The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump SPIRALS after Branded CONVICTED FELON

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

On this episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast: Convicted Felon Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans struggle to cope after the crushing verdict by a New York jury; A key MAGA source of disinformation is in ...deep legal trouble; President Biden announces a new Gaza peace plan; OPEC throws in the white towel after America becomes a global energy leader; Republicans are still attacking Dr. Fauci; and more! Ben, Brett and Jordy break it down. Deals from our sponsors! Smileactives: Visit https://Smileactives.com/meidas today to receive a special buy-one-get-one-free offer! Beam: Get put to 40% off for a limited time when you go to https://shopbeam.com/meidas and use code MEIDAS Miracle Made: Go to https://trymiracle.com/meidas to save 40% and use code MEIDAS to claim your free 3-piece towel set and save an extra 20%! Moink: Keep American farming going by signing up at https://MoinkBox.com/MEIDASTOUCH RIGHT NOW and listeners of this show get FREE bacon in your first box Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/coalition-of-the-sane/id1741663279 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:34 who recently gave an interview on MSNBC over the weekend and give a little hat tip to Takapina saying, look, you could say a lot of things, but do not say this was rigged. Do not say that President Biden was involved in this at all. I was Donald Trump's lawyer on this case. I quit before the trial for my own reasons, but this was not a rigged trial. Donald Trump got a fair process and he lost. Again, that's coming from Tacky Takapina. Maybe we should call him Tactful Takapina. Also, a GOP subcommittee hearing was held earlier in the day. And as they're trying to change the narrative, they think bringing in Dr. Fauci and trying to spread lies about the origins of
Starting point is 00:03:27 COVID is going to help their cause. And you know, when they bring in Dr. Fauci, they become extra unhinged. And so this hearing today represents like the worst of the worst of what the Republican Party has become. Attacking a public, someone who's devoted their lives to public service like Dr. Fauci has. Dr. Fauci has been a renowned medical professional for over 50 years. And to see these MAGA Republicans attack him over and over again in such personal terms, saying, we should arrest you, was what Marjorie Taylor Greene was saying. I'm not going to call you a doctor, is what Marjorie Taylor Greene was saying. But the pro-democracy Democrats pushed back, and I want to give a hat tip to them as well.
Starting point is 00:04:17 We'll share with you everything that went down at the committee hearing. It definitely backfired for the MAGA Republicans. And while the MAGA Republicans are behaving that way and their leader is a convicted felon and someone who's been found liable for sexual assault, on the other hand, you have President Biden's policies are working. We see the CHIPS Act has resulted in massive private sector investment as well in the semiconductor industry. Actually reviving this industry is a pretty big accomplishment. Also, President Biden's policies regarding the oil reserves here in the United States and trying to stop the obvious manipulation by OPEC has seen to pay off.
Starting point is 00:05:11 You have all of these countries affiliated with OPEC, like Saudi Arabia, trying to subsidize their ability to create artificial scarcity to try to jack up the price per barrel. But they had this meeting today. They can't compete with America as the number one oil supplier and provider in the entire world right now. So we're actually seeing a massive drop in the price per barrel of crude. And we'll talk a little bit about that. President Biden's also rolling up his sleeves and brokering a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. And he's not shying away. Yes, it's a very controversial topic for him to talk about, but he recognizes that as the leader of the United States of America, he has a job to do. And so in a press conference on Friday, in addition to addressing
Starting point is 00:06:07 the verdict and what law and order means, how Donald Trump got a fair process and a jury of Donald Trump's peers convicted Donald Trump and the process is not rigged. President Biden was addressing other topics, which may be controversial and difficult for the campaign, but President Biden realizes, I'm the president. I got to roll up my sleeves and do work. Meanwhile, on the other hand, you have the MAGA Republicans fueled by Donald Trump's ranting and ravings now introducing their own proposals that are never going to go anywhere because they don't control the Senate, nor do they control the state of New York. They say they're going to defund Alvin Bragg.
Starting point is 00:06:49 They're going to defund New York Attorney General Letitia James. They say they are going to provide no funding to the FBI. Great work, MAGA Republicans, for showing us who you are. Law and order. This is the Midas Touch podcast, folks. I'm Ben Mycelis, joined by Brett and Jordy. I wonder how they landed on those specific prosecutors out of all the prosecutors in the country. Very, very curious that they landed on those few. I'm doing great, brothers. It's always great to be here. It's great to be here with the Midas Mighty. I had so much
Starting point is 00:07:23 fun on our Patreon Zoom chat with everybody after Thursday's show. It was a great time. I want to thank everybody who participated in that. saying, you know, all Americans commit three felonies a day. You probably committed six felonies today. I just want to let everybody know what made it through the weekend. I don't think I committed a single felony. So, you know, I don't know if I need a hat tip from the- Keep the hot street going, big bro. Keep it going. But, oh my gosh, they're so, so, so nuts. Ben, to your point about President Biden speaking on Friday about Israel and Hamas and Palestine, those are the moments where I think President Biden really shines because I think especially when you compare him to somebody like Donald Trump, in Trump, somebody who is only thinking about politics and everything that he does.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Literally every decision he does is politically motivated. And with President Biden, I truly believe that all of his decisions are based on his own personal principles and are based on what he thinks are best for the country. So it probably was more politically expedient for him to call a press conference on the conviction of Trump and spend the entire time talking about the conviction of Donald Trump. That probably would have been the political thing for President Biden to do. But President Biden called on an issue that is one of the most controversial issues imaginable for him to speak about, one of the most difficult issues to speak about, an issue that kind of no matter what you say, you're going to have a whole lot of people mad
Starting point is 00:09:01 at you. And he called that the day after because he is trying to move this peace plan forward. I think that shows you who President Biden is. And it's such an incredible contrast to somebody like Donald Trump and to these Republicans who just absolutely shamed themselves during this hearing today with Dr. Fauci. Just the lowest of the low behavior. But what else could you expect from them? Jordy, how are you doing? You have a good weekend? Everything good on your end? Fantastic weekend, brothers. I'm really excited for the show. Two quick things. Ben,
Starting point is 00:09:34 do we remove tacky from tacky talk of FINA just for this episode and just see how things continue to play out? Here's the thing. I think Ben established, keep the tacky, but it has a double meaning now. Interesting. Because tacky is short for tactful. Interesting. Okay. I dig that. And Ben, how is your wrist? I heard there was a little tennis incident over the weekend. Did the rumors spread to you? Yes, the rumors are true. I had a tennis accident where I was playing really hard. We had two sets, which I won the first set 6-2, second set 6-1. Shout out Jeff Chemerinsky for playing and being a good sport about it. But then we said,
Starting point is 00:10:11 we're going to go that third set. I have to say the scores. Of course he did. He needed to let everyone know that he won. Publicly in front of everybody. Wow. And then I was doing like backpedaling to get that. We said, let's go third set. And you have to imagine like at this period of time in our lives, like Jeff and I, we used to play like 15 years ago. So we're back at it, though. And we play really hard and really aggressive. Almost to the point where the people playing on the courts next to us like kind of laugh us. Cause we're like diving and we're doing everything. And so I went to run back and I tripped over my feet and I landed on my left wrist and it didn't hurt right away. Like it definitely was painful, but then all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:10:55 in the afternoon, it hurt. Like I, I said, I called up, uh, our, our uncle who's a doctor and, um, said the pain's like an eight right now. And he's like, all right. Wow. It was really, really painful, but that's the, that's tennis there. Anyway, let's get, let's get right into it. Jordy, did you commit any felonies this weekend? Zero felonies. I'm good. I'm going to keep the hot streak going. How about you, Bane? Boys. Good job. No felonies this weekend. But that's actually one of the arguments in the ridiculous kind of flood of disinformation and trying to normalize what Donald Trump did. They're like, everybody commits felonies right now. Like, there's three to five felonies committed by people every single day is what the MAGA Republicans put out there. And it's like, that's not, what are you talking about? But maybe in their world, that's the case because the CFO of the pro-Trump digital platform called Epic Time spelled E-P-O-C-H, which is run by the, it's like a Chinese disinformation website run by the Falun Gong group. Well, the CFO was just criminally indicted for many felonies,
Starting point is 00:12:08 charged with participating in a scheme to launder at least $67 million in fraud proceeds. And remember, this is the group, that Falun Gong group, they were the small group of people who actually showed up in front of the Trump criminal trial. There was like five or six of them and they started just like crying after the verdict. Well, it's that group that runs the Epic Times. They're the preferred media source for the Republican Party right now. Ted Cruz and all of them just post this disinformation from the Epic Times all the time. But I want to pause there for one second, pause there for one second. The Republican party's preferred information source that they use in order to attack president Biden and Democrats is an
