The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump makes Lutnick Fall Guy in Epstein Dump?!!

Episode Date: February 1, 2026

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s DOJ releasing Epstein files that reference Howard Lutnick’s numerous interactions with Epstein which directly contradicts statements Lutnick made to the public saying he hadn’t spoken to Epstein since 2005. iRestore: Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser and get exclusive savings on the iRestore Elite, use code TRUTH at https://irestore.com/TRUTH #irestorepod Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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in the recent release of a substantial portion of the Epstein files. Still a substantial portion of the Epstein files remain missing, but a good deal of documents was produced on Friday, and Howard Lutnik's name appeared over and over again. Howard Lutnik and representatives on Lutnik's behalf were sending messages to Jeffrey Epstein and representatives on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein coordinating trips to Epstein's island. Epstein was donating money to award ceremonies where Howard Lutnik received awards.

They were having business interactions with each other. They were describing who their nannies were on emails with each other and with each other's representatives. and it seemed that they knew each other fairly well and had consistent interactions. But you see, Howard Lutnik, like the liar that he is, had continued to tell the public that he's had no interactions with Jeffrey Epstein since 2005.

And as Howard Lutnik tells the story, which we now know is an utter lie, he says that he and Jeffrey Epstein lived right next to each other in New York City. That part is true. Everything else after that, now we know, is 100% false, like everything else that spews out of Howard Lutnik's mouth. So Howard Lutnik described what he claimed was his first and only interaction with Jeffrey

Epstein. Lutnik said that Epstein comes over, invites Lutnik to show up at Epstein's townhouse, that Lutnik shows up, and Epstein shows Lutnik the massage table. And Lutnik says, oh, this is gross. Lutnik says he leaves immediately, goes home and tells his wife, this Jeffrey Epstein guy is a creep. He's disgusting. And then Howard Lutnik says,

since that one interaction in 2005, I had no interaction with that disgusting human being. Not a professional, not a personal interaction. No interactions. And recently, Howard Lutnik gave an interview with Miranda Devine from the New York Post where Howard Lutnik spewed those lies over and over again. And now,

we see the files that were released on Friday, we know what we suspected before that that was an utter lie because everything Lutnik says is a total lie. So first, let me just show you the portion of the interview with Miranda Devine where Howard Lutnik says, I've never seen that creepy guy ever again, that disgusting guy, he says it like that since 2005. Watch this clip, let's play that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again. So I was never in the room with him socially for business or even philanthropy. If that guy was there, I wasn't going because he's gross. All right.

Now let's go through some of the emails that were released on Friday. So there are some who suspect that Howard Lutnik maybe is the fall guy. in these Epstein files. Maybe the plan right here is to put Howard Lutnik out front and center as somebody who was involved with Epstein and make him the face of the regime's closeness with Epstein. However, the regime and Donald Trump appear over and over again in the Epstein files. But first, let's take a look at this email right here. This is an email from David Ratner to Jeffrey Epstein.

And here's what it says. This email is from November 14th, 2017. Hi, Jeffrey. Many thanks for your incredible donation in honor of Howard Lutnik. Would you like to take an ad and offer your own words of congratulations in our commemorative journal? Are you able to join us at the event itself on December 11th? And would you like a table inclusive of your generosity? Thank you.

and this was in response to Jeffrey Epstein, writing to someone named John Paulson on November 8th, 2017, saying $50,000 from me. Hope PR is okay. He gave $50,000 to an event where Howard Lutnik was being honored at. How about this email right here? Dated December 19th, 2012 through December 20th of 2012. Remember, Howard Lutnik said that he had no. communications with Epstein at all because he said Epstein was disgusting. And he claimed he had no interaction since 2005. Well, let's take a look. Howard Lutnik, email, dated, December 19, 2012.

Hi, Jeff. We are landing in St. Thomas early Saturday afternoon and planning to head over to St. Bart's Anguilla on Monday at some point. Where are you located? What is the exact location for my captain? Does Sunday evening for dinner sound good? I have another couple, Michael and Marcy Lairman, with me on my boat. And each of us has four children. Two-16s, two-fourteens, a 13, a 12, and 11, and a 7-year-old. Thanks, Howard, and then there's a response right here. Jeffrey Epstein to his assistant, Leslie Groff, December 19th.

Come Saturday or Sunday lunch, little St. James on the map behind Christmas Cove. Then Leslie Grove responds, FYI, I will let you know what he says. She's going to be reaching out on his behalf to Howard Lutnik about coming to the island and seeing Jeffrey Epstein. How about this email right here? October 3rd, 2013, where you have Jeffrey Epstein to a guy by the name of Richard Kahn.

