The Michael Knowles Show - Daily Wire Backstage: 2020 State of the Union Edition

Episode Date: February 5, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Michael Knowles here, and do I have a treat for you? The latest episode of Daily Wire backstage is right around the corner, and you do not want to miss it. Join me, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Claven, and the God King Jeremy Boring, as we discuss the latest news and cultural events, all while enjoying some fine whiskey and cigars. It is going to be all that and more. Take a listen. A funny thing happened on the way to the caucus. Sixty two percent of the total is now in, and we have official results with the popular vote. That's who people actually like. The actual audience we're talking about here. We have in first place, Ben Shapiro, with 1.5 million somethings. In second place, we have Andrew Claven with considerably less something. And in third place, we have Michael Knowles with just barely anything at all. Clearly, the winner of all of our delegates, Elisha Krauss. Elisha, tell us how people can get their questions in. I'm actually really annoyed because I would expect this from Michael.
Starting point is 00:00:55 But when Ben told me, we were all going to dress up like Supreme Court justices. I believed him. Really, guys? Golly. All right, let me just RBG it up over here. She will be there tonight, right? She's not skipping like AOC. So for our subscribers watching at home,
Starting point is 00:01:12 if you want to ask the guys' questions, just head on over to dailyware.com and navigate to the show's page at the top, click on backstage, and then type in your questions into the chat box next to the video. Another special perk for our subscribers is this kind of AMA thing that we do every once in a while with our writers and editors and all of the talent here.
Starting point is 00:01:30 It's called Discussion, and that's only available to subscribers, and it's going to be lots of fun. You can ask me how annoyed I am with Ben and where Michael is, because we still don't know, allegedly with Ted Cruz smoking cigars in D.C., I don't know. But only subscribers get to ask the questions. So if you're not a subscriber, you can become one tonight and get those questions, and we'll be taking all of your questions after President Trump's State of the Union address. Thank you, E. Alicia, and thank you to everybody watching at home. We're sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Listen, we don't control the fact that the American democratic system has fallen into complete ruin and disrepair. And now the president stands up like a monarch for three to seven hours and talks on and on and on and on while he's booed, his cheered, walked out on or Instagramed about in the case of AOC denied who's not actually going to attend the state of the union. She's just going to, it's very serious, very somber, very personal decision. She'll be on Instagram talking about it there. We don't control it. None of us like the state of the union, but what we do like is watching it with you. And talking about the Iowa caucus, mostly because we love to say the word caucus. It is one of the greatest words in politics.
Starting point is 00:02:38 How does the Iowa caucus work? I used to think that I was a political novice because I didn't know. It turns out it just means I'm a Democrat. We're going to talk about all of that and more. But first, we're going to talk about our friends over at stamps.com. Stamps.com, one of the great sponsors of our backstage show and one of the great efficiency builders in your life. If you like the three of us and Michael, don't like going to the post office, but unlike the three of us, you have no Michael to make go to the post office. You are
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Starting point is 00:04:53 Tell us about it. Thank you very much. I am co-hosting the number one show as of two days ago. We had the number one podcast for a week. Unfortunately, Joe Rogan has come back and overtaken us, but it's the verdict with Ted Cruz. We've been covering every single night. The senator comes over from the Capitol. He comes to a bunker that we have somewhere in Washington.
Starting point is 00:05:14 We stay up all night talking about the impeachment. It's a lot of fun, and it made me think, with all the conspiracy theories going around with the Iowa caucuses and all this craziness with the Democratic ballot. counting. I did have to wonder if it was Ben who orchestrated this entire impeachment hoax just to get me 3,000 miles away on the other side of America. If we could keep you there permanently, that would be fantastic. I also did ask for a mute button for this television. Unfortunately, it was not provided for me. You know, I would like to point out, we've got some pretty amazing
Starting point is 00:05:46 technology that allows me to beam in. My cigar smoke is coming off of the TV at the Daily Wire in L.A. and the Democrats can't even get an Excel spreadsheet together to count some votes in Iowa. So this is like the best week ever, right? I mean, like the Iowa caucuses are just spectacular. This was great because I will admit to you that leading up to covering the Iowa caucuses, I was not a happy camper because the leading contenders are all of my least favorite human beings, right? It was Bernie Sanders, who's an actual communist, like an actual 1930s. Oh, that's just a perjordive that you use because he's a communist.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Right. I will say, it is maddening and unbelievable to me that no one in the media sees fit to ask Bernie Sanders, why he says that he has the same, he's said this, that he has the same belief system now that he had in 1963, right? This is his selling point is that he has never changed at all. And in 1976, when he was my age, right, because Bernie Sanders has been an adult for one million years. Okay, so in 1976, when he was my age, I'm 35, he was, I'm 36, he was 35 then. He said he wanted to nationalize the energy industry, all of the major banks and every major industry in the United States. And no one has asked him, I think one person asked him,
Starting point is 00:06:47 so what was the deal with that? And he was like, well, I was mayor of Burlington and I didn't do it, right, because you're mayor of Burlington. You get nationalized as mayor of Burlington. And you're just calling, you're saying that he's a socialist, I guess that if you just mean that he believes that the working man deserves to do better, then yeah, he's a socialist. Yeah, this formulation makes me want to vomit so hard and never stop vomiting. Like my stomach lining comes up. Every time he does that, if my socialist, you mean that I would like puppies to have a
Starting point is 00:07:12 life of the owner, then yes, I'm a socialist. It's like, no, that's not what I mean. I mean, I mean, you ask. But in any case, Bernie. I like that he just bleeped the hole that's usually how it works on our side. I'm not sure he figured this out. In any case, I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So in any case, I thought it was going to be, the story's going to be Bernie, who is just an awful human being, or Elizabeth Warren, who may be an even more awful human being because she pretends to be Bernie but doesn't actually believe it. So think about how awful you have to be, to pretend to be Bernie Sanders, right? You don't actually believe the bull crap he believes. It's just that you want to be him. When you're used to pretending to be something you're not,
Starting point is 00:07:51 as Elizabeth Warren is. I think it just kind of comes out before you think about it. And then it was Pete Buttigieg who pretended to be a moderate, but in reality just hates people who believe in the Bible and wants to see them all burn in hell and makes this absolutely clear. And it calls everybody who disagrees with him a racist. Like, this is his thing. So the story was going to be that one of these great minds wins.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And I was kind of ticked about that because reality, if I had to pick among the awful Democrats, I would obviously be Amy Klobuchar, who, number one, physically beats people of binders. And number two is actually not completely insane. and Joe Biden, who's a corpse, right, and would do minimal damage to the country because he's dead. I feel like the founding vision of the presidency
Starting point is 00:08:27 is almost perfectly embodied in Joe Biden as president. This is right. It's a guy who they can occasionally wheel out to sign something that was passed by the legislature. Right. And they wouldn't have a state of the union, right? They would wheel him out and they just have a letter pinned to his chest. And then they'd just wheel him back.
Starting point is 00:08:43 It would be fantastic. The state of the union is, creesh, creesh, please, please. So I was not expecting the Iowa caucuses to be terrible because I was expecting all the people who I didn't want to win to win. We'd have to hear about how Bernie was going to be the nominee. It was going to be awful. And then the light of God shone down.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And the Iowa caucus end up being a complete and utter cluster F. And at this point, you have to wonder. You do. You have to wonder. Did Donald Trump at some point cut a deal with Satan? Because the man has an unbroken streak of luck. Like, nothing I've ever seen. Now, for all this other stuff, I'm willing to hear the 4D chess, 5D chess,
Starting point is 00:09:16 underwater upside down, hungry, hungry hippo's theory of how Donald Trump is manipulate. things. But you are going to have to explain to me how Donald Trump made the Democrats implode their own caucuses in Iowa. Maybe it was by adding Kansas City. The devil went down to Wharton looking for a soul to steal and he laid a golden toilet on the ground
Starting point is 00:09:33 at Donald's feet. And Donald looked at him. It's unbelievable. I mean, my going theory was that by adding the city of Kansas City to the state of Kansas, he had somehow thrown off magnetic alignment in that part of the country because, of course, Iowa is just north of Missouri. So maybe by depriving Missouri of
Starting point is 00:09:50 Kansas City. He had somehow thrown things off and it screwed up the app. But it just reveals, it really just reveals the simple truth about Donald Trump, that no matter how bad Donald Trump is or no matter what you think of him, the Democrat Party is worse and has always been worse. And it's not like they keep saying, oh, he's corrupt. Really? This is the Democrat Party of Chicago. In Chicago, they're now hauling Congress, people away by, you know, under the arms. It's like the Keystone cops are arresting the politicians in Chicago en masse. But here's the wonderful thing, right? Because the rips on Trump that they were going to use are one that he's evil, which, I mean, He's Trump, right?
