The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Fired Workers Go Public
Episode Date: February 23, 2025MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on disabled veterans who worked for the federal government and were fired by Donald Trump who are speaking out about his cruel and unusual treatment of them. Hi...ya: Go to https://hiyahealth.com/MEIDAS and get your kids the full-body nourishment they need to grow into healthy adults. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Donald Trump has been firing thousands of federal workers every day.
Tens of thousands of workers have been fired.
And now these workers are speaking out in public.
A lot of them are disabled veterans.
Veterans make up about 30 to 40 percent of our federal workforce after sacrificing on the battlefield and across the country for our military. Oftentimes, our veterans get work within the federal government to serve for their lifetime. tearing their lives apart, firing them, and treating them like absolute trash.
They're now speaking out about it.
Let me share some of these stories with you.
And as you'll see at the end of the video, some individuals were even Trump supporters
and didn't think this was going to happen.
But let's just show you at first some disabled veterans who have lost their jobs.
For example, here's a disabled veteran who lost his
job with the Salt Lake Veteran Affairs Department. This is from Fox 13 News in Utah. Play this clip.
Some federal workers may tell you a job with the government takes on a higher meaning.
We joined it because we want to serve our nation's veterans, to serve our schools,
our park goers, you know,
everywhere that the federal government touches. For Navy veteran Greg House, he wanted to continue
helping others who have spent time in the military. I get almost all of my care at the VA
hospital. That is a huge part of my identity and I want to serve them. So he jumped at the chance to join the Veterans Affairs team in Salt Lake City last year.
And all indicators told him he was thriving in the role.
Because I had only received top marks on my most recent performance evaluation.
But on February 13th, House discovered that the VA cut 1,000 probationary employees.
The next day, he saw an email.
My employment with the VA had been terminated
due to my performance,
which didn't make much sense to me.
House says it feels like a betrayal
because from his time served in the Navy
to his years here at the VA,
his entire adult life has been dedicated to this country.
And it hurts to see that, you know, my story is not unique and that all of these thousands and thousands of probationary employees are having something that they've worked so hard for be just taken away. This 80% disabled veteran now joins many others around the country
who are left searching for their next step and who are left hoping that others don't have to meet
this same fate. The next clip I want to share with you is just so sad and it's Chelsea Milburn.
She's a disabled veteran sharing her emotional story about being fired from her federal job that she worked so hard at by Donald Trump.
Here, play this clip.
I've already said I served my country for 11 years, nine of them on active duty.
I deployed twice.
I spent so much time away from my family.
Oh, no.
I was gone when my mom passed away and I missed that to
serve my country and I was excited to continue serving in this capacity and
they not only tore that out from under my feet, but couldn't even just grant me a layoff and instead
place the blame on me that it was my performance. And I've gotten nothing but positive reviews
on that. So I feel very much like the message is that my service isn't valued. They don't care
about how this impacts me or people like me. And to me, it's inhumane.
It feels like they're ignoring our personhood and not respecting us as human beings or as
Americans. Yeah, that one brought a tear to my eye. Here is another veteran fired by the Trump
administration. Here's what she had to say about what happened to her. Play this
clip. Yes, I was the program support assistant at the Cedar Rapids Vet Center. We were mental
health, or they are a mental health and behavioral health center. We have a director and counselors,
and then I support the system there, or I did, up until Friday, February 14th. I was met at the
door by my director. She let me know that
I was done. I had no idea. It hit me out of the blue. I didn't even know I was on a list that
would possibly be considered, but it appears that any one of us could be on that list.
I was allowed online the entire day to be able to sort my business, and I still haven't been
able to offload or offboard completely. So because we
are in limbo. I don't know Logan's experience, but mine is that I'm still in somewhere kind of
in between. And since I work for the Veterans Health Administration, there is no one now to
meet our clients at the door. There's no one to confirm schedules. There's no one to help and
assist with our counselors. And anytime you take
the support away, it may seem minor. I was a GS6. I was on the lowest levels of the GS scale. It may
seem minor, but the next time you walk into a doctor's office and there's no one to meet you
at the front desk, you have no idea what's going on in the background. You have no idea if you have
a schedule or an appointment still. And no one's there to balance the budget, to order things, to make sure the doctors and
nurses or counselors have the support that they need. And in turn, clients that come in to assure
their anonymity, to ensure that they get their needs met. And when we talk about veterans,
we're talking about 1% of the population of the United States. I'm one of them. So when Doug Collins,
the secretary of the VA said he would watch out for me, he would watch out for veterans and protect
us if he was nominated as the secretary. Well, of the 220,000 of us that lost our positions,
but the government, many of us, many of us are veterans. And I'm one of them.
