The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump files STRANGE Response to Court Order in New Criminal Case

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on a new notice filed by Special Counsel Jack Smith and Trump’s Lawyer John Lauro in response to Federal Judge Tanya Chutkan’s Recent Minute Order.  Shopify: Sign up for a one-dollar per month trial at https://shopify.com/meidas Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 American Psyop: https://pod.link/1652143101 Burn the Boats: https://pod.link/1485464343 Majority 54: https://pod.link/1309354521 Political Beatdown: https://pod.link/1669634407 Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://pod.link/1676844320 MAGA Uncovered: https://pod.link/1690214260 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm Ben Micellis from the Midas Touch Network. Donald Trump's lawyers just gave a very strange response in a stipulation that they, along with Special Counsel Jack Smith's office, filed in the new case brought against Donald Trump by special counsel Jack Smith for Trump's crimes relating to the 2020 election, as well as Trump's crimes relating to the January 6th insurrection. We previously reported that the federal judge presiding over the case in Washington, D.C., Judge Tanya S. Chutkin, issued a minute order on August 7th stating the following, minute order as to Donald J. Trump. Upon consideration of the government's motion for protective order

and defendant's response, as well as the government's reply, the court will schedule a hearing on the party's respective proposals. The court will waive the requirement of defendant's appearance, meaning Trump does not have to appear accordingly. It is hereby ordered that no later than 3 p.m. on August 8th, 2023, the parties shall meet and confer and file a joint notice of two dates and times on or before August 11th, 2023, when both parties are available for a hearing. Signed, Federal Judge Tanya S. Chutkin. A pretty direct order, but do you think that Donald Trump and his lawyers are capable of complying with pretty direct orders?

Absolutely not. Here is the joint notice in response to the court's August 7th, 2023 minute order. Not even necessarily a stipulation because Trump's lawyers don't stipulate to anything or follow court orders. Here's what it says. By minute order on August 7th, 2023, which I just read for you, the court directed the parties to meet and confer and inform the court by joint notice, quote, of two dates and times on or before August 11th, 2023, when both parties are available for a hearing.

The parties have conferred and hereby provide notice. The government is available at any time on August 9th, 10th, or 11th. So special counsel Jack Smith saying, my team is ready to go whenever Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, judge, we are ready to go. And now Trump's response, the defense represents the following. First, it starts off by saying, President Trump will not appear. Okay, well, why are you even saying that? If you go to the minute order, it clearly and specifically says, the court will waive the requirement of defendants appearance. So just shows you the level of immaturity of these lawyers. So it says

president Trump will not appear. However, he would like to have both his counsel, John Loro and Todd Blanche at the hearing. Todd Blanche is not available on Thursday since he must appear for a court proceeding in the prosecution brought against the same defendant, they call him President Trump, he's not the president, by the special counsel in the Southern District of Florida. Mr. Loro is available on Thursday with a preference for an afternoon setting. However, since we lost Friday as an option, we would respectfully request a setting on Monday after 12 p.m. or Tuesday all day to allow for both Mr. Blanche and Mr. Loro to be present because Donald Trump would like both lawyers to be present. It was a very simple request and order by Judge Chutkin, provide me with dates and

times that you're available on or before August 11th. And the response by Trump's lawyer is Trump will not appear, which Judge Chutkin already said he doesn't need to appear, and the response by Trump's lawyer is Trump will not appear, which Judge Shutkin already said he doesn't need to appear, and leave it to Trump's lawyers to propose next Monday and next Tuesday, completely in contravention of this court order. And so this is signed by special counsel Jack Smith and John Loro, one of Donald Trump's lawyers. I assume very soon we will get an order by Judge Chutkin and we will bring you that order as soon as we hear it. A little while ago, we had the idea that we wanted to sell the best pro-democracy merchandise in the game. And candidly, we had no idea where to get started. That's why I'm so glad that I found

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Donald Trump's spokesperson said, oh, we weren't talking about prosecutors or the court or these proceedings. Donald Trump was talking about the RINOs, you know, like the Koch brothers, these other Republican groups. That's who Donald Trump was talking about because it's gaslighting 101. Then Donald Trump's lawyers sought to delay and ask for a full briefing schedule when Judge Chutkin said, No, I want to hear y'all positions by Monday. Give me the positions about what you think, Trump lawyers, about the protective order. Seems like a pretty standard protective order. So then on Monday, Donald Trump's lawyers filed their proposed

protective order, which under their version, basically they wanted to reveal the identities of witnesses to the public, and they wanted to shift the burden of grand jury secrecy so that special counsel Jack Smith would have to justify grand jury secrecy as opposed to the presumption that witness interviews and things that take place in the grand jury are almost always in criminal proceedings subject to protective orders, keeping it confidential from the public but not the parties. And then special counsel Jack Smith's team filed a scathing reply in support of their motion for protective order, calling out Donald Trump and his lawyers tactics where they've just been going on a media tour. And the type of pre-trial publicity that Trump's lawyers are engaged in, especially with all of the lies that they are spreading, is actually from an ethical perspective in criminal proceedings, very problematic. And actually, there are rules both at the state bar, local state level, and within the

case law and federal cases. And special counsel Jack Smith's calling them out saying, local, state level, and within the case law in federal cases. And special counsel Jack Smith's calling him out saying, well, the case law and all of the kind of ethical rules, exactly what Trump's lawyers are trying to do is something that you're not supposed to do in criminal cases. What's supposed to happen in criminal cases is that Trump gets the right to a fair trial, that Trump will be given the evidence on a swift and expedited basis, that he will get all of these interviews and everything that special counsel Jack Smith intends to rely on in the case being brought by special counsel Jack Smith. But there isn't this idea in criminal cases that they're supposed to be tried in the

media with lies. So you go through this motion filed by special counsel Jack Smith in support of their motion for a protective order, and they detail all of the appearances of Trump's lawyers over the weekend where they say these lies and they talk about the case. And it's the lawyers basically saying, look, the media should be outraged that the government wants a protective order. Also, special counsel Jack Smith put a footnote in reminding the court of Donald Trump's threats to witnesses like former Vice President Pence.

And so that's in there as well. And so here's where we are right now. A hearing date will be set by Judge Chutkin. We should expect that to take place in a swift and expedited manner. But it just goes to show you such a bizarre stipulation that's filed. Even the most basic things, Donald Trump's lawyers are going to engage in this kind of gaslighting and problematic conduct. But special counsel Jack Smith is ready for it. I'm Ben Micellis from the Midas Touch Network.

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