Starting point is 00:10:20 I mean, like, come on. And two, that he is corrupt, which they tried with this Ukraine thing. That didn't really work. And also Hunter Biden. I mean, like, seriously, like, you be. Right. But their final, the final arrow in their quiver was one, that kind of you could see, right, which is that it's chaos over there, right?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Like, it's chaos inside the White House and it's incompetence, and he doesn't know what he's doing. And sure, some good things are happening, but it's complete bad shittery. And so why would, let's put someone sober and competent. I would have said bleep shittery. Okay, I'm confused about the rule. guys, I'm confused about the rule. And so instead, just to counter the final quiver, the final arrow in their quiver, which is that he's incompetent and it's all chaotic, they decide that they are going to take a process that involves a grand total of 170,000 votes. More people will watch
Starting point is 00:11:04 this broadcast tonight live than voted in Iowa last night. And we will handle all of them. They will come to the site and we'll handle them. It will be fine. Can I be a lot, can I be since I know that Ben will not point that no matter how long the show goes and it looks like it's going to be about seven hours, no matter how long goes, Ben will never point. out that this has been the greatest, January, it's now February, January was the greatest month in presidential history. I have never seen a president with as many successes as Donald Trump had in January, in one month. A record stock market, a record stock market, a record stock money. Solemony. Sollamone was a huge one. A huge win. The peace plan, the Middle East peace plan was
Starting point is 00:11:39 fantastic. The Middle East peace plan, two trade deals, which, you know, is something. No, there's a good. I mean, it's better than nothing. This is all in one month. And didn't get impeached, just like every other present in American history. So that means that by the Trump affirmative action standard, that's like the best month ever. That's a pretty good month. That's a pretty good month for a president. No, I mean, in the Gallup poll, right? I mean, he's up to 49%. And the other
Starting point is 00:12:01 poll, 63% approval on the economy. No one's beating him this way. And people are happier with race relations than they've been, with security than they've ever been. I mean, it's amazing. Michael, your... Breaking down in Iowa, right? I'm not exaggerating how well he's... Race relations are breaking down in Iowa, though. Democrats are very angry. They realize that everybody is white. And so
Starting point is 00:12:17 now all the white people are trying to determine who's the most white. It's like shades of white, right? They've got like fluorescent, eggshell, they've got French vanilla. And they're all arguing amongst each other because there's a real race crisis in Iowa. I think we're actually missing the biggest news out of Iowa, which is that Bill Weld finished third. And I thought he was a shoe in to finish second. Michael, we're talking here about impeachment. You know more about impeachment than any of us because you've been boots on the ground there with Senator Cruz. Talk to us a little bit just about the insights that you're getting, hearing from the Senator coming straight out every night.
Starting point is 00:12:51 The most interesting thing about impeachment to me is how nobody has their act together whatsoever. So I went into this thing, just assuming that everybody kind of had a plan and it was all going to play out, but it was prescripted, no big deal. No, it turns out the U.S. Senate has absolutely no coordination whatsoever, and it's just happening in real time. So Senator Cruz is telling this story of they show up and they're listening to these droning speeches and they're so boring.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Adam Schiff makes a mistake. Adam Schiff gives the Senate Republicans an opening. We don't need to go into it now because it gets very complicated. But then Cruz jumps up. He runs into the cloak room. He's trying to cut a deal with a couple other senators in there. They come back out. Elizabeth Warren asks a stupid question.
Starting point is 00:13:33 That gives another opening. That irritates Lisa Murkowski. Lisa Murkowski decides she's not going to vote for witnesses. Like it's all playing out in real time. And it actually made me feel kind of good about politics. One, because I don't think that the U.S. government is competent enough to tyrannize us. But two, it made me feel good because it really means that individuals do matter and that these speeches and these machinations and these deals really do affect politics. I mean, we saw this play out in Iowa just the other night where, you know, the Democrats accused President Trump of every manner of evil.
Starting point is 00:14:05 But it turns out the Democrats have done it even worse. They accused Trump of stealing the general election in 2016. The Democrats couldn't wait one caucus before they stole one of the states. Mayor Cheat Buttig. RBC Training Ground has discovered potential in over 20,000 Canadian athletes and county. Your story could be next. If you've got the drive, they'll help you find your path to the Olympics. Let's see what you've got.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Sign up for free at rbc trainingground.ca. It is true, right? Like, Pete Buttigieg, they've got 60% reporting happening right now in Iowa. That's all the people, right? It's like the Democratic 3-5th rule. They've announced these results, which are built to take wind out of Bernie Sanders. We were talking last time we were together. They're going to have to come with new ways to cheat Bernie this time because they burn the boats after they cheated him last time.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And they're doing it. They're coming up with new ways to cheat the guy. Is it? He should get used to socialism. That's what it's like. Yeah, he didn't grease the right palms. Do we think that it's possible that the Democratic Party will be so fractured by this, primary that they don't unite or is Trump the great
Starting point is 00:15:20 uniter, no better who they were. No, and so the secret of the dirty secret of the Iowa caucuses that no one really wants to talk about. It's been buried. There's been three layers of coverage because the turnout sucked. So they were expecting this to be, they were expecting this to be like an all-time turnout, like 300,000 people show up in Iowa. Two hundred forty thousand
Starting point is 00:15:36 people showed up for Obama in 2008. This time is 170,000 which despite population increases in the state is the same number as 2016, which means no one showed up. The fact is enthusiasm on the Democratic side is not nearly as high, It's high in L.A., right? We're in L.A., so it feels really high. In New York, it's really high. In D.C., it's really high. In the middle of the country, nobody's sitting up nights thinking about President Trump, and that was perfectly obvious in Iowa. And that is a serious problem for them. Because what it really means is that if Bernie does not get the nomination for any reason. Because Bernie will come away with the most votes. He's going to win the most votes in New Hampshire. If he comes away for any reason, competitive with Joe Biden or Michael Bloomberg, or it goes to a broker convention and he has a plurality of the votes, but not a majority of the votes. Because people will walk. They're not going to stick around and watch him get jobed at third time. I mean, the man might not live to run again when he's 84.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I mean, he can only run. I said to Drew before the show, though. Bernie should be an inspiration for Drew. Drew's been mostly useless for only 50 years of his adult life. He's still got 10 years to be useless and then run for president. That's right. This thing about the turnout, though, is huge. It is a big deal because all we've heard, the anger, the fury of the Democrat Party has been overwhelming and the fury of the media.
Starting point is 00:16:43 But the people, you know, what do they think? They're going to go back to the good old days where Ma and Paul sat on the porch and watched the factory closed. It's not that good for the Democrats in the Midwest. Did you over hear the conversation that happened in New Hampshire the other day? John Kerry, Thurston Howell III, John Kerry was caught on camera, or on the phone, rather, saying that the party's falling apart and they're following Bernie Sanders off a cliff, and maybe he has to run again. John Kerry got clobbered in 2004 by George W. Bush. That would be like saying. What I like is that then later that day, he put out a tweet saying that it was absolutely
Starting point is 00:17:18 thing untrue, and then he deleted the tweet because his entire presidential strategy is flip, flop. Is that joke like 20 years too old? Listen, I'm not a young man, but I am too young to run for president in 2020. If you are a candidate running for president in 2020, not named Pete Buttigieg or Andrew Yang, you should go to policy genius because you are almost dead. It doesn't matter if you're running right or left. Everyone running for president in this election is 70 plus.
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Starting point is 00:19:38 your best price and apply at policygenius.com. Policy genius, we get the future wrong. We should get our life insurance right. Go over to policy genius.com. and we're going to be watching tonight with you the state of the union. President Trump, what we believe is going to be the greatest show, probably in the history of the republic. President Trump, less than 24 hours after watching the Democrats collapse in Iowa, and 24 hours before being acquitted in the Senate for impeachment is going to stand in front of a joint session of Congress and tell them something. I've got to say that I've hated this impeachment story. from the beginning. I thought it was a sham. I think
Starting point is 00:20:18 everything Trump said about it. It's a hoax. It's ridiculous. And I resented having to talk about it. I resented having to talk about the guy who is doing a good job as president. You can pick on him for a lot of things, and that's fine. But to talk about what he said to the president of Ukraine was nonsense. But I got to
Starting point is 00:20:34 admit, watching him give the State of the Union while he's still on trial is kind of dramatic and fun. I mean, I totally agree with this. So I hate, I mean, I've given the speech. We've all given the speech, I think, a a thousand times. The State of the Union is a monarchic garbage institution. We should go back to writing letters to Congress and be done with it. Because it's ridiculous. The executive branch is not superior to the legislative branch. In fact,
Starting point is 00:20:52 it's kind of the opposite in the Constitution in terms of delegated powers. The treatment of the president is though he's the king is disgusting. But putting all of that aside, watching Donald Trump going to a room of people who hate him is spectacular. Oh, yeah. Spectacular drama. And watching, I'm sorry, the Democrat women are still doing this like we're going to wear white thing in honor of the suffragists. I thought they did that last year, because it was like the 100-year anniversary of the amendment that allowed women to vote. Why don't the Republicans just show up in their union uniform? Did we not?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Like from 1864. Remember that time we freed the slaves and you all you Democrats were made for the slavery? Remember there? Nothing this week. The Democrats are racist and they think that white is better than black. So they have to wear white to show how great they are. I also want to offer a counterpoint here to Ben, because I agree. Yes, it is irritating that we treat the president like a king.
Starting point is 00:21:40 It used to bother me so much. after the past few weeks of the House Democrats droning on trying to rip up our Constitution, I want Trump to go full Charles II. I want him to use the state of the union, dissolve the whole Congress, declare himself king for life. I will say that I'm now going to cut against my normal advice to the president.
