The MeidasTouch Podcast - Trump’s RAPID DECLINE ACCELERATES, He’s NOT TAKING IT WELL
Episode Date: January 5, 2024Ben and Jordy Meiselas report on Donald Trump looking weaker by the day as MAGA grasps at anything to try and protect their cult leader. Watch the Meidas More after show and support us on Patreon at... https://patreon.com/meidastouch DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS: Moink: Keep American farming going by signing up at https://MoinkBox.com/MEIDASTOUCH RIGHT NOW and listeners of this show get FREE bacon in your first box Reel Paper: If you head to https://REELPAPER.com/meidas and sign up for a subscription using code MEIDAS at checkout, you’ll automatically get 30% off your first order and FREE SHIPPING! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Trump's name is on the list. Seven times Donald Trump's name appears on the Epstein flight log
and new deposition transcripts that were released from this document dump of civil records that just took place,
shows that Epstein brought at least one or two victims to Donald Trump's properties.
I know this is being ignored by legacy media, not here on the Midas Touch Network.
Stop the filing. Stop the filing.
That's what Donald Trump is saying in the whiniest motion I've ever read in my entire life. Heck, if a law student submitted this to me in one of my classes,
I would kick them out of my class and say, nope, not ever going to become a lawyer.
Donald Trump has filed a contempt motion against special counsel Jack Smith after special counsel Jack
Smith has filed some documents and lodged some documents in the Washington DC criminal docket
while a stay is pending. Also, Donald Trump has filed a reply brief with the DC Circuit Court of
Appeals in connection with his claim
for absolute presidential immunity. And you know how in cases you normally cite precedent and other
legal cases, Donald Trump cites to his own social media account and a compendium, he says, that he compiled as to why he wasn't involved in January
6th and why he claims he said everybody should be peaceful and patriotic. And Donald Trump cites
himself for this deranged, unhinged conspiracy theory. I think on January 9th, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals is going to rip Donald Trump's lawyers to shreds.
And Donald Trump has just announced through a new report in CBS and through Maggie Haberman that he plans to attend that D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals hearing.
So expect there to be a lot of whining. And then when it comes to Donald Trump petitioning for certiorari
before the United States Supreme Court, appealing the Colorado Supreme Court's order disqualifying
Donald Trump from the ballot in the state of Colorado, Donald Trump repeats his argument
that he never took an oath to support the United States Constitution.
And so if he never took an oath to support the United States Constitution,
how could the 14th Amendment Section 3 apply to him?
Trump also argues that he was not an officer of the United States.
And Donald Trump argues that the judicial branch can't do anything when it comes to him.
Only Congress can do that. And also that fits with Donald Trump's conception as well of absolute
presidential immunity, where he says that there is nothing the prosecutors can do because he's
entitled to absolute immunity. In both of these claims,
he's saying that he is above the law, never even took an oath to support the Constitution.
Also, this morning, dastardly acts by Donald Trump tormenting the victim that he was found
to have raped by a federal court judge and jury back in May in the E. Jean Carroll trial. I know
that there's a lot going on in the news right now, but the fact that you have the leader of
the Republican Party was found liable for rape by a federal jury and a judge who confirmed the
jury's ruling when Trump tried to challenge it,
and Trump has spent the day post after post after post after post about his victim,
that is some of the most heinous conduct imaginable.
Yet, that is the GOP in 2024.
And to that point, while the economy is doing well, while President Biden has got inflation
under control, while there are new statistics out that there is a manufacturing boom and specifically
a boom in factory construction projects and in factories across the country and jobs are being created.
What do the MAGA Republicans do? Performative antics. They go and they run to the border,
hold press conferences there. And as President Biden says, look, I keep on saying I'm trying
to provide $14 billion to have more border agents to get things done in certain areas
where walls may be needed. Sure, we can invest in that, but we need to be smart and surgical
about what we do. And I want to invest in making sure that our border security is top-notch.
What do MAGA Republicans do? They go, we don't want the funding. We don't care about any
of that. You need to just shut it down. More PR stunts, again, showing that MAGA Republicans
are just in it to create crises. And then once they are the arsonists that create the fire,
then they say only they are the ones who can fix it. So we have a lot to discuss.
Jordy, how are you?
Brett is not with us tonight, but he'll be back next week.
Don't you worry, folks, about that.
Jordy, enjoyed doing the show with you last week,
and great to see you again.
Big bro, great to see you.
You know, in just the context of everything that we do here, Ben, at the Midas Touch Network
and things and how much you and I talk, I always forget that you're a professor.
And when Trump and his lawyers, you know, file these spineless and just baseless, you
know, motions and briefs or whatever they're filing, you know, you must look at it just
from exactly that lens alone.
Like if one of your students were to show you this, how must look at it just from exactly that lens alone. Like if one of your
students were to show you this, how would you react to them? And it's just so upsetting. And
it's just such an embarrassment, unfortunately, to you, Big Bro, to your profession, not to you,
but to your profession, Ben, because it's just utterly ridiculous what Trump and his legal team
and what they've all been doing. I'm excited for tonight's show. We've got a lot going on. Jordy, just to that point, I'll go slightly out of order as I had
it in my mind because you brought that up. I mean, I'm a law professor. I teach law students.
I teach undergrad students when I'm not doing the Midas Touch show and the hot takes that I do
every day. And so when I see Alina Haba go on and do an interview,
this just happened moments before we were live. Let me show you this interview. She goes on this
podcast. It's a right-wing podcast, even though they probably claim they aren't, they are.
And she's asked, do you think the reason that you are Trump's lawyer is because you're attractive?
And so the conversation is about her saying that she's pretty and that it's a good thing how pretty she is and that she'd rather be pretty than smart because you can fake being smart and get away with it.
This is a real conversation. So yes, Jordy, as a law professor, as a lawyer,
as someone who litigated for 10 years, when I watch this, it is such a mockery of our legal
system. It is such a perversion. And speaking of perversion, we'll get to that in a bit,
but play this clip of Alina Abba. Say say what you will about Trump alpha man, you know, you,
you, you would suspect he picks an alpha guy, but he picks a feminine, smart, capable woman.
