The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump Gets Broken in Front of Entire World with Retreat

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump retreating on his tariff war against China and getting nothing in return as Trump looks utterly pathetic and weak. Head to qualialife.com/meidas and use promo code: MEIDAS at checkout for 15% OFF your purchase of Qualia's products. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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imposed on China after Donald Trump said that those tariffs were going to bring so much manufacturing back to the United States and it was going to make the United States so rich that we wouldn't even need income taxes in the United States anymore because those tariffs would replace it. Donald Trump effectively surrendered as he was broken before the world. If you want to see how China is viewing this, look at how its state regime media is talking about it today. They are posting cartoon images like this of an Uncle Sam character getting uppercut in the face by a character representing tariffs. More on that in a little bit. What I want you to focus on

as well, when you take a look at the joint statement on U.S.-China economic and trade meeting in Geneva released by the United States and China, I want you to notice what's missing about that. Do you notice that it doesn't use the word deal, joint statement on deal. Why? Because it was not a deal. It was a retreat by Donald Trump after what he imposed on China. China has referred to this as a consensus that was reached. And the consensus basically is for the United States to pull back what it did and what it said it was going to be so great. If you take a look at the details of what took place, it effectively means the U.S. will temporarily lower its overall tariffs on Chinese goods from 145% to 30%, while China will cut its levies on American imports

from 125% to 10%, according to the joint statement. Why? Because China recognized that tariffs are a tax on its own importers that are then passed through to consumers. So China's effectively taxing its own consumers at a rate of 10%, while the United States is still taxing its consumers at 30%. But the United States pulled back from 145% to 30% after a few days ago, Donald Trump saying, I don't know, maybe we'll do 80%. And then Donald Trump's Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, who some call nutlick, said, I don't know, maybe it'll be 50%.

Well, now it is 30% right there. And again, this is after Donald Trump said that this is what's going to make us all rich. The more tariffs, the better, Trump said, right? And he said the fact that ships aren't coming into our ports, which we were warning about in the United States, right? We had Governor Gavin Newsom show up and say, the ships aren't coming to Oakland. The ships aren't coming to Long Beach, which is in Los Angeles. We also know the ships weren't coming to Seattle, but Trump said that was a great thing. So I guess that's not a great thing after all right there. And the markets seem to think that Trump's tariff war against the world is not a great thing because the markets are reacting very positively to Donald Trump's retreat right now. You want to see how it's being reported in financial papers. Barron's,

the financial magazine, says the following. Trump blinked big time on China trade, taking the worst case off the table. The Trump administration has blinked big time. And if you're saying, well, what did Donald Trump get in return? Absolutely nothing. If you take Donald Trump's own words, he says that China said maybe it's going to try to maybe stop sending more fentanyl. I take them at their word, he said. I take them at their word that this may stop some of the fentanyl coming into the United States. You take them at their word that that's what you extracted from this. Take a look at how Bloomberg is characterizing this. Xi Jinping's defiance pays off as Trump meets most Chinese trade demands. After two days of talks in Switzerland, the U.S. and China announced de-escalation. The deal met

nearly all of Beijing's core demands, including the suspension of the elevated reciprocal tariff, the establishment of a point person for talks, and agreements on fentanyl and tariffs. The reduction in tariffs is seen as a positive development in China, with the potential to boost its economy and make it easier to hit a growth target of about 5% this year, although some caution remains. And it goes and talks about here in this article how China basically got everything it wants. And so I ask you, what was the whole point of what Donald Trump's been doing if he was just going to withdraw it anyway after telling us all how great it was going to be? And America gets what? Nothing in return. There's no actual deal here. So stop

calling it a deal. It's a consensus for the United States to retreat and for future discussions to happen in the future. That's what happened. And it showed the world how unstable the United States is and frankly made, and this is a horrible thing to say as an American, but I don't know, but I have to be objective in my reporting. It made China look like the adult in the room and the mature one in the room while Trump looked like a little petulant baby and shows the US market as being not stable. That's not a good thing right now. And it also shows you can take Donald Trump,

well, we do this before, but it certainly is reflective again of you can take Donald Trump seriously on anything he says. He'll impose something for 30 days, the pressure rises, and then he retreats. That's his pattern over and over again. And the rest of the world has taken notice. He's a paper tiger. It's the nicest thing you could possibly say about him. Charles Gasparino, a business reporter for Fox, says the following. Trump raised tariffs on the world, the markets, particularly the bond

market, which needs to finance our debt, rebelled. Trump was then forced to back off. End of story. Film at 11, a president trying to spin this as a victory. Okay, sorry, I couldn't help myself. But what we have seen is a little lesson in how markets exert their power. How, when you have to depend on them, as we still do, and remember, it's really the budget deficit that's causing the trade deficit. And we need the budget deficit to maintain our standard of living. You can't go to a trade war with the world without bad stuff happening. Now I'll show you right here. This is by Donald Trump's own admission, kind of sheepishly being asked at a press conference earlier, what did you get out of this? Like, so what's the United States getting? Because there was more trade, better trade before January 20th.

