The MeidasTouch Podcast - Yikes! Melania Gives up as Donald’s Dark Past Surfaces

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Melania Trump caving after threatening lawsuits about Donald’s dark past as Meiselas shows it’s part of a broader pattern of the Trump’s caving when you stand up to them and challenge to take their depositions and take discovery. Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://TryMiracle.com/MEIDAS and use the code MEIDAS to claim your FREE 3 piece towel set and save over 40% OFF! Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While Melania Trump is folding as Donald Trump's dark past is surfacing, it is a tail we see repeated over and over again with these trumps. They're weak and pathetic. They huff and they puff. They threaten billion dollar lawsuits, but when you call their bluff, they fold. We saw Donald Trump do it with the lawsuit he filed against Michael Cohen. We saw Donald Trump do it recently with the lawsuit that he filed against the Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdo. where he demanded Murdoch's deposition and then pressed pause on that. And we see it with Melania. It was about a month ago where Melania sent a cease and desist letter to Hunter Biden. She said that I'm going to sue you, Hunter, for $1 billion if you don't issue a retraction and give me a public apology. Why?

Because she said that you falsely are claiming Hunter in these interviews with a YouTube channel called Channel 5 News. You're falsely claiming Hunter that Jeffrey Epstein was the one who introduced me to Donald Trump in the late 1990s. False, says Melania. It was a guy named Paulo Zampoli who ran a modeling agency with young Eastern European women who brought me to the United States through events at a club called the Kit Kat Club in Manhattan, where the young Eastern European women would meet the wealthy Manhattan businessman. that's how I met Donald through Zompoli and then I got my Einstein visa secured and I got expedited citizenship and the rest is history.

Do not mention that it was Epstein who made the introduction. Just ignore also all of the photos with Melania and Epstein and Donald Trump and Geelaine together. Ignore that everybody knew each other. She said it was defamatory to even say that Epstein made the introduction

between Melania and Donald Trump. And she said, apologize now, to which Hunter Biden said, go F yourself. I'm not apologizing to you. And then she goes, fine, that I'm going to sue you. Well, we're about a month since the threat. She has not filed the lawsuit against Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden said, oh, I can't wait to conduct discovery.

I want to know all about your relationship with Epstein, about Gilain, about all the things that you know about Donald, because you're going to waive a lot of privileges if you sue me. So I am ready to go. Let's take discovery on all of those issues, and she has yet to file a lawsuit. Now, as I said, this is a pattern with the Trumps. And by the way, I'm going to show you some clips of Donald Trump saying things about Melania

that I bet you haven't heard anywhere else, or at least for a very long time. But this is the pattern, right? You have Donald Trump threatening to sue Michael Cohen, and then sues Michael Cohen for $500 million. Cohen was a host at the Midas Touch Network at the time. I know very well that lawsuit. And so what did Michael Cohen do right after Donald Trump filed the lawsuit for $500 million?

Cohen said, okay, bet, I want your deposition. I'm ready to take it. Let's see you. Let's go. Trump filed it in the Southern District of Florida. And Cohen's like, let's go. I'll go to, I'll do it in Florida. party. You pick the location. Trump said, I need more time. I need more time. I'll give you a little

more time. Okay. Then, but let's schedule it. Then Trump says, I need more time. I'll give you a little bit more time. But we're going to take your deposition in the next month. And then Trump's like, I need a little bit more time. And then Trump's like, I'm not going to show. I'm campaigning. And then Cohen's like, you sued me. What do you mean you need more time? Cohen went to the federal judge. The federal judge ordered Donald Trump to have his deposition taken. Trump's like, I need a little bit more time. The federal judge said, okay, I'll give you a little bit more time than right before the deposition was set to take place. What did Donald Trump do? He dismissed the case. It's a pattern with these Trumps. If you stand up to them, if you confront them, they're just bullies. They huff and,

but they're weak people and they almost never have the facts on their side. Pretty much never. So then you had Donald Trump filed the dismissal right there, October 5th, 2023. Donald Trump, buying through undersigned counsel gives notice that pursuant to Rule 41A sub 1, he's voluntarily dismissing the action against Michael Cohen. Similarly, what just happened with Murdoch? Donald Trump sued the Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch for $10 billion. $10 billion. Rupert Murdoch said, okay, well, I'm ready to take your deposition as well.

