The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump Is Cross-Examined by World Leaders and He Folds
Episode Date: August 11, 2025MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump being cross-examined by angry world leaders over his disastrous plans — and quickly folding. Head to https://qualialife.com/meidas and use prom...o code: MEIDAS at checkout for 15% OFF your purchase of Qualia's products. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Donald Trump got cross-examined by pissed off world leaders who were stunned by Donald Trump's message on Friday that he would be meeting this Friday with Vladimir Putin in Alaska, which is nothing short of a massive victory for Putin.
And these world leaders, our allies, mostly from Europe, said, get the hell on the phone right now.
Send J.D. Vance to Chevening in Kent in the United Kingdom. We're bringing him here. Send some of the top people from Ukraine. We're going to sort this out. What the hell did you tell Vladimir Putin was going to go down in Alaska? Did you tell him that Ukraine was going to give up 25% of the Zapritsia and Donesk's region? Did you tell Putin that? Because Putin's out there telling us, telling us,
a bunch of our enemies that that's what he was promised. Now, he's going to Alaska and also
bragging, by the way, that according to Putin's version of history, Alaska still belongs
to him. And he's laughing at you, Donald. He's laughing at J.D. Vince. He's laughing at the
United States. So what the hell did Steve Whitkoff your envoy to Russia? What did he say to Putin?
and what did Putin say to him?
Whitkoff is out there claiming that Putin was going to swap some land in Kedarsan
and give some land back to Ukraine.
Putin's not saying that.
So what the hell happened?
So what went down in Chievening in Kent in the United Kingdom, this beautiful manner,
was all the world leaders got on a call.
I mean, all of our, I guess, America's former allies based on the way Donald Trump treats Europe.
They all went on the phone.
They said, get Whitcomb.
on the phone.
Get your envoy to Russia on the phone.
And Whitkoff at first started to lie.
And Whitkoff was like, no, no, no.
Putin assured me that he would be giving some territory over to Zelensky.
If Zelensky gave some territory, this would be a territory swap.
Remember how Donald Trump on Friday talked about swapping territory?
And then, you know, it was French President Emmanuel Macron, Fredrik Mertz of Germany,
Prime Minister Kare Starmer, and others said, no, what did you really say to Putin?
And what did Putin say to you, Whitkoff?
And then Whitkoff's like, I don't know, I don't really.
That's what I believe we said.
So they said, get Whitkoff on the phone again.
We're not okay with this Whitkoff.
What the hell went down?
And then finally, Whitkoff has to sheepishly admit, well, maybe I got the translation wrong.
That's what Whitkoff says.
blaming it on the translator. Maybe I got the translation wrong. It's actually quite possible that all
Putin said was that he wanted 25% of Donetsk, 25% basically hand over Zaphrigia, hand over all of
this territory to Putin. And then Putin may consider a ceasefire. So that's why Putin's going to
Alaska. Putin's precondition to going to Alaska to meet with Donald Trump was that Trump and
Whitkoff had to endorse the following terms, the following stipulation. One, Ukraine and Europe
could not be at this meeting. Two, Donald Trump and Whitkoff had to go into this meeting agreeing
that Ukraine would give up major portions of land that belongs to Ukraine. That has not even
been taken over by Russia.
Heavily fortified land, key defensive Ukrainian positions, just turn that over to Russia.
First of it's against the Ukrainian constitution to do that.
It would also be the biggest infringement on Ukrainian sovereignty ever, and it basically amounts
to a surrender by Ukraine.
And so our European allies, I guess you can say former, based on the way Donald Trump treated
them, they went on and they said, that's not the way it's going to.
going to work, Donald. We're all going to be there. Maybe if we're not in the room, you will not make
any deal at all without Europe signing off on it, without Ukraine signing off on it. We're not being
cut out. This impacts our territory because the moment Putin takes over Ukraine. He's coming for
us next. So what the hell are you going to do about it, Donald? What the hell are you going to do
about it. So J.D. Vance at this Chevening conference, you can see right here, David Lammy is like
the foreign minister of the United Kingdom posted the following from Saturday. Today I hosted a meeting
with Andre Yermak, Office of the President of Ukraine, Rustam Mumerov, National Security Council
of Ukraine, J.D. Vance, and European National Security Advisors at Chevening. That's in Kent,
beautiful manner, to discuss the next steps for peace in Ukraine. The UK support for Ukraine,
remains ireclad as we continued to work towards a just and lasting peace.