So we're in a slightly worse position now than January 20th. That's supposed to be the victory in terms of the bilateral relationship. As a country, we're in a far worse situation as we've had a first quarter GDP contraction, many small businesses and medium-sized businesses suffering. American people are suffering. Donald Trump says, yeah, maybe they'll stop the fentanyl, play this clip. But so that's a very important subject to me because everybody in this room has lost friends or people that have family members that have died of fentanyl. So there's a big incentive for China to stop and I take them at their word. They're going to work on that, I think, very hard. So you ever wake up and feel like your

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halls and town squares. We did this. And he's also referring to a post he made on April 27th, where he says, Trump will cave on tariffs. If we push this with everything we got, we can make this coward cave. It's coming. And he was responding there on April 27th, 2025, to Trump saying that these tariffs against China were working so well that we were going to eliminate the income tax, that we wouldn't need the income tax anymore. Here, play this clip. And we're going to make a lot of money and we're going to cut taxes for the people of this country. It'll take a little while before we do that, but we're going to be cutting taxes. And it's possible we'll do a complete tax cut

because I think the tariffs will be enough to cut all of the income tax. Now, we have a lot of debt that's been left to us, you know, unfortunately, over many years. We'll take care of that. But the tariffs, when people only understood the tariffs, we're going to be giving people of this country a tremendous tax cut. And we're going to start with people making less than $200,000 a year. So here's what we posted on the Midas Touch network. U.S.-China agreed to a 90-day pause on new tariffs after shipping to U.S. ports plummeted. U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports will be cut from 145% to 30%. Chinese tariffs on U.S. imports will be cut from 125% to 10%. If tariffs are supposed to result in massive job growth and make U.S. rich,

then why are we lowering them? Then we showed the cycle of Trump and MAGA people. Trump goes, I'm adding tariffs. MAGA people, this will create jobs. Trump, I'm removing tariffs. Art of the deal, says his MAGA cult. Trump, I'm adding the tariffs again. Trump people, this will create jobs. I'm removing the yesterday. And two, U.S. trade policy and our macroeconomic prospects are much worse today than on inauguration day. Both are still true. This is how they're talking about this in China Daily, the main Chinese state regime media. I just want you to see how they're framing this there. As a major power in the world, the U.S. should act in such a responsible way. However, the frequent backsliding and wanton changes in trade rules of the government have damaged the country's credibility of itself. The U.S. has become

an unreliable and fickle player in global economic governance, with its strategic credibility and international status being continuously eroded by its short-sighted behavior. The U.S. is trying to curb China's economic development through high tariffs, but the reality is quite the opposite. The global supply chain has formed an intricate network, and China has cultivated irreplaceable advantages in basic manufacturing, support industries, and labor. The high tariff policy of the U.S. will not be able to hit China, which in turn will seriously damage its own economic interests. China will not succumb to any form of economic coercion and will resolutely defend its legitimate rights and interests and national security through corresponding countermeasures in accordance with relevant laws and regulations and the basic principles of international law. It goes on to say, So you see what the position

of China is right there. And then while I'm on the topic, I do want to show you this as well, because you can go through deal by deal here with Donald Trump, and we can call this out. I think Justin Wolfers, economist at University of Michigan, does a very good job right here doing that. Here he talks about how really when you talk about the quote unquote deal between the United States and the United Kingdom, it's just a phony thing. Here, play this clip. Let me characterize the whole deal for you. It's 10%. I want you to write that in big font on a big piece of paper, 10%, and there's a little asterisk next to it. The 10% matters because it basically

said Trump walked in and he said, I am imposing a 10% tariff on Americans who buy goods from Britain no matter what. And then he said, there's an asterisk up here which says, now let's start making a deal. And the making a deal was a promise to have further chats about further conversations, which actually gets very close to nothing done. It was basically collusion between the British Prime Minister and the American president to go out and each lie to their respective populations to pretend each had gotten something done with the other. The reality is this deal does nothing except actually cement in place higher tariffs, to be clear, taxes on Americans who buy goods from the United Kingdom, per en, with a carve out for Rolls Royces.

And here, Professor Wolf first talks about how the economics of the special tariff carve out for British made luxury vehicles really reveals Donald Trump's true intentions here, which is to basically help luxury brands that he likes, I guess, while manipulating the markets. Here, play this clip right here. And what's amazing is the president actually said, well, we've got to give him a break on the Rolls Royces because they're a beautifully made handcrafted car. The whole point of the tariffs is to bring production to America. I get British craftsmanship, but if the president doesn't think we're capable of learning how to stretch leather over a car seat, we have tariffs on bananas. No American worker is ever going to learn how to grow bananas.

We have tariffs on vanilla. We can't grow vanilla. We have tariffs on diamonds. We can't mine diamonds. But we did decide that the one thing we definitely can't do is Rolls Royces. So we should have a special carve out. Well, there you have it, folks. Let me know what you think.

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