The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump DITCHES and HUMILIATES his Lawyer before Surrendering

Episode Date: August 24, 2023

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump parting ways with his lead lawyer in the Fulton County criminal RICO case hours before surrendering. Drew Findling is out of Trump’s legal team and should have known better.  If you head to https://REELPAPER.com/meidas and sign up for a subscription using code MEIDAS at checkout, you’ll automatically get 30% off your first order and FREE SHIPPING! Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 American Psyop: https://pod.link/1652143101 Burn the Boats: https://pod.link/1485464343 Majority 54: https://pod.link/1309354521 Political Beatdown: https://pod.link/1669634407 Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://pod.link/1676844320 MAGA Uncovered: https://pod.link/1690214260 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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free of charge bet mgm operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming ontario i'm ben mysellus from the midas touch network just hours before donald Trump was getting ready to surrender to the Fulton County Sheriff's Department to get booked, to get weighed, to have his mugshot taken, the chaos that we are used to seeing in Donald Trump's orbit, of course, took place where we learned that Donald Trump's lawyer, Drew Finling, who refers to himself as the billion-dollar lawyer he's known for representing hip-hop artists and rappers like Cardi B and others, he's able to get along with them, but apparently not able to get along with Donald Trump because he's out. And his, whether he was fired, whether he

quit, we're hearing conflicting stories. But in Trump's orbit, that's always chaos taking place. But Finling is gone. There is now a new lawyer on Trump's legal team who just entered a notice of appearance. There's the notice of appearance right there. Steven Sado. Steven Sado also put out a statement. I'm the new lawyer. Donald Trump's innocent. Political opponents, persecution, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All of the normal crap that we are used to. Now, we're not really sure yet, did Donald Trump fire Drew Finling? Did Finling resign? But there's a number of theories that I think any one of them can be correct. Let's start with Occam's razor, the most obvious one. Donald Trump doesn't pay people. And as you approach the surrender date, I know of Drew Finling by reputation.

I'm surprised he took this case because Finling is known as a pretty good person, pretty good lawyer. The billion dollar lawyer stick is a little bit over the top and a little kind of cheesy, but that's his thing, whatever. But I was surprised he took this case. As we know, MAGA stands for make attorneys, get attorneys, and Findling's a smart guy. So surprised me. So one, Findling didn't get paid. Number two, Findling could have quit because Donald Trump has repeatedly violated, in my opinion, the consent order, the consent bond order that Finling negotiated on Trump's behalf with Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis. We've been covering here Donald Trump's posts on his social

media platform where he's been threatening and attacking witnesses like former Vice President Pence, attacking the city of Atlanta and saying false and disparaging things about Atlanta, attacking Fulton County District Attorney Foney Willis. All of those, in my view, would be violations of the strict prohibitions in the consent bond order that Donald Trump shall not directly or indirectly through social media posts or repost attack or intimidate witnesses, the community, co-defendants. And to me, that was all a form of direct or at the very least, in my view, indirect witness intimidation. And so, you know, Drew Findling has to go before these judges very frequently. He doesn't just represent Donald Trump. And so having somebody who violates consent orders that Findling negotiated could have just been enough for Findling and he could

have just said, I'm out. It's also possible that Trump was really upset about this consent order and he was whining about it on social media. Oh, they're making me pay a $200,000 bond and I have to show up. And it's like, that's what your lawyer, you could have objected to it. Like that was a consent bond order. And as the name implies, consent is that your lawyers agreed to these terms. So Donald Trump could have also thought, hey, you know, look at Mark Meadows' lawyer. They're filing all of these documents. Look at Mark Meadows filing this removal and this motion to dismiss. And my lawyers, they just agreed to this consent order that I don't even like. This guy's not, I need a more powerful, I need a more powerful lawyer. You can see

