The MeidasTouch Podcast - Zelenskyy Kills Trump’s Plan and Strikes Back
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Ukrainian President Zelensky just said Donald Trump checkmate.
So after Ukraine and its European allies expose the Trump regime for laundering that
Russian 28-point plan for surrender and trying to force it on Ukraine.
And Ukraine said absolutely not.
Respect our sovereignty.
Rejected.
If you want peace, let's start with a ceasefire.
and let's do a real peace, not this Russian BS.
So what Zelensky did is he said, well, Whitkoff and Rubio and Kushner,
if you're meeting with the Russian proxies in Miami to launder surrender plans against us,
you know what we're going to do?
We're going to send the Ukrainian delegation where to Miami.
And let's do the meeting in the same spot where you tried to sell us out.
We're sending the Ukrainian delegation there.
So Zelensky sends his Ukrainian delegation to Miami to meet with Whitkoff Donald Trump's envoy to Russia, the main guy trying to sell out Zelensky.
You had Kushner and you had Rubio there.
Now, just take a look right here at Whitkoff's face at this meeting in Miami that took place over this weekend.
He looked like a defeated man who had been caught and exposed.
Just take a look at him there.
His head was down the entire time.
was fidgeting with his tie. Take a look at Marco Rubio as he knew. He could even look at the
Ukrainian delegation at first because he knew that they caught the Americans betraying them.
Take a look at Kushner who's probably just thinking, now how can I make money off this? How do I get
even richer off of this? Take a look at this scene right here. You see the Ukrainian delegation
sitting across from Whitkoff and Rubio and Kushner right there. You see the Ukrainian delegation
and strong, powerful, supremely confident.
You see how sheepish and weak Trump's stooges are sitting there.
Now, let me just show you right here,
but I like how John Jackson discusses this.
He goes, I've dealt with a lot of bad, guilty people in my life.
Wittkoff looks like a guy who got exposed in front of the whole world.
I love this for him.
I bet he looks great in orange, and there's certainly more recordings out there.
Enjoy.
Watch what happens during this.
meeting in Miami on Sunday between the Ukrainian delegation and Trump's Stooges who were there.
Here, play this clip.
There, but the progress throughout the week as we've been communicating, the end goal is obviously,
not just the end of the war, obviously, that's essential and fundamental.
We want to see the end of the killing and the death and the suffering, and I'm sure the
Ukrainians, I know they do as well, they want peace.
But it's also about securing an end to the war that leaves Ukraine sovereign and independent
and with an opportunity at real prosperity.
So this is not just about ending a war.
This is about ending a war in a way that creates a mechanism in a way forward that will allow them to be independent and sovereign, never have another war again, and create tremendous prosperity for its people.
Not just rebuild the country, but to enter an era of extraordinary economic progress.
It's a country with Ukraine has tremendous economic potential.
Ukraine has tremendous opportunity for true prosperity.
Obviously, you can't do that in the middle of a war like this, but ending the war alone won't achieve that.
So this is not just about peace deals.
It's about creating a pathway forward that leaves Ukraine, sovereign, independent, and prosperous.
And so we expect to make even more progress today.
And we're grateful to travel all the way here to Florida.
We apologize for the rain.
It's not supposed to be raining, but there's only certain things we can control.
So thank you.
And I think a point that John Jackson says that isn't getting enough attention,
whichever intelligence service, whether it was Ukrainian or European, that got the
phone calls that did that wiretap between Witkoff and the Russian proxies, whether it was
with Demetriev and the other Russian proxy, there's a lot more where those tapes come from right
there. And you know that the intelligence services are sitting on a lot of dirt on Whitkoff right
now. And I think Whitkoff is probably wondering, what else do they have on me? What are their phone calls?
what other emails, what other messages.
They have it all, Whitkoff.
They have it all.
Now, following the meeting that I just showed you right there,
Zelenskyy put out the following message.
The Ukrainian delegation should already be in the United States
by this evening, U.S. time.
The dialogue based on the Geneva points will continue.