So you have that taking place right there.
Andre Yermak writes this morning, together with Rustam Yumerev, again, these are the top
Ukrainian officials.
We met on Downing Street with UK Prime Minister's National Security Advisor Jonathan Powell.
We summed up the results of yesterday's multilateral meeting.
That's with David Lammy, multilateral meeting of advisors, and outlined the next steps.
A head lies an important week of diplomacy.
I am sincerely grateful to my personal friend and a true supporter of Ukraine,
Jonathan Powell, to Foreign Secretary of UK, David Lammy,
and to their teams for the exceptionally effective organization of the visit.
I also thank Prime Minister Kier Starrmer and the people of the United Kingdom
for their unwavering support for our country.
We are heading home.
Can I translate diplomatic speak for you?
when they say exceptionally effective organization of the visit,
that means everybody in Europe joined forces teamed up,
all of the leaders,
whether it was Macron, Starmer, Meritz,
and they said, they cornered J.D. and said,
what the hell are you doing?
Do you realize how stupid this is, J.D.?
You realize how dumb you and Donald Trump are being?
That's the diplomatic translation right there.
And, okay, let me now show you what French president,
Emmanuel Macron had to say, and I'll translate this diplomatic speak for you as well.
Macron goes, I have just spoken with President Zelensky, as well as with Chancellor
Merits of Germany and Prime Minister Starmor, UK Prime Minister.
We remain determined to support Ukraine, working in a spirit of unity and building on the work
undertaken within the framework of the Coalition of the Willing.
Coalition of the Willing refers to all of our former allies, just not the United States,
because the United States is the unwilling.
Ukraine's future cannot be decided without the Ukrainians
who have been fighting for their freedom and security
for over three years now.
Europeans will also necessarily be a part of the solution
as their own security is at stake.
I will continue to coordinate closely with President Zelensky
and our European partners.
So then Germany's chancellor, their main leader,
Mertz, Frederick Mertz, goes,
I will call Trump today.
We are preparing on a European,
level for this meeting in Alaska together with the U.S. government so that President Zelensky
is included. In any case, we cannot accept that in matters of territorial questions, talks
conducted, or even decisions made between the USA and Russia without a European or Ukrainian
participation. I assume that the U.S. government shares this view. This is why we have these discussions.
We cannot accept that the entire European security architecture is threatened by Russia.
That is why there cannot be peace if Russia would be rewarded for aggression, which potentially encourages even more.
Here is Frederick Mertz himself, the German chancellor.
Watch him say it in his own words.
Here, play this clip.
I will have another phone call with President Trump today.
We are preparing intensively.
at the European level, together with the American government, for this meeting, and we hope and
assume that the government of Ukraine, that President Zelensky will be involved in this meeting.
In any case, we cannot accept that territorial issues between Russia and America are discussed or even
decided over the heads of Europeans and Ukrainians. I assume that the American government
sees it the same way. That is why there is this close coordination. We cannot accept that the
entire European security is further threatened by Russia, and therefore there can be no peace that
rewards Russian aggressive actions and possibly encourages and emboldens further actions.
That is the message we have jointly expressed here, and I am really grateful that we are in a
very, very close dialogue with the Americans. What happens on Friday in Alaska,
must not remain without result. It must have consequences, either in the direction of increasing
pressure on Russia once again, or that Russia realizes on its own that this war cannot be continued.