How much of you being an attractive, smart woman do you think played into a role in this
to hammer in the public? Cause I can tell you it's been a double-edged sword. It's been something I
have had to deal with in the positive and in the negative. I don't think I would be on TV or sitting here
if I didn't look the way I look. I think I caught attention. I'm very honest about that. And I don't
mind. I'm not a feminist. Okay. I believe in strong women, but I want my door opened. I am
very much an old school, my parents are Middle Eastern, old school woman. When I'm at home,
I cook. I have a husband, I respect,
I know how to turn it off. But do I not think that if, um, you know, I'll tell you something.
Somebody said to me, Alina, would you rather be, um, would you rather be smart or pretty?
And I said, Oh, easy, pretty. I can fake being smart.
I meet him all the time, Alina.
You know, I mean, that's the honest truth.
And it's going to make me, you know, I'm sure there'll be some Washington Post article about it tomorrow.
Daily Beast, my favorite.
But listen, like you have to be honest.
It doesn't hurt to be good looking in this world, in the PR world, on TV.
It doesn't hurt.
And when you're good looking, that's great.
But it can also mean people think you're stupid or people think that President Trump hired me because I was good looking.
That is absolutely not the case.
And well, you just said that if you were pretty, you can fake that you are smart.
What kind of thing is that to even say?
And the fact that there's even that discussion, we have very serious issues, very serious issues
going before the DC Circuit Court of Appeals and the United States Supreme Court,
because an adult crybaby in Donald Trump can't accept the fact that he lost in an election by over
7 million votes and got wiped out in the electoral college. And this crybaby wants to destroy our
legal system, mutilate our constitution by invoking absolute presidential immunity as a way to say
that if you are a former president or president, you could have committed
any crimes whatsoever and get away with it. You could have coups. You could be an authoritarian.
It doesn't matter at all. And we have a discourse like the one I just showed you where Alina Habba
said, well, if you're hot, if you're hot, they'll let you. It's good if they do that when you're
hot. And then say, well, Donald Trump's kind of like an alpha male. Donald
Trump's not an alpha male. Okay. In the E. Jean Carroll trial, and we'll talk about that in just
a moment, Donald Trump fled to another country because he was afraid to be in the state of New
York. He ran away to Scotland because he is an absolute coward. When Donald Trump had the opportunity to testify
on direct examination in the New York Attorney General civil fraud case, no, he did not testify
there and said, oh, if I can't attack the judge's principal law clerk, then it's so unfair that I
can't show up and testify. I can't be there. Donald Trump is avoiding every single debate in the Republican
presidential primary. Donald Trump is not an alpha at all. And the fact that they even frame
things in those terms, alpha who's hot. How about we follow our fricking constitution? Okay. How
about we do that? And then after that, Alina Haba and just, I don't know how they live with themselves. They just say Alina Haba,
who's there doing these absurd press conferences every day, prancing around and bragging about
how she got sanctioned over a million dollars in a case. Bet you didn't hear about that. I got
sanctioned $1 million by a Clinton appointed judge because you filed a freaking frivolous lawsuit. That's why you
got sanctioned over close to a million dollars. Here's what she says, Jordi, about the other side.
She says that this is how the other side acts. Here, play this clip.
They love having pressers. They love having press conferences. Jack Smith,
they love having press conferences, getting in front, having their moment. It's almost narcissistic. Each press conference lasted shorter than, I think, three minutes where he literally just said an indictment has been unsealed.
The allegations in the indictment are the following.
I will not take further questions.
I will let our filings do the talking for us in the courtroom.
And Alina Haba is out there every single day with Donald Trump saying, the judge valued Mar-a-Lago at $27 million.
And it's actually worth 150 times that.
Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.5 billion.
And the judge valued it at $27.
No, idiot.
You valued it at $27 million because you didn't want to pay property taxes.
The judge was saying what you said.
That's what the judge was citing.
But it's all projection.
And by the way, Jordy, why is she even on that show in the first place?
Doesn't she have work to be doing anyway?
And then second of all, Jack Smith, of all the people to reference of who likes to give
pressers, you're going to throw out Jack Smith.
He's literally, to your point, Ben, giving out give pressers, you're going to throw out Jack Smith. He's literally,
to your point, Ben, giving out two press conferences, maybe. And those were like
statements that he wrote before and didn't take any questions after or maybe all of two minutes
long. I'd say this to you, Ben, have they no shame? But I know the answer to that. They don't
have any shame, these macro Republicans, the Alina Habas, the Donald Trumps. They love it.
And they love lying to their base when Alina Haba, the Donald Trumps, they love it. And they love lying
to their base when Alina Haba goes and Charlie Kirk's event and told, you know, it says the
thing about the, I bet you didn't know I was sanctioned a million dollars and laughs at her
own people because those are the people who actually paid off her fine. Those are the people
that donate to Donald Trump's legal defense funding. Where does that money go? Oh, I don't
know. Maybe to the lawyers who defend Donald Trump and where's that money coming from? Off the people that show up to
these crazy unhinged events. It should infuriate them, Ben. It should infuriate them that they're
being lied to like this on a daily basis. And for those that have come over from the, you know,
former conservative party, right? I'm happy to have you here and I'm happy that you're seeing
the truth that you're just being lied to. And that's why we always talk about on this show is we don't frame things even in like
liberal or conservative because MAGA is not conservative. We frame things here as you're
either pro-democracy or you're MAGA, which is extremist and fascist plus idiocracy. And I think you'll see that idiocracy shining through over
and over again. Jordi, why is it that legacy media is too cowardly to talk about the fact
that Donald Trump was mentioned in, I mean, and I give them credit right here. This is from the
messenger who put this out, but they're a new media company, that Donald Trump is mentioned on the Epstein list,
seven times on the flight log, in deposition transcripts that were just released. So there
was a document dump of records, deposition transcripts from a civil lawsuit that was brought by one of the victims
of Jeffrey Epstein. Donald Trump's name appears in the deposition. We know that it appeared seven
times in the flight log. And let me ask you just this question, Jordy, before getting in that.
Do you think it would be disqualifying? Would it be disqualifying for you, let me say it, if President Biden had said this in
the past, that if you learned that President Biden said the following, would this be disqualifying
for you?
I've known Jeffrey Epstein for 15 years.
Terrific guy.
He's a lot of fun to be with.
It's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do.
And many of them are on the younger side.
Would that be disqualifying for you?
Yes, automatically.
Yes, yes.
Disqualifying, thousand percent.
Would it be disqualifying for you if there was a document dump that took place in a case involving Jeffrey Epstein, the one that just
took place. And it said the following, one of the victims in the deposition said the following,
we, as we were flying, Jeffrey said, why don't you go sit in the cockpit to check out the landing?