Starting point is 00:22:00 So normally I say things in this situation like, don't be a tool and also don't be a tool. And if you could avoid it, like just don't get up there and be a tool. Seriously, like, yeah, 49% approval rating, 63% approval on the economy. The Democrats are falling apart in front of your face. Just play it safe and be normal. Like, go up there, be on teleprompter. You know what, screw it. Because the time has come. The time has come. If ever it was time for Twitter Trump to make an appearance at the state of the union, today is that day. And if he does not take a massive dump all over them and just mention Iowa 173 times and call out
Starting point is 00:22:31 pencil-neck shift and crazy Nancy, if he doesn't go after crazy Chuck, and if he doesn't yell at the Democrats and make fun of AOC for being at home playing with the instant pot while, Instagramming, then what do we pay for? I mean, what are we even doing here if he's not going to do that? Seriously. Adam Schiff will get an ovation tonight from the Democrats, right? Trump will have to say his name and the Democrats will give him a standing ovation. Well, I don't know why Trump will have to say his name. Yeah, why should he say his name? Why Trump says his name? When I say Donald Trump will have to say his name, I mean, because Donald Trump is Trump and he will not be in the template. I think you're selling him short. I think he's
Starting point is 00:23:02 going to get up and give a quiet optimism. I agree. And then go home at three o'clock. I'm doing some stupid stuff. We were talking about this earlier. Donald Trump is the only person in who buys back his not mistake. Right? Everybody else, you make a mistake and then you're like, oh, God, I can't believe I did that? Can I buy that back in some way? Donald Trump is the only person who does something perfectly normal. And two hours later, he's like, I shouldn't have done that.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Got to go after it, man. You only live once. Donald Trump is the guy who, when he's driving home and he thinks of the comeback that he should have used at the party. Yeah, she drives back. Rush Limbaugh, by the way, is in the audience, which is a cool thing. They didn't bring Rush to the State of the Union. He's giving me the Medal of Freedom, right? Which is great, which is well-deserved.
Starting point is 00:23:40 here come the members of the Supreme Court, and we have to pretend we like those guys. But they're not going to pretend that they like the president. First of all, it is hilarious to me that we treat these people as, like, honored guests. Like, I know Elena Kagan, right? She was dean of the law school when I was there, and she's just a human. Like, the way that we treat the Supreme Court justice is as though they are, as though they have been invested with all the power and dignity of the office, and they know all and are all lies.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I like it better when they fall asleep at the State of the Union and make faces at the president and stuff. Like, what we have learned in the last couple of months is what people who watch already know. This is never House of Cards. It's Veep. So let's treat this thing like Veep, right? I mean, it's all a joke and it's all a ridiculous spectacle. And I'm really just hoping the president gets up there and literally just takes his microphone and throws it to people. I mean, like, let's just go full WWE.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Tags in Mike Pence. Mike Pence jumps in from the rafters from the top rope, Mike Pence. Let's just do it right. Come on. I got to say, just the way Washington imagine. I was genuinely sad about Rush Limbaugh. I was genuinely sad about Rush Limbaugh. That guy, way to kill the joke there, Drew.
Starting point is 00:24:36 But yeah, no, we're all, no, we're all, just to stop for a minute, you know. Because, I mean, none of us would be here if it weren't for him. That's right. He just did so much for this country, really for the country. I mean, I grew up listening to Rush. I mean, I think everybody who's a conservative of my generation grew up in the car listening to Rush because it was before the Internet, really, and before you could listen to podcast or anything.
Starting point is 00:24:54 My first exposure to conservative thought was Rush Limbaugh. Yeah. My dad introduced me to Rush Limbaugh when I was maybe 14, 15 years old. We used to listen to him in the car together. I mean, unbelievably talented broadcaster. And a populist version of Willie Nuff Buckley, by which I just mean that he was able to reach a crowd that Buckley was never able to reach. I mean, Buckley was speaking up here, and Rush was speaking kind of for the common man, and that's a pretty impressive thing. And we shouldn't talk about him like
Starting point is 00:25:16 he's gone. No, he's not. Perfectly well, you know, there. And he's going to, with the help of God, you know, hopefully he'll be in recovery soon. And we know, Rush doesn't get enough credit, too, because, you know, you compare him to Buckley. He and Buckley were actually friends. Obviously, they were speaking in different ways on different media. But I loved in Rush's statement when he gave the announcement, he said, you know, I really don't like talking about myself. And this struck a lot of people as odd because he says, you know, I have talent on loan from God. I do it with half my brain tied behind my back. It's not. That's right. And it's the joke. He said, he said, you know, I don't talk about
Starting point is 00:25:49 myself unless it's satiric and parodic. And, you know, I have this relationship with God. I'm leaning on it more now than I used to, but I just wanted to let you know because I respect the audience. And he always respects his audience. He never refers to his fans. He always refers to his listeners. And I think that respect is why he gets so much love back. And we know since reality is conservative, we know God listens to a show to get his ideas. So we have a lot of hope for him. Yeah, we also know with Rush Limbaugh that the response on Twitter yesterday is the most vitriolic hate-filled garbage that I've ever seen. On a platform ordinarily known for its poised civility, I read things, people's reactions to Rush Limbaugh yesterday, and I was actually embarrassed for people.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I think. I just feel like people of that are already suffering. I don't even engage with them. I won't respond to them. I won't tell them what I think of them. I just think that's an evil unto itself that you pay for already. Twitter is the dumbest place on earth and unredeemable except when the Iowa caucuses are melting down, which in which case it was the greatest thing that has ever been invented. Okay, so before the state of the union, let's quickly handicap the democratic race. Right now, if you had to put money on it, I'd bet on Bernie, but then he'd take all my money if I win. So it really is not worth it at this point. But I think that Bernie is still the frontrunner at this point. What do you guys think? Michael, what do you thinking? I bet on Bernie, except the Democrats are going to redistribute his votes. And I really mean that seriously. He would win. Right now, it looks like he probably won in Iowa. There's some shenanigans going on.
Starting point is 00:27:20 He's way up in New Hampshire. The guy's even gaining in South Carolina, which he hadn't been doing well in. I think if they were left to the will of the voters, he would get it. And yet, the Democratic Party, this is not a conspiracy theory, they have tried time and time again to squash this guy's candidacy. And they have the power to do it. So I suspect there's a good chance they'll succeed again. I don't think they will succeed.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I think it will be Bernie if things keep up this way. And I don't think they will succeed because I think you're right and that the people who follow Bernie are not showing up for the second-tier candidate. They'll burn it down. They'll burn it down. They're communist. You know what I mean? Why wouldn't they?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Did you see that James O'Keefe was banned on Twitter today for his exposés about Bernie Stafford? It's unbelievable. It's like breaking into telling the truth. I completely miss this. That's insane. Yeah. So he's had. Perfectly predictable.
Starting point is 00:28:07 insane. Yeah, anyone who hasn't been following this, O'Keefe has done a terrific expose over the last couple weeks. Sanders campaign worker after Sanders campaign worker after Sanders campaign worker, saying that they support gulags and violent revolution. I mean, it's been a remarkable, a remarkable job. Nobody even covered the fact that they made anti-gay slurs against Lindsey Graham, you know. There's Rush. There he is standing in the man himself with Melania Trump, Rush Limbaugh. and we're waiting here for the President of the United States who ought to make his entrance just any minute now. We'll be watching the State of the Union along with you,
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Starting point is 00:29:42 Is this the cabinet walking in? Yeah, the president's cabinet is walking into the chamber. So the question, do you guys have a rooting interest in the Democratic primaries? So I know there are a lot of people who are rooting for Bernie to win. And it seems like a lot of folks in sort of Trump's orbit are rooting for Bernie to win. No, I do not want Bernie to win. I don't want Bernie to win. I want Biden to be the nominee.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And the reason is because if we learned anything from the 2016 election is that anyone nominated can become president. Correct. And if Biden becomes president, it will not be the end of the republic. I know that we're in the election now and you're going to get burned at the stake if you say things like this.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But I'm just telling you, if Joe Biden is president of the United States, there's going to be some problems. I won't be happy about it. We will still have a country on the other side of it. And if someone like Bernie accidentally, you know, think of all the things that happen. He can be the nominee.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Trump can have a heart attack. He can be the nominee. The economy can collapse. He can be the nominee in any thing. Anything can happen, any of a hundred things can happen, and he becomes the president. And now the greatest country in the history of the earth has elected an actual communist to be president. I don't see how we can possibly root for that just because we think it might be funny.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I got to be, well, that's one thing. I root for it because you think he's more beatable. Also, I just don't think it'll happen. I have too much hope, too much faith in the country. I do not think they'll elect Bernie Sanders, and I would love to see his philosophy repudiated as I think it will be as Jeremy Corbyans was in Britain. The problem though is. Another lesson that we learned from the Trump election in 2016 is that a party will realign its values to support its nominee.
Starting point is 00:31:11 They will. And if Bernie is the nominee, he doesn't even have to win. If he is the nominee, the Democrats will be the party of communism. No. Wait, but that's not true. They realign, but if he loses, they realign again. Well, no, I'm not sure that that's right, because they realigned for McGovern. And then there were a few, there was like one election cycle with Carter, basically, where they realigned in sort of more conservative direction.
