The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump Throws Noem Under the Bus in Contempt Hearing

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump throwing DHS Secretary Kristi Noem under the bus in a new filing where she may now face criminal contempt charges have Trump’s DOJ identified her as the person responsible for the possible unlawful conduct.  Go to https://shopremi.com/MEIDAS and use code MEIDAS  at checkout for 55% off a new night guard plus a FREE foam gift that whitens your teeth and cleans your nightguard. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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to respond by yesterday evening from Judge Jeb Bosberg, who has reinitiated criminal contempt proceedings against the Trump regime officials who could later be identified as being responsible for defying the judge's orders several months back when the judge made the order. do not send these migrants to the concentration camp in El Salvador without providing them due process. The court issued an injunction. The injunction was transmitted to the DOJ, who transmitted it to the Department of Homeland Security.

But the Department of Homeland Security, while they could have turned around the flight of the 100-plus migrants who were being sent to Seacot, which is called a terrorist detention center in El Salvador, but it's really a concentration camp there. The DHS said, damn the order, basically F the order, go to Seacot and bring these migrants there. Those migrants went there.

They were tortured. They had their lives destroyed and ruined before ultimately we saw Brago Garcia. His return got facilitated. And then the regime had to unwind the fact that they sent these migrants unlawfully. to concentration camps in El Salvador. So what do I mean that the DOJ threw Christy Knoem under the bus? The judge said, identify the final decision maker who made that order. And the Department of Justice put forward a response to the court's order,

and they say, after receiving legal advice, Secretary Nome directed that the detainees, who had been removed from the United States before the court's order, could be transferred to the custody of El Salvador. As explained below, they say the decision was lawful and was consistent with a reasonable interpretation of the court's order. That's on paragraph 4 where they say, Christy Noem did it.

Let's go to paragraph 10. It says, nevertheless, insofar as the court has inquired into the identities of the decision-making officials for purposes of making a potential criminal referral, the actions were taken by DHS through Secretary Nome after being formally advised about compliance with this court's order both by the DOJ leadership

and the acting general counsel of the DHS, Department of Homeland Security. In other words, the DOJ, and you see their lawyers here, Brett Shumate, Drew Inson, and others, they're saying, called Christine Ome about the court's order, saying turn around that plane, turn it around now, bring the migrants back, and then we can deal with it. Don't send them to the concentration camp.

The DOJ said, we told Christine Ome. Christine Ome sought the legal advice from the DOJ, but ultimately she was the one who made the determination send the people to the concentration camp. You take a look right here. It's defendant's response to court order, and they admit the. court, the federal judge, Judge Bozberg, directed the parties to propose next steps for its inquiry into potential for criminal contempt. Defendants respectfully submit that no further steps are warranted. They go, though, insofar as this court disagrees with our interpretation of the law,

defendants identify below officials who made and advised on the decision not to recall the flights in transit and instead to transfer detention. out of the U.S. custody on March 15th and 16, 2025, which is the only remaining information necessary for this court to proceed with a referral. If the court believes any further information is needed for that purpose, defendants respectfully request an opportunity to provide that information. One of the things that they also say in this motion is that they say they don't want to put Christy Gnome in front of the court for live testimony. Look at paragraph 11.

The DOJ claims no live testimony is warranted at this time. They say, let us provide a declaration of Christy Gnome. Let's do this by declaration, Judge. She doesn't want to come in to testify. She's too scared to show up and testify after the DOJ throws her under the bus and say, it was Noem who ultimately made that call to violate your order, Judge. Then you go to paragraph 12, and they say defendants object to the involvement of the plaintiffs in this case because they say this no longer involves the original litigants because the issue of criminal contempt involves the dignity of the court.

And they say plaintiffs lack standing to participate as anything other than fact witnesses. They are afraid that the plaintiffs have done such a good job in cornering these rats. these fascists, these despicable humans, like Christy Noem, that they're like, we don't want to deal with any more, Judge. It's just you, criminal contempt. It's up to you. You're the one who makes that call. Now, I want to make this point as well before going on more about Christy Noem,

who the DOJ and Trump says, she did it. If anyone's responsible for criminal contempt, basically go after Christenome, not the DOJ. Do you see what they did right there? Or they go, look, we think that what she did was lawful. If you think it's unlawful, it's her. It is not us. But when they say they want to submit declarations,

we also know that the DOJ has a pattern in practice of submitting false declarations or declarations from people who don't know anything about the case. And where do we know that from? Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia, who was one of the individuals who was unlawfully sent to El Salvador in the concentration.

camp there. Now, Abrago Garcia was returned to the United States where he was where he was faced criminal charges in the Middle District of Tennessee based on some fabricated ginned up claim that he was trafficking other migrants when he was pulled over for a traffic stop like four years ago and he wasn't even arrested. So that's what they charged him for. But they don't even want to go through with the criminal case. instead they want to deport him now to Africa they've tried to deport him to Uganda Eswatini Ghana and now Liberia and there are separate proceedings of deporting him in a court in the district court in Maryland before a judge by the name of Judge Zinnis that's a separate

proceeding than the case that's the criminal case against Abrago in the middle district of Tennessee now as I've said let's use common sense right here. If the DOJ thought Abrago is a really bad guy and they have all this evidence, why wouldn't you want to criminally prosecute him, throw him in jail, throw him in prison, the same way El Chapo is and the way America used to deal with it? Why separately are you trying to get rid of him to these African nations like Eswatini and Ghana and Liberia? You just want to send him there where maybe you could just make him disappear and he wakes up one day and there are people there with the gun and they just kill them.