So we were sitting there and the pilots told me to go back and tell him that we can't land
in New York and that we were going to have to land in Atlantic City.
Jeffrey said, great, let's just call up Joe Biden and we'll go to one of his businesses.
I don't recall the name of it, but we'll go to one of Biden's businesses.
If that was in a deposition transcript, Jordy, would that be disqualifying for you if Jeffrey
Epstein is taking victims to
a Biden house or a Biden property? Yes, automatically 1000% disqualifying.
Cannot, will not, will not vote for that. Let me ask you another question. If when documents
were released, you saw on the flight logs, in addition to all I just showed you, that President Biden, when he was not the president,
he took seven flights with Jeffrey Epstein on Jeffrey Epstein's private jet. Would that be
something that would raise a lot of red flags? So all of the things I just said are things about
Donald Trump. If you go to the deposition transcript that I just read, the victim said
that Jeffrey said, great, we'll call up Donald Trump
and we'll go to, I don't recall the name of the casino, but we'll go to the casino referring to
one of Trump's casino. The flight log names Donald Trump seven different times as being on the flight
on seven different occasions. And Donald Trump said, I've known Jeffrey Epstein for 15 years. Terrific guy. Donald Trump said this in 2002. Okay. That was 2002. That wasn't like Donald Trump said it like in the eighties. It was 2002 after Donald Trump met Melania Trump at the Kit Kat Club. And he was introduced by someone who had a foreign modeling agency who brought
over foreign women as models and threw parties for them at the Kit Kat Club with wealthy men
that Donald Trump attended those parties right there. Do you think that you add all of those
factors up together right there? And 2002, that's what Donald Trump is like. I've known Jeffrey
Epstein for 15 years. Terrific guy.
He's a lot of fun to be with. It's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do.
And many of them are on the younger side. What if instead of talking about infrastructure and bringing jobs to this country and tackling inflation and supporting our democracy and supporting our veterans and
supporting Ukraine and our allies? What if President Biden gave a press conference and he
was asked a question about Ghislaine Maxwell? Just let me start the premise of that. That would never
ever happen because President Biden has no relationship with someone who's a convicted sex offender.
So the question would never get posed in the first place to President Biden.
But then imagine that this were the answer.
Let's play this clip right here of Donald Trump when he's asked about Ghislaine Maxwell.
And this is when she was arrested and going to trial and Trump was
still disgracing the Oval Office. Play this clip. Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison. And a lot of
people want to know if she's going to turn in powerful people. And I know you've talked in
the past about Prince Andrew and you've criticized Bill Clinton's behavior. I'm wondering, do you
feel that she's going to turn in powerful men? How do you see that working out? I don't know. I haven't really been following it too much. I just wish her well,
frankly. I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach,
and I guess they lived in Palm Beach. But I wish her well, whatever it is. I don't know the
situation with Prince Andrew. Just don't know. Not aware of it. I wish her well. I wish Ghislaine Maxwell
well is what Donald Trump said. So we're putting these data points together, right? He says,
Epstein's a terrific guy and likes to be around with girls on the younger side. Trump is on the
plane on seven different occasions. His name is on the log. That's what he says about
Ghislaine Maxwell. And how about this? I could show a lot of clips like this, but imagine if
there was a recording that surfaced of President Biden in the past, not championing civil rights
like President Biden did during his career before becoming the President of the United States,
like he did in the Senate. But imagine if the clip was not of speeches of President Biden in
the Senate fighting for responsible gun ownership in the past or fighting for equal rights and civil
rights, which President Biden was known for doing before becoming president.
What if President Biden said this about an 18-year-old girl, Lindsay Lohan? Here, play this
clip. What do you think of Lindsay Lohan? I think she's hot. There's something there, right? Yes.
You have to like freckles. I've seen a close-up of her chest. Yes. And a lot of freckles. Are you into freckles?
If the father's a wreck like the way he is.
Right.
You imagine the sex with this troubled.
Yeah, you're probably right.
She's probably deeply troubled and therefore great in bed.
Back in the day.
How come the deeply troubled women. Yes. You know, deeply, deeply, deeply troubled, they're always the best in bed.
For some reason, what I said is true. I mean, they're just unbelievable. You don't want to
be with them for the long term, but for the short term, there's nothing.
Or how about this? This is what Donald Trump said about Paris Hilton when she was 12 years old.
12 years old.
Play this clip.
Really beautiful.
Really beautiful is Paris Hilton.
Paris Hilton.
And I've known Paris Hilton from the time she's 12.
She's hot.
Her parents are friends of mine.
And, you know, the first time I saw her, she walked into the room and said, who the hell is that?
Did you want to bang her?
She is a very, well, at 12, I wasn't interested.
I've never been into that.
Right, right.
They've sort of always stuck around that 25 category.
But even at 12, you were kind of like, wow, she's hot.
No, but I saw her at 12.
She was beautiful.
But honestly, you know, Paris gets knocked and this and that.
But she's very beautiful.
Is she dumb?
She's flawless.
She's dumb like a fox.
Have you seen the video, the sex video?
I have seen it.
You did? What did you do? Did you go to the internet? No, it was just, sex video i have seen it you did what'd you do
it was just yeah how did you see that what did you do melania she showed it to me she showed it
to me what did you think of that i i think it's probably unfortunate and perhaps it made
what is that noise that's the tape by the way did you notice at the end there, it was subtle because obviously the introductory part
was so heinous and offensive. He blamed Melania for showing him. He said it was Melania's fault
why he saw it, showing just what a absolute sociopath is. And here's the thing. I had this
debate before with Michael Cohen and Cohen was saying that all these other things are
disqualifying about Donald Trump, but we should be focusing on all these other things. By the way,
I agree we should be focusing on, and we will. It's not like I don't focus on these other things.
I focus on the January 6th insurrection all the time and Trump's role in it. I focus on Donald
Trump's financial crimes all the time, Donald Trump's fraud. We can walk and chew gum
at the same time, but you have to have a modicum of moral character. And I just want to be clear
that if this was the other way around and President Biden did any of that, any of that at all,
it would be the most disqualifying thing. And how do I know that? Because we've had to hear endlessly for almost a
decade now that Hunter Biden's consensual nudes have some relevance on President Biden when Hunter
Biden's not holding an office, not like Kushner, who made $640 million while in the White House.
