The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump PERJURY caught IN WRITING, Durham Probe IMPLODES, Adam Frisch’s plan to DEFEAT Boebert + MORE

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

On today’s episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast, we cover the most hot-button issues facing the United States and the world, and speak with the Democratic Candidate for U.S. Congress taking on Lauren Boebert, Adam Frisch. In Trump news, Federal Judge David Carter ordered the release of emails between Trump and insurrectionist attorney John Eastman due to the crime fraud exception to attorney-client privilege. The Durham prosecutions prove to be a major bust and right-wing media spirals. Kelly Loeffler’s text messages from her 2020 Senate campaign leak, showing the Republican pressure campaign to get her to agree to try to overturn the results of the presidential election. Pro-democracy Democrats face off against extremist Republicans in a series of debates. Liz Truss resigns as Prime Minister in the United Kingdom, exposing the disastrous economic policies of Republicans in America. All this and so much more on the MeidasTouch Podcast! New episodes of the MeidasTouch Podcast release every Tuesday and Friday. The rest of the week, enjoy our short-form episodes we call The Mighty! Learn more about Adam Frisch: https://www.adamforcolorado.com/ Shop Meidas Merch at: https://store.meidastouch.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/meidastouch Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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be turned over to the committee. Trump responded by attacking the federal judge. Lindsey Graham loses his emergency motion with the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, which ordered he must testify before the Fulton County Special Grand Jury in connection with the district attorney's criminal investigation. Kelly Loeffler's text message from the period leading up to the insurrection has leaked to the press showing her cowardice, which we always knew, but shining more light as well on MAGA efforts to stop the peaceful transition of power. Meanwhile, the conservative UK prime minister across the pond, Liz Truss, resigned after her tax cuts for the wealthy crippled the British economy. Her plans were touted as the model that MAGA Republicans want to implement here.

I can't believe it. President Biden, meanwhile, brilliantly responds to the media's midterm gotcha questions. They just want to take their shots before the midterms. This both sides media has got to go. And our guest for today's podcast is Adam Frisch, the Democratic candidate running against Lauren Boebert in Colorado's third congressional district. This is not a simulation. This is the Midas Touch podcast. Do you like that intro? It's not a simulation. I'm Brett Mycelis, joined by my brother, Brett Micellas. Jordy is in Washington, D.C. on official business. Brett, how are you?

More to come on that. Jordy's going to have a lot of exciting content, a lot of exciting news coming out of D.C. It's great to send Jordy there to D.C. It's nice and close over there on the East Coast. Looking forward to bringing you guys a lot of cool stuff from there. Man, today was quite the news day. It's like one story after the next. We started building this outline in the morning, and then it was like every 10 minutes. We were like, did you see this? Did you see this?

Did you see this? Holy shit. It's just everything coming in. We're going to try to deliver as much as we can to you in the time that we have. I'm so excited for our guest, Adam Frisch. Jordy will be involved in our interview with Adam. He has taken on a little known candidate who you may know, Representative Lauren Boebert, as Ben said, and we got to get her out, folks. Enough of the circus, enough of the chaos, enough of the craziness. We need serious leaders, and we are

seeing the results right now around the world. What happens when you elect clowns? When you elect clowns, expect a circus. And that's what we're seeing in the UK. And that's what we saw here with Donald Trump. And frankly, anytime the Republicans are in power. So we need to step up right now. We got not that much time until the midterms. We need everyone's energy up. Don't be gaslit by the media. Don't let the media tell you that Democrats can't win. Listen, there has never in the history of our country been a midterms elections that has happened in a post Roe v. Wade world, in a post January 6th insurrection world. So none of the polls can account for any of that. None of the polls can account for any of that.

So it's up to us to get out there, to get all of our friends and family out there and vote and prove all the naysayers wrong. And I am so excited to do that with all you. Brett, ever see the movie Captain Phillips? And there's a line where they take over the ship and they go, I'm the captain now. And so what I say to the both side is a media, that fascist right wing echo chamber. This is what I say about the Midas touch network. I am the captain. We are the right now. And so we are not going to gaslight you. We're going to deliver the facts and we're going to talk about what's really going on in this country. And a big order right out here in the Central District of California, where Federal

Judge David Carter, who sits in the Central District Southern Division in Orange County, made a ruling that Donald Trump, again, more likely than not engaged in criminal conduct in connection with the January 6th insurrection. And what David Carter was tasked to analyze is whether the crime fraud exception applies. This lawsuit that's before Judge David Carter was initiated by Donald Trump's lawyer, John Eastman, brought this case before Judge David Carter. John Eastman's a former law professor at Chapman University. That's a law school in the Orange County area. That's why it's filed in the Central District. And when the January 6th committee subpoenaed his records, he said, attorney-client privilege, attorney-client

privilege. I'm not turning over these records. And in the he said, attorney-client privilege, attorney-client privilege. I'm not turning over these records. And in the normal course, attorney-client privilege is a confidential relationship between attorney and client. It's not discoverable in proceeding. So if it was a valid attorney-client relationship and the privilege was asserted validly, the January 6th committee would not get the records. So here, the decision that had to be made by the judge is one, is there attorney-client privilege? And if so, is there any exceptions that would lead to the January 6th committee getting the records? And one of those exceptions is the crime fraud exceptions, because the law doesn't want lawyers and clients committing crimes

together. You could represent someone, of course, who is accused of a crime, but the purpose of the relationship is not to go out and start breaking the law. You're telling me that the purpose of the relationship is not to hire somebody to be your criminal accomplice, where you can then just give information to and be like, oh, no, he can't speak because that's actually my attorney. There's the attorney client privilege, criminal defense lawyer and a criminal lawyer. And so here the judge had to apply the factors of whether the crime fraud exception apply. First, was there a crime? And two, were the documents at issue in furtherance of that crime? And here, Donald Trump found with respect to point number one, was there a crime?

Yes, there was a crime. Obstruction and conspiracy in connection with trying to overthrow our government on January 6th. The next question is, are these documents in dispute in furtherance of the crime? And the judge found a lot of them weren't. There was a crime, but a lot of them weren't. But there was a batch of eight documents that were clearly in furtherance of the crime. And as a lawyer, this is why you have to fight these discovery disputes in litigation, because this is the needle in the haystack that you're looking for. All of John Eastman's efforts to try to stop them from getting the records was a head fake

for these documents. He didn't want these eight documents going to the January 6th committee, and they got these records. And what these records show is that Donald Trump was specifically aware that all those numbers that he was talking about in Georgia, oh, the 10,000 dead people voted and X amount of felons voted and all of... Donald Trump's lawyers knew that was all false. And nonetheless, Donald Trump submitted a false under oath declaration stating that the facts were true and correct. He signed it under penalty of perjury. And we have emails now where you have Trump's lawyers. We have emails stating that where John Easton basically

says he's signing the declaration under penalty of perjury and he knows the information is false. And the judge says those types of emails are in furtherance of the crime. January 6th committee gets it and we get it. We now know about it. Brett, here's the best part about this because we know that Donald Trump notoriously does not send emails. He does not really use any form of electronic communications. So anytime that we do have emails, it is a BFB. And let me be clear, Trump didn't send the emails himself. It is his lawyers sending the email saying that we told Trump this, Trump knows this, we're aware of this, directly linking it to Trump. However, what Donald Trump did do was Donald Trump knowingly signed onto false claims of fraud in a lawsuit in Georgia. And so when you have a moment like that, what that reminds me also is of the recorded phone call in Georgia. Anytime you have hard evidence, Donald Trump's signature, Donald Trump's voice on a phone call,