Maybe that's what you're trying to actually, you know, pull off. But one of the things we've learned in the Abrago Garcia case to is that Costa Rica and their leadership has always said they're willing to take Abrago Garcia. But the DOJ submitted a false declaration from a DHS person, also with Christenome and an ICE person as well, an ICE director of enforcement named Jose Cantu. and Jose Cantu put forward a declaration saying that he's aware that Costa Rica said

they're refusing to take Abrago Garcia. But then the Washington Post reached out to Costa Rica and they said, we never said that. We are perfectly fine with having a Brego. In fact, we want Abrago. Send him to Costa Rica. At which point, the federal judge in Maryland, Judge Zinnis said, bring Jose Cantu in. Let's have Cantu testify. and he better be prepared to tell us what he meant in his declaration

when he said Costa Rica would not accept Abrago when we know that Costa Rica would accept Abrago. So Jose Cantu shows up and he goes, I didn't even draft my declaration. Judge Zinnis goes, you didn't draft your declaration? He goes, no, the DOJ wrote it for me and I just signed my name to it. I was on a Microsoft Teams call for about five minutes They just told me what to sign

And I signed to which Judge Zinnis said This was the worst witness that I've ever seen That literally the worst she goes He knew nothing He didn't know any of the words That were on that piece of paper Judge Zinnis says

And guess who was coordinating that As well Christy Gnome who oversees DHS which oversees ICE and Border Patrol It all goes back to Christy Nome So you can't trust any of the declarations that are submitted. That's why, Badego, we want to do it by declaration.

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I mean, she's a horrible, despicable individual. Do you remember when after this went down, especially knowing what she did now, that she was the direct one responsible for violating the court's order? Remember she went in front of those cages at the concentration camp, and then she used some of the prisoners there,

not the group that was sent from the United States, but she used the prisoners as props while wearing her like $50,000 or $60,000 Rolex. She just stood there in front of the prisoners, used them as props, which by the way is a violation of international law to use prisoners as props and propaganda. What a despic-these are such despicable people, these Trump regime. Here, play this clip.

I also want everybody to know, if you come to our country illegally, this is one of the consequences you could face. First of all, do not come to our country illegally. you will be removed and you will be prosecuted. But know that this facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use. And does it shock you that Christy Noem is at the center of this as well? She'll do anything that Donald Trump wants.

She is a sicko. I mean, do you remember when Senator Padilla showed up at a press conference back in June in order to ask a question of Christenome? And then she had the ICE and Border Patrol agents brutal. a sitting United States Senator and throw him to the ground. And then she played the victim like, oh, he was attacking me. It was attacking me. Here, play this clip.

I want to say, thank you, I'm exaggerating, every single portion that have been able to do this. Hands up, hands up. Also, I want to talk specifically. I have questions for the secretary because the fact of the matter is a half a dozen violent criminals that you're rotating on your. I also want to talk about specifically. Now, it's on your back. Hands on your back. Lay it up, if you're on my hand, go, I put it behind my back.

All right, right, cool. Hang on my hand, lay flat, lay flat. Other hand, sir? Other hand. There was no recording loud on here. And this is where, you know, she, she's like, he was attacking me. Here she is here, giving an interview. no idea he was a senator and he started to go he went after me so i had to protect myself yeah a real

sociopath this one a real sociopath she would fit in perfectly well in nazi germany don't you think here play this clip it was very productive and i i wish that um he would have reached out and identified himself and let us know who he was and that he wanted to talk his approach um you know was something that i don't think was appropriate at all um but the conversation was great and we're going to continue to communicate. We exchanged phone numbers and we're going to continue to talk on ways we can... Why did you detain him? Why was that the action you decided to take? I'll let the law enforcement speak to how this was situation was handled, but I will say that it's people need to identify themselves before they start lunging at people that

during press conferences. Is it appropriate? But when he said he was said... Important to point out in the video of his apprehension, he says out loud, I'm Senator Alex Padilla. I'm allowed to be here. So he did identify himself. Yeah. According to to his office, he was there in the federal building, receiving a briefing. And then he was there listening to the press conference. Let's bring in our bureau chief and political director, David Chalien, to talk about this. It's interesting that that now appears to be the narrative coming from DHS, that they didn't know who he was. Now let's tell the story of Andrea. She testified at the recent Democratic oversight shadow hearing that we exclusively covered at the Midas Touch