It is a resume of Howard Lutnik's nanny. Attached is the resume of Lutnik's nanny. I'm trying to arrange a time, via Peter for you to meet her. That's apparently how close they were. They were talking about each other's nannies. How about this email right here? December 21st, 2012.

And December 20th, 2012. You have Howard Lutnik to Leslie Groff, who's Epstein's assistant. Okay, lunch on Sunday, see you then. Then Leslie Groff to Matthew Lutnik. Seems like a family affair here. Hi, Matthew and Candice. Might you be able to give redacted a few more details regarding lunch this Sunday?

Do you know if it will just be Howard and his wife? Any kids coming along? Will they arrive at Jeffrey Epstein's island via their boat? And around what time is good for them? If you could pass along when you know that would be great and ced here. Or the time that Howard Lutnik invited Jeffrey Epstein to a Hillary Clinton fundraiser at Canter Fitzgerald in 2015, when Howard Lutnik purported to be a Democrat. But Howard Lutnik's entire life is being a phony

and it's just about proximity to power and he was positioning himself to get a position of power. And also, it appears to deal with issues of his dark past as well. Take a look right here, November 3rd, 2015. This is from Howard Lutnik. I would like to invite you, this is to Epstein's people. I would like to invite you to attend a very intimate, fundraising event with Hillary Clinton from 5.30 p.m. to 6.30 p.m. at Canter Fitzgerald's office on

November 1st. Please RSVP. Again, Howard Lutnik to Jeffrey Epstein right there. So now there are stories like this. Howard Lutnik visited Epstein Island, new releases show, but it's important to remember that Howard Lutnik is a complete and utter liar. I showed you the smaller portion of that clip earlier in this video, let me share with you here when Howard Lutnik speaks with Miranda Devine and here Howard Lutnik talks about that interaction in 2005 and watch what a sociopath is as he lies through his teeth. Watch the ease with which he lies and how he almost enjoys it. It's quite disgusting to watch here play this clip. He was your neighbor for 10 years. How well did you know him?

All right. So we are in number 11, and he lives in number nine. Right. So we renovate, we buy our house, and our house is pigeons and mice. Right. Okay. It was derelict. Right. So we build, we rebuild our house. We move in in 2005. Okay. Jeffrey Epstein is arrested in like 08, I think, or something like that.

So knock on the door, his assistant, on like a Saturday, he says, Mr. Epstein. your neighbor would like to invite you over for coffee. So my wife and I go next door. You know, we walk the seven steps, right, to the next house for coffee. We share a wall. Right. Right. So it's in New York City.

So he invites us in. We have coffee in this. And he says, do you want a tour? We said, great. Interesting. He's got a really big house. Every room you went into? He's got, well, I'll tell you.

So his house is like super big. really wide. And so he gives me a tour in the living room, big living room, and then across from it is double doors, I assume it's the dining room.

Yeah. And he opens the doors, and there's a massage table in the middle of the room. And candles all around and stuff. So I ask very insightful, cutting questions. I say to him,

massage table in the middle of your house, how often you have a massage? And he said, every day. And then he like gets like weirdly close to me. And he says, and the right kind of massage. Now my wife is standing here. So she looks at me and I look at her and we say, I'm sorry, we have to go. And we left. And in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again. So I was never in the room with him socially for business or even philanthropy.

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And so Miranda Devine asks him, She's the reporter from the New York Post. So why did people like Bill Gates and all these other people hang out around him? Howard Lutnik gives an explanation. But maybe are you telling on yourself Howard Lutnik? Because you were hanging out with Epstein at the same time you're talking about others hanging out with Epstein. Here, play this clip. I mean, that's an incredible story that you could pick up that he was a pervert.

It's gross. The guy's gross. Right? With my wife. The guy's gross. This was not, oh, the deep nuance of Howard Lutnik. This guy is gross. Right.

So how come Bill Gates and all these other people could hang around him and not see what you saw? Or did they see it and ignore it? No, they participated. Right. That's what his MO was, you know, get a massage, get a massage. And what happened in that massage room, I assume was on video. This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever. Blackmail people.

That's how he had money. So. So what happened? happened to those videos? Why is there now such a dearth of information when, you know, Donald Trump's people are running the FBI and the DOJ? I assume way back when they traded those videos in exchange for him getting that 18 months sentence, which allowed him to have visits and be out of jail. I mean, he's a serial sex offender. How could he get 18 months and be able to go to his office, during the day and have visitors and stuff.

It must have been a trade. So my assumption, I have no knowledge. But my assumption is there was a trade for the videos because there were people on those videos. And have you talked to Donald Trump about this and shared your theory? No, I mean, he knows the story. Right. But like my story, that, you know, I was one and done with the guy.