Starting point is 00:31:33 and then by 1980, they were already realigning back toward McGovernism, right, because Teddy Kennedy was winning primaries. And by 1984, you have Walter Mondale on stage proclaiming he's going to raise everybody's taxes radically. So I do think that wherever is the outer bar that is set, that bar now becomes closer to the middle than it was. That damage has already been done. That may be true, but my other calculation is very simple, which is that if Bernie, if the possibility is Bernie has a 40% shot of being president and Biden has a 45% shot of being president, I would much rather take Biden at 45% shot of being president than Bernie at 40% shot. The differential isn't enough to justify Bernie being president. You're Batman at the end of the dark night saying, they won't blow up the votes.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Not in this town. Not in this town. And I'm a... Anytime I can be Batman at any point, I'm happy. And I'm the Joker going. Where were you in 2016? You know, on the other side, though, of this whole, like, worry that it just goes left and left and left, You did get when Mondale got wiped out by Reagan in 84, you did not so long after get Bill Clinton, who was, especially by today's standards, but really even by those standards, a sort of moderate Democrat. I do wonder if you got a Bernie in there, and hopefully everyone survives, then maybe you can get a repudiation of that. But even if not, even if you're worried that that'll realign the party, then by that logic, shouldn't we be pulling for a guy like Bloomberg who's sort of annoying and he was a, he wouldn't let me smoke when he was mayor? I'll take Bloomberg over Biden. In a heartbeat, I'll take Bloomberg over Biden. Yeah, if the right...
Starting point is 00:33:00 It still likes capitalism. Bloomberg actually believes that the free market is a good thing. And here he is, the president of the United States. Here we go, guys. All right, let's do this thing. Whose music is that? That's the president's music. Madam Speaker,
Starting point is 00:33:22 the president of the United States. The president of the United States. Thank you. Thank you very much. Madam Speaker, Mr. Vice President, members of Congress, the First Lady of the United States, and my fellow citizens, three years ago, we launched the great American comeback. Tonight, I stand before you to share the incredible results. Jobs are booming, incomes are soaring, poverty is plummeting, crime is falling,
Starting point is 00:37:56 confidence is surging, and our country is thriving and highly respected again. America's enemies are on the run. America's fortunes are on the rise, and America's future is blazing bright. The years of economic decay are over. The days of our country being used, taken advantage of, and even scorned by other nations are long behind us. Gone to are the broken promises, jobless recoveries, tired platitudes, and constant excuses for the depletion of American wealth, power, and prestige.
Starting point is 00:39:20 In just three short years, we have shattered the mentality of American decline, and we have rejected the downsizing of Americans' destiny. We have totally rejected the downsizing. We're moving forward at a pace that was unimaginable just a short time ago, and we are never, ever going back. I am thrilled to report to you tonight that our economy is the best it has ever been. Our military is completely rebuilt, with its power being unmatched anywhere in the world, and it's not even close.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Our borders are secure. Our families are flourishing. Our values are renewed. Our pride is restored. And for all of these reasons, I say to the people of our great country and to the members of Congress, the state of our union is stronger than ever before. The vision I will lay out this evening demonstrates how we are building the world's most prosperous and inclusive society, one where every citizen can join in America's unparalleled success,
Starting point is 00:41:14 and where every community can take part in America's extraordinary rise. From the instant I took office, I moved rapidly to revive the U.S. economy, slashing a record number of job-killing regulations, enacting historic and record-sorting. setting tax cuts and fighting for fair and reciprocal trade agreements. Our agenda is relentlessly pro-worker, pro-family, pro-growth, and most of all, pro-American. We are advancing with unbridled optimism and lifting our citizens of every race, color, religion, and creed very, very high. Since my election, we have created 7 million new jobs, 5 million more than government experts
Starting point is 00:42:33 projected during the previous administration. The unemployment rate is the lowest in over half a century. And very incredibly, the average unemployment rate under my administration is lower than any administration in the history of our country. If we hadn't reversed the failed economic policies of the previous. administration, the world would not now be witnessing this great economic success. The unemployment rate for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, and Asian Americans has reached the lowest levels in history. African American youth unemployment has reached an
Starting point is 00:44:14 all-time low. African-American poverty has declined to the lowest rate ever, recorded. The unemployment rate for women reached the lowest level in almost 70 years, and last year women filled 72 percent of all new jobs added. The veterans' unemployment rate dropped to a record low. The unemployment rate for disabled Americans has reached an all-time low. Workers without a high school diploma have achieved the lowest unemployment rate recorded in U.S. history. A record number of young Americans are now employed. Under the last administration, more than 10 million people were added to the food stamp
Starting point is 00:45:59 rolls. Under my administration, seven million Americans have come off food stamps, and 10 million people have been lifted off of welfare. In eight years under the last administration, over 300,000 working-age people, dropped out of the workforce. In just three years of my administration, 3.5 million people, working age people, have joined the workforce.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Since my election, the net worth of the bottom half of wage earners has increased by 47% three times faster than the increase for the top 1%. After decades of flat and falling incomes, wages are rising fast and wonderfully, rising fastest for low-income workers who have seen a 16% pay increase since my election. This is a blue-collar boom. Real median household income is now at the highest level ever recorded.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Since my election, U.S. stock markets have soared 70% adding more than $12 trillion to our nation's wealth, transcending anything anyone believed was possible. This is a record. It is something that every country in the world is looking up to they admire. Consumer confidence has just reached amazing new highs. All of those millions of people with 401ks and pensions are doing far better than they have ever done before with increases of 60, 70, 80, 80, 90, and 1%. and 100% and even more. Jobs and investments are pouring into 9,000 previously neglected neighborhoods
Starting point is 00:49:10 thanks to opportunity zones, a plan spearheaded by Senator Tim Scott as part of our great Republican. In other words, wealthy people and companies are pouring money into poor neighborhoods or areas that haven't seen investment in many decades, creating jobs, energy, and excitement. This is the first time that these deserving communities have seen anything like this. It's all working. Opportunity zones are helping Americans like Army veteran Tony Rankins from Cincinnati, Ohio. After struggling with drug addiction, Tony lost his job, his house, and his family.
Starting point is 00:50:13 He was homeless. But then Tony found a construction company that invests in opportunity zones. He is now a top tradesman, drug-free, reunited with his family, and he is here tonight. Tony, keep up the great work, Tony. Thank you, Tony. A roaring economy has, for the first time ever, given many former prisoners the ability to get a great job and a fresh start. This second chance at life is made possible because we passed landmark criminal justice reform into law. Everybody said that criminal justice reform couldn't be done, but I got it done, and the people
Starting point is 00:51:20 in this room got it done. Thanks to our bold regulatory reduction campaign, the United States has become the number one producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world. With the tremendous progress we have made over the past three years, America is now energy independent and energy jobs like so many other elements of our country are all the world. at a record high. We are doing numbers that no one would have thought possible just three years ago. Likewise, we are restoring our nation's manufacturing might, even though predictions were, as you all know, that this could never, ever be done. After losing 60,000 factories
Starting point is 00:52:43 under the previous two administrations, America has now gained 12,000 new factories under my administration with thousands upon thousands. of plants and factories being planned or being built. Companies are not leaving. They are coming back to the USA. The fact is that everybody wants to be where the action is, and the United States of America is indeed the place where the action is. One of the biggest promises I made to the American people was to replace the disastrous
Starting point is 00:53:37 NAFTA trade deal. In fact, unfair trade is perhaps the single biggest reason that the United States. that I decided to run for president. Following NAFTA's adoption, our nation lost one in four manufacturing jobs. Many politicians came and went pledging to change or replace NAFTA, only to do so, and then absolutely nothing happened. But unlike so many who came before me, I keep my promises. We did our job.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Six days ago, I replaced NAFTA and signed the brand new U.S.-Mexico-Canada agreement into law. The U.S.MCA will create nearly 100,000 new high-paying American auto jobs and massively boost exports for our farmers, ranchers, and factory workers. It will also bring trade with Mexico and Canada to a much higher level, but also to be a much greater degree of fairness and reciprocity, we will have that. Fairness and reciprocity. And I say that finally, because it's been many, many years that we were treated fairly on trade. This is the first major trade deal in many years to earn the strong backing of America's labor unions.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I also promised our citizens that I would impose tariffs to confront China's massive theft of America's jobs. Our strategy has worked. Days ago, we signed the groundbreaking new agreement with China that will defend our workers, protect our intellectual property, bring billions and billions of dollars into our treasury, and open vast new markets for products made and grown right here in the USA. For decades, China has taken advantage of the United States. Now we have changed that, but at the same time, we have perhaps the best relationship
Starting point is 00:56:16 we've ever had with China, including with President Xi. They respect what we've done because, quite frankly, they could, never really believe that they were able to get away with what they were doing year after year, decade after decade, without someone in our country stepping up and saying, that's enough. And that's exactly what we're doing. We are rebuilding our country. As we restore American leadership throughout the world, we are once again standing up for freedom
Starting point is 00:57:03 in our hemisphere. That's why my administration reversed the failing policies of the previous administration on Cuba. We are supporting the hopes of Cubans, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans to restore democracy. The United States is leading a 59-nation diplomatic coalition against the socialist dictator of Venezuela, Nicholas Maduro. Maduro is a tyrant who brutalizes his people, but Medeuro. De Nizuera's grip on tyranny will be smashed and broken. Here this evening, it's a very brave man who carries with him the hope, dreams, and aspirations
Starting point is 00:58:16 of all Venezuelans. Joining us in the gallery is the true and legitimate president of Venezuela, Juan Guaido. Mr. President, please take this message back to you. Thank you, Mr. President. Great honor. Thank you very much. Please take this message back that all Americans are united with the Venezuelan people in their righteous struggle for freedom. Thank you very much, Mr. President.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Thank you very much. Socialism destroys nations, but always remember freedom unifies the soul. To safeguard American liberty, we have invested a record-breaking $2.2 trillion in the U.S. in the United States military. We have purchased the finest planes, missiles, rockets, ships, and every other form of military equipment, and it's all made right here in the USA. We are also getting our allies, finally,
Starting point is 01:00:44 to help pay their fair share. I have raised contributions from other NATO members by more than $400 billion, and the number of allies meeting their minimum, obligations has more than doubled. And just weeks ago, for the first time since President Truman established the Air Force, more than 70 years earlier, we created a brand new branch of the United States Armed Forces. It's called the Space Force. In the gallery tonight, we have a young gentleman and what he wants so badly, 13 years old, Ian Launfei. He's an eighth grader for
Starting point is 01:01:53 from Arizona, Ian, please stand up. Ian has always dreamed of going to space. He was the first in his class and among the youngest at an aviation academy. He aspires to go to the Air Force Academy, and then he has his eye on the Space Force. As Ian says, most people look up at space, I want to look down on the world.