Let's have your deposition. And then Donald Trump's like, I want your deposition. Rupert, Rupert's like, okay, you take my deposition, I take your deposition, then what happened? Join stipulation regarding plaintiff's motion to compel expedited deposition of Rupert Murdoch, and it says that Trump and the defendants all are agreeing with the following. Subject to the terms of the stipulation, together with a separately signed abatement agreement, which contains additional procedural details related to stipulation. plaintiff, meaning Trump, agrees to abate his pending motion to compel the deposition of

Rupert Murdoch, until defendant Rupert Murdoch's motion to dismiss is adjudicated, the parties agree not to engage in discovery. That means that Murdoch doesn't take Trump's deposition, Trump doesn't take Murdoch's deposition, and obviously behind the scenes, Trump lawyers are trying to work out something with Murdox lawyers in order to make this all go away. I predicted early on, like literally the day it happened that I thought that, you know, this lawsuit is about the birthday card that the Wall Street Journal said that Donald Trump sent Jeffrey Epstein for his like 50th birthday in the early 2000s.

And Donald Trump's like, I never sent that. No way I ever said that. That's defamatory. I'm suing you Wall Street Journal. Well, a few things. I always believe that the source of that leak was Gilane Maxwell in order to get Donald Trump's attention to then move her from the Tallahassee facility to Brian, Texas. I thought it was a warning shot from her camp that we have this and we know more. And she executed that plan.

Go back, I said it that day. But also, we know that book is in the possession of the Epstein estate. And we know Congress is going to get that book soon and we're going to see it. So we're going to see Donald Trump's. handwriting on it. We're going to see the card. We'll likely see drums name all over. And one of the things I also said is that like Donald, you're out there saying Epstein's a great guy who like women on the younger side. Mar-a-Lago was used as the grounds for child sex trafficking. I mean, you had Virginia Joufrey underage. I mean, a child was found at Mar-a-Lago, as you say,

stolen. So now you can argue you didn't know what was happening at Mar-a-Lago, but it's undisputed that Mar-a-Lago was used in some part of Epstein's sex trafficking scheme, Virginia Juffrey worked for you. That's how she worked at the spa. What was she, what was this girl, a little girl doing, working at the spa in the first place? And then Epstein and Delane Maxwell recruited her for sex trafficking from Mar-a-Lago. And then, of course, there were the parties you had with Epstein where you brought over 30 girls of indeterminate age as people who brought those girls there, alleged from beauty pageants instead that you were going to get him VIP modeling contracts, but it was just you and Epstein there. I mean,

So you think of all of the things that are defamatory is the birthday card, which never made sense. They're just a bunch of freaking bullies. And when you push back, they fold. The weather is heating up and your nighttime bedroom temperature has a huge impact on your sleep quality. If you wake up too hot or too cold, I highly recommend that you check out Miracle Maid's bedsheets. Miracle Maid sheets are inspired by NASA and use silver-infused fabrics that are temperature regulating so you can sleep at the perfect temperature all night long. Now, using those silver-infused fabrics inspired by NASA,

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to the level of defamation to begin with. But the fact of the matter is that this is about hundreds, if not, over a thousand minors, children who were raped by Jeffrey Epstein. And I don't believe in guilt by association alone, but the connections have become, they're so glaringly obvious that I think they're trying to use other things to distract. And I also think they're bullies, and they think that a billion dollars is going to scare me. which is the fact of the matter is that if they'd like to go, I have this to say to them, if they want to sit down for a deposition

and clarify the nature of the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein, if the president and the first lady want to do that and all of the known associates around them at the time of whatever time that they met, I'm more than happy to provide them the platform to be able to do it. Now, contrast that with you have James Carville

and the Daily Beast. they issued apologies to her. She then posted those apologies, and they were apologizing for saying that Michael Wolf had said that Epstein was the one who introduced them. Melania denies that. She says it's Paulo-Zon-Poli. It's totally false that Epstein made the introduction. I'm a litigator.

In my opinion, I'm not even sure why that would be a defamatory statement to people introducing somebody that they didn't say anything more than an introduction was was made so it was on polly versus this person so explain to me the the defamation there i mean you're in photos with epstein and trump you know and and and there's other things as well let me get to the other things too like uh donald trump when he went on howard stern he put milania on the phone with Howard Stern. And they talked about Melania being almost naked, inviting Howard Stern over, as Howard Stern said that he's taking his pants off. This is how Donald Trump treated in Melania. They're like, and what's her name? Something like Melania. This is how we treated her in

1999. This is the type of guy he is. Here, play this clip. I took a good deal with lots of lower taxes. Let me talk to that broad in your bed. I could almost have her talk to you. You could? Actually, she's outside in another room listening to the... What is she doing, actually? What is she wearing? I don't know. Maybe I should get her in.