And folks, there are tens of thousands of stories just like this.
I'll just share a few more with you.
And I've went through them all.
And if I kept on showing these over and over again, I think you get the point.
I just I want to give these individuals cruel and unusual the treatment is by the Trump administration, by Elon Musk, against people who have sacrificed their lives for the United States of America. It's so horrific. Here is a veteran by the name of Andrew Lennox. He's speaking out after his job at Veterans Affairs
was terminated in the Doge Purge. Let's play it. I want to understand something because the grounds
for termination in your case and so many others is basically a question of whether your continued
employment was in the, quote, public interest. What is your reaction to that? So, yeah, that's the exact language that was on the termination notification.
It's my reaction at first.
It was surprise, you know, disbelief.
And I mean, this morning as I packed up my office, it's anger, you know, because it's
I was terminated for my performance.
I haven't even had a performance review.
Nobody consulted any,
you know, any supervisors or the director of our hospital before making these terminations.
So tell me about your job and why you wanted to work at the VA.
Yeah. So I spent 10 years in the Marine Corps. I loved it. Greatest job I ever had. And I made
the decision to transition into the civilian world
and for a little bit i i worked in civilian jobs i was at a pharmaceutical company for a little bit
and they sent me to a military friendly employers conference and i ended up sharing a table with
some veterans affairs social workers there's a marine corps vet and he was telling me about the
work he does and like looking at that group of people and the organizations to get back to veterans.
I made the decision. That is what I want to do. I want to continue serving my country.
And I thought there'd be no better way than helping veterans, my family, the people that gave me so much.
I'd like to get back in my role. There's an administrative officer for a primary care department of the hospital. So it's a lot of behind the scenes stuff. It's kind of eliminating
the red tape and friction that just comes into healthcare as far as like scheduling doctors,
the patients, making sure wait times are short, scheduling vacation, pay, ordering equipment,
all these things that we try and take the
administrative burden off of the doctors and the nurses and the care providers to get veterans
treated as quickly and effectively as possible. Here is another fired Army veteran speaking out
about the federal layoffs. Let's play it. Well, joining us tonight is Nelson Feliz Sr.,
a 30-year Army veteran who served as a first sergeant and spent more than a decade working for the Department of Veteran Affairs until he got a notice that he was being let go just a week ago.
Nelson, thanks for joining us tonight. I'm sorry about the difficult situation that you're in right now. Tell us, what type of work did you do for the VA? So I started back in Florida doing MSA work.
Now I work was working in a hospital doing background investigation for the VA, VHA and fingerprinting folks that were newly hired.
I got you. Yeah. Important work. I'm sure you enjoyed doing it doing it for 10 years
I know you wrote a letter appealing your termination tell us about how did you find
out you were being let go and what reason were you given well I didn't find out because uh
my normal workout was where that uh during the week so Friday I was off. So they were calling me, but I had my phone on
vibrate. It was Valentine's Day and little family time. And then I got a phone call from one of my
coworkers and told me, hey, you need to look at your email and see what's up. So then I found out
that at 7 p.m. they sent me a letter saying that I was terminated. And that just.
Yeah, shocking.
I'm sure to see that. Did they say it was for performance or did they give you any type of reason or did they just say you're out?
They just took it random.
And everybody that they send this letter to said it was performance.
But there's a form called 0750 that will show that
that was incorrect. Plus I had tenure. Yeah. You know, and a lot of veterans,
they end up working at, it shouldn't surprise you at the veterans department and veterans affairs,
which is just getting absolutely gutted. There could be about 50, 60, 70,000 veterans
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adults. As I said at the beginning, I wanted to share with you a video of a Trump supporter.