Starting point is 01:02:39 But sitting behind Ian tonight is his greatest hero of the Charles McGee was born in Cleveland, Ohio one century ago. Charles is one of the last surviving Tuskegee Airmen, the first black fighter pilots, and he also happens to be Ian's great-grandfather. Incredible story. After more than 130 combat missions in World War II, he came back home to a country still struggling for civil rights, rights and went on to serve America in Korea and Vietnam. On December 7th, Charles celebrated his
Starting point is 01:03:58 100th birthday. A few weeks ago, assigned a bill promoting Charles McGee to Brigadier General, and earlier today, I pinned the stars on his shoulders in the Oval Office. General McGee, our nation salutes you. Thank you, sir. From the Pilgrims to the founders, from the soldiers at Valley Forge to the marchers at Selma, and from President Lincoln to the Reverend Martin Luther King, Americans have always rejected limits on our children's future. Members of Congress, we must never forget that the only victories that matter in Washington
Starting point is 01:05:28 are victories that deliver for the American people. The people are the heart of our country. Their dreams are the lives. the soul of our country and their love is what powers and sustains our country. We must always remember that our job is to put America first. The next step forward in building an inclusive society is making sure that every young American gets a great education and the opportunity to achieve the American dream. Yet for too long, countless American children have been trapped in failing government
Starting point is 01:06:37 schools. To rescue these students, 18 states have created school choice in the form of opportunity scholarships. The programs are so popular that tens of thousands of students remain on a waiting list. One of those students is Janiyah Davis, a fourth grader from Philadelphia, Janaya. Janaya's mom, Stephanie, is a single parent. She would do anything to give her daughter a better future. But last year, that future was put further out of reach when Pennsylvania's governor vetoed legislation to expand school choice to 50,000 children. Janaya and Stephanie are in the gallery. Stephanie, thank you so much for being here with your beautiful daughter. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:07:48 But Janaya, I have some good news for you because I am pleased to inform you that your long wait is over. I can proudly announce tonight that an opportunity scholarship has become available. It's going to you, and you will soon be heading to the school of your choice. Now I call on Congress to give one million American children the same opportunity Janaya has just received. Pass the Education Freedom Scholarships and Opportunities Act, because no parent should be forced to send their child to a failing government school. Every young person should have a safe and secure environment in which to learn and to grow. For this reason, our magnificent First Lady has launched the Be Best initiative
Starting point is 01:09:29 to advance a safe, healthy, supportive, and drug-free life for the next generation, online, in school, and in our communities. Thank you, Melania, for your extraordinary love and profound care for America's children. Thank you very much. My administration is determined to give our citizens the opportunities they need, regardless of age or background. Through our pledge to American workers,
Starting point is 01:10:16 over 400 companies will also provide new jobs and education opportunities to almost 15 million Americans. My budget also contains an exciting vision for our nation's high schools. Tonight, I ask Congress to support our students and back my plan to offer vocational and technical education in every single high school in America. To expand equal opportunity, I am also proud that we achieved record and permanent funding for our nation's historically black colleges and universities. A good life for American families also requires the most affordable, innovative, and high-quality
Starting point is 01:11:30 health care system on earth. Before I took office, health insurance premiums had more than doubled in just five years. I moved quickly to provide affordable alternatives. Our new plans are up to 60 percent less expensive and better. I've also made an iron-clad pledge to American families. We will always protect patients with pre-existing conditions. And we will always protect your Medicare, and we will always protect your social security, always.
Starting point is 01:12:28 The American patient should never be blindsided by medical bills. That is why I signed an executive order requiring price transparency. Many experts believe that transparency, which will go into full effect at the beginning of next year, will be even bigger than health care reform. It will save families, massive amounts of money for substantially better care. But as we work to improve Americans' health care, there are those who want to take away your health care, take away your doctor, and abolish private insurance entirely. 132 lawmakers in this room have endorsed legislation to impose a socialist takeover of our health care system,
Starting point is 01:13:39 wiping out the private health insurance plans of 180 million very happy Americans. To those watching at home tonight, I want you to know we will never let socialism destroy American health care. Over 130 legislators in this chamber have endorsed legislation that would bankrupt our nation by providing free taxpayer-funded health care to millions of illegal aliens, forcing taxpayers to subsidize free care for anyone in the world who unlawfully crosses our borders. These proposals would raid the Medicare benefits of our seniors and that our seniors depend on while acting as a powerful lure for illegal immigration. That is what is happening in California and other states.
Starting point is 01:14:51 their systems are totally out of control, costing taxpayers' vast and unaffordable amounts of money. If forcing American taxpayers to provide unlimited free health care to illegal aliens sounds fair to you, then stand with the radical left. But if you believe that we should defend American patients and American seniors, then stand with me and pass legislation to prohibit free government health care for illegal aliens. This will be a tremendous boon to our already very strongly guarded southern border, where as we speak, a long, tall, and very powerful wall is being built. We have now completed over 100 miles and have over 500 miles fully completed in a very short period of time. Early next year, we will have substantially more than 500 miles completed.
Starting point is 01:16:13 My administration is also taking on the big pharmaceutical companies. We have approved a record number of affordable generic drugs and medicines are being approved by the FDA at a faster clip than ever before. And I was pleased to announce last year that for the first time in 51 years, the cost of prescription drugs actually went down. And working together, Congress can reduce drug prices. substantially from current levels. I've been speaking to Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa and others in Congress in order to get something on drug pricing done and done quickly and properly. I'm calling for bipartisan legislation that achieves the goal of dramatically lowering prescription drug prices. Get a bill on my desk
Starting point is 01:17:23 and I will sign it into law immediately. Those deaths declined for the first time in nearly 30 years. Among the state's hardest hit, Ohio is down 22 percent, Pennsylvania is down 18 percent, Wisconsin is down 10 percent, and we will not quit until we have beaten the opioid epidemic once and for all. Protecting Americans' health also means fighting infectious diseases. We are coordinating with the Chinese government and working closely together on the coronavirus outbreak in China. My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from this threat.
Starting point is 01:18:55 We have launched ambitious new initiatives to substantially improve care for Americans with kidney disease, Alzheimer's, and those struggling with mental health. And because Congress was so good as to fund my request, new cures for childhood cancer, and we will eradicate the AIDS epidemic in America by the end of this decade. Almost every American family knows the pain when a loved one is diagnosed with a serious illness. Here tonight is a special man, beloved by millions of Americans who just received a stage four advanced cancer diagnosis. This is not good news, but what is good news, is that he is the greatest fighter and winner
Starting point is 01:19:57 that you will ever meet. Rush Limbaugh, thank you for your decades of tireless devotion to our country. And Rush, in recognition of all that you have done for our nation, the millions of people a day that you speak to and that you inspire, and all of the incredible work that you have done for charity, I am proud to announce tonight that you will be receiving our country's highest civilian honor,
Starting point is 01:20:57 the Presidential Medal of Freedom. I will now ask the First Lady of the United States to present you with the honor, please. Rush and Catherine, congratulations. Thank you, Catherine. As we pray for all who are sick, we know that America is constantly achieving. new medical breakthroughs. In 2017, doctors at St. Luke's Hospital in Kansas City delivered one of the earliest premature babies
Starting point is 01:23:13 ever to survive. Born at just 21 weeks and six days and weighing less than a pound, Ellie Schneider was a born fighter. Through the skill of her doctors and the prayers of her parents, little Ellie kept on winning the battle of life. Today, Ellie is a strong, healthy,
Starting point is 01:23:35 year old girl sitting with her amazing mother Robin in the gallery Ellie and Robin we are glad to have you with us tonight. Reminds us that every child is a miracle of life and thanks to modern medical wonders 50% of very premature babies delivered at the hospital where Ellie was born now survive. It's an incredible thing. Thank you very much. Our goal should be to ensure that every baby has the best chance to thrive and grow just like Ellie. That is why I'm asking Congress to provide an additional $50 million to fund neonatal research for America's youngest patients. That is why I'm also calling upon members of Congress here tonight to pass legislation
Starting point is 01:25:08 finally banning the late-term abortion of babies. Whether we are Republican, Democrat, or independent, surely we must all agree that every human life is a sacred gift from God. As we support America's moms and dads, I was recently proud to sign the law providing new parents in the federal workforce paid family leave, serving as a model for the rest of the country. Now I call on Congress to pass the bipartisan advancing support for Working Families Act, extending family leave to mothers and fathers all across our nation. Forty million American families have an average $2,200 extra thanks to our child tax credit. I've also overseen historic funding increases for high-quality child care, enabling 17 states
Starting point is 01:26:58 to help more children, many of which have reduced or eliminated their wait lists altogether. And I sent Congress a plan with a vision to further expand access to high-quality child care and urge you to act immediately. To protect the environment days ago, I announced that the United States will join the one trillion trees initiative and ambitious effort to bring together government and private sector
Starting point is 01:27:32 to plant new trees in America and all around the world. We must also rebuild America's infrastructure. I ask you to pass under John Barrasso's highway bill to invest in new roads, bridges, and tunnels all across our land. I'm also committed to ensuring that every citizen can have access to high-speed internet,
Starting point is 01:28:27 including and especially in rural America. A better tomorrow for all Americans also requires us to keep America safe. That means supporting the men and women of law enforcement at every level, including our nation's heroic ICE officers. Last year, our brave ICE officers arrested more than 120,000 criminal aliens charged with nearly 10,000 burglaries, 5,000 sexual assaults, 45,000 violent assaults, and 2,000 murders. Tragically, there are many cities in America where radical politicians have chosen to provide sanctuary for these criminal illegal aliens. In sanctuary cities, local officials order police to release dangerous criminal aliens to prey upon the public instead of handing them over to ICE to be safely removed.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Just 29 days ago, a criminal alien freed by the sanctuary city of New York was charged with the brutal rape and murder of a 92-year-old woman. The killer had been previously arrested for assault. but under New York sanctuary policies, he was set free. If the city had honored ISIS detainer request, his victim would still be alive today. The state of California passed an outrageous law declaring their whole state to be a sanctuary for criminal illegal immigrants,
Starting point is 01:30:29 a very terrible sanctuary with catastrophic results. Here is just one tragic example. In December 2018, California police detained an illegal alien with five prior arrests, including convictions for robbery and assault. But as required by California's sanctuary law, local authorities released him. Days later, the criminal alien went on a gruesome spree of deadly violence. He viciously shot one man going about his daily work. He approached a woman sitting in her car and shot her in the arm, and in the chest.