Do you want me to get her in? Yeah, yeah. Let me talk to her first second. I'm going to talk to her. What's her name again? Melanie. It begins with an M. Hello?

Hey. Hi, how are you? You are so hot. Oh, thank you. I see pictures of you. I can't believe it. You're a dream. Oh.

You are so hot. Are you coming out with us? Yes, I am, baby. Let me tell you something. I want you to put on your hottest outfit. Okay, no problem. What are you going to wear? Oh, I don't tell you now. You will see.

Let me see this. What are you wearing right now? Not much. Now, Howard Stern then said in another interview with Donald Trump, let me give you a hypothetical. Would you stay with Melania if she was in a car accident and she lost her left arm and she was paralyzed? To which Trump said, I need to know what her breasts were like. If I was going to stay with her, what do her breasts look like after being in the car accident? Here, play this clip. I'm going to give you a hypothetical.

Go ahead. Melania is in a horrible car accident. Her body is fine, except for the fact that her left arm is paralyzed now. It's useless. It hangs there like a slab of meat. Right. How do the breasts look? The breasts are okay.

Okay, well, that's important. So that's out there. I mean, imagine what discovery of Melania would look like. Like, I want you all to remember this, too, because we covered this here in the Midas Touch Network, and it wasn't really covered anywhere else. When Donald Trump would give speeches at high schools during the campaign, He would talk about how he would bring up to Melania getting urinated on, getting peed on by hookers and saying, I never did that, Trump says. He says that he's not into golden showers.

And any rumor that he gets peed on by hookers and gets urinated on is false because he doesn't like germs. And he said, Melania can vouch for me. I don't like that. You're bringing Melania into this. And you said this at a high school. This was at a high school of this speech. Here, play this clip. He was with four hookers.

You think that was good that night to go up and tell my wife, it's not true, darling. I love you very much. It's not true. Actually, that one, she didn't believe, because she said he's a germaphobe. He's not into that, you know? He's not into golden showers, as they say they call it. He's not. I don't like that idea.

No, I didn't. I thought that would be a big problem. I was going to have a rough night. but that one she was very good on she said no and then finally um the most a recent clip as well um where michael wolf talks about how donald trump and epstein this is what he learned this is wolf's reporting that before milania kind of right before you know not right before milania but before milania trump and epstein shared a girlfriend together they would they would have this girlfriend and they would send her to one house, then back and forth. Not clear what the age was,

but they would send a girlfriend back and forth who they were both with at the same time. So what Wolf says, here play this clip. The birthday letter that Donald Trump apparently wrote for Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday and this idea that they shared a wonderful secret, what do you think he's referring to? I think that he is referring to the girlfriend that they shared at the, that point in time, 92, 93. So there was a woman, and as far as I know, she's not underage, but who they literally shared, who literally went back and forth between these two guys. And she went back and forth in the same bed with the two of them. Was it a threesome or she was

dating both of them separately? I don't I don't know the the mechanics. I know that during the same period and they openly this wasn't hidden from either one. They openly

shared this particular woman that she went out with both of them at the same time and two there and they both understood that. So there you have it again if milania trump if they have the goods let them sit and discover it's what really pissed me off about all these corporate news folding take trump's deposition i mean imagine

what the george stephenopolis deposition would be like where Donald trump sued stephenopolis in ABC because Donald Trump said i was only found liable for sexual assault not rape is what Donald Trump said. So you're defaming me. You're harming my reputation, Trump said, by Stephanopoulos saying that what took place at Bergdorf-Gubman was rape versus was digital penetration, sexual assault with a finger versus a penis. So what would that deposition be like? So you're arguing that you think that it's okay to engage in sexual assault with your finger, like that that didn't harm your reputation, but it harmed your reputation to imply it was a genital? I mean, That was that was the that was the that was Trump's case basically when he sued Stephanopoulos and

Stephanopoulos and ABC fold CBS uh folds in their loss to take the guy's deposition put him in front of you ask him questions the way we saw eugene carroll's lawyer do Trump can't stand that and you'll get out the truth and in a critical moment so to me even worse than those corporate news, sycophants, bootlicker settling, like even worse was that you didn't even take his deposition when you had the opportunity to push back at a time when Americans would have benefited from that. That's why if he ever comes for us, day one, deposition, day one deposition, sit for a freaking deposition. I want to take the deposition personally. Hit subscribe. Let's get to six million. Thanks for watching. Be sure to add the Midas Touch podcast on Apple

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