He knows that story, but that's it. And now if you watch some of Howard Lutnik's recent interviews about other topics, you start to see, and I think you knew already, just what a absolute sicko this guy is. And I know you're like, Ben, we knew that already. But I think this gives it additional context right here. Like, here's the recent interview he gave with Jesse Waters on state regime media, which calls itself Fox.

And Howard Lutnik starts attacking California governor Gavin Newsom, because Gavin Newsom says we're handing out knee pads for all of the Trump bootlickers. And Lutniks like, Oh my God, that guy's talking about sex toys and knee pads. Sex toys and knee pads. You see what's going on in Lutnik's mind right there? Here, play this clip. So Newsom's over there, and he's posturing.

You know, he's throwing around knee pads. You're sitting there with the President of the United States. Is he tolerating this? Are you guys laughing about this? What's going on with this governor? He's literally laughing. I mean, he's like, he can't believe it. Right? I mean, you just can't believe that this guy's going to run for president, and he's actually commenting about sex toys and knee pads.

I mean, you can't believe it. It's outrageously entertaining. And so the president just has to laugh because what else can you do? You're not going to just, you know, you know the president. He's not going to just shake his head. He's like, just cracking up going, I can't believe this guy. I wouldn't be holding up a knee pad if I were running for president. And then recently when Howard Lutnik was at, Davos and he was sitting on a panel with other world foreign affairs ministers and leaders. Howard Lutnik was showing what a predator he is. Here, play this clip. Can I bring you back to Greenland?

No. It's unnecessary. The Western Hemisphere is vital for the United States of America. Our national security people are on it and they care about it. And I'm going to leave it to them to address with our allies, with our friends, and with everyone how they work it out. But the Western Hemisphere matters to the United States of America. And the United States of America, as I've just articulated,

really, really matters to the world. When America shines, the world shines, because they all need to make sure America is strong and powerful to take care of them, God forbid. And so I think America and the Western Hemisphere are vital to America, and I'm going to leave that to my national security people to address. Right. The rest of us, I think, are finding it harder to make that kind of separation clearly.

And here's how bizarre he is about Donald Trump. Whenever he does these interviews on state regime media or otherwise, he'll always be like, and Donald Trump is so strong. He's the strongest man I know. And you're here to play this clip. And did he let you sleep on the ride home on Air Force One? I slept for an hour. I did.

I slept for one hour. There's, he is the strong, He is the strongest, he is the strongest human being that I know. I mean, you know, he can wear me at. And I tell you, I've got plenty of energy. And he just works and works and works. It is a pleasure to be. We'll go get some sleep, secretary.

I think you guys needed. Great job over there. And this fight with China continues. It's a battle. Thank you. Okay, well, birds of a feather. This was from the Epstein files that were released on Friday.

And these are allegations in a email that is titled Epstein cellmate interviews. And this is an email from different FBI agents to each other. And here's what the FBI agents say about Trump in an email that says cellmate interview. Trump. It says Jane Doe stated, Epstein introduced her to Trump, who subsequently forced her head down to his exposed penis, which is subsequently bite bitten. I think it's his bite. In response, Trump punched her in the head and kicked her out.

Jane Doe remembers Epstein introduced her to Trump saying, this is a good one, huh? And Trump responded, yeah. That this is a good one, huh? That came out in the Geelaine-Maxwell trial with a Jane Doe witness as well. Also, when people talk about the cabal, this is a real email from Elon Musk to Jeffrey Epstein during that same period of time when Howard Lutnik was going to the island or talking about going to the island.

This is from Elon Musk. What day and night will the wildest parties take place on your island? What day and night will the wildest party be on your island? Was that the night that Lutnik was heading there as well? And then you have Elon Musk denying that Epstein went to SpaceX, but it clearly appears that he went from these emails. And then talk about the cabal. You know how Donald Trump's very close with all.

these NFL owners and the NFL owners, you know, were all involved in helping Trump the first time getting Kaepernick on and all that. Well, this is an NFL owner of the New York giant, Steve Tisch, who talks about a young Ukrainian woman and asks if she's a pro or a civilian, and they talk about, you know, Epstein facilitating a young Ukrainian girl or woman for Tisch. It's absolutely grotesque. This is the crude. Do you see that this isn't speculation anymore. These are the people, I'm just reading you what the emails say.

And we know that there's still 3 to 4 million emails and documents that are still missing that have not been turned over. That's a cabal right there. And it seems that Lutnik is having a lot of explaining to do right now. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Help us get to 6 million things for once. watching. The truth is more important than ever. Check out our new truth over lies collection at

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