Donald Trump's lawyers admitting that Trump's voice on a phone call, Donald Trump's lawyers admitting that Trump knows what's going on, that is a big deal right there. And one of the things that I found that was interesting about all this also is four of those emails actually showed that Donald Trump was filing some of these lawsuits, not to obtain any sort of legal restitution in any way whatsoever, but he was filing lawsuits specifically for the sole purpose of obstructing an official proceeding, which I think is also super important. I mean, we all know it every time he does this, that it's bullshit, that he's doing delay tactics, that he's doing all this sort of stuff. But to actually see a judge like Judge Carter say,

he was doing this very clearly in these emails, they were trying to hide Carter say he was doing this very clearly in these emails. They were trying to hide and he was doing this for the purpose of obstructing an official proceeding by the way, which is a crime that will ultimately, he will probably be charged with. So it's important to also note that framing of it, that it was obstructing an official proceeding in filing these bullshit lawsuits. Correct. That's what, in the crime fraud exception, remember, two-part analysis. Was there a crime? Were the documents in furtherance of the crime? Was there a crime? Yes. Obstruction and conspiracy in connection with the insurrection. Were the documents in furtherance of it? Yes. Brett, to your point, page 15. There are four documents, however,

in which Dr. Eastman and other attorneys suggest that irrespective of the merits, the primary goal of the filing is to delay or otherwise disrupt the January 6th vote. So what is Donald Trump's response to this order? I'm sorry, he took it great. Very specific details calling him out as being a criminal and what specific criminal acts were made. Trump goes to his social media company, his platform, and he attacks Judge David Carter. He goes, who is this Clinton appointed, quote, Judge David Carter, who keeps saying and sending to all very nasty, wrong and ill-informed statements about me on rulings or a case, whatever currently going on in California that I know nothing about, nor am I represented.

With that being said, please explain to this partisan hack that the presidential election of 2020 was rigged and stolen. Also, he shouldn't be making statements about me until he understands the facts, which he doesn't. What I pointed out in my breaking news alert in response, wait a minute, you're saying you know nothing about, I'll get to the other parts about this, but you know nothing about this really, because you're saying you're not represented. But the last time I checked, the person who initiated this lawsuit that got assigned to Judge David Carter is your lawyer, John Eastman. Nor am I represented. Literally, your lawyer is asserting your privilege. The privilege isn't his as the lawyer.

You are the client. The attorney-client privilege is held by the client. So one of the things I posited, well, if you don't know about this proceeding and you're claiming that there is no attorney-client relationship here, then I think all the other records should now be turned over to the January 6th committee because there were findings made by Judge David Carter that some of the other records were subject to the attorney-client privilege, but not in furtherance of the crime. Well, Trump, if you don't know anything about it and you're not saying you represent it, sounds like there's no attorney-client privilege to me. So here's what I called upon the January

6th committee to do. I said they should file a motion before Judge Carter and they should ask for an evidentiary hearing where Donald Trump has to now appear in person where they could question him under oath before Judge David Carter and they can ask him questions. So you know nothing about this. You're not claiming that you're represented to see if the attorney-client privilege actually applies. I also argue that this is a waiver of the attorney-client privilege because he's saying the election is rigged and stolen. Also, he shouldn't be making statements about me until he understands the facts.

It sounds like an invitation and it sounds like he's now saying, I'm telling you what we talked about in the course and scope of this attorney-client relationship. So to me, there's a waiver as well. So if I'm the January 6th committee, in addition to subpoenaing Trump like they've already done and they're doing, I would go right to Judge David Carter and I would say, bring Trump into court right now. We want a motion for reconsideration regarding all the other records that have not been turned over yet. And we want to ask Donald Trump these questions under oath because he's saying it was rigged and stolen. Even though the emails say to the contrary,

you know what will happen when Donald Trump goes to takes the stand. Fifth, I plead the fifth. I plead the fifth. I plead the fifth. That's exactly what he did with Letitia James when he was deposed there after writing all of these truth posts or whatever the hell he calls them. One other point before I pass it to you, Brett, Judge David Carter is one of the most respected judges, not just in California, but in the entire country. He's been a judge since 1981. He's a Vietnam War veteran and a hero who's fought at one of the most well-known battles in Vietnam. He was injured. He received a Vietnam War veteran and a hero who's fought at one of the most well-known battles in Vietnam. He was injured. He received a Bronze Star.

He supervised the criminal courts. He was the head judge over the criminal courts in Orange County, which is not exactly a haven for Democrats for most of his career. He was appointed in 1998 and he has this one. I've appeared before judge David card before he like starts his courtroom sometimes as early as a humble brag. What a humble brag, right? Sometimes he goes up to court like this. He's like the hardest working judge. Like, you know, like court starts normally eight 30. He's like show up at six 30. Um, and he'll go until midnight early is on time. He's like, show up at 6.30. And he'll go until midnight. Early is on time. He's one of those. He'll go until 2 a.m. to get the facts right. That's the kind of judge he is. And he also runs

major rehabilitation programs for felons, tattoo removal programs. The guy's the least partisan person. The least person you could call that is Judge David Carter. And every lawyer who's ever appeared before him knows. But this is what Trump wants to do, Brett, attack our judicial system, just like he did with the John Durham prosecution after John Durham lost his second criminal trial. Oh my God. The way this John Durham, all the prosecutions have just blown up in their face. I mean, at a certain point, you just have to laugh. Like it's, it's so incredibly frustrating that they've dragged all these people's names through the mud.

Um, and at the end of the day, I want everybody to be clear. Also like kind of one of the main points about these prosecutions wasn't even getting the result because the cases were so bad. They were so bad, but these were just really a means for Donald Trump and Bill Barr to disseminate so much disinformation into the media landscape that Fox News could run with, that Breitbart could run with, and they got everything they wanted out of those facts. But for those who don't know, Durham was appointed by Bill Barr. He was, you know, with Trump, obviously, he was a special prosecutor who was basically

specifically hired for the, to try to, he was basically hired to poke holes in the FBI's 2016 Trump-Russia investigation. So you have Donald Trump so obsessed over these Russia connections, even with all the documents, the confidential documents that he has with him in Mar-a-Lago, a lot of those apparently are related to the Trump-Russia investigation. He wants to clear his name. And now Durham has been 0 for 2, everybody, 0 for 2 in these prosecutions. He did get one guilty plea early on from some misdemeanor charge. No jail time, nothing.