I think back to that Alina Haba confession and projection,
all they want to do is be on pressers. And as the right wing tries to attack Hunter Biden from
getting a $4,000 loan from Joe Biden when Biden was not the VP and when Biden was not the president
of the United States after a while, Hunter Biden was trying to recover. So Hunter Biden can like
buy a truck or something that that's what the right wing focus is on. But then yeah,
$640 million for Kushner while in office, he makes 640. Who cares? $3.5 billion from Middle East
nations, 2 billion coming from the Saudi sovereign wealth fund when MBS, the crown prince of Saudi
Arabia says, I have Jared
Kushner in my pocket. And it's believed that Kushner may have handed over a kill list to MBS.
Whatever. A new report comes out today from the Democrat oversight committee that Trump directly
was paid over $5 million from China, from President Xi. And there's probably a lot more than just that,
$7.8 million from foreign governments, including our adversaries. And that's in addition to all of
those other numbers that I previously just listed with Kushner and Ivanka. And in addition to about
$160 million Donald Trump made in office from foreign business while he was in office.
And for the MAGA Republicans, it's just like, whatever, whatever. And so my point to Conan,
I'll focus on all of this other stuff. But at the end of the day, any one of these things
should be disqualifying. And I don't want to get distracted about how abhorrent Donald Trump's conduct is, and especially how he directs that at women.
And then you go back to that Alina Haba podcast where then the right-wing echo chamber goes,
oh, that's just Donald Trump being an alpha. Bullshit. That's not what alpha is.
Exactly. Alpha is not treating women that way, way. And if we're a respectable nation,
that is the way no alpha man treats a woman. That's what a freaking coward loser does.
And by the way, pull up these posts from Donald Trump this freaking morning. This is what this
loser is doing this freaking morning. E. Jean Carroll, who he was found to have raped. Donald Trump was found to have raped her
by a federal court.
Look at these posts this morning.
Post, post, post, post, post, post, post, post.
He's tormenting the victim who he raped this morning.
And Republicans want to make this freaking maniac
the leader of their party and the leader of our country
and give this freaking maniac the nuclear codes?
If you are not outraged at that heading into 2024, then I don't know what you could possibly
be outraged at because that behavior right there is not just un-American,
it is freaking disgusting and sub-human behavior, Jordan.
Heinous and despicable. I urge all of our audio listeners to head on over to the YouTube
channel specifically for this episode and look at that video that we just played of Donald Trump attacking
the person whom he raped, E. Jean Carroll, attacking her post after post after post,
like some, I don't know, like some just deranged high school student going through like a weird
emotional breakdown. This is utterly bizarre
behavior. And so for all of those who sit on the fence and be like, you know, I'm not sure if I'm
a Biden guy or a Trump guy or Democrat or Republican, you know, I am, I just want the
country to be normal again. Well, so do I. And so does everybody, right? Like that's what we want,
but putting an unhinged lunatic that's going to go after his rape victim
and the fact that he even has a rape victim at all should be disqualifying to you first and foremost.
But just go look at these things that we're showing you on the screen right now and just
tell yourselves and ask yourselves and show people around you who may be on the fence. Hey,
is this somebody that you want to have the nuclear codes? Is this someone you want to
represent you or we the people? Absolutely not.
Unhinged, deranged, despicable. There was a time where if you spelled potato wrong,
you would not be able to disqualify. Gone. If you took a weird photo of yourself windsurfing
and looked out of touch, that was a major, major scandal.
You know, if you shouted, Yahoo, we're going here, woohoo, you know, then that's it, you know,
and that's because there was a modicum of moral character, a floor that was needed to be able to become the president of the United States.
When I became a lawyer 13 years ago, or almost 14 years at this point, it's a while to even
think about that. You have to take a moral character exam and they do a background check
on your moral character. I would not be able to be a lawyer if any of the things, or you would be,
I want to make it personal to me, but no one would be able to become a lawyer if they did any of the
things that Donald Trump engaged in. You would lose your law license, but now all of a sudden
you can become the president of the United States and engage in this behavior. And the media wants
to cover it like it's a horse race and that they're these
kind of commentators watching a football game between competitors. That is not your role.
Your role is to report the facts about what is going on. And if somebody is found liable for
rape, you're supposed to say as the media that that is
disqualifying.
Because frankly, if you don't do that, I think that you're complicit.
I'll just go and say it.
I think you're complicit.
By the way, Jordy, take a look at how this article was even written by Axios.
And here's what I mean about the way they describe it as like a foot race and like feelings.
They do their story, right?
Right, right.
And let's just go to the, before going to the intrigue,
let's just pull up Salty, the main one.
Factory construction spending booms under President Biden, right?
Objectively, that sounds good, right, Jordy?
Economy good.
Factory booming.
U.S. manufacturing construction spending $209.8 billion. Okay, that seems seasonally
adjusted annual rate monthly. And then we go into the story by the numbers. Let's go to the first
one by the numbers, which is manufacturing related construction hit a $210 billion annual rate in November, more than triple the average rate in the 2010s,
according to census data out this week. All that spending is driving an increase in construction
hiring. Job openings in construction increased by $43,000 last month, according to BLS data out yesterday, and are up by $111,000 from the last year.
So if I'm writing that story and I want to give you my opinion on it, I would say that's good
data. And I would say that should be good for President Biden. Ultimately, we'll have to see
if people feel those effects, but jobs are good for
our country, period. That's how I'd end the story. Because Ben, up until then, you were just reading
that that was just data. Those were data points. Those were statistics. That was a good article
up until that point. And then it kind of, I don't know, just loses all sense of itself.
What happens next, Ben? Then in the article, they go, the intrigue. Ooh, ooh, the intrigue here. The boom has done little
for Biden politically, as most voters likely don't think about the building of new factories
as they assess the condition of the economy or when they assess the condition of
the economy. Plus, Republican politicians have claimed credit for a lot of the construction
that is happening thanks to those new laws. Those new laws, the laws that President Biden
championed that the Republicans opposed, I don't know. Let me
give you a softball story. Way to make that sentence as confusing as possible. Just a simple
reframe there, as Republicans try and take credit for the policies that the Biden administration
put forward. It's just like, why pivot the article into such a weird base? And by the way,
I do have an answer to this, but I'll let you finish. And then I want to chime in a little bit more. And then they go as most voters likely don't think about the building
of new factories when they assess the condition of the economy. Really? Because if you say job
openings in construction increased by 43,000 in the last month, and those jobs are filled,
I don't know. I think if the voter is somebody who got that good paying
factory job, who can now put a roof over the heads of their families and could provide a good meal
for their families and take their families on vacations and not have to be paycheck to paycheck,
I don't know. That seems to be an issue that a voter would care about if they have access to
better paying jobs. On what basis do you say that most voters don't
link more jobs to the condition of the economy? I mean, perhaps at a micro level, a voter who's
not in that industry may not link that, but for at least 43,000 and perhaps hundreds of thousands
of Americans and potentially millions who are
getting these jobs, that is life-changing. And all I heard under the Trump administration,
every single freaking day, stock market, stock market, stock market, stock market,
the stock market, the stock market. And stock market is not an indicator of the economy.
