The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump SCARED AS HELL by Biden MICHIGAN PRIMARY DOMINATION

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on the results from the Michigan Primary where President Biden exceeded polling data and expectations yet again and Donald Trump underperformed expectations and polling data yet again. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. The correct headline from the Michigan primary this evening, which the media fails to understand, is that President Biden won Michigan in a landslide while Donald Trump continues to notably underperform. Shout out to Mystery Solvent 2.0 for that headline suggestion because it is true. As Norman Ornstein writes, the lesson we should learn here is stop hyping and paying attention to 538 and real clear politics polling averages. They are deeply flawed. When all is said and done, folks, it looks like President Biden in Michigan will finish with about 80% of the vote in Michigan. If you want to talk about domination, if you want to talk about crushing, if you want to use all of those superlatives that the media seems to love to use when it comes to Donald Trump,

they actually apply here to President Biden. And I understand the media was hyping the uncommitted vote, and they were saying that was going to be somewhere above 20%. It could be as much as 30%. It seems that the media had their headlines written. Axios had their headline written. Daily Beast had their headlines written. Axios had their headline written. Daily Beast had their headlines written. New York Times had their headlines written about the uncommitted vote.

In fact, there seemed to have been more press in Dearborn, Michigan than there were even voters at some of the polling stations there. Now, I do not want to downplay the importance of President Biden and the Democratic Party recognizing very, very important issues that need to be addressed and shored up in Michigan. And so I don't want to make light of that. But I do want to point out that the uncommitted will probably fall in the range of 12%, 13%. By reference, President Obama in 2012 for his reelection, the uncommitted vote there was around 11%. So really within about a 3% to 2% margin there. You go back to 2008, the uncommitted vote in Michigan was 39.61%. And if

you just want to look at just the raw numbers in 2012, the popular vote by evening, was at 194,000 votes with basically an 80% lead. Now, on the other hand, you had Donald Trump grossly, grossly underperforming there as well. And I think that is part of a consistent story we've seen in New Hampshire, what we've seen in Iowa, what we've seen in South Carolina, and what we're now seeing in Michigan. As Adam Carlson points out, don't look now. Trump is currently on pace to underperform his polling margin by 15 points. The final 538 average had Trump winning by plus 57. The New York Times needle as of 20% reporting was Trump plus 42. But no doubt an underperformance by Donald Trump, an overperformance from the polling

by President Biden. But folks, if you just focused on the data that was staring us all in the face, not the narratives that were out there, this is what we've been talking about on the Midas Touch Network. I'm going to go share with you what some people were saying in just a moment, some voters, how they think about these issues. But first and foremost, I want to play for you a brief portion of my interview with Simon Rosenberg, a Democratic strategist who has been here with us at the Midas Touch Network, going through all the raw data back from the red wave days that never came. And here's what Simon Rosenberg's take is. Let's play this brief

clip. He is underperforming now in four states inconsistently. He's spending more money than he's taking in right now, which is a terrifying thing for a candidate at this point in an election. His party is broke. They're replacing the leadership in what is becoming a very controversial and debilitating process at the RNC. We've had dozens of party leaders all across the country indicted in the effort to overturn the election who played critical roles in Trump's reelection in 2020. He's, you know, the Republicans in the House are abandoning ship and leaving and retiring in unprecedented numbers. He's losing all this, you know, he's getting crushed in court, as you talk about all the time, and, you know, suggesting that he's going to have another few months of really bad outcomes

ahead of him. When you look at all that together, right, yes, you can look at a few polls where he's doing well, there's lots of polls showing Biden doing well. But when you assess it as a political strategist who's been through elections, the warning signs for Donald Trump on the Republican side, they are blinking very loud. They're making very loud noises. This guy's a troubled candidate, and he's positioned himself too far to the right. He's pushing away middle voters that he needs to gain more votes. And the fact that we've seen repeatedly now in all three of these states, and we're not going to have this data in Michigan because there weren't exit polls tonight, that we've seen that a substantial chunk of Haley voters are not just open to voting against, open to voting against him. They're open to voting for

