The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump Lawyers Accidentally EXPOSE how WEAK Defense Is on LIVE TV
Episode Date: January 3, 2024MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s lawyers recent television appearances where their defense of Donald Trump is so weak it seems as if they are almost admissions. Get a free t...hirty-day supply of SuperBeets Heart Chews and free full-sized bag of tumeric chews valued at $25 by going to https://meidasbeets.com Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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President is elected by the entire nation and it should be the entire nation who determines who
they want for president, whether they're guilty of insurrection or not, it's up to the people. It's Donald Trump's lawyer, Christina Bob, right there. And yes, you heard that right. She says
that it should be the nation that determines who the president is, even if they are guilty
of insurrection. Even if they are guilty of insurrection, you mean the 14th Amendment, Section 3, doesn't matter? You mean
what Jefferson Davis should have been able to run for president? What, you mean that
someone can have engaged in an insurrection like your client Donald Trump, and you think that that
is just okay? Really? But that's the caliber of lawyer that Donald Trump has. By the way,
I'm Ben Micellis. This is the Minus Touch Network where facts matter.
That's the new talking point that Donald Trump has his lawyers going out to the various right-wing media and saying, for example, this was an interview Alina Haba just conducted with Fox over the past few days.
And in this interview, she says, look, we take a look at the case law here.
We're very careful with the case law here. And ultimately, we want the Supreme Court to
listen to this and deliberate over these issues. Except Alina Habba, it's different than what
Alina Habba said last weekend, frankly, different than what your actions were. Take a look at what
Alina Habba says right here.
Play this clip.
Some of us understand what the Constitution says.
Due process.
There are certain amendments that are still enabled by the Constitution that we have to abide by.
And I think the Supreme Court will do the right thing.
They'll give us some clarity on this.
But I can tell you that these are so crazy.
The Jack Smiths, the DAs, the AGs, they've become so deranged,
so obsessed with taking down Trump that the law doesn't make sense to them because they don't
care about it. But people like me, we take it one step at a time. We look at case law. We look at
things that are precedent for this country. We look at the Constitution. And we will raise those
all the way up to the Supreme Court when we have to. And they're taking issue with this. You just saw Jack
Smith get shut down because he tried to rush his trial, his bogus trial, because he wants it before
the election. We got Fannie in Georgia doing the same thing. This Maine woman that thinks she's a
lawyer, she's another one. You're not making a good name for yourself and you're going to go down on the wrong side of history. It's like a stream of the worst
lawyer's consciousness just spewing, I don't know, magamush masquerading as legal analysis
on Fox and other right-wing networks. She says that special counsel Jack Smith got shut down before the Supreme Court, that he's getting shut down.
Well, it is your client's appeal.
And you went on Fox, Alina Haba, right before Jack Smith went to the Supreme Court and said,
Supreme Court, you need to listen to Donald Trump's appeal on the issue of absolute
presidential immunity because you, Alina Haber, were on Fox saying that the Supreme Court should
listen to this now. You said you wanted the Supreme Court to hear the petition for certiorari,
if you even know what a petition for certiorari means. Remember when you said that on Fox here?
Play this clip. And I believe someone had called on the Supreme Court to do this exact thing.
We need the Supreme Court to step in and stop this.
This has become complete mayhem.
And if they don't start looking at these decisions and as the highest court in this country,
as the arbiter of law, the ultimate arbiter of the Constitution, the people that are supposed
to enforce our bedrock, if they don't start doing it, which thank goodness they are, we have some law
and order hopefully soon. Oh, and then in terms of Alina Haba saying that she knows all of the
case law and that from the prior clip that I played earlier in this video, remember when Alina
Haba said that? How about you don't know Blassingame v. Trump, the case involving your client? Remember
when the Second Circuit asked you, Alina Haba, about the Blassingame decision? And you said,
I don't know what the Blassingame decision holds. Remember that? Here, play this clip.
Okay. Are you familiar with Blassingame v. Trump, the DC Circuit case that was recent?
Let me see if it's in my... Not off the top of my head, Your Honor.
Okay.
I'd just be, they got this issue before we did.
And obviously it is not finding authority on us, but it is persuasive.
And I was hoping that you could react to it, but you don't have any reaction to it at this time.
I don't, but I can say that if it's not from the Supreme Court,
and the Supreme Court has made very clear that we are not to extend Bivens unless it passes the two factor test.
My colleague.
That's a that's a that's a official act case.
It's more dealing with the immunity.
OK, but if you're not.
I'm happy to talk about the immunity and official acts. Actually, Mr. Cohen's complaint states on paragraph 47 that at all relevant
times herein, the individual defendants acted within the course and scope of their employment
and under the color of law. So right there, never mind Bivens, the president, he admits
that the president was working within his job as the president of the United States,
and his complaint fails under absolute immunity.
So under two, frankly, it fails on two levels.
I can speak generally of Nixon.
The case serves as an independent basis of dismissing appellant's case against President Trump. As I stated, a former president of the United States is entitled to absolute immunity from
damages liability predicated on his official acts. That was stated in the Nixon v. Fitzgerald case.
But that is precisely what appellant is attempting to do. The complaint specifically
alleges, as I said, that he was working within the course and scope of his employment.
So for those reasons alone,
it must be dismissed under Nixon.
And then appellant also tried to skirt this issue
by claiming that President Trump's alleged conduct
was done in bad faith.
I mentioned this prior,
but my client adamantly, first of all,
denies that he had any involvement whatsoever
in the conduct alleged in the complaint.
And there is no specific facts that go to President Trump.