What is an indicator are jobs like this, like factory jobs and good
paying jobs for workers. That's actually what is the economy. And Biden's doing both. Yet for
legacy media over and over again, they twist and they contort it this way. And we'll talk when we
come back. One of the things that we see that right wing is doing right now
over and over again, their plan for 2024, they're like, oh crap, Biden against all odds while we
try to screw this up. I mean, heck, it was the MAGA Republicans that added $8 trillion of debt.
It was Donald Trump that did it. It was them who recklessly printed money. It was them who
are the arsonists, but they're like, crap, Biden put out that fire. Inflation's under control. Interest rates are going down. The economy's good. Can we
make the argument on crime? No, actually crimes in record lows. It's only higher right now in red
states and red cities and red counties, but overall crime is down significantly to historical
lows. So what is it that we do?
They run to the border.
They say invasion.
They come up with fake stats.
About 12 million people are invading the border.
They take videos. Many of them of these caravans are taken from the southern border of Mexico.
Lots of them are videos from the United States-Mexican border. There are some there.
And then they show people crossing out of context of like, well, what's going on? I don't know.
Are these people processed? Hundreds of thousands of people are getting deported right now. What
happens thereafter? And when President Biden says, look, I want $14 billion, more border agents,
more border security, a tougher border. I'm willing
to do that. What do MAGA Republicans say? Nah, we don't want that money. Money's not going to
solve the problem because it's just gaslighting and being arsonist over and over again, Jordy.
Ben, I want to say two things real quick. One, on the topic that we were just talking about before
with the Axios article, there's been this weird media overcorrection that I've noticed from legacy media over the years, over these last couple of years,
specifically, where they try and show that they're so not biased by putting inherent bias in their
articles by contributing to some weird narratives. So for example, specifically with the Biden
article, like just stick to the facts, like that article did such a great job in the beginning,
just giving me data and analytics and numbers and statistics. It's all sounds great. And now you're going to
come in and lead with some weird narrative and opinion and thought piece like out of nowhere,
just why? So you don't get a mean tweet from some MAGA Republican saying you were mean to my guy
because you didn't talk about X, Y, and Z. No, it's, it's lead with the facts. The facts will
guide everybody's North star there. And then if you have an opinion or thought piece afterwards, like just like let it sort
of be known that, hey, we're going to get into an area now that's not necessarily based
on all the data that I'm showing you, you know, that that that it comes before this.
It's truly upsetting to see.
And then when we see the border, Ben, and everything like that, I mean, I just can't
stop thinking about Democrats want to get things
done. And Republicans time and time again, just want to use situations and people and things as
props for their campaigns for their own agendas. Republicans in this new age, and especially the
MAGA Republicans, they don't actually want to solve these problems, because then they
have another thing that they can't go on Fox News and get invited on to talk about.
Like if they actually sat at the table with President Biden and figured out a solution
for the border, which Democrats, by the way, want to do, they lose all sense of all of their
talking points. And all of a sudden they have nothing to run on and win in their red districts
and red states. They don't want to actually solve the problems. That's the worst thing for them because
to them, they could care less about their constituents or the American people. They
just want to stay in their seats. And then convince the American people that they're
worthless. And that's one of the indicia of authoritarian regimes. If you can get people to accept that they're worthless,
they'll accept breadcrumbs. And you can throw the breadcrumbs at people, by the way, the way
Donald Trump envisions himself as doing those kind of heinous acts and making people feel that that's
what they deserve. The American experiment has always been a rejection of that
concept, that the American dream, the whole concept of what we can all be as Americans,
that's the power of America. And MAGA Republicans want people to feel like crap,
want people to feel worthless, create the problems,
claim they're going to fix it, keep people in a perpetual crisis that can't be solved,
and then say a strong man should come along and be the only person who can fix it. It is an age-old
tale of authoritarianism historically in other countries, but the fact that here it falls squarely with the
Republican Party that has given up democracy in favor of their MAGA fascism. We'll talk about a
lot of this in additional detail, and specifically I want to get into some of the court filings by
Donald Trump, including this motion for contempt that he filed, this 14th Amendment Section 3
disqualification petition, Trump's reply on the issue of absolute presidential immunity.
The theme throughout all of these, whether it's absolute presidential immunity or I never took
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Jordy, if President Biden,
we talked about earlier, President Biden did this, would this be disqualifying? If President Biden
made a post that said, President Biden did that post on democracy today, we need to ensure
democracy in 2024 prevails. What if President Biden wrote, we need to preserve and protect
democracy in the 2020 election. And he said it
was the 2020 election. Do you think there would be a front page, honest question, do you think
there would be a front page story on major media? And this would be a story, is President Biden
suffering from cognitive decline? He's saying it's 2020, it's 2024. Do you have any
doubt about that? Absolutely. That's exactly what happened. It would be bigger news than the time
when Obama wore a tan suit and they lost their minds about it. I mean, that's, yes, on every
front. In addition to Donald Trump leading an insurrection, being on the Epstein flight log,
saying that Epstein's a great guy and likes that he hangs out around young girls. In addition to
Donald Trump being found liable for rape in a young girls, in addition to Donald Trump being found
liable for rape in a civil case, in addition to Donald Trump being on audio bragging about
sexually assaulting women, in addition to Donald Trump engaged in financial fraud, in addition to
all of those things. Here's what Donald Trump posted this morning. The invasion through our southern border is for purposes of voting in the 2020 election. They are signing people up would be the end of America MAGA,
the 2020 election. That also goes to show you that all of this is being coordinated and planned out
of Donald Trump. The entire House of Representatives is MAGA when it comes to the Republicans in the House of Representatives.
And they just coordinate it with Donald Trump.