Starting point is 00:12:59 organization that sows disinformation that is run by a literal Chinese cult. I just want to emphasize this point. The Republican Party uses information from a Chinese cult via the Epic Times, connected with Steve Bannon, of course, in order to spread disinformation and sow discord in our country. Everything they do is just so traitorous. It reminds me of, remember when Matt Gaetz was introducing some sort of evidence that he wanted to introduce during some congressional hearing? And somebody called it out like, Mr. Gaetz, are you introducing literal Chinese propaganda right now? And he was like, no, it's from the, and then he named off the website. And they said, yeah, that's literally a Chinese propaganda website. And he's like, oh, okay. And they were like,
Starting point is 00:13:49 let's strike that from the record, please. It's like they constantly, and I don't think this is a coincidence, find their information sources come from this Russian disinformation, Chinese disinformation, all of our adversaries who want to try to pull Americans apart. They seem to echo each other all the time. Well, I don't want to confuse this indictment for the CFO of the Epoch Times with the other indictment that took place back in March of 2023 with the other Chinese businessman, Miles Guo, who is also one of the people who prop up Steve Bannon. That's a separate source of the disinformation that funds all of MAGA. So you had Miles Guo indicted, Chinese disinformation, and then now you have the
Starting point is 00:14:40 Falun Gong Chinese disinformation from the Epoch Times being indicted. And one of the things that the MAGA Republicans will try to do over and over and over again is just say, look, by the way, on the same day where you have, there it is right there, the same day where you have President Biden's son, Hunter Biden, starting his federal criminal trial in Delaware for a paperwork violation where it was alleged that because Hunter Biden wrote in his book that he was addicted to drugs and did not check the box when he purchased a firearm during the period where he was addicted to drugs, that he was addicted to drugs, that the Republicans who are all for, you can have AR-15s and any guns you want, they go after Hunter Biden
Starting point is 00:15:35 on a paperwork violation based on Hunter Biden's autobiography, where he admitted to being under the influence of drugs involving firearms and not making a disclosure on the exact type of firearm forms that the MAGA Republicans and the NRA doesn't want to exist. So they'll be doing that. And then when their crew, and by the way, do we hear President Biden or are Democrats whining? I mean, do you hear anybody saying, oh, this is rigged and the judge is rigged and this one's rigged and the jury's rigged and the court is freezing and this is so unfair. Do you see President Biden posting it? Not posting anything.
Starting point is 00:16:19 He goes, I love my son. Of course, I'll be supportive of my son. But that's it. That's the post. Our family has been through a lot together. I'm proud of the man my son's become today. And our family is going to always love and support him, period. That's it. I don't have 30 messages from President Biden whining how it's rigged and it's unfair and a special prosecutor was influenced by MAGA Republicans to go after him. You don't see any of that. But anyway, the MAGA Republicans will then
Starting point is 00:16:51 say, oh, the DOJ is going after Miles Guo and Epoch Times because they support MAGA. No, it's because they engage in this type of conduct and the MAGA Republicans led at the type and this type of conduct by Donald Trump. Just take a look over the weekend though. What was Donald Trump doing? Recording propaganda videos of himself in Trump Tower waving to nobody so that they could then tape it and pretend that he was waving to a crowd. That is how he is coping with this. Remember when we reported the previous week after he got booed at the Libertarian Convention, he went to the NASCAR stadium in Charlotte and started waving to the crowd there, even though the crowd was not waving to him. They were watching the race and he was kind of far
Starting point is 00:17:43 away. Then they edit it like that big crowd is there to see him when they're not. These people just want to go to sporting events. Like he's ruining all of these sporting events, right? He just shows up at these events to use the crowds to act like he has all of these support, which he doesn't. Anyway, Brett, show the video if you can of Trump waving to nobody. It's ridiculous. Play this clip. See you later. And usually the camera's at the other angle, so you don't actually see that there's nobody there, but they screwed up and you got a glimpse of it right there. So Donald Trump over the weekend, Fox, all the right-wing propaganda, what were they going with? They were going with
Starting point is 00:18:31 that this criminal trial with 12 jurors who Donald Trump's lawyers selected along with the prosecution, that this was all rigged, that the jurors were rigged, that Biden was the one who convicted Donald Trump. This was actually the chyron on Fox. Biden convicts Trump, then smirks. And this is supposed to be, obviously, we know it's not a real news organization, but their whole op is to frame themselves as one. And they have a chyron like that when there is a jury verdict in our judicial system that finds Donald Trump liable or criminally guilty on 34 separate felony counts. It says Biden convicts Trump, then smirks. Let me just show you what Hillary Clinton said about Trump back in 2016, because she was right on so many things. And in 2016, when Donald Trump would say it was rigged, it was rigged, this is rigged, the Emmys are rigged, everything is rigged. You know, Hillary Clinton was saying, look, that may be funny, but this is a serious issue if you elect him. And now we're seeing what went down. But show this clip from the debates in 2016, what Hillary Clinton said about it. You know, every time Donald thinks things are not going
Starting point is 00:19:49 in his direction, he claims whatever it is, is rigged against him. The FBI conducted a year-long investigation into my emails. They concluded there was no case. He said the FBI was rigged. He lost the Iowa caucus. He lost the Wisconsin primary. He said the Republican primary was rigged. He lost the Iowa caucus. He lost the Wisconsin primary. He said the Republican primary was rigged against him. Then Trump University gets sued for fraud and racketeering. He claims the court system and the federal judge is rigged against him. There was even a time when he didn't get an Emmy for his TV program three years in a row, and he started tweeting that the Emmys were rigged. He should have gotten it.
Starting point is 00:20:27 This is a mindset. This is how Donald thinks. And it's funny, but it's also really troubling. It is really troubling. And you see what Donald Trump was saying, should have got it, should have got it. And that's what he does in our country. And you have this MAGA base that listens and supports him saying this is rigged. And then after that, of course, the 2020 elections was rigged. All of the court cases were rigged. All of the cases that Donald Trump filed to try to overturn the results, including in front of judges he appointed, he says, that was all rigged. Anytime it doesn't go his way, he says it was rigged. The civil fraud trial was rigged. E. Jean Carroll trial was rigged. There have been multiple juries now, a jury that found the Trump organization
Starting point is 00:21:17 guilty on felony counts, two separate juries that found Donald Trump civilly liable, one for sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll and for defamation as well. Two juries there. You've had Justice N'Goran found Donald Trump liable for civil fraud. Now a jury here finding Donald Trump guilty on 34 separate felony counts. This is a pattern in practice. And then he just goes, it's all rigged. And that undermines the very fabric of our institutions here that are so important in our country, Brett.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah. One of the most frustrating things though, that I always try to also ground myself in is the fact that it's one thing for Donald Trump to say all these things. And it's one thing for Donald Trump to do all these things. We know that he's going to say and do all these things, and he's constantly going to be attacking our system. But it's the infrastructure and the kind of structures that are built around Donald Trump that support this, that are really, really, really the even bigger problem. Like the fact that Donald Trump says that, and then he has an organization like the Epic Times to spread his propaganda, for example, or the fact that he has an entire network in Fox to make just absolutely despicable headlines that are just
Starting point is 00:22:31 complete lies. They just lie with such impunity. Biden convicts Trump, then smirks. What a vicious lie. What a vicious lie that is not even based in any fact whatsoever. And quite frankly, the hearings that they have, the news, in quotes, reports that they do, these are things that would make Vladimir Putin blush. These are things that would make Kim Jong-un blush. They are that, that, that crazy. And you have to understand that that's Donald Trump's plan if he were to become president again. Donald Trump wants to remake the United States of America in that same image where reality does not matter the same way reality does not matter in a place like Vladimir Putin's Russia, in a place like North Korea, where he controls all the media and he's able to spread these lies and he has willing accomplices all around him who are willing to parrot these ridiculous ideas. And it doesn't matter how absurd. In fact, the more absurd, the better. That's what Donald Trump thrives on. And unfortunately, we have the system right now that is rewarding this kind of behavior. Well, take a look what even went down this weekend
Starting point is 00:24:00 as well when Fox rushed to platform Donald Trump's propaganda, right? They had the Fox and Friends crew. They did this interview with Donald Trump. When you watch this interview, you can see that it's highly edited. There's abrupt cuts as Donald Trump is saying certain things. It's like, y'all are just making a campaign video for them. This isn't even, this is not anything remotely even close to journalism and news, but even with all of the cuts that they were making on their own. And they were like just such obvious cuts. Like they look like, and Brett, you know, this, like when someone first learns to edit, like, and you see like these abrupt cuts and you're just training people how to edit. Well, can I, can I show people what we mean? Like this is a clip. So I apologize in advance to the audio listeners, cause you're, you're probably not going to be able to pick it up,
Starting point is 00:24:51 but the folks watching right now, and if you're on audio, you know, make sure you subscribe to the Midas Touch YouTube channel. And if you're on YouTube, make sure you subscribe to the Midas Touch audio podcast. Um, so, but this is a perfect example where I know everyone could see it. And as I remember, I'm a, I'm a video editor by trade. Before Midas Touch, I did that. And there are so many other moments that aren't as obvious as this one, but this is one that's so obvious that- You know what it's like, Brett?
