The MeidasTouch Podcast - UNDERCOVER RECORDING of Justice SURFACES from Event

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on the undercover audio recording of Supreme Court Justice Alito captured by pro-democracy reporter Lauren Windsor. Head to https://TryFum.com/legalaf and get a FREE GIFT with the JOURNEY PACK today when you use code LEGALAF Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/meidastouch Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Justice Alito caught on tape discussing how battle for America can't be compromised. In a new secret recording, the Supreme Court Justice says he agrees that the U.S. should return to a place of godliness. Justice Samuel Alito spoke candidly about the ideological battle between the left and the right, discussing the difficulty of living peacefully with ideological opponents in the face of fundamental differences that can't be compromised. He endorsed what his interlocutor described as a necessary fight to return our country to a place of godliness. And Alito offered a blunt assessment of how America polarization will ultimately be resolved, Rolling Stone writes. And then they quote him from this recording we're about to play. One side or the other is going to win, Justice Alito said. Now, Alito made these remarks in conversation at the Supreme Court Historical Society's

annual dinner on June 3rd, a function that is known to right-wing activists as an opportunity to buttonhole Supreme Court justices, the Rolling Stone writes. His comments were recorded by Lauren Windsor, a liberal pro-democracy documentary filmmaker. Windsor attended the dinner as a dues-paying member of the society under her real name, along with a colleague. She asked questions of the justice as though she were a religious conservative. Without further ado, let me play for you the undercover audio recording that Lauren Windsor got of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito. Play the clip. My name's Lauren. I met you last year. I think you already met. I don't remember. Okay. So, anyway, I wanted to tell you, my husband wanted to be here, but it asked him because he's saying, it's just like, make sure that you tell Justice Alito that, like, he's a

fighter, and we appreciate him, and he has all the grit, and I know it's got to be terrible what your family, what you and your family are going through right now so I'm just so sorry. Thank you. Thank you very much. And I'm sure you don't remember this at all but what I asked you about was about the polarization in this country.

About like how do we repair that risk? And considering everything that's been going on in the past year, as a Catholic and as someone who really cherishes my faith, I just don't know that we can negotiate with the left in the way that needs to happen for the polarization to end. I think that it's to happen for the polarization to end, I think that it's a matter of winning.

I think you're probably right. One side or the other is going to win. I don't know. There can be a way of living together peacefully, but it's difficult. Because there are differences on fundamental things that really can't be compromised. It really can't be compromised. So it's not like we're going to split the difference. And that's what I'm saying. I think that the solution really is winning the moral argument. People in this country who believe in God have got to keep fighting for that

to return our country to a place of godliness. I agree with you. Because we look at the decline of our society, the decline of the nuclear family, and liberals, I just feel like, want to see that happen and proliferate. And I think we've been too permissive to say, oh, you know, okay.

I understand the Constitution. I understand the Constitution. I understand my country. John Burnham, nice meeting you. Nice meeting you. Thank you. And you take care of it. Yes. I just want to ask you, too.

I want to be totally appropriate with, you know, the jurisprudence of it all, but just to be totally heated, how do we get America back to a place of really less polarization? Because I feel like the court is undergoing this period of turmoil. People don't trust in, I think, just the, like, this was, like, the last bastion of, I think, like, public trust. And, like, how do we get back to that?

I wish I knew. I don't know. It's easy to blame the media, but I do blame them. Because they do nothing but criticize us. And so they have really eroded trust in the courts. I don't know. I really don't know.

I mean, ordinary people, ordinary is a great word. American citizens in general need to work on this to try to heal this polarization because it's very dangerous. I do believe it's very dangerous. I think it's taking us to the brink of a very serious and perhaps

non-preparable risk to the country. I, for one, am someone like, I support your ruling on dogs i support like i am very polite but like you know i don't know how we bridge that gap you know like how do we get people i wish i knew i wish i knew i don't know's not... I don't think it's something we can do. But the court can't do anything.

I mean, we have a very defined role. We need to do what we're supposed to do. But this is a bigger problem. This is way above us. So I wish I knew the answer. I do. But you guys haven't been able to find the leaker? Pardon? The leaker. Are you guys being able to figure that out? It's hard. You know, you can't name somebody unless you know for sure. And we don't have the power to do the things that would be necessary to try to figure out, to nail down exactly what they did.