Diplomacy remains active.
The American side is demonstrating a constructive approach,
and in the coming days, it is feasible
to flesh out the steps to determine
how to bring the war to a dignified end.
The Ukrainian delegation as the necessary directives, and I expect the guys to work in accordance with clear Ukrainian priorities.
Then after the meeting took place, Zelensky posted the following.
Russia is eager for Ukraine to make mistakes.
We won't make any.
Our work goes on.
Our struggle goes on.
We have no right to fall short, no right to retreat or turn on one another.
If we lose our unity, we risk losing everything ourselves.
Ukraine and our future. We must stand together. We must hold our ground. There is no other choice.
There will never be another Ukraine. We defend Ukraine. Glory to Ukraine. Now, right before that meeting
in Miami between the Ukrainian delegation and Whitkoff Rubio and Kushner, the Wall Street
Journal was out with another report called Make Money Not War. Trump's real plan for peace in Ukraine
or betrayal of Ukraine.
The Kremlin pitched the White House
on peace through business.
In other words, sell out NATO,
sell out Ukraine,
and Donald, maybe Russia will make you
and your family richer.
To Europe's dismay,
the president and his envoy were on board.
Let me just share with you
how this article starts right here.
For the Kremlin,
the Miami talks between the Russians
and Wittkopf and Kushner
were the culmination of a strategy.
hatched before Trump's inauguration to bypass the traditional U.S. national security apparatus
and convince the administration to view Russia not as a military threat, but as a land of bountiful opportunity,
according to Western security officials, by dangling multi-billion dollar rare earth and energy deals,
Moscow could reshape the economic map of Europe while driving a wedge between America and its traditional ally.
So Putin promised, oh, we've got trillions of dollars for you, Donald, and we'll make you even richer.
And then Putin said, and why don't we help with some propaganda initiatives?
We can go to the moon together. Donald, we can build on the moon together.
Wouldn't you like, wouldn't you like that now?
So after the meeting, or right around when that meeting is taking place in Miami between the Ukrainian delegation and Trump Stooges,
you have Zelensky put out the following message as well.
I spoke with Mark Rut, Secretary General of NATO.
We'll continue our conversations in the coming days.
These are important days and much can change.
We are coordinating closely.
And in our efforts and in the efforts of all of our partners,
it is our joint measures and shared positions that will be extremely effective.
Mark, thank you for your support.
In other words, you have a multi-prong effort right here
where Zelensky sends his delegation to go to Miami.
It's symbolic as well.
That's where you try to betray us. Donald, okay, we're going to assert our moral and formal and
international authority. Where in Miami, Whitkoff, show up, man up, look at us, eye to eye.
And Whitcomb's like, oh, I'm not sure what to do. Rubio, look us in the eye.
Kushner, whatever the hell you're going to do, you were selling us out as well.
Then the phone call to the Secretary General of NATO informing NATO what Ukraine just did with
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Notice that Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, takes a very different tune.
Because one of the things that Ukraine's been doing great is also, there's already a wedge, by the way, between Rubio and Whitkoff.
Whitkoff did this 28-point Russian plan behind the back of Rubio.
Not to suggest that Rubio isn't complicit, but that was behind the back of Rubio.
So Whitkoff and Kushner did that with the Russians in Miami.
Ruby found out about it later.
Rubio tried to fix what Widkoff did basically
after destroying any shred of whatever American
may have left with its allies, which is basically nothing.
So then Rubio goes out, and now Rubio talks about this meeting.
Now watch how Rubio changes the tune on Ukraine.
Play this clip.
All right, and I apologize because I'm pressed for time.
I think we both are, but I just wanted to update you.
We had another very productive session, building off Geneva, building off the events of this week.
As I told you earlier this morning, our goal here is to end the war, but it's more than just to end the war.
We don't just want to end the war.
We also want to help Ukraine be safe forever, so never again will they face another invasion.
And equally importantly, we want them to enter an age of true prosperity.