Starting point is 00:25:15 If you think about watching a movie from the 50s or the 60s without special effects, and somebody was shooting the ball, and then the ball gets shot and then like the ball just gets like in the hoop. And you're like, okay, that looks horrible. Like how did anyone even buy that? Let's see the version of that here in this interview. I'll show folks this one before we dig into the content, but look closely. You don't have to look that closely, but look closely. But the poll numbers have gone up substantially.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I don't know if that's going to remain that way. You changed your tone at some point during the trial. You catch that? poll numbers have gone up substantially. I don't know if that's going to remain that way. You changed your tone at some point during the trial. You catch that? Yeah, I mean, it's not even like, that's awful. Once again, you don't have to have the years of editing experience I have to see that. I want to show more clips from this Fox interview. It was so bizarre and so unhinged. Donald Trump would say things like, I never said to lock Hillary up. I never led that chant. It was always just my were saying to lock her up and now you're saying that you've gotten locked up, isn't this what you called for? So Donald Trump's way to deal with that is to throw his own supporters under the bus and go, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:26:35 That was the supporters who did that. By the way, the same thing he did on January 6th, throw his supporters under the bus. He continues to throw his supporters under the bus over and over again. But here's the tactic of the authoritarian, that you treat the people you rule over like crap and you make the people you rule over feel worthless and you make them feel that they deserve to be treated this way and that there is no hope. What always made the American experiment different and beautiful was that democracy is hard, but there was always this ability of hope, knowing that
Starting point is 00:27:15 there was law and order, knowing that our messy system still dealt with some of the real devastating problems that exist where you have strong men in the past. It's why lots of people always wondered, how are you able to keep it together there in the United States just based on a constitution that's not all that long, but norms and just a course of dealing. But the same way Donald Trump in all of his business deals took contracts and course of dealings and good faith and ripped it up. That's what Donald Trump and the MAGA Republican Party have done with our great constitution and our incredible country.
Starting point is 00:27:57 But I think people are, I'll talk a little bit about this soon. I think people are now starting to really pay attention though. I think in addition to this verdict, just having an impact in the fact that now Trump's a convicted felon, I think a lot of people are like looking like, let's take a look at Donald Trump's press conference the next day after he was convicted. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like you're saying these things. And it's like, yeah, he's always been saying these things. That's why we keep on showing you them over and over again. Anyway, let's talk about that and more, but let's take our first quick break of the show. Have you ever wished that you had a whiter and brighter smile?
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Starting point is 00:32:20 So definitely check those out. Ben, real quick. Fox News. Before we get into these clips, here's my fear, not my fear, but here's what I know is about to happen come time for the American people to show or to see on full display Donald Trump v. Joe Biden in a debate and just Trump's utter lunacy and just unhinged behavior. Is that to your point, I don't think he's going to debate Donald Trump. I think he's going to use Fox as the propaganda platform that they are for his fireside chat, leverage that and have them market it as if President Biden didn't want to debate Trump on Fox News. And that's going to be their big pitch to the American people. Do you see Fox
Starting point is 00:33:01 continuing to cozy up to Trump as we get closer to the elections? No already scheduled, right? So to me, the key thing is going to be that I think that Trump will not debate President Biden in the debate in June. I think we will start to see the excuses really accelerate where Trump will blame the gag order. Trump will blame Justice Mershon's daughter. Who knows what they'll make up. They'll come up with something. They'll blame the stars. They'll blame whatever they'll come up with. And Trump will say it's unfair because the reality is that everything that they say about President Biden is actually what Donald Trump is going through, right? Like if you've watched the Donald Trump speeches, Donald Trump really can't put sentences together.
Starting point is 00:34:09 That's not me being hyperbolic. He really just kind of rambles, you know, in the past that we like, we'll show you the transcripts just to show you that he's just saying like a bunch of random words. You know, on the other hand, when you watch President Biden's speeches, admittedly, President Biden is older. We know that already, though. President Biden's not as quick as he was when he was the vice president to former President Obama. We know that already. But when President Biden speaks, and I could tell you this because I've interviewed President Biden. He's very deliberate in his words.
Starting point is 00:34:49 The thoughts are very coherent. They are packed with a ton of detail. He answers the question, and he speaks through the value set that Americans, that the pro-democracy community, which includes mainstream conservatives, independents, and of course, liberals and progressives, all kind of talk through. So seeing an older and slightly slower President Biden speak about democracy, about protecting social security, about supporting women's reproductive rights, about protecting our allies abroad, about protecting our veterans, about looking after our seniors, about lowering
Starting point is 00:35:32 healthcare costs, about making education more affordable and accessible. President Biden will talk about those things. Donald Trump will say things like that the January 6th insurrectionists are hostages. He'll talk about singing songs with them. He'll praise Vladimir Putin. He'll say how patriotic the January 6th insurrection was. He'll brag about overturning Roe v. Wade. Those are the things. And people who are now tuning in are going to say, wait a minute, media, didn't you tell me that Donald Trump's lawyer did an amazing cross-exam on Michael Cohen and that Donald Trump was going to get acquitted, right? It's the same reaction where people are like, whoa, didn't you tell me that? They're going to look at it and they're going to feel betrayed once again. They already
Starting point is 00:36:23 are. That's why they're cutting the cord and watching us on the Midas Touch Network. And that's what's fueled our growth. But people are then going to have this moment and say, wait a minute, corporate media set aside. I mean, Fox's extremist propaganda media, all the right-wing stuff is just ridiculous. But other corporate media, wait a minute. I thought you were saying that this was a normal race. This guy's been saying this and you've been acting like this is normal. What? And it's going to be entirely, entirely different than where we've been. That's why I don't love following, even though now the polls are showing that this conviction of Donald Trump's really negatively impacted. I don't want to follow the horse race. I just want to report on what's going on. Now, let me give you an example before we show some
Starting point is 00:37:20 of these Fox and Friends clips. People may have been receiving text messages who weren't even on any of Donald Trump's lists this week. He must have bought some text message lists or whatever, because I know a lot of people who got messages from him who were like, I don't even subscribe to any of his things. I subscribe to his things because I report on this stuff. But lots of people were forwarding this to me. They're like, whoa, like what in the world was he sending out? I go, yeah, that's just the normal stuff he sends out. In all caps, he writes, all hell just broke loose. I was convicted in a rigged trial.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I need you to read this. And then it basically begs for money. Or when he posts on his social media, The quote sentencing for not having done anything wrong will be conveniently for the fascists four days before the Republican National Convention. A radical left Soros-backed DA who ran on a platform of I will get Trump reporting to an acting local judge appointed by the Democrats who is highly conflicted will make a decision which will determine the future of our nation. The United States Supreme Court must decide. So you're calling on your right-wing extremist justices who you appointed to now get involved
Starting point is 00:38:38 in something that they have no jurisdiction over, a state law sentencing. And you're just spreading all of these lies and you're saying sentencing in quotes. And you're saying that Alvin Bragg ran on I will get Trump, which is just false. You're putting quotes on a local judge acting local judge. Look, Justice Mershon is a well-respected judge, a grand jury indicted. You were charged on 34 separate felony counts. There were seven weeks of trial, five weeks where evidence was introduced. The jury deliberated for nearly 12 hours, and they found on all 34 counts a unanimous jury of 12 people. And by the way, you all remember two things that were happening. One, all of the