That's the problem. And even then, we might not be able to do it. to subpoena records phone records or other things like that. We don't have that authority. It just seems crazy that you can't because it's so detrimental to the trust the public

places when it's a different court. Yeah, well, we're not a law enforcement agency. People have certain rights to privacy, so law enforcement agencies can issue subpoenas and get search warrants and all that sort of thing, but we

can't do that, so you know, our marshal did as much as she could do and there was limits to that. So that was exhausting. She did what she could do. So that was exhausting. She did what she could do. Seriously, I just wanted to express my gratitude for everything. I appreciate it.

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tryfume.com, use code MIDAS or scan the QR code on screen to get a free gift with your order today. She also, Lauren Windsor also, then spoke to Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, who answered differently than what we just heard with Justice Samuel Alito, and I think perhaps more responsibly, but I'll leave that for you to decide. Here is the undercover audio recording that Lauren Windsor took of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts. Let's play the clip. It's a very tumultuous time in the country and I'm just curious, when you were first back there on the court, how do we start to repair the polarity? The first thing I think is to tell me when the non-tumultuous time has been here.

I mean, you look at the court, what the court was doing in the 60s, what the court was doing during the New Deal, what the court was doing after Dred Scott and all this. It's kind of a regular thing. People think it's so different and special. It's been pretty tumultuous for a long time. Vietnam- So you think this is a normal period? You know, I don't know if it's normal.

I mean, since I've been here all 20 years, there have been quieter times. But the idea that the court is in the middle of a lot of tumultuous stuff going on that's nothing new i guess i wouldn't say that it's not it's not like it's an innovative thing it's not new i guess i just i really feel like we're at a point in our country where the polarization is so extreme that it might be irreparable. I don't think that. I think it's extreme. It's like the Civil War. We did that during Vietnam. People were getting killed. I was there in Vietnam. This is all right. I mean, it's not all right, but it's not like it's as dramatically different

people as it is. It's a common thing. People with their own perspective think this is so extraordinary. I don't know. But you don't think there's like a role for the court in like guiding us toward a more moral path? No, I think the role for the court is deciding the cases. If I start, would you want me to be in charge of guiding us toward a more moral path? That's for the people we elect. That's not for lawyers. Well, I guess I just, I believe that the founders were godly, like, we're Christians, and I think that we live in a Christian nation, and that our Supreme Court should be guiding us in that path. Yeah, I don't know that we live in a Christian nation.

I know a lot of Jewish and Muslim friends who would say, maybe not, and it's not our job to do that. It's our job to decide the cases as best we can. I don't know if an op-ed is your type. Not at all. Thank you so much. Yeah, I actually think Justice John Roberts came off pretty good right there. John Harwood, like his reporting, he writes, Justice Samuel Alito,

whose job is dispassionate determination of the law on tape, saying that there are fundamental differences in American society that can't be compromised. How will that polarization be resolved? He says, one side or the other is going to win. Joyce Ellen says, if Justice Alito is making comments like this to a random person at a get-together, what is he saying to his close confidants? How is this impartial justice, especially when his votes rationale on cases are considered? This is a justice who believes the correct way to determine the law is via a strict appeal to history and tradition, even though both of those things assume a legal system where black people and women have no rights. He commented at a court historical society dinner,

not knowing he was being taped about the difficulty of living peacefully with ideological opponents in the face of fundamental differences that can't be compromised. He endorsed what his interlocutor described as a necessary fight to return our country to a place of godliness, and Alito offered a blunt assessment of how America's polarization will ultimately be resolved. One side or the other is going to win. Joyce continues to write, a statistic that stuck with me about Alito's jurisprudence is that an empirical analysis of the court's standing decisions found that Alito rules in favor of conservative litigants 100% of the time and against liberal litigants in every single case. Great work there, Lauren Windsor. She always does some of that great

audio recording work. Remember to follow her at law, at L-A-W-I-N-D-S-O-R. Follow her there. I'm Ben Micellis from the Midas Touch Network. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 3 million together. Love this video? Make sure you stay up to date on the latest breaking news and all things Midas by signing up to the Midas Touch newsletter at MidasTouch.com slash newsletter.