We want the Ukrainian people to emerge from this war, not just to rebuild their country, but to build it back in a way that will be stronger and more prosperous than it's ever been.
And so this is comprehensive what we're working on here today.
It's not just about the terms that ends fighting.
It's about also the terms that set up Ukraine for long-term prosperity.
I thought we started laying the groundwork for that, most certainly in Geneva.
I think we continued that work in our communications throughout the week.
I think we've built on that again today, but there's more work to be done.
This is delicate, it's complicated.
There are a lot of moving parts, and obviously there's another party involved here that they'll have to be a part of the equation.
And that'll continue later this week when Mr. Whitkoff travels to Moscow.
although we've also been in touch to varying degrees with the Russian side,
but we have a pretty good understanding of their views as well.
So much work remains, but today was, again, a very productive and useful session.
And then what we saw on the weekend shows is that some of the Republican leaders in the House
and in the Senate, but also in the House in the Senate, like Republican Congress member Mike Turner,
Republican Congress member Don Bacon.
they were on the weekend shows and they were basically speaking out against Whitkoff,
speaking out against the Trump regime's policies against or policies relating to Ukraine.
So here is a Republican Congress member Don Bacon.
Here's what he had to say.
Play this clip.
And we heard this week from Vladimir Putin saying that it would be pointless.
That was his word, at least that was the translation of his word.
it would be pointless to make a peace agreement with Ukraine
because Zelensky's government lacks legitimacy.
I mean, where could this go?
Again, we need moral clarity dealing with Putin.
He does not want a peace agreement with Ukraine
that leaves Ukraine a sovereign country
that can be allied with the West
that can be part of the EU and free markets.
He wants to control another third of Ukraine.
he would like to make Ukraine
a vassal state. So I don't know why
the administration keeps pursuing
the pointless here. But yet
we see the Wall Street Journal that there's evidence
it's all about trying to make agreements
on rare earth minerals and
natural gas pipelines and things
like that of what
Ukraine has no part of in this.
And so
Putin does not want peace.
The president should see it.
And therefore, we should be focused on
giving high end weapons
accurate weapons to Ukraine, long-range accurate weapons,
and also air defenses that help protect their cities
that are being bombed every single night.
We need a little more Ronald Reagan here,
as you mentioned his name.
When he called the Soviet Union an evil empire,
this president also needs to see the evil intentions of Putin,
but he needs to call it out and see it for what he is.
And here is what Republican Congress member Mike Turner
had to say about whether we,
Whitkov should continue to serve as a U.S. negotiator in Ukraine. Let's play this clip right here.
But, you know, one thing that I think everybody understands is that you can't have, you can't be America first and pro-Russia because, you know, Russia has, is a self-declared adversary of the United States.
It's fielding, you know, new advanced nuclear weapons that are specifically targeting the United States.
It's constantly attacking the United States with offensive.
cyber. It continuously identifies both NATO and the West, the United States, as its adversary.
So in this, and of course when it identifies Ukraine as its adversary, it does so in identifying
the West and the United States as its adversary. You have to understand that the balance of
this peace arrangement has to be one where you have to look at Russia as a skeptical adversary.
And while all of this is taking place, what I don't want to
to ever forget is the terrorism being committed by the Russians on a daily basis against
innocent Ukrainians.
I don't want to forget the torture and the killing of innocent civilians that Russia is engaged
in every damn day in Ukraine.
This isn't a both sides issue, okay?
We need to stand behind Ukraine and recognize that Russia is the bad guy.
This should be very simple.
As you heard some of those Congress members even say,
Russia is a sworn enemy of the United States.
So wake the hell up Trump regime
because you're selling out the United States
to an enemy of the United States in Putin.
But I want you to watch this before we go.
This is a family in Kiev sharing the same sounding videos
every damn night they share a video like this
because civilians are being targeted
while Russia conducts its human safari hunting
of civilians.
with drones and ballistic missiles
and this and other parts of the country
also hat tip to Olga Nesterova
who does a very good job aggregating
these clips and covering all things Ukraine
here play this clip.
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