Starting point is 00:39:25 MAGA influencers were saying, oh, we've got one or two jurors who love Donald Trump and they're smiling at him. We've got definitely one or two jurors. Well, that's what you were saying. So now that's changed. Also, weren't they saying throughout the trial that there were thousands of Trump supporters in New York who wanted to get to the court, but they were being blocked? Remember when they were lying about that or that they were going to flip New York City and they were going to turn it red. So I would assume that based on that logic, that most of the jury, if what you were saying was true, would be Trump supporters. Wouldn't most of the jury then be Trump supporters? So none of what they say is true. And when you realize quite literally everything they say is just an utter lie and just disgusting propaganda, then it all starts to click. And most people don't think through the framework of, wait a minute, they can't be lying about
Starting point is 00:40:16 everything. Some of it has. No, they lie about quite literally everything. They wake up, they lie. They talk, they lie. They go to sleep, they lie. It's all a lie. Like this is an example. We're Donald Trump on Fox and Friends over the weekend. By the way, you saw they took that photo before where they were all like smiling, like with their thumbs up, like they were like fan of Donald Trump. That was pretty weird. Here, Donald Trump says, I never said to lock up Hillary Clinton. That was just my supporters. And even the Fox and Friends people, the premise of their question is, you could have locked up Hillary Clinton,
Starting point is 00:40:51 but you were generous and you didn't. And now they're like, what are you even talking about? Donald Trump actually did weaponize his Justice Department and tried, but she didn't commit any crimes. She didn't, he tried to. She didn't commit any crimes. That's what happened. But believe me, he tried to. Here, play this clip. I want to follow up on what Rachel asked you, though, because I hear you struggling with it. I hear you say it's a tough question, a bit unsure. You famously said regarding Hillary said, lock her up. And I felt, and I could have done it, but I felt it would have been a terrible thing. And then this happened to me. And so I may feel differently about it. I can't tell you. I'm not sure I can answer the question.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Hillary Clinton, I didn't say lock her up, but the people would all say, lock her up, lock her up. Okay, then we won. And I say, and I said pretty openly, I say, all right, come on, just relax. Let's go. We're going to make our country great. Yeah. And it would have been think of it. You lock up the wife of a president of the United States. They want to lock you up over one hundred and thirty thousand dollars of an accounting thing.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And she perfectly and a perfectly stated accounting thing. A perfectly stated accounting. They're going to lock you up over one hundred and thirty stated accounting thing. A perfectly stated accounting. They're going to lock you up over 130,000 accounting thing. I mean, the fact that there is a major media network that just spews that filth under the guise of news is so utterly destructive. And by the way, you think Donald Trump never said lock her up, really? That it was just the people said it. Okay, well, let's take a look. Here's a clip of Donald Trump never said lock her up, really, that it was just the people said it.
Starting point is 00:42:26 OK, well, let's take a look. Here's a clip of Donald Trump from 2020. I won't even go back yet to the 2016 campaign. This is what he was saying in 2020 when she wasn't even his opponent. Here, let's play this clip. I'll tell you something, though, and it's very lock them up. You should lock them up. Lock up the Bibles. Lock up Hillary.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Lock them up. And let me show you, here's another supercut. This one's by Mediate, and they show just a number of times from 2016 to 2020. They probably could have had this last for five minutes, but here's just a short sample of Donald Trump saying to lock Hillary Clinton up. Tell you what, for what she's done, they should lock her up. She's disgraceful. It's disgraceful. So crooked Hillary, wait, crooked and you should lock her up, I'll tell you. I'll tell you something, though, and it's very, lock them up. You should lock them up. Lock up the buttons. Lock up Hillary. Okay, here's one just came out. Lock her up is right.
Starting point is 00:43:35 You know what I've been saying? I've been saying let's just beat her on November 8th. But you know what? No, no. no you know what i'm starting to agree with you all right so he clearly he's the lock like you're the locker up guy like that's that was your thing like that's your whole thing it was like your slogan so it's one this is one of those things where i don't even understand how when a trump voter hears that how they don't go what are you talking about or they they're not like, wait, what were all the things I was chanting? We were chanting together. I thought we were in this together, man. What are you ditching us again? You throwing us under the bus again. It's just
Starting point is 00:44:12 like the weirdest, weirdest, it's part of the cult mentality that you have. I also noticed in the clip in that short clip that we saw too of, uh, you know, where he says he didn't say lock her up. There's another weird edit in that clip that I noticed that's also edited. His answer comes in at a weird time, so I don't know what he was saying before that that they cut out. And additionally, if you really listen to the words that he is saying there as well,
Starting point is 00:44:37 if you were to write it out in a transcript, the whole thing is nonsense. It's like one of those rambling sentences that doesn't go anywhere, doesn't mean anything. And it just further shows like the decline of this guy and how he really cannot even get out a single coherent sentence whatsoever. And Brett, to your point, the Trump voter in the sense that they don't live in reality. That's why when you present them with facts and data, they'll try and spin any sort of narrative while using Trump as their vessel
Starting point is 00:45:05 to kind of just continue to spew hate. And so when I'm listening to Donald Trump, Brett, to your also point there, he is the lock her up guy. That's him. And so it's either one of two things. It's a severe cognitive lapse by Donald Trump, who truly doesn't remember that he said lock her up that many times, which should be disturbing to many people considering he's running for the president, or he's lying to the American people and his voters to their face, both of which should be reported on by corporate media raising their hands. Could you imagine if Biden didn't remember anything at any moment? They would pounce on him, talk about his cognitive ability. But no, for whatever reason, corporate media continues to lay off that narrative when it
Starting point is 00:45:47 comes to Trump. So it's two things. He's either lying to his voters, to their faces, because he believes they're stupid, or it's severe cognitive lapse, both of which should be reported on. Yeah, it's obviously the former. I mean, he knows he's lying. His whole life is lying. His whole life is lying and bankrupting things.
Starting point is 00:46:04 He was never a builder. He was always a lying. His whole life is lying and bankrupting things. He was never a builder. He was always a destroyer his entire life. You go through all of the businesses, all of the things that he's been involved in. Look, there are successful business people who don't have tens of thousands of lawsuits and criminal indictments and all of that. Donald Trump's the biggest liar ever, and he doesn't give a crap because where normally people would feel bad about deceiving others or you would have some sort of guilt, you would feel certain. Donald Trump doesn't. For Donald Trump, it's how does he take your money? How does he stay in power? And then there's a concomitant pathology, though, in a certain group of people that history has taught us this lesson, and it's an anomaly
Starting point is 00:46:52 why the human brain works this way. But people who are repressed sometimes identify with their repressor, the authoritarian who treats the people like crap. The people then think that that's what they deserve, especially when you pair that with the authoritarian trick of the common enemy, the Marxist, the fascist, all these people are coming for you. They want to attack you. I'm the only one who can save you. That unlocks this strange aspect in the way people think and people fall for this. I just think we were under the naive belief that here in the United States of America that we were better than that and we could avoid that. We would look at films like The Dictator with Sacha Baron Cohen and make fun of the scene
Starting point is 00:47:43 where the Sacha Baron and rolls in with like the weirdo cult here. But no, I mean, MAGA has become this way and this is what we have to deal with. And we have to take it very seriously and we have to report on what's going on. By the way, like here's Donald Trump from that Fox and Friends interview. Let's just show you the key things that he's whining about. So here he's whining about the jury and says that because the jury was from a certain persuasion, whatever he's trying to say there, that's why one of the reasons it was unfair. It was the jury's persuasion. Here, play this clip. And how can you have a witness like so-and-so? I'm not allowed to mention the name. Can you believe this? This guy's allowed to have shows, television shows. I'm not allowed to mention the
Starting point is 00:48:23 name. It's so unfair. But regardless, you know, you have to really play the hand that you're dealt. And then you had a jury that was, you know, from a certain persuasion. Would have been hard to do no matter what. But I did absolutely nothing wrong. I mean, absolutely. Think of it. I mean, just the whining.