Starting point is 01:31:08 He walked into a convenience store and wildly fired his weapon. He hijacked a truck and smashed into vehicles, critically injuring innocent victims. One of the victims is a terrible, terrible situation.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Died. 51-year-old American named Rocky Jones. Rocky was at a gas station when this vile criminal fired eight bullets at him. from close range murdering him in cold blood. Rocky left behind a devoted family, including his brothers, who loved him more than anything else in the world.
Starting point is 01:31:48 One of his grieving brothers is here with us tonight. Jody, would you please stand? Jody, thank you. Hearts, weep for your loss, and we will not rest until you have justice. Senator Tom Tillis has introduced legislation to allow Americans like Jody to sue. sanctuary cities and states when a loved one is hurt or killed as a result of these deadly practices.
Starting point is 01:32:31 I ask Congress to pass the justice for victims of Sanctuary Cities Act immediately. The United States of America should be a sanctuary for law-abiding Americans, not criminal aliens. In the last three years, ICE has arrested over 5,000 wicked human traffickers, and I have signed nine pieces of legislation to state. stamp out the menace of human trafficking domestically and all around the globe. My administration has undertaken an unprecedented effort to secure the southern border of the United States. Before I came into office, if you showed up illegally on our southern border and were arrested, you were simply released and allowed into our country, never to be seen again.
Starting point is 01:33:46 My administration has ended catch and release. If you come illegally, you will now be promptly removed from our country. Very importantly, we entered into historic cooperation agreements with the governments of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala. As a result of our unprecedented efforts, illegal crossings are down 75% since May, dropping eight straight months in a row. And as the wall rapidly goes up, drug seizures rise. And the border crossings are going down and going down very rapidly.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Last year, I traveled to the border in Texas and met chief patrol agent Raul Ortiz. Over the last 24 months, Agent Ortiz and his team have seized more than 200,000 pounds of poisonous narcotics, arrested more than 3,000 human smugglers, and rescued more than 2,000 migrants. Days ago, Agent Ortiz was promoted to Deputy Chief of Border Patrol, and he joins us tonight. Chief Ortiz, please stand. A grateful nation, thanks you and all of the heroes of Border Patrol and ICE. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:35:56 To build on these historic gains, we are working on legislation to replace our outdated and randomized immigration system, with one based on merit, welcoming those who follow the rules, contribute to our economy. support themselves financially and uphold our values. With every action, my administration is restoring the rule of law and reasserting the culture of American freedom. Working with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, thank you, Mitch, and his colleagues in the Senate, we have confirmed a record number of 187 new federal judges to uphold our
Starting point is 01:36:54 Constitution as written. This includes two brilliant new Supreme Court justices, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh. Thank you. And we have many in the pipeline. My administration is also defending religious liberty and that includes the constitutional right to pray in public schools. In America, we don't punish prayer. We don't tear down crosses. We don't ban symbols of faith. We don't muzzle preachers and pastors. In America, we celebrate faith. We cherish religion. We lift our voices in prayer, and we raise our sights to the glory of God. Just as we believe in the First Amendment, we also believe in another constitutional right that is under siege all across our country. So long as I am president, I will always protect your Second Amendment right to keep and bear arm.
Starting point is 01:38:48 as a free nation, we must remember that America has always been a frontier nation. Now we must embrace the next frontier. America's manifest destiny in the stars. I am asking Congress to fully fund the Artemis program to ensure that the next man and the first woman on the moon will be American astronauts using this as a launching pad to ensure that America is the first nation to plant its flag on Mars. My administration is also strongly defending our national security and combating radical Islamic terrorism.
Starting point is 01:39:51 Last week, I announced a groundbreaking plan for peace between Israel and the Palestinians, recognizing that all past attempts have failed. We must be determined and creative in order to stabilize the region and give millions of young people the chance to realize a better future. Three years ago, the barbarians of ISIS held over 20,000 square miles of territory in Iraq and Syria. Today, the ISIS territorial caliphate has been 100 percent destroyed, and the founder and leader of ISIS, the bloodthirsty killer known as al-Baghdadi, is dead. We are joined this evening by Carl and Marsha Mueller.
Starting point is 01:40:50 After graduating from college, their beautiful daughter, Carla, became a humanitarian aid worker. She once wrote, some people find God in church, some people find God in nature, some people find God in love. I find God in suffering. I've known for some time what my life's work is, using my hands as tools to relieve suffering. In 2013, while caring for suffering civilians in Syria, Kayla was kidnapped, tortured, and enslaved by ISIS and kept as a prisoner of al-Baghdadi himself. After more than 500 horrifying days of captivity, al-Baghdadi murdered young, beautiful Kayla. She was just 26 years old. on the night that U.S. Special Forces operations ended al-Baghdadi's miserable life, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, received a call in the Situation Room.
Starting point is 01:41:56 He was told that the brave men of the elite special forces team that so perfectly carried out the operation had given their mission a name. Task Force 814. It was a reference to a special force. day, August 14th, Kayla's birthday. Carl and Marsha, America's warriors never forgot Kayla, and neither will we. Thank you. Every day America's men and women in uniform demonstrate the infinite depth of love that
Starting point is 01:43:02 dwells in the human heart. One of these American heroes was Army Staff Sergeant Christopher Haake. On his second deployment to Iraq in 2008, Sergeant Haake wrote a letter to his one-year-old son, Gage. I will be with you again, he wrote to Gage. I will teach you to ride your first bike, build your first sandbox, watch you play sports, and see you have kids also. I love you, son. Take care of your mother. I am always with you, Daddy.
Starting point is 01:43:36 On Easter Sunday of 2008, Chris was out on patrol in Baghdad when his Bradley fighting vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb. That night he made the ultimate sacrifice for our country. Sergeant Haake now rests in eternal glory in Arlington, and his wife Kelly is in the gallery tonight, joined by their son, who is now a 13-year-old and doing very, very well, to Kelly engage. Chris will live in our hearts forever. He is looking down on you now. Thank you. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Thank you both very much. The terror is responsible for killing Sergeant Haik was Qasim Soleimani, who provided the deadly roadside bomb that took Chris' life. Soleimani was the Iranian regime's most ruthless butcher, a monster who murdered or wounded thousands of American service members in Iraq. As the world's top terrorists, Soleimani orchestrated the deaths of countless men, women, and children.
Starting point is 01:45:13 He directed the December assault and went on to assault. U.S. forces in Iraq was actively planning new attacks when we hit him very hard. And that's why last month at my direction, the U.S. military executed a flawless precision strike that killed Soleimani and terminated his evil reign of terror forever. Our message to the terrorists is clear. You will never escape American justice. If you attack our citizens, you forfeit your life. In recent months, we have seen proud Iranians raise their voices against their oppressive rulers.
Starting point is 01:46:22 The Iranian regime must abandon its pursuit of nuclear weapons, stop spreading terror, death and destruction, and start working for the good of its own people. Because of our powerful sanctions, the Iranian economy is doing very, very poorly. We can help them make a very good and short-time recovery. It can all go very quickly, but perhaps they are too proud or too foolish to ask for that help. We are here. Let's see which road they choose.