And you've got MAGA Mike, right, who's gone his whole life talking about, oh, because of my religious values, I'm so superior to you and you and you.
You know, Donald Trump's his guy and Lauren Boebert's his gal. And he's endorsing
Lauren Boebert. Go Boebert. There's nothing more that satisfies those evangelical values
than Donald Trump. They're such phonies, Ben. They're just such phonies. I mean,
I couldn't imagine going my whole life with this set of values or perceived values that I sell to
my friends, my family,
my constituents. And then when you have just the moment to denounce some reprehensive behavior,
what do you do? You double down on it and you actually prop them up.
We did a five minute video on this where we highlighted every one of these Republican
leaders, like leadership people who have been involved in
sex crimes and things like this. And we go, we do a very detailed job, but like, I can,
you could go into the parties, like who's the leader of the Republican party in Florida, right?
You've got that Christian Ziegler guy who's now being investigated for crimes related to sexual abuse of a woman who
was involved in these threesome parties that he would have with his wife, who was the co-founder
of Moms for Liberty. And she's on the Sarasota board. She refuses to resign, even though she's
been the exact opposite of what she's preached. You go to, I think in Pennsylvania, Jordi,
in the Commonwealth in your own state, one of these parental rights people, she was throwing
underage parties at her home. She punched a teenager, Ben. She punched a teenager.
Punched a teenager in the face while letting all the other ones drink alcohol and have these ragers at her home.
It's over. And these are the people who want to take away your freedoms. And they are.
They're taking away your reproductive freedom. They want to take away who you marry, who you
love. It's people like this who behave this way. Let me just show you some of these recent filings here.
And they all have a commonality when it comes to Donald Trump.
It's the lack of accountability.
I can do whatever it is that I want.
And Donald Trump says that if special counsel Jack Smith keeps on filing documents in the
Washington, D.C. criminal case, Donald Trump's unable to handle that.
That's
causing him such distress and harassment. So you know the Washington DC criminal case before Judge
Tanya Chuck in his state, but even though it stayed, special counsel Jack Smith is voluntarily
producing records to Donald Trump because Jack Smith's like, okay, I'm pretty confident we're
going to win on an appeal and then we'll just turn over everything to you and you'll have it. You don't have to read it. Trump's not required to read any of
these documents because they stay pauses the proceedings, but Jack Smith is turning these over.
So what is Donald Trump doing in response? Donald Trump goes, I don't want you to turn
over anything to me. Not only that, but you're harassing me by turning over records voluntarily.
And special counsel Jack Smith filed a motion
in limine, which Trump absolutely doesn't have to respond to. It's just Jack Smith filed it on
the public docket. There's no deadlines for Donald Trump yet until the DC Circuit Court of Appeals
eventually affirms what the district court does and then a mandate issues and if there's no stay
and the proceedings take place. But Donald Trump has called that harassment. He says he's being harassed.
And then he goes on to say that special counsel Jack Smith shall be held in contempt,
along with other lawyers on Jack Smith's team like Molly Gaston and Thomas Windham. They should be
financially sanctioned in order to remove, take the documents
back that they've turned over to Donald Trump, because they say that by filing these documents,
they've turned the docket into a PR machine for the Biden administration's talking points.
It's directly from the site. What are you even talking about?
And then they go on to whine. They go, well, what's happening here? This is actually in their
motion that was filed today. They go, Jack Smith is following President Biden campaign because
President Biden's campaign went on Truth Social and they're creating an account on Truth Social
to post there.
And because the Biden campaign said that they want to combat disinformation by creating an
account on Truth Social to troll Trump, that therefore when Jack Smith is calling out
disinformation of Donald Trump, they are following the tactics of the Biden campaign on Truth Social.
And by the way, in Donald Trump's reply brief to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals on the tactics of the Biden campaign on truth social. And by the way, in Donald Trump's
reply brief to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals on the issue of absolute presidential immunity,
which Trump is going to lose, Donald Trump cites as precedent Donald Trump. So you know how normally
in cases you're supposed to cite like, well, this case said this, and that case said that. Donald Trump actually cites
a compendium that he made and posted on his social media as evidence supporting absolute
presidential immunity, why he says that January 6th was peaceful and patriotic. That's what Donald
Trump argues. He goes, the government relies on facts outside of the
indictment to, this is on page four, to wrongfully suggest Trump is responsible for the events at
the Capitol on January 6th. This is improper. The indictment does not charge Trump with
responsibility for the events at the Capitol on January 6th, and no evidence supports the
allegations, Trump says. The government's account selectively omits key facts,
such as that in his speech on the Ellipse, Trump encouraged the crowd to peacefully and
patriotically make your voices heard and cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.
Trump denounced the destruction of monuments and other symbols of American democracy.
He never encouraged anyone to enter the Capitol. He stated on social
media that protesters remain peaceful and stay peaceful and released a video from the Rose Guard
and telling protesters to go home now. The government's brief omits the vigorous disputes
and questions about the actual outcome of the 2020 presidential election. Disputes that date
back to November 2020 and continue to this day
in our nation's political discourse and are based on extensive information about widespread fraud
and irregularities in the 2020 election. So here, does Donald Trump cite, I don't know,
70 court cases that say he lost when he tried to make these frivolous challenges
to the 2020 election where he got slaughtered,
where he lost by over 7 million votes in the popular votes and got crushed in the electoral
college, crushed from a historical perspective in the electoral college. Does Donald Trump cite
court cases or studies or reports? No. What does he cite? Truthsocial.com slash at real Donald Trump, citing Donald Trump sharing his compendium of
election fraud in 2020. That's what Donald Trump is citing to the court. I mean, again, they lower
out, you know, going back to what we said at the outset, when you said, Jordy, Ben, you know,
you're a law professor. Like I'm like said, it's not a political party thing for me. That's why I say this is
about pro-democracy right here. This is not like, oh, liberal view, a conservative view. No,
today's Republican Party is not conservative anymore. They are a magum mutation and they now
champion January 6th. So if you all say January 6th is an insurrection, January 6th was a travesty,
January 6th is an embarrassment to our country. What do Republicans say? Oh, that's a Democrat
talking point. So much so that Bill Barr is viewed as a rhino. Bill Barr, they say is part of a,
that's what the MAGA says. Bill Barr was part of a liberal.
The rhino bill.