In the actual case that went to trial, in the actual case that matter, the guy is 0 for 2. And on Tuesday, Durham suffered his second straight trial loss. The DC jury acquitted Igor Danchenko on all four remaining counts in Durham's 2021 indictment for making false statements to the FBI. Last Friday, October 14th, the federal judge overseeing the case tossed the first count as just completely unsupported by the evidence. His previous defeat was, of course, in May when the DC jury acquitted Michael Sussman, the one-time Clinton campaign lawyer. Listen to this. So Igor Dechenko told the FBI that he never actually talked with this Democratic consultant, that they never spoke, which was true because he received an

email from the Democratic consultant. That's what Igor Dechenko was charged with in a criminal felony trial, whether he actually talked or whether an email can be considered talking. And when he said it was an email versus saying he never talked, that that was, it was never even the underlying fact even the underlying fact of the underlying information. I kid you not. It sounds like one of these dumb fact checks online. Was it a clap or was it an applause?

That's what the lying to the FBI was about. The other charge against him was whether or not he had a communication with this Belarusian American business person who he had said, someone called me on a encrypted phone app that I believe to be this individual who delivered this information. And they said, you lied and said, you spoke to the Belarusian business person. You never actually spoke to him. And he said, I never said that I spoke to him. I said that someone called and I thought it was. Meanwhile, what the FBI testified at this trial was that Igor Dechenko was like one of the most reliable sources.

The actual underlying information that he provided was very, very factual. His sources and methods had always proven to be impeccable in the past. And Trump made him a confidential informant to kind of like set him up in 2017 through 2020. They paid him. Trump was the president during that period of time. And then they charge him in 2021. And one point, just to add to what you said, Brett, there, Bill Barr made John Durham a special prosecutor in October, 2020, specifically as a poison pill to Biden, because it's much harder to get rid of a special prosecutor than it is to get rid of a United States attorney for a specific district. So he was the United States attorney for Connecticut, John Durham, and actually had a

decent reputation until he went down this Bill Barr Trump rabbit hole, which was to spread the conspiracies. And again, what's Donald Trump's response to this? He whines on his social media platform. The disgraceful judicial system was on full display yet again with the DeChenko verdict and Durham could not get a fair shake in this swamp of biased and partisan juries where you are told no Republican based on based or supported cases can be won no matter how good it is. And judges, they're so biased, unfair and angry that it's literally dangerous to be in court. I was told by many that Durham's case was a great one, but he has zero chance of winning in that court. Sorry, Justin. I think all Donald Trump statements need to be

read in that whiny voice because that is how I envision it every time that he- You take away the politics, Brett, from it. Democrat, Republican. If someone talks to you like that, that's what I always say about my, I go, what the heck is that? Who is this person? Like, what a whining little loser. Like he's setting aside the issues. Could you believe that this person is the cult leader?

I mean, when you see the type of candidates that they run, you, you know, you get a sense of, okay, I get it. But like, you know, no wonder, I mean, like, like the biggest loser in the world, like who writes that this case went in front of a jury in the Eastern district of Virginia. Okay. It's not exactly like, you know, like, I don't know what you just said. Like the jury heard the facts. The case was a really stupid freaking case. I described it. The jury's like, why are we here? Like, okay, if you want to bring a trial and your claim is that the underlying information

that's given about Trump and Russia is false, okay. At least it's a case if that's what your argument is. But that wasn't the case. The case was the jury's probably sitting there saying, okay, so we're here about whether he talked versus sent an email and they want to put this guy in jail for like- What the heck are we doing? What are we doing here? Not guilty, crazy people. That's what they said. I mean, the reality that they're confronting, and this happens so frequently, but they never, and we'll talk about

this later with Larry Kudlow when we talk about Liz Truss a little bit. But here's the fact. The right wingers, the Trumpers, MAGA, these MAGA Republicans, they build up this phony narrative and they gaslight the public. They even gaslight themselves, I think, at a certain point. and pervasive that they don't even know what the truth is anymore because it's going through this ridiculous feedback loop where they say it on TV, gets picked up by conservative radio, written about by their influencers on Twitter, and then it's just coming back at them and they don't even know what the truth is anymore. But here's the facts, is that these right-wing fever dreams do not hold up in the court of law unless you have a judge like Judge Eileen Cannon, who is incredibly corrupt. But if you get any competent judge whatsoever, they do not hold up in the court of law at all. And you could make a joke about the Trump whining and stuff, but it was like serious right-wing media that was whining about this too. Sources that people actually respect and

view as serious papers. I mean, let's just look at the wall street journal headlines from over the past year. Durham cracks the Russia case. They wrote in September, the special counsel's indictment tells the real story of 2016 collusion in October 12th, 2022. They said, John Durham shows how the FBI lets its informants mislead it. In September of 2021, they also wrote Durham delivers on Russiagate. October 13th, 2022, Durham's FBI indictment as prosecutions put the bureau on trial for partisanship and incompetence. How could you be wrong and wrong and wrong every step of the way and at a certain point say, maybe I don't know anything. Maybe I'm wrong about all this stuff. And how do you, as a consumer of

this media, of the right-wing media, if you're reading the wall street journal or you're watching Fox news, how at a certain point, are you just not like offended that you are being lied to and gaslit endlessly by this shit? It's mind blowing to me. Yeah, Brett, let's, I want to, you mentioned the Liz Truss, her resignation as she was the conservative prime minister of the UK. And one of the reasons she was forced to resign was that her, she came in, she released this tax cut plan on September 23rd, which everyone's like, you're giving tax cuts that you can't pay for to the richest people here in the UK right now? Can you not do that right now? That makes no sense. And the biggest cheerleaders for it, the biggest cheerleaders were MAGA Republicans

here in the United States who said, oh, this is brilliant. This is just like the plan that MAGA has if they win the house, cheerleading this on. Obviously, it tanked the economy that everybody's- Like immediately. Immediately tanked the economy. The value of the pound sunk right away, like the crippling economic crisis. But let's go and play the clip, Brett. I believe it's from Larry Kudlow. By the way, Larry Kudlow was the former director of Being Wrong About Everything. I think that was his official title. He was actually the former director of National Economic Council of the United States. Before that, he was on whether CNBC or Fox Business or

whatever these shows were. And he's just like the typical arrogant right wing person who like is at your Thanksgiving table. And you're like, dude, shut the F up. You don't know. And they're just so loud. And I'm not sure what's going to happen here is if we give trickle down economics and we do the trickle down and the rich people, you don't know. No, no, no. You be quiet. You be quiet. You shut up. You don't know what you're talking about. It's like, okay, can I just eat my one? You're wrong. You have no clue what you're talking about. And can I just please leave this Thanksgiving table? Because Larry Kudlow is a freaking annoying idiot. Like we all have Larry and they're always wrong. They're just idiots. Play the clip of Larry.