Starting point is 01:46:55 It is totally up to them. As we defend American lives, we are willing. working to end America's wars in the Middle East. In Afghanistan, the determination and valor of our warfighters has allowed us to make tremendous progress, and peace talks are now underway. I am not looking to kill hundreds of thousands of people in Afghanistan, many of them totally innocent. It is also not our function to serve other nations as law enforcement agencies. These are warfighters that we have, the best in the world, and they either want to fight to win or not fight at all. We are working to finally end America's longest war and bring our troops back home.
Starting point is 01:47:51 War places a heavy burden on our nation's extraordinary military families, especially spouses like Amy Williams from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and her two children, six-year-old, Eliana, and three-year-old Roe. Amy works full-time and volunteers countless hours helping other military families. For the past seven months, she has done it all while her husband, Sergeant First Class, Townsend Williams, is in Afghanistan on his fourth deployment in the Middle East. Amy's kids haven't seen their father's face in many months. Amy, your family's sacrifice, makes it possible for all of our families to live in safety and in peace, And we want to thank you.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Thank you, Amy. There is one more thing. Tonight, we have a very special surprise. I am thrilled to inform you that your husband is back from deployment. He is here with us tonight, and we couldn't. Welcome home, Sergeant Williams. Thank you very much. As the world bears witness tonight, America is a land of heroes.
Starting point is 01:51:18 This is a place where greatness is born, where destinies are forged, and where legends come to life. life. This is the home of Thomas Edison and Teddy Roosevelt, of many great generals, including Washington, Pershing, Patton, and MacArthur. This is the home of Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglas, Amelia Earhart, Harriet Tubman, the Wright brothers, Neil Armstrong, and so many more. This is the country where children learn names like Wyatt Earp, Davy Crockett, and Annie Oakley. This is the place where the pilgrims landed at Plymouth and where Texas patriots made their last stand at the Almo.
Starting point is 01:52:04 The beautiful, beautiful Alamo. The American nation was carved out of the vast frontier by the toughest, strongest, fiercest, and most determined men and women ever to walk on the face of the earth. Our ancestors brave the unknown, tame the wilderness, settled the Wild West, lifted millions from poverty, disease, and hunger, vanquished tyranny and fascism,
Starting point is 01:52:37 ushered the world to new heights of science and medicine, laid down the railroads, dug out the canals, raised up the skyscrapers, and ladies and gentlemen, our ancestors built the most exceptional republic ever to exist in all of human history, and we are making it greater than everything. before. This is our glorious and magnificent inheritance. We are Americans, we are pioneers, we are the pathfinders, we settle the new world, we built the modern
Starting point is 01:53:37 world, and we change history forever by embracing the eternal truth that everyone is made equal by the hand of Almighty God. America is the place where anything can happen. America is the place where anyone can rise. And here, on this land, on this soil, on this continent, the most incredible dreams come true. This nation is our canvas,
Starting point is 01:54:23 and this country is our masterpiece. We look at tomorrow and see unlimited frontiers just waiting to be explored. Our brightest discoveries are not yet known. Our most thrilling stories are not yet told. Our grandest journeys are not yet made. The American age, the American epic, the American adventure has only just begun.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Our spirit is still young. The sun is still rising. God's grace is still shining. And my fellow Americans, the best is yet to come. Thank you. God bless you and God bless. And there she is overtly tearing it up. Is it that behind him? Classy. Well, there you have it. The President of the United States, Donald Trump, letting all of us here at Daily Wire down by giving a terrific state of the union address in contravention, both of our bias against states of the union
Starting point is 01:55:42 generally and our high hopes that the president would come out and give us basically WWE-style destruction of the Democrats. Instead, he chose to give truly one of the great state of the union addresses, I think of... He's good at least. So he's good. So some of the best state of the union address was excellent. Every year we say this is like the best speech he's ever given. Yeah. And this is, again, one of the best speeches that he's ever given. He is by far, the best president I have ever seen in my lifetime, at putting people in the stands and then telling great stories about him. Because he's a TV guy, right? So he understands that if you actually reunite people on TV, that is better than talking about reuniting.
Starting point is 01:56:18 He shows. He doesn't tell, right? If you're going to give Rush Limbaugh the Medal of Freedom, you have him actually being given the Medal of Freedom on TV. And so all of that was just fantastic. He really took the opportunity to say all the things in the first 20 minutes that everybody can agree with, right? That the economy is fantastic. You should reelect me because the economy is fantastic. And then he started clubbing the Democrats about the ears over socialism and about health care and about illegal immigration. saved that stuff for like 40 minutes in. So if you were just sort of the casual viewer, you're not going to understand any of the headlines tomorrow from the New York Times about how divisive the speech is and how terrible the speech is, because you only watch the first half an hour where he's talking about how fantastic the economy is, which again, is a very smart tactic. The best thing in the speech, aside from obviously the reuniting of
Starting point is 01:56:59 the family on screen, which, I mean, that is a surefire winner. There's no way to blow that. It's just spectacular, no matter how it's done. The best thing that he did was the very end right there where he tells the story of America, because that is the key contrast that we are going to be looking at in this election, especially if it's Bernie Sanders. That key contrast between America is a fantastic place. America was a fantastic place. America has been filled with heroes, and America's constantly trying to better herself. Our history is great.
Starting point is 01:57:24 We've made the modern world great. All of that is a direct contradiction to everything that you've been hearing from Pete Buttigieg. The sort of Noam-Chomsky... The 1619 project. America was rooted in racism and slavery and big trade. America was a horror show. People's history. Right, exactly. It's a direct refutation of the Howard's and Bullshit.
Starting point is 01:57:42 that you've been hearing the Democrats push on the campaign, the beta O'Rourke nonsense. And they all have been mirroring this. They've all been mirroring it. So Trump, the smartest movie that he makes there is he says, America is great and we're making it greater than ever before. And so all the Democrats six, they hate Trump, right? But it looks like they're sitting for the part where he said that America is actually great. It has been great. But the truth is that they wouldn't even agree with the basic statement, right? I mean, the new Democratic Party, unlike Democratic voters, most Democratic voters are still patriots. Most Democratic voters still believe that America is uniquely amazing place because they live here.
Starting point is 01:58:11 How can you live here and not believe that? But by pointing that out and by saying all of those things about American history, he's drawing a significant contrast that Democrats are going to be hard-pressed to win. Michael, I have to know. I really don't. I'd think that this is an exaggeration at all. I think this was the single greatest state of the union address in American history. Not all because of Trump, but largely because of Trump.
Starting point is 01:58:34 It was in part because of the moments, as Ben said, those moments were hard. I mean, tears came to my eyes at the rush moment. Tuskegee Airmen. I mean, the moments were just unbelievable. The second reason is because of the Democrats' reactions. Nancy Pelosi couldn't stand for Rush Limbaugh's cancer diagnosis and the Medal of Freedom. They couldn't stand for low black unemployment, for low Hispanic unemployment, for low disabled unemployment. They couldn't stand for any of that. All the Democratic women and white couldn't stand for low women unemployed unemployment among women. But the third reason, the third reason that this State of the Union was probably, I think, the greatest
Starting point is 01:59:11 ever given is because the state of the union simply is in discrete measures the greatest it's ever been on economic policy, on foreign policy, peace around the world, consumer confidence, manufacturing confidence. There's all this political rancor. You saw that with the Democrats sitting down. But by all objective measures, he was telling the truth. The state of the union really is strong. You know, all through the, you know, I have a really good friend who likes to say that facts don't care about your feelings. All through the same. All through this speech, I kept thinking of something that the poet, John Keats, wrote to the other poet, Percy Shelley. He said, load every rift of your subject with ore, meaning, meaning, meaning, and to facts. And Donald Trump, as I keep saying, has done a tremendous job. You know, obviously we have problems sometimes with his character, we have problems with sometimes the way he behaves. But he is a guy who advertised himself as a fixer. He has fixed a lot. This country is in great shape. It really is. It's in better shape. This is the most successful president I've seen since Ronald Reagan.
Starting point is 02:00:15 And has he got the grace of Ronald Reagan? No, he doesn't. Maybe it's a different time. Maybe it's a time when pugilism is required, when a certain kind of fight and a certain kind of intensity is required simply to fight back against the incredible wave of anti-American hatred that the press is sold and the Democrats have sold. He has done an amazing thing to this country. He has turned its economy around. To me, to me, the biggest. A statistic in the Trump administration is the statistic that the American life expectancy is growing again. People have stopped killing themselves out of despair. And that one statistic, that statistic that people were killing themselves out of despair, was a rebuke, an unanswerable rebuke to the elites who said it didn't matter, to the elites who said that they were citizens of the world, and America, you know,
Starting point is 02:01:04 if America had to suffer a little bit for the world to get better, that was fine. No. I mean, Donald Trump said, no, that's not the world. way it's going to be. Obama said these jobs are never coming back. They came back. Obama said you need a magic wand. We didn't need a magic wand. The speech was so great. The showmanship was great. The showmanship was great, but the speech was great because it applied to things that were actually happening. And this is the thing that has amazed me. I remember at Christmas time, I remember sitting there with the newspaper and turning to my wife and saying, I've never read this much good news.
Starting point is 02:01:35 And now, as January is unfolded with the trade deals and Soleimani getting killed and the the record stock markets and record job numbers. It's an amazing moment. And Donald Trump really does get the credit for it. His administration gets the credit for it. And I think the Democrats look terrible because they're not applauding success. It's the substance of the speech. It made it great.