I'm not me. Bill Barr's a rhino to them right now. But, but, but so the, so the Republicans
say, Oh, the Democrats are politicizing it because the Republican political position,
January 6th, peaceful, patriotic, great. The Democrats, insurrection. And then the media
frames it as a both sides. Here's the Democratic position. Here's the Republican position. No,
that's not the Republican position. That's the terrorist position. And just say it.
That's the position of terrorists. That's the position of insurrectionists. That's the position
of traitors. That's the position of people who
engage in treasonous conduct. If you look at the insurrection and say that was peaceful and
patriotic. And then by the way, the idiocracy part that overlays here is that when they go,
but it was a fedsurrection and the feds were the ones who were involved. So the feds were
peaceful and patriotic and they were doing it. I mean, what are you even, and that's the fed showing the badge when it's like someone smoking a vape inside the Capitol
building. It's just the dumbest treason too. It's the dumbest stuff that lowers the discourse and
demeans the integrity of our country. But here's the thing, Jay, I think the American people get,
and I showed you this clip. I said, this voter right here, the primary voter for
Nikki Haley, someone who I probably vehemently disagree with on a lot of policy. The reality is
I might not. I assume I vehemently disagree with him on a lot of policy, but who knows what we
would forge if we actually talked about certain issues, but who knows? But he's being asked at this primary event where he's
supporting Nikki Haley, would you ever support Donald Trump? And I think that there is a base
of many, many, many Americans who are just like this guy right here. And I know a lot of people
watch the Midas Touch Network. And again, that's why I think if you looked at my views, you'd go, okay, Ben, liberal, progressive on paper, but I think I'm conservative too. I
believe in conserving our democracy. I believe in conserving our institutions. I believe that when
the Constitution's 14th Amendment, Section 3 says things, that it means things, by the way.
My view of the Second Amendment, when you say well-regulated militia, I'm a strict textualist. I think well-regulated militia should mean regulation
and it relates to militias. And it doesn't mean that we should read out all of the other portions
of it and just be like guns everywhere. Well, that doesn't make sense to me, to me, separation
of church and state as stated in the constitution means just that to me. And so is that a liberal position? I think that
that framing does everybody such a disservice, but I could say that this MAGA Republican party
is not conservative at all. And I think that the continued conversation that exists right now,
legacy media doesn't want to acknowledge it. They'll be like, oh, might as touch a far left.
What are you even talking about? I think that a lot of voters who were Republicans feel like this guy does. Watch
him. Donald Trump will likely be the Republican nominee. If that is the case, will you support
whoever the nominee were? No, I wouldn't support Donald Trump. I voted for Joe Biden last time.
I would do the same again if that were the race. Is there something Donald Trump could do to win over your support from Biden if that were
the eventual case?
Not at this point.
Is there something he did to especially sour you from him?
There are a lot of things.
That's a tough one to answer.
But January 6th in particular, I think this is an election about democracy and I would
ultimately choose democracy over political issues, even though I probably align more
with him on a lot of the issues. One last thing I
want to ask you there are some rumors that Nikki Haley may be his VP pick in
that case what would you think and could you support him if she was his VP? I
wouldn't support him under any circumstance and I would say the likelihood
of her being his VP I think is really low Tucker Carlson and a whole bunch of of the right wing media is already 100% against this. I don't see him doing it. I
think her support of Ukraine is critical. It's probably the top issue of the election
for me. It's on foreign policy at this point, on deficit reduction. I think she's miles
ahead of Donald Trump on both. Absolutely. I know actually in the Republican Party, support
for Ukraine is kind of divided 50-50.
She's made the case for Ukraine out here today.
Can you tell me a little bit more about what you think about the Republican Party being kind of split on this issue?
I think she's 100% right.
The invasion of Ukraine is wrong.
It's divisive.
It's unethical.
And she stands on the right side of history.
So, look, do I – I mean, if you want to talk about reducing the deficit, that's something that President Biden has worked on doing. And President Biden's initiatives have been very fiscally responsible. Donald Trump and you imagine if $8 trillion in debt was added under one term of the
Biden administration, what they would be talking about now? And then the MAGA Republicans, because
they have no shame and they can say things like Alina Haba does, well, Jack Smith cares just about
all of his attention. They have no shame. They don't acknowledge that Trump has poop in his pants.
And I'm being facetious there. They don't acknowledge that Trump has poop in his pants. And I'm being facetious.
They don't acknowledge that they're the arsonists. You know what I mean? They don't acknowledge
that they're the ones who created $8 trillion. And they did, and they know they did. They just
don't care about having an honest conversation. And then when President Biden fixes an issue,
they just move on to the next one. I mean, Jordy, when was the last time you heard the Republicans even like, remember,
was it two years ago? Everything was critical race theory, critical race theory, CRT, CRT,
CRT, CRT, CRT, CRT. Now it's DEI, DEI, DEI, DEI, you know, and they will move to whatever
bathrooms, bathrooms, bathrooms, bathrooms, bathrooms, you know, and they just move on to whatever issue it is that they think as they kind of A, B test what divides Americans the best.
And they say, how do we rip the fabric of this?
And President Biden says, how do we put this back together?
And the media says, oh, well, on the one side, you've got this.
On the one side, you've got that.
These are far left groups.
They're far right groups.
Everyone's a little bit crazy over here. And the media then also buys into one of these staples of fascism, which is the aura of inevitability.
When you think about the way fascism prevails, where they represent almost always a small fraction of the
population, it's by wearing down the majority, by basically being maniacs and making the majority
feel they have no hope and creating this air of inevitability. That's why Trump is so focused on
polls and winning, and there's no shot, and we're going to win over and over and
over and over again. And the same way the media gets caught up in right-wing narratives, whether
it's over CRT or DEI or bathrooms and the media, to your point, Jordi, thinking that, oh, well,
we have to be neutral here versus reporting what the real issues are. Their narrative is driven by right-wing mania and lies
and propaganda. And then legacy media addresses the topic from a both sides perspective,
while right-wing media pushes it as well. So you have 75, if you were doing a pie chart here,
75% is made up of that position getting injected into the veins of people.
And Ben, that gentleman we just listened to from Arkansas, he's so close to just fully getting it.
And then you listen to who he references as, I guess, potential news hosts, the Tucker Carlsons of the world and the right wing media, as he says it, that he
listens to says, oh, Nikki Haley will never be your VP. They're not pushing that. They're not
pushing. He's in that stream of the injection of those acronyms. Give me the CRTs, give me the
DEIs, whatever that red meat's going to be for this modern day MAGA base, that he just can't
fully take a step out and realize that all the things that he's
looking for Nikki Haley to do, Joe Biden's already done. And so he's just that close to getting it.