Let's remember there were seven counts. One, one was against President Trump and it had no factual
basis. But regardless. And so I think I thank you for your time. My colleagues don't have it.
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Okay, newsflash.
The Blassing Game decision is a civil case which holds that Donald Trump does not have absolute presidential immunity for conduct
falling outside the outer perimeter of his responsibilities when he was the president, when he disgraced the Oval Office, because
campaigning, election activity, interfering with state election process falls outside the outer
perimeter. So for two reasons, Donald Trump doesn't have absolute presidential immunity.
One, on the grounds that there is no such thing as absolute presidential immunity in the context of
criminal cases against former presidents, as special counsel Jack Smith argues.
And for the additional reasoning and logic by the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals back on December 1st in the Blassingame decision that even if it was an unusual circumstance where you can say this implied absolute presidential immunity exists, it doesn't here because it falls outside of the outer perimeter
of official presidential responsibility. Then, of course, you can get into the amicus briefs that
we talk a lot about here on the Midas Touch Network. For example, one filed by actual legal
experts, the top lawyers from five former presidential administrations, actual legal
scholars who all came together and said,
we worked in the Justice Department, we worked at various levels of government in top positions.
And under the Executive Vesting Clause, Article 2 of the Constitution, for this additional reason,
Donald Trump's arguments would violate the transition of power as codified in Article 2
of the United States Constitution.
And then you have American Oversight, which filed an amicus brief saying this should not
even be heard by the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals on an interlocutory appeal because
federal judge Tanya Chutkin's order, the district court order, is not a collateral
order and therefore no direct appeal should be permitted.
We should wait until after conviction.
But that's actually, Alina Haba, what the experts are saying then.
Here Alina Haba then went on Breitbart,
and here she is always having to go to do ad hominem attacks
because there is no logic to her argument.
So watch how quickly she starts saying Soros prosecutors.
Play this clip.
You know, we're motivated.
We have a great team and the
facts are on our side. The law is on our side. The problem is that we have corruption and politics
permeating our judicial system. So as long as we can get some people who really put their robes on
and take it seriously and get rid of some of the corruption in these Soros backing AGs and DAs.
Oh, yes, it's the Soros prosecutors.
There's nothing anti-Semitic about that.
Just to go blame the Soros prosecutors, that they're the ones who have created a cabal
and they're the ones who are responsible for this.
I mean, how pathetic can you get where you have to say these Soros prosecutors?
Also, here's the other argument that she makes on Breitbart, where she says how the other
side, he goes, they have to lie and cheat and steal.
Here, play this clip.
What do you think is going on there?
Shocking.
Isn't it shocking?
It's shocking that he's going to be tied up in court.
You know, it's like what I said before.
They can't beat him.
So they have to use, you know, corrupt methods, lie, cheat and steal.
And part of that is tying him up in court so that he can't be out in Iowa and he can't be out where he needs to be campaigning.
Whether they win or lose, they don't care.
They've already in their minds done what they wanted.
And I think they would go so far as to try and put him in jail if they could.
And it's a very frightening time. So it's worth reflecting on the fact that
Donald Trump's defense, if you will, is not built on, I did not do it. Donald Trump's defense
consistently is, I could do whatever I want to do, right? What's his argument about why he shouldn't be disqualified under the 14th Amendment,
Section 3?
What's his argument?
His argument is, I never took the oath to support the United States Constitution.
There it is right there.
You see it highlighted right there.
That was his argument.
I never took the oath to support the Constitution, nor am I an officer.
As the office of the presidency, I was not an officer.
That's what he argued.
And what's Donald Trump's argument when it comes to absolute presidential immunity?
That.
I can do whatever I want to do.
If you accept as true all of the accusations in special counsel Jack Smith's indictment,
those are official acts.
I'm permitted to do it. There is no such thing as criminal exposure if you are Article 2, if you're the
president. The only thing that applies to you is the impeachment judgment clause. And if you are
outside of the impeachment judgment clause, there's nothing that the criminal process can do.
You can do whatever you want to do. That's Trump's argument. Didn't take the oath, not an officer,
absolute presidential immunity. So in terms of lie, cheat, and steal, Donald Trump would say,
I'm immune. I never took the oath to support the constitution. And so sorry, I'm not an officer. And I don't know, Alina,
but maybe you should read the blasting game decision as it relates to your own client and
is what the law is. But nah, just, you know what, just go on all these right wing, you and Christine
and Bob, just keep on doing what you are doing and build up that portfolio of evidence for special counsel Jack Smith. So
ultimately, you both can whine when you get sanctioned or when you lose. Then you could
brag about how you lost and how you got sanctioned almost a million dollars because that's something
that dignified lawyers do, whining about being sanctioned and act like that's a good thing.
Here, play this clip right here. This is from an event that Alina Haba attended two to three weeks ago. And she brags about getting sanctioned
by a federal judge for bringing a patently frivolous case against Hillary Clinton and
numerous other defendants where Haba was sanctioned nearly a million dollars. Play this clip. That got assigned to a Clinton appointed
judge. What do you think happened? Nobody's heard of the case, right? Because it's gone.
I never met the judge. I never walked into the courtroom.
There were probably 50 lawyers representing all of the radical left. Clinton's
lawyers, Mook's lawyers, and the list goes on and on and on. One month, it got dismissed,
and me and President Trump got sanctioned a million dollars for going against crooked Hillary. You didn't know that,
did you? Fake news, folks. Fake news. They won't report it. But guess what? We paid that million
and we're going to keep on fighting. Well, there you have it, folks. Tell me how you think about this, how you feel about this in the comments below.
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