They're always wrong, but they're always so confident in themselves. So the video of Larry Kudlow saying how great that this plan is by trust when everybody, all economists worth their grain in salt are like, this is going to fail. We know it's going to fail. Play the clip. So the U.S. midterm elections cavalry arrived early in London. What do I mean by that? Well, the new British Prime Minister Liz Truss has laid out a terrific supply side economic growth plan, which looks a lot like the basic thrust of Kevin McCarthy's commitment to America plan. Let's start with Truss. She is slashing tax rates and deregulating energy. I just love it. That's the liberal business media. This is wonderful. The

liberal business media, you know, I'm talking about is now trashing her plan. That tells me Truss has it exactly right. By the way, Liz Truss is basically operating a Ray Thatcher Trump economic policy. Yeah, by the way, and this is where we just need to exercise, you know, a modicum of intelligence here. You know, Donald Trump brought our deficit, increased our deficit by like seven point five trillion dollars with his tax cuts as well for the billionaires. It's like, let's give billionaires more breaks. They don't have it good enough. More private jets, more yachts, and let's convince our base that that is beneficial while we're raising the taxes for our base. We're helping the billionaires. By the way, you add Trump's tax cuts with the miserable way that he implemented the PPP. You get money, you get money. The amount of fraud, the amount of inability of

any like, you know, for them to do their job at all and the way they rolled that program. How do you think that, why do you think that there's inflation? Like, duh. And it's mostly the same thing that you're seeing there in the UK. But Brett, Larry Kudlow, wrong about everything. Am I right? Yeah. I actually think that this would be a really good strategy. And hear me out. I think that President Biden should hire Larry Kudlow. Okay. You following me? And so I think you should go to Larry Kudlow with advice. I need some tips on how to do X, Y, and Z. And then I think he should do whatever the polar opposite of Larry Kudlow says. And we'd be crushing it as a country. I almost want to hire Larry Kudlow as my personal financial advisor. And then I will just ask him

for advice, maybe some stock tips or something. I'll just do the exact opposite of everything he says. I'd be like a billionaire in like a week. Do you have the videos of Cudlaw during the Trump administration during COVID? Do you have those clips? If we have them, I'd love to see some of those where this is when he was in the Trump administration. Brett, do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the clips are about to play for you. There's one, which is from the very, there are two clips that are played back to back. Okay. The first one, which is from the very, there are two clips that are played back to back, okay? The first one is going to be right at the beginning of the pandemic in February of 2020.

The second one is going to be after the first wave of COVID in June 2020, prior to the second wave where Larry, where Kudlow says there is not going to be a second wave. So he's wrong twice on this. Just like he's wrong about everything arrogant shit-eating grin he's they're wrong about they're idiots they're just idiots play the clip i'll play this we have contained this i won't say airtight but pretty close to airtight it's come a long way since uh last winter and um there is no second wave coming it's's just, you know, hotspot. It's the most ridiculous, literally wrong about every single thing and the way they say it to know that we literally we've we've sealed it.

I wouldn't say airtight, but we've essentially sealed it airtight. We're good, folks. We're good. I mean, you couldn't be more wrong there. Every one of their policies is like that. That's why we have the Midas Touch Network to enlighten, because the mainstream media isn't talking about that. The mainstream media gives them a pass. The mainstream media does all of the gotcha questions with President Biden, right? The gotcha questions. So what is the number one

single issue that you care about? Name me the top domestic issue. Is it inflation or abortion? Do we have Peter Doocy, Brett, asking that question? I want to show Biden's response when he's asked that question. Just hoping to clarify for midterm voters, top domestic issue, inflation or abortion? All important. Unlike you, there's no one thing. It crosses the board. Domestic for asking about foreign policy, too. There's a multiple, multiple, multiple issues and they're all important. And so and we ought to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. You know, thank you. Thank you. You know, it's such a good response to that, though, you know, how the media would probably, you know, report that they would good response to that though. You know, how the media would probably,

you know, report that they would say Biden's responses. He likes bubble gum. Oh, Biden just as a bubble gum guy. It's like, okay. Like, like that's how dumb our mainstream, you know, that's how dumb the media is. And here's another one where a reporter, I think it was this morning as Biden. Um, so what's your view, any restrictions on abortion at all? Do we have that clip, Brett? Yeah. Yeah. Let me bring it up. And also, as I find it, the purpose of these questions is not actually to extract information. The purpose of these questions is to get Biden to state the answer to the question that they want. In this case uh do see wanted biden to either pick a side and say inflation or abortion and then fox news runs with that headline for the next week biden thinks

abortion is more important than your pocketbook and that's kind of they're all looking for just those clickbait stories rather than actually trying to get real information from people no they don't want to put in the work they want the easy stuff so listen to this i'll say it's a little bit hard to hear because you have the helicopter and everything going on, but listen closely and we'll tell you what he says after. Any restrictions on abortion at all? Any restrictions on abortion at all? Yes, there should be. What should they be? Roe v. Wade. Read it, man. You'll get educated. No, I'm going to ask you a question. The question was, should there be any restrictions on abortion at all and biden said

yes it's called roe v wade read it man you'll get educated i mean roe v wade the decision literally addressed where states where the rights of states come in where states could have restrictions that's literally what roe v. Wade is. That's what Casey says. And then when you overturn Roe v. Wade, you allow total abortion bans, which is what Roe v. Wade said couldn't take place. The Republicans are essentially now pretending. I mean, some of them are pretending basically what they support is what Roe v. Wade said, but they're too cowardly to actually say that. So then they support the total abortion bans. And Roe v. Wade struck the balance. Roe v. Wade recognized the complexity of the issue and addressed it in the 1970s. And then in 2022, you have the MAGA extremist

Republicans take away that fundamental constitutional right. I want to hit a few more quick stories before we bring in our guests, because I'm so excited to bring in Adam Frisch to talk about his race against Lauren Boebert. But let's quickly hit on Kelly Loeffler's text messages. So we're learning that Kelly Loeffler was actually a witness before the special grand jury in Fulton County. And that's likely how these documents work their way into somebody's hands. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution is the paper that broke the story. The individual who sent or individuals who sent those text messages also sent it to Politico and a few other outlets. Atlanta Journal of Constitutional confirmed first with the recipients that these were legit, but no one knows actually who the source of these documents are, but 59 pages, which really just shows Kelly Loeffler just being so

cowardly and that basically what she was worried about was that she was going to get booed before a Trump rally. And so that's what convinced her that she would say that she was going to object to the results of the Electoral College. And then you have all these MAGA extremists like text messaging her, like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Representative Heiss. And they're all saying, hey, you got to do it for Donald. You got to do it for Donald. Or we're meeting in the White House. all saying, hey, you got to do it for Donald, or we're meeting in the White House. We need you. We need you to do this for Donald. I mean, these messages are so pathetic. And just show, though, how cowardly she was. And then finally, at the end, after the insurrection, she didn't make the formal

objections. And the reason she didn't make the formal objections, one of her advisors said, this could actually hurt your reputation now after you leave. And so she just ping pong kind of back and forth over like what was going to, you know, and you just see that all of these right wing Republican MAGA extremists are just doing it. You know, they don't care about what the, it's a game to them. Like fascism, it's just a game. They don't care about our democracy one bit. That's what came across loud and clear in those messages. It's a game, but it's a dangerous game that has serious consequences on people's lives. And that's the thing that is often overlooked when we're speaking about these stories.

