The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump Screws His Entire Legal Defense in Front of World

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump making a stunning admission that will screw him in all the lawsuits that have been filed against him and Musk. Naked Wines: Head to https://NakedWines.com/MEIDAS and use code MEIDAS for both the code AND PASSWORD. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Donald Trump praised Elon Musk and specifically referred to Elon Musk as the head of Doge, which Donald Trump says was a department that he and Elon Musk created. Now, this directly contradicts the declarations and affidavits that were submitted to federal courts, which said that Doge is not a new department or agency and that Elon Musk is not its head. It's not its leader. I want you to watch what Donald Trump just said. He's going to potentially cause a lot of lawyers that work at the DOJ to be very nervous tonight that they may lose their bar licenses. And he also provided a gift to the people who are suing him, suing Musk, to get accountability. Here, play this clip. And I have created the brand new Department of Government Efficiency, GOJ.

Perhaps you've heard of it. Perhaps. Which is headed by Elon Musk, whoge in the various court proceedings. Take a look at this one, for example, and there have been declarations like this in numerous cases. Anna Bauer says the following. In a new filing, a Trump administration official says that Elon Musk is not the administrator in charge of Doge. He's a senior advisor to the president per the declaration. And you take a look at this

declaration right here, and it says the following. This is written by somebody named Joshua Fisher, who may be a little nervous tonight after submitting this declaration. It says, I am the director of the Office of Administration. I have personal knowledge of Mr. Musk's employment status within the federal government. Mr. Musk is an employee of the White House. He holds the position as a non-career special government employee, SGE. In that job, Musk is a senior advisor to the president. It says it's not uncommon to have that position. Then it goes on to say the U.S. Doge Service is a component of the executive office of the president. The U.S. Doge Service temporary organization is within U.S. Doge Service. Both are separate from the White House office. Mr. Musk is an employee of the White House office.

He is not an employee of the U.S. Doge Service or U.S. Doge Service temporary organization. Mr. Musk is not the U.S. Doge service administrator. Huh. Because Donald Trump right there seemed to say that Elon Musk is the head of Doge, which is its own department, not something that already existed. Let's take a look at some of the other court cases where we can find various representations that were made to the courts that, again, seemed to contradict what you just heard there from Donald Trump. Like, here's a case before Judge Chong. It's a three-hour preliminary injunction hearing, which took place last week, involving a case

against Elon Musk and Doge for violating the Employment Clause. And this federal judge grew frustrated when government's lawyer was unable to answer question about Doge's chain of command and Musk's role. I'm sure what Donald Trump just said at the joint session is going to be shown to this judge quite immediately. Here's the conversation or the questions from the judge and the government lawyer. Judge, who was the head of Doge before Amy Gleeson? Because one of the things that the Trump administration did is basically pick this like random person who worked at UDS, the United States Digital Services.

And her name was Amy Gleeson and said that she is actually the head of Doge to try to use her as a cover-up for Elon Musk, who's really running the show, as you heard Donald Trump just said. So this judge is like, who's Amy Gleeson? You're saying Amy Gleeson? Who's this person? Who's the head of Doge before Gleeson? Government counsel. I can't answer that. I don't know. Judge, I mean, that seems like a pretty knowable fact. You don't know who was running it before Amy Gleason? Government counsel. I'm sure it's knowable. I just don't know it. I'm very conscious of being accurate with the court. I just, I can't make a representation, Your Honor.

Judge, have you asked anybody? Government lawyer. I have not asked. Actually, strike that. I have asked previously, but I wasn't able to get the answer. Judge, are you saying there was an administrator before Ms. Gleason or that there was nobody until this new person, Gleason, was put in government counsel? I'm not saying either because I just don't know. Judge, is there a piece of paper counsel, like an appointment paper? Is there one that says Elon Musk, senior advisor to the president, not the head of Doge, government lawyer? Sorry, now you're talking about Elon Musk, not the Doge administrator, judge. Listen, counsel, the plaintiffs who are suing Trump and Doge are saying that Musk is the head of Doge. You're saying Musk isn't the head of Doge,

but we can't tell you who was, which admittedly is highly suspicious. So I'm not at this point saying that you're not being candid, but this whole operation raises question. There's an affidavit saying he's a senior advisor of the president, but there's a strange disconnect where he has referred to himself in public as affiliated with Doge and not as a senior advisor to the president. Until recently, after these lawsuits were filed, his position apparently has changed. Having some backup documentation for that would be useful. This is also from that same encounter with the judge. The judge goes, so why do we get a declaration from these people, but there's no documentation

or anything there to which the government lawyer said, look, look, judge, it's just important that everyone understands the context here. Since January 20th, we received approximately 80 lawsuits and our staff at the Justice Department's federal programs branch has been cut in half. We have about half the number of staff we had in November and we are working on expedited schedules. The judge is like saying, so I'm just trying to understand this. Like, are you saying that you don't have the staff?

