The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump Loses It in AM as Admin Falls Into Perjury Trap
Episode Date: February 4, 2026MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s awful morning as he gets hit with more devastating news about the destruction he is causing to the American people and across the world. Meise...las highlights this morning’s congressional hearing where Donald Trump‘s Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is caught lying through his teeth. Go to https://TryMiracle.com/Meidas and use the code MEIDAS to claim your free 3-piece towel set and save over 40% off. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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slash moments to get started. Donald Trump is having a terrible morning, some devastating headlines.
So he sent his Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to Capitol Hill to lie about the economy, to lie about tariffs.
And moments ago, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent was caught committing perjury.
He was asked a question about whether he, when he was running a private equity company, if he said tariffs were inflationary, he said, oh, I never sent a letter like that.
Well, we actually have the letter where he literally says that tariffs are inflationary.
So he was just caught lying to Congress, which I think should carry with its serious implications.
We'll go over that in just a moment as well.
But look at some of these grim headlines from various media outlets.
And it should be noted as well.
The Washington Post today announced massive layoffs.
It's going to be cutting about one third of its staff.
Sports Department, Middle East Department, is all being absolutely gutted by Jeff Bezos,
who gave $70 million to the...
failing Melania movie and has destroyed the Washington Post. So just we can add that to the Kennedy Center
and all the other things that Donald Trump is destroying. Great job Jeff Bezos and Donald Trump.
But take a look at some of these dark headlines from the New York Times. Former farming leaders
warned that U.S. agriculture could face widespread collapse. A group of past government officials and former
heads of farming associations on a bipartisan basis issued a dire warning to members of
Congress. Or how about this from the financial times? Food and drink companies suffer as U.S.
shopper sentiment sinks. Groups report soft sales and plans to cut prices as consumer confidence falls
to its weakest level in more than a decade. Actually, the University of Michigan Consumer
Confidence reports show the worst consumer confidence in many, many decades. Really, it's never
been this bad since the Great Recession or the Great Depression.
I mean, it's that bad.
U.S. manufacturing in retreat.
This is from the Wall Street Journal.
I'm giving you a variety of headlines
from different media outlets
with different ideological bends,
just so you can see that I want to give you
a holistic view right here.
From the Wall Street Journal,
U.S. manufacturing is in retreat
and Trump's tariffs aren't helping.
Levees on imports were supposed to bring back
a golden age of U.S. manufacturing.
They haven't worked so far.
We all knew tariffs weren't going to do that.
Tariffs are inflationary.
They are a tax on American companies that are passed on to consumers.
Or how about this from the Cato at Liberty Organization?
This totally imaginary $18 trillion political talking point of Donald Trump
continues to be repeated endlessly in the hope that nobody in the public or press
would ever be brave enough to rudely ask for some explanation or shred of evidence.
And you know here at the Midas Touch Network, the moment Donald Trump started saying, I did this trillion dollar deal.
And that trillion dollar deal, we said, okay, well, then show us the documents.
Because what I do every morning here in the Midas Touch Network and throughout the day is I go through the documents.
I go through the footnotes.
I go through the charts.
I go through the graphs.
And people say, well, Ben, doesn't your audience find that boring?
No, that's what we want.
We don't need to see a split screen of people who don't know what they're talking about,
shouting and yelling at each other.
We want the data and information
so we could be informed citizens
and understand what the hell is happening.
That's also why the Epstein files
is absolutely so devastating
for this regime since they're in the center of the cabal.
And Donald Trump is at the center of this cabal
with Epstein.
And again, I'm not saying that to be hyperbolic.
I've done deep dive emails
where I go through the 38,000 references
to Donald Trump on fire.
thousand documents and it's only been a partial release of the Epstein files. There's still three million
more files that have not been produced, which could be 25 to 50 million pages. We've showed you the
references and the communications that were taking place between Bannon and Epstein and their
communications about Trump and toppling governments. We showed you the communications with Epstein
and Prime Minister Ehud, former Prime Minister Ehud, Barack of Israel, talking about influencing
foreign governments and influence operations, the communications about meetings with Vladimir Putin,
meetings with former Prime Minister of Norway, meetings with the royal family in the United Arab
Emirates. And all these connections and links are here right now. I mean, this right-wing oligarchy
that's behind the scenes, pulling the strings while engaging in child sex trafficking in the
Epstein files, and these people, many of them are still around, and they're screwing your lives.
and they're making things very difficult and psychologically torturing people.
That's what's actually going on right now.
So when Donald Trump says, it's time to turn the piece,
this is what he keeps on repeating.
He said it again.
It's time we turn the page on the Epstein scandal.
No, as Governor Hockel says of New York, it won't matter.
His name is on the next page too.
So let me show you this because Bannon's name was all over the Epstein files.
He was in like daily text message communications with Epstein about Trump, about everything going on.
And then even knowing that, Donald Trump's been posting photos of Bannon on his social media platform.
Well, Bannon said this morning that Donald Trump will use ice in order to surround the polls.
And I guess block people from voting.
This is what Bannon posted this morning.
This is not getting attention really anywhere else.
This is what he said on his own.
podcast this morning. Yeah, I think this should be front page news. Here, play this clip right here.
You're damn right. We're going to have ICE surround the polls come November. We're not going to
sit here and allow you to steal the country again. And you can, you can whine and cry and throw
your toys out of the pram all you want, but we will never again allow an election to be stolen.