I mean, the fact that she was so concerned over getting retweets and making sure that people liked her, I think sums it up. At the end of the day, after all the pressure that she received from people, when she finally said, okay, I'll object, I'll object to the electoral college count because she succumbed to this peer pressure. She texted her aide, listeners of the show, I remember she texted Stevie Lawson, a little Stevie Lawson, the worst political advisor in American history who was on her campaign. I think now does Herschel Walker's brilliant campaign and another aid, Trump aid, Taylor Brown. And she wrote a pack and she wrote, please make sure Trump retweets my statement.

So I don't get booed off stage. How pathetic is that? How pathetic is that? How pathetic is that? But I want to focus on a really kind of tragic text that was released in this mix. And it's from Tricia Raffensperger, wife of Brad Raffensperger, the secretary of state of Georgia. And I'll pull up the text right now. And this is what Tricia said. She said, this is Tricia Raffensperger. I met you. And this is to Kelly Leffler, of course. I met you at a Christmas party in Washington, DC. Never did I think you were the kind of person to unleash such hate and fury on someone in political office of the same party. My family and I are

being personally besieged by people threatening our lives because you didn't have the decency or good manners to come and talk to my husband with any questions you may have had. Instead, you put us in the eye of the storm. Unlike you, my husband is an honorable man with integrity to do the right thing. We are law-abiding people of faith. I hold you personally responsible for anything that happens to anyone in my family, for my husband, children, and grandchildren. What kind of person are you that you would purposely do this? I am so disappointed. I thought you were better than that. You do not deserve to be in elected office. You with the lives of the Raffensperger family. And these Republicans continue to play with the lives of anybody who dare tell the truth about what happened in the 2020 election, that there was no fraud, that Donald Trump lost fair and square. Instead, they made it a plank of the Republican platform. That's what they're running

on basically at this point. It's pathetic. Yeah. I don't know if you saw, there was a opinion piece in the Federalist, MAGA extremist magazine or digital magazine, whatever you would call it, basically saying, we're not conservative anymore. We shouldn't be conservative. We shouldn't be for small government. We should be for a big oppressive government. That sole goal is to destroy anybody else who doesn't support MAGA extremist ideology, essentially saying that it's their view to, yeah, it's called we need to stop calling ourselves conservative and that the MAGA extremists need to just take over government by authoritarian means and do what's ever necessary to seize control of the country, regardless of what the election results are. Brett, as you always like to say, it's the

quiet part out loud and they don't care anymore. They're done with the democracy. They're done with democracy. It's authoritarian. It's MAGA extremist. It's overturned elections. That's why it's so important though though, that we spread these messages of truth. Just finally, one thing I want to touch on as well, Lindsey Graham lost his emergency motion before the 11th Circuit. He's desperately tried not to appear before the district attorney of Fulton County, Fawnie Willis's prosecution, which she's before a special grand jury right now in Fulton County. He said he's tried to assert the speech and debate clause, which is supposed to protect the legitimate legislative activities of senators and members of Congress, of what they

do on the floor of the Senate and the House and other things directly connected with their legitimate legislative roles. And he argued that everything he did is legislative. He was just, the reason why he was speaking to the Trump campaign, the reason that he was reaching out to Raffensperger, he was just fact-finding, Brad. He was just doing research as a Senator from South Carolina. South Carolina, that makes a lot of sense to go to Georgia. And what the 11th Circuit found and what the district court found is that no, the speech and debate clause does not protect all communications that you could even say are related to legislative activity. This is not related to legislative activity. This is not related to legislative activity. The communications that you had with Trump, efforts that you may have made to exhort or cajole or pressure the Secretary of

State of Georgia and other officials to overturn the results of their election and other statements you made to the press are all fair grounds for Fawny Willis to question you on. And Lindsey Graham thought he was going to get a favorable audience, the 11th Circuit. But here, the 11th Circuit, which has a reputation for being a right-wing court, they ruled and made the right decision in the Mar-a-Lago search warrant case, ordering the 100 top secret classified records be returned to the Department of Justice in a per curiam unanimous decision. Same thing here, per curiam, meaning a unanimous decision by everybody on the panel ruling that Lindsey Graham can't hide behind the speech and debate clause and that he will have to testify. When will he testify? There's a quiet

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We are joined by Adam Frisch from Colorado's 3rd Congressional District race. Adam is running as the Democratic candidate against Lauren Boebert. We have a lot to discuss. Adam Frisch, welcome to the podcast. Great. Super excited to be here, gentlemen, and super excited to have our conversation and share our journey out here in Western and Southern Colorado. We're inundated with good news. Nicole on social media, I just told her before, we're going to have to hire her a couple assistants. We just have such, we're just being overwhelmed with endorsements and good polling numbers.

So happy to get into those conversations with you guys. So, Adam, when I gave you that intro, I don't know if you saw what I did and it was intentional. I just tried to will it into existence that you would just be from. I normally say the candidate from the third congressional district. I said, Adam, from the third congressional district. So we certainly look the nation, whether you really are, whether you're a Democrat, whether you're an independent, whether you are someone who once identified as a Republican, Lauren Boebert may have an R next to her name, but she should have an M E next to her name for MAGA extremist because that's what she represents. I want to hear a

little bit about your background, Adam, first before getting into the race. Why did you step into the arena? Can you tell us about just your background, business, family, et cetera? Perfect. Yeah, no, thanks guys. Again, my first five years, I was actually born on the Indian reservation in Northeastern Montana, Fort Peck Indian reservation. My father was in the public health service. My mom was doing some community service at the time. He went on to become an OBGYN for about 50 years. He spent his last couple of years of his career working for Planned Parenthood, making sure those next generation of healthcare providers had the educational tools to make sure they could take care of all those patients that Planned Parenthood sees. I have three younger sisters. The youngest one is an OBGYN back in Minnesota. I grew up in Minneapolis, kind of kindergarten through high

school, spent a little too much time ski racing, ended up at the University of Colorado at Boulder, studied economics and went out to New York City on a bit of a whim with a buddy of mine, laid the tables for about a year and then spent about eight or nine years working in the world of finance. I did three years on the socially responsible investing for a while, which was in its infancy as an industry. And then I transferred over to spend about seven or eight years

traveling the world involved in international interest rates and currencies and foreign exchange. And I did business in about 100 countries and went to about 40 or 50 of them, Asia, Latin America, Middle East, Africa. Sadly, that all came kind of crashing to an end, literally, and just went to too many 9-11 funerals. I had worked in two World Trade Center for a couple of years and worked in seven World Trade Center for a couple of years. That's the building that went down in the evening. And I figured it was time to reset.