This is what the judge goes. So you're saying the Justice Department isn't taking this case seriously, that you're not staffed sufficiently, to which the lawyer goes, it's the opposite. I've been working day and night since January 20th. We're working really hard. And the judge is like, I understand that, but come on here. So let me just show you. I mean, and by the way, now Donald Trump clearly said Elon Musk is, uh, is the head of Doge. I mean, you heard him say that. Ever walk into a store and just stare at the wall of wine, like it's some kind of cryptic puzzle. Yeah, same. That's why I stopped wasting time guessing and started getting my wine from Naked Wines where the best independent winemakers deliver right to my door.

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judge yesterday was saying that they didn't know who the Doge administrator was and was asking the lawyer for the administration who it was. And the lawyer responded, I don't know the answer to that. Can you tell us who the administrator of Doge is? Again, I've been asked to answer this question. Elon Musk is overseeing Doge. There are career. There are. No, Elonk is a special government employee which i've also been asked and have answered that question as well there are career officials at doge there are political appointees at doge i'm not going to reveal the name of that individual from this podium i'm happy to follow up and provide that to you um but we've been incredibly transparent about the way that doge is working john so then So then she said it was Amy Gleason and then they just made up that it was this Amy Gleason person.

And so she goes, I told you who it was. It's Amy Gleason. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows it. Aren't there bigger things in the world who the Doge administrator is? Here she is saying that. Did you announce your position to the rest of Doge administrator is, here she is saying that. Did you announce her position to the rest of the Doge staff? We, everybody knew and we said who she was to all of you because you are hounds in the media

who are so obsessed with this for some reason. So in the effort of transparency, we told you who that person is. There are so many bigger things in the world than who the Doge administrator is. But for some reason, everybody in the press corps is so obsessed with this that you were incessantly asking. So we thought, OK, we will be transparent. So now you know who it is. Any further questions? And then here she is saying she's been the Doge administrator for quite some time. And then the reporters like, but it seems like the Doge staff just found out yesterday. You're a play this clip. So Amy Gleason has been the Doge administrator for quite some time, I believe several weeks, maybe a month. I'm not actually sure of the specific timeline.

She's a career official. She's doing her job as the administrator of this organization. I know everybody's very interested in her name and who she is and what she does. There's a lot of people who work for the federal government. They're just trying to do their jobs, and, you know, that's what she's doing. The DOSH staff told us yesterday that they found out about her being the administrator yesterday. Why is that? You have to ask them.

They're clearly unaware. I don't know. Did you announce her position to the rest of the DOSH staff? you have to ask them. They're clearly unaware. I don't know. We, um, we, everybody knew, and we said who she was to all of you because you are hounds in the media who are so obsessed with this for some reason. Now, see, one of the other big things as well is if this is a new department that was created, as Donald Trump said, it's a new department. A new department requires Congress because we were supposed to be a democracy, not an authoritarian regime. And so this is why the whole kind of con, the fraud that the Trump administration was pushing was to say that Doge wasn't a new thing.

They were saying you have the United States Digital Service, UDS, which was already in existence. But by the way, what they were basically doing was just like helping with the websites. They were like almost like IT support. Like it wasn't government agencies and nothing to do with that. So what the what the Trump administration, the regime tried to say is that, oh, UDS is Doge. So Doge just rebranded was a rebrand of UDS. It wasn't like they created a new department and Elon Musk is not its head. Because if you had to do that, then Elon Musk has to sit for depositions and he's got to answer for what's going on,

which they want to hide. That's why they're saying, oh, he's a special advisor to avoid FOIA requests, Freedom of Information requests, because he doesn't want to have to answer for it. And if it's a new department, Congress had to create it. So by Donald Trump saying what you heard at the outset, it's basically a stunning admission, also not that stunning, that the whole operation is unlawful. I bet you lawyers start using that right away and they're going to go to court with it. It's what I would do. It's the first thing I would do, take that right away to the judge. Tell me what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers. Thanks for watching. The truth is more important than ever. Check out our new Truth Over Lies collection at store.midastouch.com. All 100% USA union made.