Network. Listen to her story. This was ordered by Christine Ome as well. Play this clip. Good morning and thank you for having me. My name is Andrea Vales, a proud daughter of Mexican immigrants and a Cal Polypumano graduate. I was raised with morals, kindness, respect, and always doing what is right. I am self-spoken, but today I must speak for myself and for those who cannot. On Tuesday, June 24, my mother and sister dropped me off at work. Seconds later, onmarked cars, swarmed the streets and mass men in plain clothing began chasing and attacking people without identifying themselves as eyes. One of them ran towards me. Terrified, I'd used my work back as a shield, but he slammed me into the sidewalk and accused me of interfering. When I asked for his badge or a warrant, he refused and handcuffed me. They didn't believe I was a U.S. citizen or bothered to check my ID.

My mother and sisters saw it all, powerless to intervene, they called 911. But LAPD assisted ICE, instead of protecting me. Another US citizen, Luis Ipolito, was detained that day for recording. He was pepper spray beaten. They minimized his pain as not a big deal, despite convulsing, bleeding, and struggling to breathe.

Only after he was into shock did I call an ambulance. I spent most of that first day, shackled in a van, watching others arrive, distraught, and taken against their will, while ambulances came and went for those attacks. Inside, I was denied the right to call my family or speak to a lawyer. I just refused to disclose my whereabouts, requests to use the bathroom or asking for food were met with hostility and anger.

At the Metropolitan Detention Center, I could not access drinking water without purchasing a cup. Thankfully, another detainee let me theirs. I was held there until Thursday, and my case was dismissed two weeks later for lack of evidence. Since that day, I no longer feel safe. I detached from my trauma, yet our community continues to be targeted because of the color of our skin. I urge you to hold ICE and other agencies accountable for dehumanizing our Hispanic and immigrant communities. Thank you. And lastly, I want to remind you when Christine Ome showed up to testify before the United States Senate.

Remember when she testified back in May of 2025? Remember Senator Murphy's cross-exam of her? I remember it. Here it is. Let's play it. I mean, I think this is really troubling if you can't answer. to this simple question, do you believe that the U.S. government can detain and deport a legal permanent resident for expressing a political opinion that the administration disagrees with?

The determination you're asking for is based on things that you are determining that the Secretary of State has considered and evaluated. We don't evaluate that, the administration, along with the partnership with the Department of State, on what is political speech and what an affiliation with a foreign terrorist organization. Do you believe that's the difference between the two that you're asking you can detain and deport a legal permanent resident for expressing a political opinion? We have not detained or we have not deported anybody who's a legal permanent resident or citizen of the United States. Then say you don't have the ability to do that. We have clarified that for the millions of. That is exactly what I'm doing is that we have

followed exactly what the law is and that we have not detained or deported anybody who's a citizen or has legal status in this country. We are focused on the worst of the worst, dangerous criminals to get them out of the country. You do not believe you have the ability to do that. We have not done that at all. And the Trump administration has no plans to do that. Well, just because you haven't done it doesn't mean that you want to do in the future.

Do you believe you have the ability to do that or not? I think you were going to act appropriate thing in partnership with the Department of State and in partnership with the Trump administration. Have you read the, I assume you have read the Supreme Court decision in the case? of Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia. Yes. That court decision requires the administration to facilitate Kilmara-Brigo-Garcia's release from El Salvador. Can you describe the steps that you have taken to facilitate this release?

And specifically, can you answer as to whether you have reached out to your counterpart in El Salvador to facilitate Mr. Obrigo-Garcia's release? Brego Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador and should never have been in this country and will not be coming back to this country. There is no scenario where Abrago Garcia will be in the United States again. If he were to come back, we would immediately deport him again because he is a terrorist. He's a human smuggler and he is a wife beat. You've read the Supreme Court decision. Does the Supreme Court decision not require you to facilitate the return of Mr. Obrigo Garcia?

The Trump administration is complying with all court orders and judges' orders. Does the Supreme Court order require you to facilitate the return of Mr. Braco-Garcia? Is a citizen of El Salvador? It is up to the president of the El Salvador to make the decision. You're a defendant in the case. It's coming back. It's been a big topic of conversation between all of us, between the country. When the president visited the United States of America, it was discussed and talked about there.

The president has been very clear on this issue. as the Secretary of State, and I have as well. Abrago Garcia is not a citizen of this country and is a dangerous individual who does not belong here. I will end. I will not ask another question, Madam Chair. If you were back in this country, we would immediately. But the discussion ends when the Supreme Court rules 9-0

that you have to facilitate his release. And the fact that you can't even acknowledge the wording of the order, which commands you to facilitate his release, and you advertise to this committee that you are going to will ignore the ruling. And that is incredibly chilling for the balance of powers in a democracy that relies on the executive branch to honor decisions made by the highest court of the land. There you have it, folks. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to six million. We know it was you, Christy. Despicable person. Hey, Midas Mighty. It's Ben Breton, Jordy, and we just

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