Starting point is 00:48:42 I noticed at least three more edits within that one clip as well. This interview is edited like crazy. A ton of it. I mean, just the whining. I noticed at least three more edits within that one clip as well. This interview is edited like crazy. A ton of edits, but just the whining. There was a certain persuasion. It's so unfair. It's so like, who would just want to- Obviously a racist comment. What'd he say? I said, obviously racism, like just racism, like just a racist comment by Trump. And here he says that they should, this is part of his whining. It's so unfair. The jury's a certain persuasion. They shouldn't have allowed certain people to testify.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Here's part of his whining. Let's play this. And then they indict you and they go to a grand jury and they don't use Bob Casella's testimony. You know, they use almost none of it. They didn't want him before the grand jury because he's very persuasive. This judge didn't want him to talk. They shouldn't have allowed certain people to testify. It was totally wrong that they did that. Another edit. Bob Costello testified. He was the MAGA lawyer who Trump's lawyers didn't want to call,
Starting point is 00:49:42 who Trump made them call, who basically collapsed under cross-examination when he said, I was only trying to help Michael Cohen. I had no interest at all in trying to help Donald Trump. And then on cross-examination, Costello was shown the emails where he called Michael Cohen an a-hole and said, how can we try to help Donald Trump silence Michael Cohen? And then the prosecutor said, so I guess these emails speak for themselves, huh? And Costello went, yeah, I guess they speak for themselves. So that's Costello who testified at the criminal trial. Guess who else could have testified? You, Donald Trump. You could have testified. You said you were going to testify. You want to make an advice of counsel defense and blame your lawyers? Okay. Then say it was
Starting point is 00:50:30 your lawyer's fault. Take the stand. Wave attorney-client privilege. And you could have taken the stand. You could have called Eric. You could have called Don Jr. You could have called Keith Schiller, your bodyguard. You could have called any number of the, you could have called Allen Weisselberg, your former CFO. It's your choice. But that's just who they are. And Brett, it's not just Trump though, going on Fox and parodying this. You know, you had that guy, Todd Blanche, who's Trump's lawyer. He went on his right-wing media tour since the verdict as well. And he's saying the same things over and over again that he knows are false. As I said on Legal AF, and let me just repeat it again here, I do not fault a criminal defense lawyer for representing someone who's alleged to have
Starting point is 00:51:20 commit crimes, even very serious crimes. I draw a distinction between the function of a lawyer and their client. And so if you want to represent really bad people or people accused of bad things, even Donald Trump, I am actually okay with you doing that as a criminal defense lawyer. But that changes the moment you become an agent of Trumpism to destroy our Constitution and to rip apart our judiciary and cast doubt on our judicial system and then just lie about it. At that point, you lose all respect and it's fair game because you're no longer acting as a defense lawyer.
Starting point is 00:52:00 You're acting as an agent to try to destroy our judicial system. And when Todd Blanche went on CNN, he was asked, so why didn't you call some of these witnesses? Like you could have called witnesses, right? And you'll see Todd Blanche's response is, nope, this is America. We can't call witnesses. The prosecution has to call all of the witnesses. We're not allowed to, which is just 100% false. Here, let's show you that clip. When he was leaving, one thing he brought up were the witnesses who were not called. And he was saying that there could have been witnesses that would have helped make the case. We never saw Keith Schiller, Allen Weisselberg, some key figures here who got brought up a lot. Why didn't the defense call any of these witnesses? Well, because we happen to live in America and
Starting point is 00:52:45 we don't have the burden of proof. And so there's not, that's not the point. That's a question that is a loaded question that should not be asked of a defense attorney or a defendant. The question that we asked the jury and they ultimately obviously got passed is why the prosecution didn't call those witnesses, right? As a defense attorney, you don't go into a case saying, I'm going to fill the holes of the prosecution, right? And Keith Schiller and some of the other witnesses that were not ultimately called, in our view, should have been called by the prosecution. And we asked the jury to take a hard look at that. I don't know whether they did or not, but they convicted. on a unanimous basis. When they meet their burden, yeah, it's not your job to fill in the holes,
Starting point is 00:53:47 but quite literally your job as a criminal defense lawyer is to try to persuade the jury that there is reasonable doubt. One of the ways you would do that is if you had evidence, you would call people who you think would be helpful to your case. Like the fact that I even have to explain this concept right now is wild to me. That is quite literally the role of a criminal defense lawyer. And so you don't have to, you're under no obligation to call any witnesses, but if you had witnesses who you believe would help you cause the jury to feel doubt, then why wouldn't you bring them in? Because obviously you thought those witnesses were going to hurt you. You know what he's also under no obligation to do, Ben?
Starting point is 00:54:40 He's under no obligation to go on TV and speak to the press like this also. And there's nothing wrong with going on TV and speaking to the press. But when you're going to use the press in order to spread more lies about our judicial system, spread more lies about our institution, I think that speaks really poorly to you as a member of the bar. I think that speaks really poorly to you as a member of the legal profession. By the way, I hope there are consequences for the actions of attorneys like this, like the record of all these past Trump attorneys who have also done things like this. You had Todd Blanch also – I'm not going to play this one. But you had Todd Blanch also going – that was a CNN interview. But he also went on Fox, and he was also spreading that whole lie. If we go to the Supreme Court first, we're going to go to the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Like he knows he can't do that. He knows damn well he can't do that. So who does he think he is going on Fox to spread this propaganda? It's just the height of irresponsibility for a licensed attorney to do. And that is the part, to your point, Ben, that bothers me. It's not that he's representing Donald Trump. Yeah, I've never said a bad thing about Susan Necklace on the show. She represents Donald Trump. She's not going on TV saying stupid stuff like this. She's being a professional attorney. Todd Blanch, however, quite the opposite. Look, Donald Trump's sentencing is now scheduled for July 11th. Donald Trump has to
Starting point is 00:55:57 give an interview with a probation officer. As a convicted felon, Donald Trump is banned from owning a firearm. Donald Trump, but nonetheless, the Republicans want him to run the military, but he can't own his own firearm. He also can't travel to dozens of countries as a result of being a convicted felon. There's lots of other restrictions as well. Look look, Justice Mershon's a law and order judge. There's going to be some form of prison sentence. Now, I hope it's actually serving time in Rikers, but I think at the very least it will be home confinement. But Justice Mershon is not just going to give him, in my opinion, a slap on the wrist. Donald Trump has been found in contempt over 10 times in this
Starting point is 00:56:46 case for violating the gag order. And the prosecution is going to bring up Donald Trump's behavior from when the case was before it was even brought to the grand jury and before the indictment was even secured. And right after the day, remember when Donald Trump posted that photo of himself with the baseball bat and he posted a side-by-side of him with the baseball bat and Alvin Bragg's head like he was going to bludgeon out. All this stuff is going to be part of the sentencing memorandum. Also, as part of the sentencing, the prosecution is going to bring up that Donald Trump has been found liable for sexual assault, that Donald Trump has been charged by multiple other grand juries across the country.
