that this was a narrow victory.
And I think that's incredibly true. And I think what we are seeing now is I think Republicans
are getting a little cocky.
I think Democrats are also viewing this as some sort of cataclysmic event that is unrecoverable.
And I remember now all the elections that Democrats have lost in the past, where every single time it has been a world is ending.
Democrats need to reinvent the wheel. They need to change everything
if they're going to reach people. They're never going to get any power again, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah. And I'll give you that this time is certainly different because we have somebody
with authoritarian leanings, to say the least, in the White House. And we also have to see
what happens in that regard and how the rest of our institutions
hold to that. But I will say this, that pro-democracy was not rejected outright on election night.
And in fact, oddly enough, Democrats made quite a few gains during election day and actually had
a lot of successes where if, and I know this is a big if, if the
election didn't go the way it was, I think everybody would be celebrating that as a massive
success for Democrats and Democratic messaging and the ideals of the Democratic Party in general.
I think when you look to even like Kentucky turning to a liberal majority court. I think that says a whole lot. When you see Michigan, them nominating
pro-democracy judges, when you see people like Alyssa Slotkin winning their races, when you see
Ruben Gallego defeating Carrie Lake, you see that there is still a pretty big disgust at MAGA across
the country. Now, somehow the voters have been able to separate
that from the man himself who created all these monsters, right? They seem to separate that from
Donald Trump. They view Trump as his own thing. And they view Carrie Lake as, oh, I can't vote
for that lady. Yeah. I'm like, dude, you know that she's like the female version of Donald Trump. I
don't know how you split that ticket, but people do, but people do. And so it's going to be a whole new ballgame in the future when that's not the case. And so I think we all just need to keep fighting every single day. We need to be aware of what's coming because we're not going to close our eyes to the reality of what's coming our way and the horrible stuff.
I mean, I take Trump at his word and I take his acolytes at his word when they say they are going to do all these horrible things.
But, you know, we're going to fight through it together as a community.
We're going to do it.
We're going to keep our heads down.
We're just going to put in the work every single day.
We are going to do our best to be leaders and we are calling on all of you out
there. And that includes all of you watching. All the leaders out there, now is the time to
make your voice heard. Now there is a vacuum out there and people are craving leadership.
People are craving somebody to explain what is the way forward. So if you are a politician,
someone who wants to get into politics, someone who wants
to get into community organizing, whatever it is, now is the time. Use this as a spark to ignite
that in you and get out there and start spreading the message. Let's all get to work together.
Jordy, final words. Let's do this. Shout out to the Midas Mighty!
Hey, Midas Mighty.
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