I did like that the gentleman did say that, hey, I'm not voting for Trump no matter what. I don't
care. Not going to happen. And it's just, you know, this legacy media, man, that's why I appreciate
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Absolutely.
When everyone was saying red wave,
red wave, red wave,
we had Simon Rosenberg and Tom Bond run
because they were focused on the data. We're like, red wave, red wave, Red Wave. We had Simon Rosenberg and Tom Bond run because they were focused on the data.
We're like, Red Wave, Red Wave, Red Wave. We're like, data, data, data, data.
And then the media was like, whoa, how did we get this wrong? Because you are just propagating
right-wing feelings. That's not what you should be doing. You should be focused on what the data is. Like with the Axios article, where are you getting that Americans don't care about jobs
that are happening in factories and manufacturing?
If you're an American and that's helped you, that's helped an American.
I'm sure that American is helpful for those jobs.
And so again, I look to Simon Rosenberg and Tom Bonnier about data.
And so you see right
here that nationally, Trump is weak. He's not strong. He's very weak. 35% to 40% of Republicans
don't support him nationally. Republicans from the old party, majority, and I think it's even
more than that. Majorities of Republicans not with him in the early states, Iowa, New Hampshire.
GOP is meaningfully
splintered, keeps losing elections. Olympian negatives on Trump will make it near impossible
for him to win. New Hampshire, if you look at this new poll from ARG from New Hampshire,
you have Trump at 37%, Haley at 33%. And so that's the Republican primary there, 37 percent to 33 percent right there.
And if Donald Trump was the foregone leader, you'd expect that number to be like 80 percent,
20 percent. And here's the thing with data. We can look at the way New Hampshire has
worked out in the past and who can vote in New Hampshire. More independent voters vote in New Hampshire.
New Hampshire Republicans are independent to begin with and more resemble that guy on the
video that we played. New Hampshire breaks late. New Hampshire has a governor who's endorsed,
Nikki Haley. I think Trump's going to lose New Hampshire. I've said that before. I'll say it.
I'm not just saying it to just say things. The data to me suggests that Trump is going to lose New Hampshire. And the data suggested to me that Trump would lose Iowa.
The problem is DeSantis is such a bad candidate that it's like he really screwed it all up there
because he had the whole organization of the Republican party behind him in Iowa, rather.
I thought he was going to win Iowa,
but he screwed it all up just by being a terrible candidate.
And those are caucuses in Iowa,
which require a lot of structure and organization, where I thought DeSantis could actually win in Iowa.
I thought Haley could win in New Hampshire.
I still think Haley can win and will win in New Hampshire.
And then where are we going to be, Jordy, in a few weeks? What's the media narrative? How did we get it wrong? Is Trump weaker?
I'm going to say, no, roll the tape back. When we were saying this, the data, and again,
data can change the way weather patterns can change. When you see a hurricane approaching
and you see those weather patterns, sometimes it looks like it's going to hit a certain area and
then it goes a certain direction. So I can only tell you which direction it's
going. If it changes, I'll adjust my methodology, but I am basing this on data and that's not being
discussed at all by any legacy media. It's always how strong he is, the horse race of him versus Biden, he may not secure this nomination. So we'll see
about that. But I wanted to say that piece right there. And then I will just mention this 14th
Amendment Section 3 petition for certiorari that Trump filed. He mimics the argument that he made
to the Colorado Supreme Court, now to the United States Supreme Court. And Jordy, if President Biden ever made
this statement, I'll close the show the way we began. Do you think this would be disqualifying
if President Biden said the following? President Biden did not take an oath to support the
Constitution of the United States. Imagine, I'll give it to you in a more real world context.
The MAGA Republicans in the House Oversight Committee, they are subpoenaing President Biden for all of this Hunter Biden nudie photos or whatever they care about in their depraved minds.
So imagine the response from President Biden is, I don't have to respond to you because I am not an officer of the United States
and because I did not take an oath to support the constitution of the United States. Now,
if that was in a filing, would that be front page of every paper on cable news every second?
And would it result in losing your support, Jordy, of President Biden?
Yes, yes, and yes. Disqualifying on the front page of every organization, on the front page
of every news head talking about it nonstop. We never hear the end of it. And absolutely 1,000%,
Big Bro, disqualifying, period. So Donald Trump's argument before the Colorado Supreme Court,
which is incorporated by reference in his petition to the Supreme Court for certiorari is the following.
The framers excluded the office of president from section three purposefully.
Section three does not apply because the presidency is not an office under the United States.
The president is not an officer of the United States and president Trump did not take an
oath to support the constitution of the United States, and President Trump did not take an oath to support the Constitution of the United States. So on the one hand, when it comes to absolute presidential
immunity, he says everything that special counsel Jack Smith asserts in his indictments
are within the power of the presidency. There is no layers of accountability.
And then when it comes to the disqualification, he goes, well, you know what? I'm not an officer and I never even took an oath to support the United States Constitution. And so I say this question, wouldn't you say those
are two also internally inconsistent arguments as well? If you didn't take an oath to support
the United States Constitution, how are you claiming absolute presidential immunity,
which you're claiming, which I would think would stem from the fact that you took an oath of office, but you don't have absolute presidential immunity either because you engaged in criminal conduct.
And there's no such thing as absolute presidential immunity when it comes to crimes, as federal judge Tanya Chutkin said.
But I just want to show you that everything we've showed you was Trump's words, right? This is what Trump is saying. This is what he's posted. These,
this is what he said. I'm not, I got passionate at times on this episode, of course, because
they're so infuriating, but at the end of the day, I just want to bring it back that here's the data.
Here's the facts. I don't want, want i'm not why am i trying to like
coddle and and baby this guy like like when when that makes us a loser country like when were we
and this is what biden says i think biden needs to work on this message a little bit but i know
what he i know where he's going he goes we're the're the United States of America. You know what Biden said?
We are the United States of America, damn it.
What he's also saying, I just think he should be blunt about it.
We're not this mega loser crap.
Just say it.
Just say it.
We're not losing.
This whiny, this crying, this complaining, this victimhood, this victim tour, this gaslighting, this loserville.
We are the United States of America. Damn it.
I'll leave you with that as we finish for today. Jordi, great episode with you again. We're excited
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