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As Igor Sushko
writes, this would be funny if it
wasn't so sad. Trump's special
envoy, Steve Witkoff,
now claims he misunderstood
Putin. When Putin demanded
Ukraine withdraw from its
own Kershan and Zepritia
regions, Wittkoff thought Putin
meant Russia would withdraw its
forces from those
regions. Seriously? Then you
have the NATO ambassador, Matthew Whitaker, on Ukraine's territorial concessions. And I want you to
listen to what he says here. He goes, no big chunks or sections are going to just be given that
haven't been fought for or earned in the battlefield. As Michael McFaul writes, earned, since when do
U.S. diplomats describe imperial invasion and occupation as earned?
Who describes it this way?
Shocking this Trump regime.
Shocking.
Here, play this clip right here.
Certainly, I think, you know, I took Zelensky's comments at face value,
which is that no big chunks or, you know, sections are going to be just given that haven't been fought for or earned on the battlefield.
You know, but I come back to where I started, which is, you know, we need this war to end.
We could save thousands of lives with a deal.
And I think that by both sides, communicating by President Trump meeting in Alaska on Friday with either one or both of the combatants, I think this is exciting.
And I think President Trump's really the only one that could make this happen.
You know, he's the sole reason I think this meeting is happening on Friday.
He's a peacemaker.
You know, he's averaging about a peace deal a month right now.
We saw just this week where Armenia and Azerbaijan came together to settle their decades-long conflict.
It's, you know, it's been a series of peace deals.
And so, you know, I think President Trump is best situated to see if a deal can be had
and if both sides can agree to ending the slaughter.
Now, here is NATO Secretary General Mark Rut.
Here's what he has to say.
He goes, we need Ukraine at the table.
Ukraine decides its own future.
Here, play this clip.
As I understand it, the European leaders are in agreement.
that there needs to be a ceasefire first before anything else,
that if Ukraine pulls out of any territory,
Russia needs to pull out of territory as well,
and that if there is an agreement here,
Ukraine must have security guarantees,
including the possibility of some time acceding to NATO membership.
Do you believe that Donald Trump is on board with all of that?
Well, I believe you're,
European leaders and Ukraine brought out a good statement last night after successful talks
with Vice President Vance in London.
It's important that the U.S. is engaging with European allies and with Ukraine to prepare
for the meeting on Friday.
And of course, when it comes to full-skill negotiations, and let's hope that Friday will
be an important step in that process.
We need Ukraine at the table.
It will be about territory.
It will be, of course, about security guarantees.
but also about the absolute need to acknowledge that Ukraine decides on its own future,
that Ukraine has to be a sovereign nation deciding on our own geopolitical future,
of course, having no limitations to its own military troop levels,
and for NATO to have no limitations on our presence on the eastern flank
in countries like Latvia, Estonia and Finland.
And I think that Sir J. Sumlin describes the symbolism of Putin for a last,
well, here's how Sergei says, as a person who was born and socialized in Russia, I tell you what Putin and Russia think about having a Putin Trump meeting in Alaska. It means Putin goes to Russia. Let me explain why. First, you need to know that the Alaska myth is essential for Russia. In my school in a town close to Moscow, I was taught in geography class in the 1990s that Russia never sold Alaska to the U.S. But least,
it for 100 years, that the U.S. have later forged the contract and broken the original one,
that Alaska has always been Russian. So yes, this whole negotiating framework is symbolically
and literally fruitful for Putin. One can hardly imagine a better setting for Russia. Putin will
enjoy humiliating Trump and the U.S. Oh yes, he will enjoy each moment of this triumph, and you will not
even notice how you will be getting humiliated, Donald. But Europe recognizes it. That's why they
cross-examined on Whitkoff at Chevening. The hell are you guys doing? And then Whitkoff gets smoked out
and Whitkoff goes, oh, actually, yeah, man, I guess Putin wanted all the territory that is under
control of Ukraine. Oopsies, oopsies. Whitkoff has no diplomatic experience. Whitkoff has no
foreign policy experience. Whitkoff is just one of Donald Trump's
like buddies from back in the day who was like a real estate guy who has no clue what the hell
he's doing and he should not be representing the united states no one in the trump regime should
it's so utterly embarrassing but that's the cross exam so now the setup is europe and ukraine
saying you could have this meeting but we're going to be involved one way or another and that's
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