Trump thinking that way and then he could have fired Finling. I probably think it's the first that Trump is not paying Finling. Also, Finling's got a bit of an ego about him as well. Finling's the kind of person who, again, I know Findling through his reputation and through other lawyers. Findling would tell a client, hey, you got to be quiet. Stop doing this. This is not how you should be acting right now. I'm not going to represent you if you do this. That's the kind of guy Findling is. And again, that's why I was shocked that Findling even took this representation in the first place. And Donald Trump demands total and absolute obsequiousness, obedience. If you're a lawyer for Trump, you got to be super weird MAGA cult at this point. And you got to be

willing to go on TV and make a fool out of yourself and completely destroy your reputation and potentially yourself become criminally indicted in service of Donald Trump, like Giuliani and Eastman and Sidney Powell and others. It's just, you know, when I saw Findling doing these, you know, appearances, I get that Findling has been adverse to Fonny Willis in a lot of the hip hop Rico cases that she's prosecuted and he goes against her office. They're adverse on a lot of things. So maybe it's that competitive spirit or maybe it's his, you know, he, he wanted the attention, but he's out and it's been fairly humiliating. I think he'll realize this, like he'll probably look back at it. And if you were to ask him privately, he'd be like, yeah, that was a really screwed up move

that I made. Because it was just embarrassing to see. It's like, here, this is Drew Findling on Ari Melber. I'll show you two clips. And it's like, he looked like he didn't want to be there. Play this clip. Georgia, if you request or attempt to cause another person to engage in voter fraud, that's criminal solicitation. If you conspire or agree with another to commit a violation, that is another Georgia statute. Those are both felonies. Those are just two. And there are, as you know, others. I could tell you we're incredibly familiar with those statutes. They aren't new to us. We do a lot of political cases. Sure. We are absolutely confident, having looked at the evidence,

that our client has not violated any of those. Do you acknowledge that Donald Trump lost Georgia and people telling the government they were the duly elected electors were lying? Yeah, so I'm, Ari, I am not going to start getting into political statements. You could see even Finling there, just like Finling's the kind of guy, by the way, I wouldn't be shocked if Finling voted for Biden. I don't think Finling's a Trump guy. Again, by reputation and by people I know who know Finling. So he's got to sit there and ask questions like that. And look, I don't feel bad for him. I mean, he invited this when he did it. Let's stop cutting down trees to make toilet paper. Now it's true. Humans are cutting down

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I am focused on being a criminal defense attorney. That's an easy one. Do you acknowledge that, Drew? No, no, I'm focused. Let me tell you what I'm focused on. I'm focused on being a criminal defense attorney and seeing that my client is being swept up in what has, to me, been a ridiculous circus atmosphere, special purpose grand jury. No, and you made that point, but not only in this case, not only in this case, but on other cases, you made that point, but do you acknowledge that sit there? Do you acknowledge that he lost? You can talk to other political people. Why don't even, why would we even talk about that? Because you're on a political show because Because you're on a political show on MSNBC and if you are going to try to spin whatever it is you want to spin for Donald Trump and one of the

foundational elements in your criminal defense is I suppose you're going to say that Donald Trump didn't have the intent to commit the crime. Yes, it is a valid question to ask the lawyer representing him what the view is on the central question. And one of the central questions, which is that Donald Trump perpetrated this entire criminal enterprise scheme to overthrow the results of an unquestionably free and fair election. And I stress unquestionably. So fiddling when you get asked a question and unquestion, the answer is by everybody credible in Georgia, from the governor to the secretary of state to the lieutenant governor, that it was a free and fair election, that the results were accurate. And then you're out there trying to spin some other crap but not answer the basic question. Then you lose all credibility and you shouldn't even go on the show

to begin with. You know you're going to be asked that question. And if you're not prepared for that question, then don't go on the show. I'll leave you with this one here. This is Finling in February of 2023 on Face the Nation. Watch what he said here. What are your options? Are the results of that special purpose grand jury to be crumbled up like a piece of paper and thrown into a waste paper basket? Our options are, can this district attorney's office continue to be part of this case? We have to legally research all of those issues. Have you lost confidence in the district attorney? We've lost 100% confidence in this process. We feel this process has been compromised. Well, the question isn't,

should the district attorney be part of the case? The real elemental question is, should you be part of this case? And the answer is, you, sir, are no longer part of this case. I do, by reputation, know you to be actually an honorable and decent lawyer and person, but you getting embroiled in all of this Trump mess, you should have known this was going to happen. To you, I'm Ben Mycelis. Check out MidasTouch.com for all the breaking news and everything. Midas Touch, check it out, MidasTouch.com. Wherever you get audio podcasts, subscribe to the Midas Touch podcast. Thank you so much and check out MidasTouch.com.