Met a gal out in the western slope of Colorado who also had a little bit of misspent youth ski racing. And I thought that if we were going to move to Aspen, it'd be good for us to build community and have a chance to get into business. Got into some home building construction for a little bit. Then I spent eight years on city council, mostly focused on affordable housing. After eight years of that, my wife ended up getting on our school board. She's now the president of our school board. We have a 15-year-old daughter. We have a 16-year-old son who's, we're pro-education. I got a substitute teaching license when COVID started to help out pre-K-4 and kindergarten. But my 16-year-old son is our volunteer coordinator and he's decided to take a gap year in high school when he's 16. And's just driving around with me we've done about 10 000 miles together we're doing

a lot more just to get this word out um why now about a year ago i looked at some uh representative bobart made some comments don't ask me what they were they were bad she's said worse every day um and i just looked at marjorie Taylor Greene, Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, Paul Gose, Sir Mo Brooks. You look at all these extremists on the right, and they all had 65 to 75% wins in 2020 in their general election. Again, so they all had 65 to 75% wins in 2020. And Lauren Boebert only had 51%. She did not win her home county. Those that know her do not care for her. And a lot more people know her now than did before, and not for good reason. And I was just thinking, you know, we've been redistricting.

The district used to be our five, so five points generally, generically had for the Republicans. It's now nine points for Republicans. So the only way I wanted to get into this race for a couple reasons. One, she is who she is. We don't need to spend a lot of time talking about that. Two, of all these extremists, she's the only one in the entire country where there's any chance of really seeing an extremist defeated. I cheer on all the other candidates that are running against Marjorie Taylor Greene and

Jim Jordan, but it's really, this is where we're going to see the emotional win for the country. And my view was if a moderate pragmatic Democrat could get by the Democratic primary, I could build this bipartisan coalition to defeat her. And we started down, we should have been starting down 12 points. We started down seven. We're now somewhere between minus two and up five, depending on the polling. Personally, I think we're probably about even, maybe a little bit ahead, not by much. We've been endorsed by her Republican primary challenger who got 36% of the vote. We've launched a Republicans for Fresh website. We're getting endorsed by the conservative Western Slope newspapers.

We're seeing a bunch of other people come in and back us. And so we're building this bipartisan, as my mom calls it, the pro-normal party. And here we are. That's what the pro-normal party, or as Tim Ryan called it during his debate, the exhausted majority right now with people like Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Gohmert and the rest of them. So when you're out there shaking hands, what are people in Colorado's third asking you about? What do they care about? And where's the contrast that you draw? Obviously, there's a huge contrast between you and Lauren Boebert, but you only have so much time when you're shaking a hand. So what's your elevator

speech? So before we get to issues, there's a couple of things that resonate with a lot of people. When I tell people that I think a lot of people want the circus to stop, that resonates with a lot, a lot of people, regardless of whether they're Republicans, independents, or Democrats. When I talk about that I would, if there was a Get Stuff Done party, I'd be in that party. I've said that for like 20 years, but that party's not doing well right now, as you gentlemen know, and a lot of your viewers, that resonates with a lot of people. When I tell people that I really want to go, my first goal about going to D.C. is to go join this Problem Solvers Caucus, which is made up of 29 Democrats and 29 Republicans, and working together to kind of

move issues forward in a bipartisan manner. So listen, this district is A, larger than the state of Mississippi. It's 50% the state of Colorado. And this is something that I made it very clear to the Democratic primary. And now the district is about 25% D, Democrat, 31 Republican, and 43 unaffiliated. So again, 25 D, 31 R, 43 unaffiliated. The only way that a Dem can win in this district is because we have an extremist who's just off her rocker. And more importantly, she's not focused on the district's needs. And that is why I think we can build this coalition. And that is why we're getting endorsed by a bunch of self-described conservatives that

are showing up in letters to the editor. Whether it comes to water, which is really important to Western and Southern Colorado, which is a little bit different than out East or in the Midwest. It's about as unpartisan as it gets. And that just comes to a competency question. And the question I ask is, who do you want representing you and your family and your business and your community and your kids and your grandkids and your parents in DC about almost every issue? And how do you want to be represented? And this is what resonates with a lot of people. She's zero for 39 on her legislative success.

She's turned in 39. She's sponsored or co-sponsored 39 bills and zero of them have got out of committee. She's voted against hundreds of millions of dollars that should have come back to this district. She's been one of two voters who voted didn't support leukemia research increasing. It was her and Marjorie Taylor Greene. She was one of seven voters, one of 17 voters, one of 20 voters, three for Putin, two against expanding NATO for our Nordic friends up in Europe. She just doesn't know the difference between right and wrong. And a lot

of Republicans and independents are knowing that. And that's how we're building our lead. And so as you head into election day, I mean, we're just a few weeks at this point away. You have a closing argument that's been any way different based on changing of circumstances right now, whether it is the decision by the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade and what that means within the district, whether it is any of the developments in terms of foreign policy, any things that shifted over the past four or five months that maybe has that you've adapted to show that contrast? Well, I mean, you know, one thing, the team we have has been awesome. And what I thought back a year ago, you know, there's, we've had a great amount of success going from minus 12 to minus 7 to minus 2 to probably and possibly above this. Without a doubt, I've always been pro-choice, and I can mention that for my family.

My father had to deal with bomb threats back in Minnesota when I was growing up for the work that he was doing. But obviously what happened in Kansas was a huge shot across the bow, especially with the support of Kansas. And Kansas demographics are a lot like our district. We call it CD3 here. And there's obviously a lot of buyer's remorse in the Republican Party for Roe being overturned. You saw a lot of people go up on their website and literally scrape a lot of their extremist views because they realize they're not politically popular. And I'm not even sure if those members believed it or not. A little bit to Lauren Boebert's credit, she is sticking to her guns that under no circumstances

should the life of the mother, the health of the mother, rape or incest be any part of any conversations for exceptions regarding women's reproductive health freedom. And that puts her in probably like eight or 10% of the country. And so that's been a really big thing we're talking about. On the economic stuff, I think she's about 0 for 5 in her small business career. I certainly haven't had a perfect career, but I've had a pretty good run as a small business owner, as well as working with central banks and foreign ministers all over the world, literally.

And so I think people are just seeing that at some point, competency matters and focus on the job of what you're supposed to do really, really matters. And we're going to continue with that throughout day one. Again, I've been to a lot of countries. I wish we had more conversations about foreign affairs and foreign policy, but given that food costs and gas prices and rent and mortgages are spinning out of control in CD3, I fully appreciate that we really need to hammer away on that number one issue to make sure that all these families in CD3 have this livability access, whether it's healthcare, good education, safety in their communities. And these are the kitchen table issues that really mattered to a lot of people. And that's what I'm focused on as well.

And perhaps no candidate on the right has leaned into this brand of MAGA extremism like Lauren Boebert has. As you said, she's owning it. All right. I mean, she's been expressing her beliefs. And I think this is particularly dangerous that the United States of America should be a Christian nationalist nation, which flies totally in the face of our separation of church and state, which she claims doesn't even exist at all. Boebert said, and I quote, I'm tired of this separation of church and state junk that's not in the Constitution. What do you make of that?