Starting point is 00:57:26 They're going to bring up that the Trump Organization was found guilty in another New York trial that people don't even really talk about. But the Trump Organization is a felony organization for tax fraud, all of that stuff. And then one of the other factors is, is there remorse? Is there an acknowled acknowledgement of guilt? And all of Donald Trump's statements attacking the judge and the judge's daughter. Attacking the jury, all the other gag violations. He thinks it could be too cute by half by going like, and there's a guy who was a witness who I'm not allowed to mention him by name, but he's a sleazebag and he's allowed to do podcasts. That sleazebag, like that's, you can't get around the gag order by
Starting point is 00:58:05 doing that. And I'm sure this is all going to be taken into consideration. And Trump has done this in every trial, by the way. I am sure that if he behaved himself during the E. Jean Carroll trial, showed some contrition, said, oh, that was a horrible thing for me to say. Could you even imagine this coming out of his mouth? It's like laughable, right? This was a horrible thing for me to say. Could you even imagine this coming out of his mouth? It's like laughable, right? This was a horrible thing for me to say. I really shouldn't have done it. I don't know what I was thinking. I was caught up in the height of the campaign. Listen, I'm sorry. I apologize. I take responsibility. Do you think he would have been hit with the verdict in that case, the amount of money that he has to pay if he didn't also attack the jury in those cases
Starting point is 00:58:42 the same? Do you think he would have the same result? No. And the same thing is going to happen here when sentencing happens because he's doing the same things that have led him to severe consequences in the other case. However, the game is totally different on this one because he can't just get his little bond to get out of this and to stay out of a jail sentence. He actually can be sentenced to Rikers here. He could be sentenced to actual hard time, and he is walking himself right into it. The way he runs his life, the way he runs his organizations, the criminality, the abuse, the incompetence, the sleepiness, the strangeness, that's how he wants to run our country. That's how he ran our country for four years. That's how he wants to run our country. That's how he ran our country for four years. That's how he mishandled COVID. That's how he mishandled our debt. And he wants to come in the smartest guy in the room. He surrounds himselfine about the way the media is treating him or
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Starting point is 01:04:51 No more tacky Takapina. I think it's tactful Takapina. He seems to win the award for the most responsible Trump lawyer in 2024. He represented Donald Trump in the first E. Jean Carroll defamation trial where Trump was hit with the $5 million verdict. He withdrew, so he was never affiliated with the second E. Jean Carroll trial, which Alina Haba ran, where Donald Trump was hit when you had pre- and post-judgment interest with a $90 million verdict. And Takapina was representing Donald Trump in the Manhattan falsification of business trial. And Takapina, after the E. Jean Carroll trial, just had enough of Donald Trump. Maybe he wasn't paid what he should have been paid, which would not be surprising, or just otherwise had a change of heart after Donald Trump continued to just
Starting point is 01:05:47 embarrass and humiliate and destroy Takapina's reputation because Takapina was always known as a fairly normal guy, good lawyer. And so it was very surprising. I just think he was one of these people who thought that he'd be able to like actually get through to Donald Trump and represent him in the case and show what a good lawyer he was. And obviously that didn't happen. Um, nor could that ever possibly happen. You know, Donald Trump's, uh, whole thing is he will just destroy your reputation, um, destroy your life. Like that's what Don, this is what Donald Trump does. Anyway, here's Joe Takapina over the weekend. He's friends with Al Sharpton. That's why he breaks these exclusives with Sharpton.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And here's what he said about Donald Trump's claim that the trial was rigged and how false that is for Trump and Trump's lawyers and others in the MAGA world to say that it was rigged. Here, let's play this clip. They might have a spring today, but it's not going to last very long because what happened in New York is a travesty of justice. Everybody knows it. I can't believe the hoax, this sham, this absolute injustice, justice system, weaponizing the justice system of the United States of America against a political opponent, un-American. Joe Biden, you're fired. I do believe the Supreme Court should step in.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Obviously, this is totally unprecedented and it's dangerous to our system. This will be overturned, guys. There's no question about it. It's just going to take some time. What are your thoughts on what you just heard, Joe? And as I mentioned, they're just a few of the many of the Republicans. Yeah, what I hear, like Tim Scott is someone I used to respect, but I sort of lost a lot of respect from what I just heard because he sounded so uneducated, unintelligent and made no sense at all to say that, look, I understand there's a political motivation
Starting point is 01:07:44 to a lot of what's going on in our country today. And everyone wants to sort of paint the broad brush and, you know, this is a political vendetta and weaponization of the justice system. This is a state case. This is different than the Jack Smith cases. OK, this is not a federal prosecution. Joe Biden or anyone from his Justice Department have absolutely zero to do with the Manhattan District Attorney's Office. They have no jurisdiction over him. They have no contacts with him. They have no control, certainly, over him. So to say that Joe Biden brought this case is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard.
Starting point is 01:08:17 We know that's not the case. And even even Trump's lawyers know that's not the case. Because as you say, even Trump's lawyers know that's the case. You are an attorney with Trump. You were on Trump's case early and got off the case. So you would you're speaking as one that knew as you signed in to work for Trump, which you explained on this show. Why? And you explain why you got out that this had nothing to do with Joe Biden or any of the federal government trying to lean in on Donald Trump. The federal government has no input on the Manhattan district. That's Donald Trump's former lawyer right there on this specific case, saying that Donald Trump and all these MAGA Republicans and Trump's current lawyers are just absolutely lying. I mean, and it's obvious that they're lying, but to hear it from someone as close to Donald
Starting point is 01:09:12 Trump on this specific case, I think is important. But we can say Donald Trump's former chief of staff. We could say Donald Trump's former national security advisor. We could say Donald Trump's former defense secretary. We could say Donald Trump's former defense secretary. We could say Donald Trump's former attorney general. You could say Donald Trump's former secretary of state. You could say the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. You could say multiple of former Donald Trump's generals. You can go through the list of multiple people, hundreds of people at the highest levels who have worked for Donald Trump, who say, do not ever let this person get near power again. We worked for him. We were as close
Starting point is 01:09:56 to him as anybody. Red flag, he's a menace and he is dangerous. Just imagine for a moment if you worked at a law firm or an accounting firm or wherever, and everybody who worked for the partner said, that partner is horrible. The worst- Think about references, right? Who you put down as your references. So picture a business calling your references and one by one, okay, this person worked really closely with you. Let me, let me call your, your partner at the, at the firm. No, he's, he's terrible. He's, he's, he would, he almost destroyed our company completely. If you hire him, he'd destroy your company. Oh, okay. Well, maybe that one was a fluke. Let's try, uh, you know, one of the other executives who, who, who worked with him at the company, I guess.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Yeah. Uh, so I got this employee here and he, oh no, no, that guy is a threat. Like you just start hearing that over and over and over again. You got to at some point put it together. Right. The one thing I noticed Ben too, and Jordi, when people who work for Trump, don't they like when they're working for Trump, they look like possessed. And when they're done working for Trump, they have like a lightness about them, right? Like Takapina in that interview looks like a different person than Takapina when he was actually representing Donald Trump. And I put together this photo here of Takapina while he was repping Trump. I mean, you can see the vein like popping out of his head in this picture and
Starting point is 01:11:19 whatever the heck is happening with his doll and the leg behind him. I don't even know what the heck is happening there. But this was during a press conference with Todd Blanche when he was defending the infamous baseball bat picture. That's when this photo was taken. And you could see on the right, Todd Blanche next to Donald Trump at the trial, just standing there. I think Ben described him as Brick. He looks like Brick Tamblyn from Anchorman, just standing there, the Steve Carell character in Anchorman. And he definitely – I mean, he does. But you see the soullessness of these people when they're in this Trump cult. And when they're out of it, you do see this – it's as if they were bitten by a vampire and then got the antidote.