And here's what this Trump supporter, I don't know how the other people voted in the beginning of this video but this is a trump supporter right here is a fema civil servant and disabled military
veteran voted for trump now he's out of a job american veteran fired from fema told wtop quote
i voted for donald trump but this is not what i was expecting. We didn't think they were going to take a chainsaw
to a silk rug. The man said he was a Trump voter. He was fired by a White House official and said
in TV interviews that contradicts what White House officials have said, that these are like
far left people. He was dismissed as part of a widespread purge, yet the form email reads,
quote, the agency finds based on your performance that you have not demonstrated that your further
employment at the agency would be in the public interest. The government blames his firing on him.
WTOP says it reviewed his positive evaluations as a leader.
The man and his wife accepted that the U.S. needs to save money, but assumed that as a veteran of long service, he would have been safe.
They're calling their reps in Congress.
They thought it wasn't going to happen to them.
This nastiness, this devastation would just happen to others. We tried to warn you that it was going
to happen to you and it's going to happen to others if you don't stand up. Look, Americans
are pissed right now. U.S. consumer sentiment is plunging. Trump's approval ratings are plunging.
The University of Michigan's latest consumer survey shows American sentiment decline
in February for the second consecutive month. And it was a double digit decline from the month
before. Inflation already surging. And to that comment from the Trump supporter who said
he didn't think that they would take a chainsaw to a silk rug.
May I show you this video of Elon Musk at CPAC? Here, play this clip.
This is the chainsaw for bureaucracy. Chainsaw. or how about Stephen Miller blaming you, blaming our hardworking veterans and
federal workers as well, just federal workers in general who work every day for our government.
They're not seeking attention on social media. They're not out there
seeking the limelight like Trump and these MAGAs. They're out there working hard,
chopping wood every day to make sure that you and I and others in this country are safe and secure.
And then you have Stephen Miller saying things like that. Horrible. And here is Donald Trump's National Economic Council director,
Kevin Hassett. And he basically blames that these federal workers were bad workers,
is what he says. And he mocks them. And he basically says, oh, I guess people who get
fired never say they perform bad, right? Here, play this clip.
We're being told by a lot of people who have been let go at other agencies that they were told they were being dismissed because of poor performance.
When in some cases, they haven't even had a performance review yet because they've only been on the job a couple of months.
Yeah, I've never seen a person who was laid off for poor performance say that they were performing poorly.
Okay.
Good point.
Sure, Caitlin.
Just so you see as well, I'll leave you with this. There are other programs that they're cutting.
They're cutting jobs at the Veterans Affairs Crisis Hotline that deals with
suicidal veterans who are calling and need help or are in crisis, they're making cuts there. They're making cuts to 9-11 first responders.
Here, play this clip. The 9-11 health program taking a heavy hit from the Department of
Government Efficiency. The fund provides health care for thousands of first responders and
civilians. Well, new staff reductions could put lives at risk. Tom Muller has a closer look.
More than 137,000 people are enrolled in the 9-11 health program.
First responders and everyday New Yorkers exposed to the toxic dust,
battling health ailments and cancers.
The program created to keep them alive is now the latest target of budget cuts
under Elon Musk and Doge.
It's repulsive.
It's reckless.
You know, no wonder that we're seeing Republican voters as well It's repulsive. It's reckless. Musk are doing to our veterans, to our hard-working government workers who have worked every day to
keep us safe as well. They're trying to take away your Medicaid and Medicare, and they're going
after your social security. And what about just privacy? Privacy, right? We all value our privacy.
Why are they trying to tell us that Elon Musk and
billionaires get to go into our bank accounts, get to have our tax records, get to look at our
medical records, get access to our social security information, get access to all of the private data
about our families? Why do they get that?
And then Trump and Elon Musk and J.D. Vance and these right-wing media networks, they want to tell us, oh, because these people are so rich, they would never do anything
bad with it?
Come on, what are we talking about here?
That's not America.
We should not be okay with that, regardless of political party.
So stand up and make your voice heard okay we're in this together and my heart goes out to all of those veterans disabled veterans
who I showed you in this video who lost their jobs but also whose dignity was attacked as well
and that's an attack on the dignity, I think, of all veterans,
all hardworking government workers, all government workers.
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