And why should Coloradans of all religions be fearful of that mindset? So at a higher level, another quip I have, which is met with sincerity, and I got this from my buddy, Dean Phillips, who's also who's a member of Congress in Minnesota. I grew up. He talks about this anger attainment industry that has kind of taken over politics and that ecosystem. And I think that Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Green are the queens of this anger attainment industry, yelling and screaming, not even focusing on those that vote for her, those that do voted for her. And so that resonates with a lot of people. Now, there's a couple of subsets of that anger attainment. One of them is this

conversation about the separation of church and state. I don't's a couple of subsets of that entertainment. One of them is this conversation about the separation of church and state. I don't spend a lot of time talking about Christian nationalism. I don't think any religion nationalism is a good thing. But without a doubt, we're not shy letting people know that she really does want an almost theocracy. When you start saying that the church and the state should be mingled, you really start to question if someone actually understands the U.S. Constitution, especially that First Amendment and especially that Establishment Clause, which is one of the bedrocks of our country. So I'm supportive of all religions. However, people want to practice it. That's all good for them. But we certainly, certainly, certainly do not want any type of state control of government, of religion.

And these debates have been so incredibly interesting to watch. I mean, we've seen in the past few days, we've seen the Herschel Walker, Raphael Warnock debate. We saw you a few weeks ago go against Lauren Boebert, or I thought it was you going against Lauren Boebert, but Lauren Boebert seemed to think that she was debating Nancy Pelosi, spouting her name over and over and over again. First, what were you even thinking during that debate when it was like she wasn't even competing against you? Well, the first thing she did was spend 10 minutes attacking the moderator. And the moderator, I believe, is a moderate Republican. We were at this thing called the Club 20, which is an

organization of 20 counties. And 90% of the members of Club 20 are agricultural, ranching, farming, or in the energy sector. You know, this was not the Boulder, Colorado Botanical Club. So, you know, this goes back to the whole point. She's the gift that keeps on giving. I don't know why you would take a moderator at all, let alone one that's probably kind of on your side if you want to get into that conversation. But I felt like I was interrupting an Aspen City Council debate for City Council between Nancy Pelosi and Lauren Boebert, because I think like I was interrupting an Aspen city council debate between for city council, between Nancy Pelosi and Lauren Boebert, because I think my name was mentioned once. And she mentioned Nancy Pelosi's name like 32 times. It was really funny. A Twitter summary

of this that I think got like one and a half million views or something like that. And this is coming from a guy who had about literally had 117, not 117,000. I had 117 followers halfway through our primary. Now we have over 150,000 and people are just kind of catching on. And so, and again, you know, she must have some statistics that Nancy Pelosi is a great thing to always talk about. I've said with respect, I'm not going to be supportive of Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House. She's done a great job, but I do think it's time to kind of see those next generation

of congressional leaders come up. The Democrats have a deep bench, and I mean that with respect. But she obviously just, she doesn't have a lot to go on about me. And so she's really kind of focusing on this national issue of really bashing against Nancy Pelosi and President Biden. Now, certainly an interesting strategy to watch. I mean, going through that process, do you have any advice to some of these other Democratic candidates going against extremists like Lauren Boebert on how to handle the way they debate by just spreading these lies and having these distractions and diversions? You know, one of the things that's been hard and I knew was going to be hard from the start is I have a true belief that people want the circus to stop. So they want to see someone

that's respectful and thoughtful and focused on the issues. But at the same time, when you start running against some of these name brand extremists that are part of this entertainment industry, a lot of people really want to see you push back. And so we've been relentless on her votes and we're not spending any time on her personal foibles. I don't believe the personal issues of people and their background and their family should be in any type of way be brought into these elections. But, you know, when she shows a picture of standing next to vets, we point out right away that 80% of the time she's voted against veterans groups. When she has a picture of firefighters, seven seconds later, Nicole is up there pointing to the exact date and time and legislation where she voted against increasing support for firefighters. And we can go on and on and on. Considering she votes against almost

anything, any group that she's with, we can easily point out where she has voted against the interest of the district's needs. And we have a lot of veterans in CD3 in Western and Southern Colorado. It's a really important group as it is as a nation. And so, you know, we're very focused on that. So we hammer her on her votes and we hammer her on her zero for 39 legislative career, if you will. You know, are you trying to be zero for 78? Is that your pitch for reelection? That's what we're focused on.

We do it hard and we focus on these issues. We don't get into the whole personal mudslinging. I don't think people want to hear that. That's all part of this issue with the circus to stop. And it stops good people from running. You know, my eight years on city council, I called it elected community service. My wife's Katie is the president of our school board. That's elected community service. And I wanted to step up because I actually thought I had something to offer because what I've said now is what I shared in the Democratic primary. And what I've said as a father and a husband of 19 years and as a small business owner, which is just kind of let's just kind of focus on playing inside the 20, both sides of the

20-yard line or both sides of the 30 yard line. Move the needle forward. 80% of the country is not spending all their time on Twitter as they are. They're really focused on making sure that their families are looked after. They have safe schools, safe communities. They have a good job prospect and they have a time to relax and see their friends in their community. It's funny because you clearly have a wealth of policy proposals, but it seems like almost above all, your big thing is like, don't we just want to be normal? Everybody like cut out the, like these people are weird. They're extremists. Like,

don't we just want normalcy? Do you think more campaigns should just be highlighting that fact? Like we want to get back to normal enough for the circus. The hard part is, and again, and I like my numbers, whatever, but yes, I have some policy chops, if you will, and I like to know what's going on. But the higher level conversation to stop the madness. But again, you have eight or nine brand name extremist Republicans, and they're extremists partly in their views, but partly how they allocate and advocate those views. And again, when you win 65 to 75% of the vote, whether you're Republican or Democrat, the chances of losing are so slim. And it's taken a while. People are catching up now. Here I am with you guys on a national level. The people are realizing this

is the probably, sadly, I wish there were more opportunities, but this is probably the only place in the entire country that we can see an emotional wind to stop this madness. And so we have a rare opportunity and a rare window to do that. But hopefully next time, we can just start chipping away at the extremism and kind of work our way from there. But yeah, I mean, I'm a big believer that people want the circus to stop whether you're in Georgia, or whether you're in Colorado, or whether you're in Nevada, or whether you're in New Mexico. And it's really about toning down the rhetoric and toning down the volume and focus on the issues that matter to the most people. And this entertainment industry about extremism is just not working for her. And that's why she's,

you know, we think we're statistically tied, if not a little bit ahead and we're, we're marching forward 24 seven. We're about to launch a 12 day, 70 city stop. We're going to go visit 70 communities, including some that have hundreds of people in them up to our largest Pueblo, which is about 150,000 people. And we're just miles and miles and miles on the road. And it's awesome. That's fantastic. And I promise this will be the only time I ask you about your opponent here. But since you brought up sort of how people are sick of that extremism, how they just want normalcy back in their lives, back in their politics. What did you make of the fact that on January 6th, Boebert tweeted, today is 1776 at 830 a.m.