Starting point is 01:12:02 And you're like, whoa, this is weird. What happened to the other guy that we saw? It's a weird thing when they get pulled into this Trump cult. And when they get out though, oftentimes they seem so much freer. And I don't understand the lure of going into that cult and having to just debase yourself like that. You know, I think it's money that really just brings, or the perception that they're going to get some sort of fame and money from aligning themselves closely with Donald Trump, which we all know in many instances is not true at all. Couldn't
Starting point is 01:12:36 actually be further from the truth. And I say this all the time when we hear Kevin McCarthy speak and defend Trump. It's like his soul is genuinely leaving his body. And I think why these people, not Kevin McCarthy, but like a taco pina, for example, looks so much better now that he's distanced himself from Trump. It's because at the end of the day, most people have a conscience and it hurts people to lie and be so evil daily and defend such an awful human being that is Donald Trump in an effort to, I don't know, get fame and get money or the perception of that, that that will come. And so once they're finally able to step back and be like, oh, I'm just going to spit and talk reality and facts to the American people, life becomes much easier when you don't have
Starting point is 01:13:17 to hide behind lies and just spreading rumors and just vicious attacks on people when you could actually just speak the truth. You know, a good sign, though, that the current realities are starting to break through is when you start to hear important, accurate, data-driven conversations in other areas outside of politics. That's always one of the indicators to me that we're really in an election season. And obviously we know that here, but that the American people are starting to like really recognize it and focus on it. So, you know, Colin Coward and Brett, you want to talk about who Colin Coward is and what he said. But, you know,. But a sports commentator who's not a liberal guy by any means. And he spoke out this weekend and it was a viral moment. Why don't you talk about
Starting point is 01:14:17 that, Brett? Because I think it's important. I think it's important to know too that Colin's no liberal. Yeah, no, a hundred percent. I mean mean, Colin Coward, he's a sports commentator. He has a show called The Herd, which is a very popular sports show. I think he's on what, Jordy? Fox Sports, ESPN Radio. Yeah, no, he's on Fox Sports, FS1. Yeah, he's on quite a bit. A lot of people listen to Colin. And I remember because it was controversial when he had one of his bad hot takes in advance of the 2022 election, that he thought there was going to be this red wave. And he had made a very kind of strong statement about that back then. And so to see him kind of wake up to this reality is a big deal.
Starting point is 01:14:56 And to see him saying this to an audience that's primarily there to hear updates about sports, you know, I think is, it's especially powerful, I think, when certain things come from certain messengers. So here's what Colin Coward said. And I thought this was just absolutely spot on. And it's quite frankly echoes something that I've been saying and that I feel like we've been saying to each other, whether on the show or off the show. And I'll read Colin's statement here. Colin said about Trump, Trump's trying to sell me an America that doesn't exist. I don't see crime. I'm not stumbling over homeless people. I see happy people. Dodger Stadium is full. Leads Major League Baseball in attendance. Laker games are full. NFL games are full. People have money in their pocket. LAX is packed. I saw a record airline revenue over the
Starting point is 01:15:39 weekend. I'm constantly being sold in America by Donald Trump of crime rates are skyrocketing. No, they're actually not. Starting in 2023, they plummeted coast to coast. You can't keep selling me on how bad the country I live in is because it's not bad for me and my friends. Donald Trump is now a felon. His campaign chairman was a felon. So is his deputy campaign manager, his personal lawyer, his chief strategist, his national security advisor, his trade advisor, his foreign policy advisor, his campaign fixer, and his company CFO. They're all felons judged by the company you keep. It's a cabal of felons. If everyone in your social circle is a felon, I don't think it's rigged. I don't think the world's against you. And to get people to agree on anything, 34 counts,
Starting point is 01:16:19 zero for 34, that's a batting slump even the New York Mets could be impressed with. O for 34, when you're constantly trying to sell me on an America that I don't see, Trump's entire game plan is the country is in a free fall. Well, maybe in the Trump-centric neighborhoods it is. I don't think the Mets had to catch Stray's. That's called a stray. But his point is an astute point. And it's something that I've been saying constantly. And quite frankly, it's something that inadvertently Donald Trump has also been showing everybody because Trump's the whole thing is Trump goes to all these venues that are packed with people. Donald Trump goes to the NASCAR event. That's packed with a bunch
Starting point is 01:17:02 of happy people. Donald Trump goes to the UFC event. That's packed with a bunch of happy people. Donald Trump goes to the UFC event. That's packed with a bunch of happy people. What a contrast, right? What a contrast to four years ago. Because you know what people were doing four years ago? They were hoping they didn't die. They were locked in their houses, watching their family and friends die, hoping that they weren't next, struggling to buy food, struggling to find toilet paper, couldn't do a damn thing. And so the contrast could not be clearer when you actually have Donald Trump going out into these venues that are doing so great now, thanks to President Biden, quite frankly. He's showing that off to everybody. And I think that's an important point. And it's something that I felt too. I went to a Dodgers
Starting point is 01:17:40 game recently. It was packed. Everyone was enjoying themselves. Everyone was having the time of their life at the Dodgers. Dodgers got rocked. They got destroyed at the game. That was unfortunate. But people were having a good time. Ben and I went to a basketball game a couple months back. It was fun. People were having fun. They were cheering. People weren't focused on Twitter. They weren't focused on the doom and gloom. They were having a good time. And it's not to say that everything in the country is perfect. It's not to say that everything is perfect. For sure, there's a lot of stuff to do, right? There's a lot of progress to be made. But you have to acknowledge the realities when you're seeing companies with record revenue, when you see people with more consumer confidence, when you see wages
Starting point is 01:18:18 increasing, beating inflation, right? That's what you want. When you see America be the number one in GDP growth, number one in GDP growth, number one in wage growth, these are all very positive things. And so the fact that Colin Coward is saying this to his audience, hopefully he's waken some other people up who may not be as in tune with politics and may quite frankly be buying Donald Trump's spin because we've talked about the spin before. And we've talked about Donald Trump and the Republican Party's plan. It's to make you miserable and not just to make you miserable, it's to make you miserable and their own followers miserable so that he could say, I'm the only one who could fix these problems. It becomes a lot harder when things are pretty good to say that you need someone to come in and fix these problems.
Starting point is 01:18:58 So what do you do? You lie about the reality. You make it up. You say, actually, no, don't believe your eyes and ears. Everything sucks. You think you're having fun right now? Nope. You make it up. You say, actually, no, don't believe your eyes and ears. Everything sucks. You think you're having fun right now? Nope. You're horrible. You're having a horrible time. Everything's terrible. But I could fix it.
Starting point is 01:19:12 I could fix it. That's Donald Trump's strategy. That's what he's trying to do. And what else do they do? They try to distract with these. We just had this entire week, and they're still going on about this politically motivated investigation, politically motivated investigation, politically motivated prosecution. It's all politics. They're all grandstanding.
Starting point is 01:19:29 And so what do the Republicans do today? They hold a hearing with Dr. Fauci so they could threaten to throw him in prison, like do an actual kangaroo court in Congress, just absolutely disgrace themselves in one of the most shameful displays that you have ever witnessed. Just torturing this guy who has already been a victim of so much hate at their hands because of their lies, because of their propaganda. So Ben did a whole hot take on this, so I'm not going to play a bajillion clips on this, but I do want to show you some of the lowlights and maybe some other actual positive moments from it. Here was a moment where Representative Maliotakis,
Starting point is 01:20:11 Republican representative, tried to corner Dr. Fauci. You're making all this money off the pharmaceutical industry, aren't you? How much money? How much money? Fauci goes, nothing. I appreciate that. Dr. Fauci, how much have you earned from royalties from pharmaceutical companies since the pandemic began in 2021? Zero. It says NIH scientists made $710 million in royalties from drug makers. You're saying that you did not receive any of the $710 million? On COVID, I received, I think, $122 for a monoclonal antibody that I made 27 years ago. Okay, so just in general, though, how much have you received, not related to COVID, just in general, how much have you received in royalties between 2021 and 2023?
Starting point is 01:21:02 I think none. Okay, so somebody received the $710 million. Somebody did, but not me. You didn't receive any royalties. Okay. I see no royalties associated with COVID. I mentioned. I said.
Starting point is 01:21:14 I'm on the record and I want to make sure that this is clear that I've developed a monoclonal antibody about 25 years ago that's used as a diagnostic that has nothing to do with COVID. And I receive an average of about $120 a year from that. And you have Marjorie Taylor Greene threatening to imprison Dr. Fauci. You know what this committee should be doing? We should be recommending you to be prosecuted. We should be writing a criminal referral because you should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. You belong in prison, Dr. Fauci. Marjorie Taylor Greene says she actually refuses to call Dr. Fauci a doctor. She will not call Dr. Fauci a doctor anymore. Do you think that's appropriate? Do the American people deserve to be abused like that,
Starting point is 01:22:03 Mr. Fauci? Because you're not doctor, You're Mr. Fauci in my few minutes. No, I don't need your answer. I want to talk about this right here. Mr. Fauci, I reclaim my time. I reclaim my time. I reclaim my time, Mr. Raskin. And a lady will suspend. Mr. Chairman, just in terms of the rules of decorum, are we allowed to deny that a doctor is a doctor just because we don't want him to be a doctor? Yes, because in my time, that man does not deserve to have a license. As a matter of fact, it should be revoked and he belongs in prison. The gentlelady should recognize the doctor as a doctor. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is this what we have become? Is this what we have devolved into?