Joe Biden. And we haven't seen polling like that where people, a chunk, a big chunk, it's different numbers, but it's, you know, 40% of Haley voters in Iowa, over 50% in South Carolina have said they're willing, they're open to voting for the candidate on the other side. The last time we saw data like that was in the 1984 election. It's been 40 years that we've seen some kind of potential for a significant crossover. So when I add all this up, right, Joe Biden is a good president, the Democratic Party is strong, winning elections all across the country. The Republican Party is broke and broken and positioned themselves far more extreme and dangerous than they were, you know, in all these elections that they've been losing. You know, I would much rather be us than them as we

hurtle, you know, deeper into 2024. I also want to share this with you. This is Jeff Timmer, who was formerly the executive director of the Michigan Republican Party. Let's play this clip of Jeff. The big story is, it's not just that Donald Trump continues to lose either three or four out of every 10 Republican votes. It's that those votes, those voters are never, ever, ever coming back to Donald Trump. Chlamydia is more popular than Donald Trump among college-educated white voters, especially white women, and even non-college white mainstream Protestant women. The fact that Donald Trump will never get their votes, that's the big story out of Michigan tonight. The way it should be covered, Donald Trump's results are much weaker than they appear to be. And Joe Biden's results are stronger than expected. Now let's take a look at some of the Michigan voters right here. This is an 80-year-old

voter right here who describes why she will never vote for Donald Trump. Play this clip. NATO is a bulwark against Russian aggression. And he was ready to walk out of that. There are other ways he treated the people of Muslim religious background, his dirty mouth. I think he's pretty much an asshole to coin a phrase. And it's terrifying to me, at 80, to think that he would be one of the last presidents. He could decimate social programs that I've been committed to and worked on for a very long time.

And so there's a whole variety, as well as his personal way of dealing with people and the world. Here is a Nikki Haley voter explaining why she will never vote for Donald Trump. I'm voting to stop Trump because I believe in democracy and I feel like it's important that we fight for democracy while we still can. And now let me share with you what a Donald Trump voter sounds like. Here, let me play this clip later. Ukraine, would it give you any pause? I don't have a problem with Russia. I really don't. Why? I have a problem with Ukraine. They're corrupt.

I think that people are just ridiculous that they think that Putin's such this enemy. He isn't doing anything. He just wants back what was his. But he invaded. He invaded. He wants back what was his. He invaded Ukraine, killing thousands of people. That's fine. That's fine with me. As a veteran yourself, does it concern you at all that Russian aggression could move even beyond Ukraine? I don't think Putin's a problem. I think Zelensky's the problem. Why do you think Putin's not the problem? He's the one that invaded

Ukraine and has killed thousands of people. Because Putin is trying to save his country from the likes of idiots like Zelensky and the elitists. Taking a look at this New York Times headline, it says Biden and Trump win Michigan. President Biden won the state's Democratic primary election, but faced opposition over his Gaza policy. And Donald Trump easily beat Nikki Haley. And I'm not saying that Biden did not face criticism over his policy. That's not what I'm saying.

But when you see a headline like that written by the New York Times and you go, how in the world do they even come up with that headline if they don't write that headline in advance? They have that narrative ready to go because it just doesn't match the reality. Daily Beast, soon after the polls closed Tuesday in Michigan, the uncommitted campaign looked like it would even surpass 100,000 Democratic voters, perhaps even 150,000 votes, a major sign of trouble for Biden. Okay, but that's not consistent with the actual data, the percentages, what y'all were saying. It's just inconsistent. And that's what I just want to focus on. I want to focus on what the underlying data is. And look, a lot of work to do for Democrats in the

pro-democracy community, for sure. But right now, if you're looking at the data, I think by and large, the American people recognize that, look, President Biden, is he perfect? No, but what politicians are. But this is someone who's normal, who's compassionate, who espouses values of democracy, who's compassionate, and then they compare it to Donald Trump. That's what we're seeing in all of this polling data. So a great evening for President Biden, a bad evening for Donald Trump, and we will keep on reporting here on the Midas Touch Network. Thank you so much for watching our coverage of the Michigan 2024 primaries. Hit subscribe and help us get to 3 million subs.

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