Now, as I said, I want to bring you into that hearing where Treasury Secretary Scott Besson
committed perjury moments ago.
Watch as Congresswoman Waters was cross-examining Bessent, and he said that he never said in a letter that tariffs are inflationary.
I'm going to play this clip in a moment, but here's the letter that he sent from his private equity company,
Key Square Capital Management LLC when he was running it, January 31, 2024, Dear Partners,
we begin 2024 with a set of three high-conviction ideas that are based on what the Key Square investment team perceives as,
as anomalies, erroneous conventional wisdom, or various perceptions on our part.
Go on.
Another differentiated view that we have is that Trump will pursue a weak dollar policy rather
than implementing tariffs.
Tariffs are inflationary and would strengthen the dollar, hardly a good starting point
for a U.S. Industrial Renaissance.
Weakening the dollar early in a second administration would make U.S. manufacturing competitive.
A weak dollar, plentiful cheap energy could power a boom.
The current Wall Street consensus is for a strong dollar based on the tariffs.
We strongly disagree.
A strong dollar should emerge by the end of his term if the U.S. reshoring efforts is successful.
Well, I showed you all the headlines that manufacturing is in a recession right now.
That letter is signed, Scott Bessent and the Key Square Team.
Okay, that's what I mean.
I show you the data.
Here's what Besson said at the hearing.
Play this clip.
Details about this.
But did you write a letter to investors raising concerns about the impact of tariffs,
writing that, quote, tariffs are inflationary?
Did you say that at that time?
Yes or no.
No.
Okay.
Thank you.
Okay.
We have a New York Times article that, you know, agrees that you said that.
Then last summer, when you testified,
before a Senate committee, you said in our quote, there is no inflation.
Tariffs are not being passed on to consumers.
You are quite, you were quite definitive, and even claim that critics had, quote, tariff
derangement syndrome.
Well, those comments are at odds with the statement you made to investors that tariffs are
inflationary.
Again, I want to be clear.
So just let me ask you, are tariffs?
Inflationary?
Yes or no?
According to the San Francisco Federal Reserve with 150 years of data,
tariffs do not cause inflation.
San Francisco federal...
Well, last November, as the Trump administration finally began to realize...
150 years of data.
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lie about everything. The way Howard Lutnik said, Epstein, I've never spoken to him ever since 2005.
And then he's all over the file speaking to Epstein. I don't know about you, but I'm just sick and
tired of these people who just lie to us all of the time. Well, we're just trying to live our
freaking lives. That's what to me it's about. And that's not a Democrat, Republican, or
independent issue. That's just, can we be normal issue? Speaking of which you have
Congressmember Green, Democratic Congress Member Green, cross-examining Bessent about,
do you think that it's okay? Do you have any concerns that Donald Trump tells people to buy
his DJT stock to inflate it and manipulate the market? Like, you're the Treasury Secretary.
Does that bother you?
Here, play this clip.
I ask you kindly, and as one professional to another, Mr. Treasury Secretary, you think
that this should be investigated?
The president's stock being linked to his truth, social message, and that stock having gone
up by some $415 million in a single day, in a single day, and this is a stock that was doing
very poorly prior to that hadn't had a lot of success.
You think that this should be investigated?
No, sir.
Kindly explained to me why we would not investigate the president making such an announcement
as it relates to his stock and then reaping some $415 million as a potential capital.
Well, all Americans benefited from the rebound in the market.
that day, and in fact, a rebound in the market after that was the fastest in market history.
Yes.
And then instead of answering questions from Democratic House members, Besant has like a list of notes from the White House, as Aaron Rupert writes,
and he just starts attacking, attacking, attacking, that whoever's asking the question, play this clip.
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any bank charter or licensing application at the OCC connected to the World Liberty Financial
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Oh, you have asked is yes or no?
No, Congressman.
The OCC is an independent entity, and I would know, Congressman, in 2006, you traveled to Venezuela to lobby.
I take that as a no.
On behalf of your donor, gentlemen, you do not want to answer that question.
I take that as a no.
For a seven billion.
I'm asking you to do your responsibility as Secretary of the Treasury.
into a venous way like you do not your makes will you you cannot erase should also be noted that
republican senator tom tillis of north carolina had the following to say on cnbc this morning play this
clip i just wanted to ask you what your reaction is to the to the reaction of the president by your
comments not i don't think necessarily just in this particular case but he called you a loser
recently because of some of the comments that you made about Christy Noem and also Stephen Miller.
Yeah, I said that obviously qualifies me to be the Homeland Security Secretary and Senior Advisor
to the President. Look, these are the people who are losing. Stephen Miller is the one who
went down the rabbit hole of Greenland before he went down the rabbit hole of plusing up resources
of Minneapolis in creating a horrible situation there. Christy Gnome has failed.
both in terms of her ICE roll and in terms of her response to Helene in North Carolina.
I mean, they're behind by about a year and a half.
There's no comparison between Christy Knoem and this administration
and President Trump's first administration, which was extraordinary.
So you want to use that kind of language?
You know, I'm fine.
If that qualifies me for at least two senior positions for the president,
because I consider them losers, then we'll move on.
Otherwise, we could act like adults use adult language and get things done.
And then Donald Trump is posting away about ballrooms and golden arches or whatever the hell he's talking about.
But that's what's happening this morning.
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