Starting point is 01:22:50 And finally, I'll show you Representative Jamie Raskin, who made a very funny point about how they're treating Dr. Fauci as a criminal and the hypocrisy of that. I want to join my colleague from Florida in apologizing to you that some of our colleagues in the United States House of Representatives seem to want to drag your name through the mud. They're treating you, Dr. Fauci, like a convicted felon. Actually, you probably wish they were treating you like a convicted felon. They treat convicted felons with love and admiration. Some of them blindly worship convicted felons. It's such a good dig. And it just shows you the depths of depravity of these Republicans that they would bring in Dr. Fauci just to yell things like that at him, just to further spread their conspiracy theories. Why? Because he was like the one guy who was actually trying to help during
Starting point is 01:23:43 the worst pandemic of our lifetimes. That's why they're going after this guy. And like, I want to remind all, even the MAGA supporters, if you're a MAGA supporter that somehow stumbled upon this stream somehow, and you're trolling in the comments, let me remind you that on Donald Trump's final day in office, his last day in office, he awarded Dr. Fauci with a presidential commendation. So what's your excuse for that? How could you be so angry at Dr. Fauci, say he deserves prison, when your cult leader gave him one of the highest presidential awards the day, made sure he did it the day before that he, I would say, left office, the day before he unwillingly left office,
Starting point is 01:24:26 I will say. I mean, the hypocrisy is just absolutely boundless with these MAGA Republicans. But let me also show this too, because let's go back in history for a little bit. I want to show you George H.W. Bush and his comments about a younger Dr. Fauci back then. And this will just show you how far the Republican Party has fallen. People that are clean and honorable and out there setting a pace. I think a Dr. Fauci, probably never heard of him. You did, Ann heard him. He's a very fine research top doctor at National Institute of Health, working hard doing something about research on this disease of AIDS. go after Republicans at these hearings today because they're Republicans. We don't go after
Starting point is 01:25:25 them because of any sort of political bias that we have. Our bias here is towards the truth. Our bias here is towards trying to get back to a place of normalcy. Our bias is not buying in to the cultish nature of this Republican Party, of MAGA, and of much of the media. And here's the perfect example of that, right? Very contentious Senate battle coming up this November, where the Republicans are favored. There are some seats that are very important for both parties to try to get in order to either keep the Senate or to win over the Senate. And one of those seats is Larry Hogan in Maryland. But guess what? Larry Hogan, he said that people should respect the process of the courts and should respect the jury and respect the legal system. So what does that mean to RNC chair, Lara Trump? Can't support him anymore.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Republican Senate candidate, Larry Hogan in Maryland. And again, I'm asking this in your capacity as one of the co-chairs of the entire Republican Party. And he's a popular former governor in Maryland. He wrote this ahead right ahead of the verdict. He said, quote, Regardless of the result, I urge all Americans to respect the verdict and the legal process. That is not the Republican Party line at the moment. And in fact, he was attacked by the top Trump adviser, Chris LaCivita, who wrote that he, quote, just ended your campaign and quote, does the Republican National Committee support Larry Hogan for Senate? Well, I I'll tell you one thing, I don't support what he just said there. I think it's ridiculous. And I think anybody who's not speaking up in the face of of really something that should never again have seen the light of day a trial that would never have been brought against any other person aside from Donald Trump. But does the RNC support
Starting point is 01:27:09 his bid? He doesn't deserve the respect of anyone. He doesn't deserve the respect of anyone? He doesn't deserve the respect of anyone in the Republican Party at this point. And quite frankly, anybody in America, if that's the way you feel, that's very upsetting to hear that. So are you willing to cede the Senate seat in Maryland to the Democratic Party and not support Larry Hogan? What I'll tell you is that we, of course, want to win as a party, but that is a shame. And I think he should have thought long and hard before he said that publicly. Do you are you willing to use Republican Party resources to support his bid or not? It sounds like you're saying you're not. Well, I'll get back to you on all the specifics monetarily. But what I can tell you is that as the Republican Party co-chair, I think you should never have said something like that.
Starting point is 01:27:54 I think that's ridiculous. Bold strategy, Lara. Let's see how it works out for them this November. And you're muted. Ben, you're muted for a sec if you want to. Oh, I was just saying that Larry Hogan just simply said, respect the jury process. Yeah, that's all he said. You would think he would say something like, I don't know. He literally just said, we should respect our process and our judicial system. Yeah, he didn't even say, not selling that convict. He didn't even do that.
Starting point is 01:28:21 According to Larry, nobody in America should support someone who says respect, respect the rule of law. Nobody. So interesting take there from Lara. I just got, Lara is really meeting the moment. She does not disappoint. I am, go Lara, go, as Jamie Harrison would say. quote unquote law and order party. They tweet law and order all they want, but clearly all law and order means is their ability to commit crimes with impunity and to try to actually punish their political enemies. But let me show you an actual law and order individual. That law and order individual is President Biden. And these are the comments that he delivered on the verdict after Donald Trump was convicted of 34 felonies. That's how the American system of justice works. And it's reckless. It's dangerous. It's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict. Our justice system has endured for nearly 250 years. And it literally is the cornerstone of America, our justice system. The justice system should be respected.
Starting point is 01:29:33 And we should never allow anyone to tear it down. It's as simple as that. That's America. That's who we are. And that's who we'll always be, God willing. Powerful. Powerful, powerful stuff. Brett, I want to read what Anthony Scaramucci wrote a little bit earlier, because I think it's a good way to sum this all up. He goes, President Biden is ahead in the latest polls and has a comfortable lead with likely voters. Whatever his weaknesses may be, Joe Biden is an American hero. He spared
Starting point is 01:30:08 the country from the dangers of Donald Trump's second term, and he is going to stop him again in November. The GOP still has a chance to fix this, but they lack courage. They also allowed Trump and his family to hijack the RNC. Now, Anthony Scaramucci is on that list of people who used to work for Donald Trump. This was Donald Trump's former press secretary. Yes, he only lasted for one Scaramucci, but he saw what was going on there and just couldn't be a part of it, couldn't deal with it once he saw what was really happening. And that's coming from a Trump insider right there who now knows the threat and danger Trump poses to our democracy. I don't love talking about polls or really even like talking about the polls. It's worth mentioning though that at least since the verdict was handed down,
Starting point is 01:31:01 a lot of independents and even Republicans moving away from Donald Trump and President Biden leading in some of the latest aggregate of the polls. But I don't want to focus on that. I want to focus on what's going on in our country. I want to focus on policy. I want to focus on data. I want to focus on information. I want to remind everybody to make sure that y'all are registered to vote. I want to focus on things like the price of crude oil per barrel is down significantly now. And OPEC's attempt to try to artificially raise prices was outmaneuvered by President Biden.
Starting point is 01:31:42 And now the price per barrel of crude is falling rather dramatically. That's good news heading into the summer. How the CHIPS Act that President Biden pushed through the House of Representatives is attracting massive amounts of investments, and the U.S. is now on pace to add more investment in electronics manufacturing construction this year alone, as it did in total from 1996 to 2020. That's a renaissance of the semiconductor industry here and actually bringing jobs to America. You know, Donald Trump's words, when they're not criminal, are worthless.
Starting point is 01:32:22 So his words are either criminal or worthless. He'll make promises and lies and fraud. It doesn't matter. He just spews a bunch of nonsense. You have to actually look at people's actions. You have to look at their record. President Biden's willing to have those tough conversations. He's willing to say things and do things knowing that it may not be politically expedient for him. But you have to appreciate, regardless of if you disagree with him, that he's guided by a set of values and principles that have a level of predictability that's important, that are grounded in normalcy, and that he surrounds himself with the smartest people and the brightest people he puts in the room. And he's open to a lot of different viewpoints.
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