And then not only did she do that, hours later, I'm reading this now, at 2.18 p.m., she said the Speaker has been removed from the chambers, essentially letting folks know that the Speaker of the House has been moved and that, you know, find her somewhere else at this point. What do you make of those comments? I mean, they're disturbing, aren't they? They're horrifying and they're scary. And let's be serious for a minute. There are two or three hundred Republicans running for some level of state or national level. They're just election deniers and sending out those tweets that puts her at the very, very top of these election deniers. And it's really scary, scary. I mean, she is showing up at conservative rallies with Victor Obban, who is an autocratic, you know, anti-Semitic,

homophobic, xenophobic leader of Hungary. She just tweeted out a couple of days ago that she's super excited about the election results in Italy. I'm not sure if she actually knows what fascism is, but basically there was a pro-fascism collective that ended up winning in Italy and she's supporting them. There were three votes over the past couple months, over the past six months, about basically Ukraine versus Putin. And she decided to side with Putin three times, one of seven on one votes, I think one of 17 and one of 20. So she's just out of step, not only with that, but with the Republican Party. And why can I understand some Republican Republican votes for some things about that, this or that, lower taxes, different regulation.

Those are all interesting conversations to have. But why you are backing fascism, why you are backing Viktor Orban from Hungary, why you are backing Putin is beyond me. And this is why we're starting to get more and more letters to the editor talking about conservatives and Republicans that want to see are gone, not just the traditional Democratic and independent voters of the coalition that we're building to win. Absolutely. And I want to go back to something that you said pretty quickly when we started this interview, but I don't want to look it over. So your son's been helping out with the campaign. That's amazing. The family's been helping out. That's awesome. Usually, you know, in politics, it could go either way, you know, maybe sometimes the wife

or the husband or whomever in the family doesn't want their person to run because, you know, they're a little bit scared about what attention that brings. But so far, everything seems super supportive. How cool has that been? And what sort of bonding, you know, has come from all of this? No, it's been awesome. You know, my wife and I, she comes from a pretty strong business background as well. And we've been rock solid through this whole thing through today and going on forward. I think her and Felix kind of, my six-year-old son will kind of really push me over the edge to really get in and do this. And they saw that opportunity. They saw me having these conversations about normalcy and bipartisanship, and they really pushed me hard about it. And it

was, I'm, it was really glad that it did. My 15 year old daughter has been super helpful as well, more behind the scenes, but she's been super supportive. And I know she's proud of her father that's really willing to stand up and take some blows in the public sphere. And we knew that we were going to kind of, you know, the mud dragon has been started and stuff like that, but we're, we're remaining on the high road. Um, and as far as doing, you know, we're doing, I'm basically doing a 20,000 mile, uh, road trip with my son. Um, luckily he's doing most of the driving these days. So it allows me to look at some other stuff, but it just been great. Um, he has some of his high school friends that came out, uh, over the summer and we were just driving around. And there's no better education than driving thousands and thousands of miles, visiting a wide variety of people.

This district is incredibly diverse. You have a couple kind of high-end ski towns, if you will, and you have some of the most remote, some of the poorest counties in the country. A lot of agriculture, a lot of farming, a lot of energy production. Pueblo is incredibly proud to be blue collar working class, you know, to toot Pueblo's horn. They have 150 year old steel mill that produces produced a lot of the railroad ties for the country. It's 90 percent solar power now. It's just a great story of authentic facts of how we can do some of this energy transformation

that we, as we try to manage this climate crisis that we're dealing with. And also they're about to become the world leader in producing the wind turbine towers, these 300 foot towers that you see in kind of the plains of the United States. And so there's just a lot of great things driving around. I'm getting fat, but besides that, at least I'm eating a lot of real good food. Aren't we all? Aren't we all? No cooler thing to do than that bonding experience with the family. That is so awesome. And as you're driving around, obviously you're talking to tons of different folks on the ground over there. What are some sort of local, hyper-local issues that you're having your conversations with that aren't traditionally getting the

mainstream quote-unquote media pickup that you'd like to talk about here? So Western and Southern Colorado, the biggest town, Pueblo, 150,000. Second biggest town, 100,000 around Grand Junction. After that, we go down to a couple of 25,000 person towns, and then you get into some really, really small towns. And even in Pueblo and Grand Junction, there's this commonality about community, about living, not in a really big city. And whether you're rich or poor, right or left, Anglo or Hispanic, it really is about living in a smaller town and feeling like a smaller community and running into people, you know, at the restaurants and at the bars and at the bowling alleys and at the softball games. And that's a common theme I hear a lot about.

Ag is very important and ranching is really important, but water is the number one issue that is perennial number one. Obviously, if we weren't having 40-year high inflation, that would be the conversation we'd be having even more so now. And water out West, in Wyoming and New Mexico and Utah, but especially in Colorado, the vast majority of the water that feeds California and Nevada and Arizona and Wyoming

and New Mexico and Utah actually come from the headwaters of the Colorado mountains. And we're running into a 20-year drought, which is a subset of a 1,200-year drought. And so this is a very serious conversation about water. And as I mentioned before, it's all about competency. There's not a single person, no matter how extreme you are on the right or how extreme you are on the left, we all understand that water is a lifeblood for ecological reasons, for the climate crisis, for our recreation industry, for our ranchers and our farmers and our energy production. It's partly old line energy, as well as the solar, the wind and the geothermal. And water is,

again, just the lifeblood of that. And that's something that doesn't get a lot of national attention. But this is how we're winning a lot of people over, especially those in the business community, especially those that have families that are ranchers and farmers. It's purely a competency question. And purely, are you actually going to focus on the job of making sure that our district, our families and our businesses and our communities retain as much water as possible? I love the way you say that too, in position and about competency. It's something we say on the show a lot. It's like, we don't elect leaders because problems aren't going to arise. We elect leaders because problems will inevitably arise. And we want the best person possible to be in that situation to help lead when there's a crisis. And so, I mean, go on, please. I was going to say, I think someone

read an ad, this was a foreign relations ad run a long time ago, but like, who do you want to answer the phone at two o'clock in the morning when there's an emergency, an emergency national affairs issue? But my view is not so much who do you want if the phone happens to ring at 10 a.m. It's basically who do you want on a daily basis at the 10 a.m. meeting in Washington, D.C., in the three o'clock meeting in Washington, D.C. on a daily basis about anything to do with your family, anything to do about your business, anything to do about your community. Who do you want sitting there on a daily basis, not just if something goes wacky? And that's what a lot of people. Perfectly, perfectly, perfectly said. And so we have a super passionate audience out there,

super passionate listenership. Where can folks find out more about your campaign? Where can they help donate? Where can they help? Text bank, phone bank, wherever. Thanks, guys. Yeah. So adamforcolorado.com is our headquarters. It's the big focus of kind of everything goes on in our campaign. For those of you to make some phone calls on our behalf, we go from 4 to 6 p.m. Colorado time daily. Felix at Adam for Colorado dot com. There's a way to donate on there. We've had a really good run of money lately. Sadly, I wish we didn't need as much as we did, but she's well financed from around the country. And so whether it's $5 to $2,900,

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