Starting point is 02:01:57 I want to talk about that opening 20 minutes because I think that it was some of the most savvy craftsmanship that I've ever seen in a state of the union, especially going into an election year. But first I want to talk about our friends over at Bravo Company Manufacturing. It seems like every backstage we talk about Bravo Company Manufacturing, and it's because Bravo Company Manufacturing, one of the great supporters of this show and one of the great supporters of our Second Amendment. The president, by the way, during the speech, saying that as long as he is president, he's going to defend the right of Americans to keep him bare arms.
Starting point is 02:02:28 And that's what our friends at Bravo Company Manufacturing are all about. When the founders crafted the Constitution, the very first thing they did was to make sacred the rights of the individual to share their ideas without limitation by government. That's the First Amendment. that the Second Amendment they enumerated was the Second Amendment. That's why they call it the Second Amendment. And that is the right of the population. We learned so much on the show.
Starting point is 02:02:47 I know. I really bring my A-game. That is the right of the population to protect our First Amendment rights and to protect our own persons with force. That's what the Second Amendment is all about, as Ben likes to say, it isn't about your right to hunt. It isn't about your right to go engage in target practice, speed shooting. It's about your right to protect yourself and your rights. owning a rifle is an awesome responsibility.
Starting point is 02:03:09 I've talked before on the show about how, I think I took you to buy your first firearm. I've taken like half the people who work here to buy their first firearm. Took Michael to buy his first firearm. The truth of the matter is, though, that I don't like hunting. I don't really like target shooting. It's the responsibility that causes me to own the firearm. I feel like as an American, it is our responsibility to own a weapon as a bulwark against people coming to take our weapons, building rifles is no less of responsibility.
Starting point is 02:03:39 If it's a responsibility to own one, it's a responsibility to give us a quality one. And that's what Bravo Company Manufacturing or BCM is all about. They were created in a garage by a Marine veteran more than two decades ago. BCM built a professional grade product built to combat standards. Bravo Company manufacturing is not a sporting arms company. They engineer and manufacture life-saving equipment. That's how they see it because that's what it is. The people at BCM assume that when the rifle leaves their shop,
Starting point is 02:04:03 It will be used in a life or death situation by a responsible citizen law enforcement officer or soldier overseas. Not they hope it will, they assume it will, and they give that much care to its creation. To learn more about Bravo Company Manufacturing, head over to bravo company mfg.com, where you can discover more about their products, special offers, and upcoming news. That's bravo company mfg.com. If you need more convincing, you can find out more about Bravo Company manufacturing and the awesome people who make their products at YouTube.com slash bravo company USA. The first 20 minutes, Michael, of this speech, the president truly gave a state of the union. He enumerated almost in bulleted form, all the sort of measurable KPIs, the key performance
Starting point is 02:04:47 indicators of what's going on in our country. And he gave a report. I've never seen a president actually do that. I found it to be overwhelmingly effective. What was your response? I think that's why we liked it so much, because we generally hate these state of the union addresses. They're so boring and meandering. This one, he actually gave a state of the union.
Starting point is 02:05:08 And the reason he did it, the reason it was so savvy is because the state of the union is strong. I was a little afraid that it was just going to all be a diatribe about this farcical impeachment process. And I think what I left this speech, especially that first 20 minutes of the speech, what I left thinking was, oh yeah, this impeachment is going to be a punchline in the history books.
Starting point is 02:05:30 And the actual substance of the history is going to be all the great stuff that we've seen over the last three years. So a few things that are worthy of pointing out. One, Nancy Pelosi's behavior is atrocious, right? She opened this thing, and normally you say it is my high honor and pleasure. Sting privilege to present the president of the United States. Instead, she said, ladies and gentlemen, the president of the United States, because she wasn't going to give him the time of day.
Starting point is 02:05:49 And then she offered him her hand, and he brusely turned his back on her. So that'll be the big headline tomorrow, that they had this little tete-a-tete. At the very end of the speech, I believe she does this normally, but she made it very overt tonight. At the very end of the speech, while he was still up there, you could see her physically take the speech and tear it in half before the cameras went off. She looked pretty puerile up there. There were several times where it appeared that she was talking to herself.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Did anyone else notice that? A few times you were reading along on your computer as it went. But there were several times where she would look over kind of in the middle distance between herself and Pence, kind of out on the horizon somewhere, and she would just start talking as the president was speaking. I wonder if she was mowing somebody to something in her caucus or something. But you did see a couple of kind of outburst by member of the caucus. apparently congressman Tim Ryan walked out in the middle. Presumably AOC is drinking and Instagramming right now.
Starting point is 02:06:36 But I will say one thing. So it is eminently true that the president's record is particularly on the economy, but also on foreign policy. Yeah, spectacular. Spectacular. I mean, the one area that no president ever touches ever, the only one who ever did was Reagan is spending cuts, right? Nobody ever talks about how they're going to cut spending in the state of the union. I remember Bush never did it. It drove me up a wall.
Starting point is 02:06:55 Nobody ever talks about minimizing government, which I thought was part of conservatism until the last five minutes. but no one ever met. But that's not just on Trump. That's not every Republican. I will point out, the reason we all feel good tonight is because what we just saw tonight is what Trump could be if he contained himself 20%. Okay, not 100%, 20%. If we saw this Trump every day, so for all of the, we laugh along and we chuckle along at tweets and all this stuff, you and I, all of us in this room, and one person in D.C., we all know that if Donald Trump were this every day, the man would win 60% of the vote. And he could do it still. Right. Well, we were talking about this off air, which is that The good news is that the American public's attention span is all 7.2 seconds.
Starting point is 02:07:32 So if Trump does it for like four days before the election, then he'll probably be okay. But this sort of contained Trump. And we saw this last year with the State of the Union, too, because we were all like, wow, that was great. That was really spectacular. If Trump could just contain it, and if he could channel the showmanship into moments like Tuskegee Airmen getting up, which is an unbelievable thing. I mean, it's an unbelievable thing.
Starting point is 02:07:52 You have the Democratic Party today claiming that America is not worth fighting for that America's garbage. American needs fundamentally changed. And there, you had Tuskegee Airmen who were coming home to segregation, risking their lives for a country that did not respect them as human beings, but recognizing that the potential in the Constitution of the United States and the Declaration of Independence was such that they were American citizens and America was still the last great hope of man. I mean, that's an unbelievable thing. If Trump could chant, I mean, it's the great frustration of my life, right? I mean, it really is politically, is that Donald Trump has all the potential to truly be. You know, they're the people who are fans.
Starting point is 02:08:24 He's the best president of every, the best president of recent memory. He's talking about you, Michael. Yeah, I am talking about you. Right. But the fact is that if Donald Trump were able to be this guy all the time, it would be almost impossible to argue against that. Yeah, but if he would this guy, he would not have gotten elected. I have to pause for just a second. By the way, I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 02:08:42 I just don't think that's true. I got to stop for just a minute and talk about this thing with Rush Limbaugh, this moment with Rush Limbaugh. Every single one of us in this room and on this, I've always said Knowles was kind of two-dimensional. And now, I'm part of the manifest destiny over Mars right now. I have to say every single one of us has taken hits from media matters and from Twitter. And I mean, somebody today wished that when I said something nice about Rush, he said, I hope you're next. We've all gotten this stuff. But Rush has gotten it. They don't know you're already dead. You've been dead for years. Exactly. They don't even know. Rush has gotten it a thousand
Starting point is 02:09:14 times more. He got it when nobody else existed like him, when there was nobody else to compare him to. He was out there alone. And to see him win that medal, that the highest medal that a civilian can get in America. and to see him honored by the president of the United States in front of a joint session of Congress. It was kind of like all of us getting a little stardust on us. And I just thought like, you know, this is an amazing thing.
Starting point is 02:09:36 And Trump has brought us there. And the only thing I say, I understand what you're saying, Ben. I don't think you're being like crazy to say these things about Trump. I understand, I really feel that it's a kind of a tragic situation in that only a guy like Trump could have gotten elected and some of the things that got him elected work against him.
Starting point is 02:09:52 I think that that's just, you know. And we agree that if he does this, the rest of the election cycle, he will be better off. And not only that, he'll wamp the person who's on the other side. And not only that's one of his biggest supporters. Tell me that when I'm out on the road and I'm talking to him. Everyone. Everyone knows. They all say it. However, it is, because he is, he has got a little bit of rush in him. He's got a little bit of that spirit of conservatism, that a little bit of that pugilistic spirit, that we had this moment when this guy, Rush, who was, you know, the first time I heard of Rush, it was because
Starting point is 02:10:19 I was in London, and I read a London paper, a friend of mine, in New York, a very big literary agent was saying nobody should publish Rush Limbaugh's book. And I wrote to her. I wrote to her in those days with a pen, right? The internet was just starting. I wrote to her and I said, you know, this is the voice that's being silenced. I wasn't a conservative then. I just said, you know, but we can't silence these voices. Who did you hand the pen to when you were finished? Nancy Pelosi. She just happened to be there. But no, this is a tremendous change in American society that this voice, Russia's voice, Trump's voice has become acceptable, and I think it took
Starting point is 02:10:56 a lot of pugilism and a lot of toughness to get there. I want to push on this just very slightly, because I don't think we I don't think on this topic right now we wildly disagree. I think we all agree Trump's strengths and his weaknesses are
Starting point is 02:11:11 possibly the same. We all agree that if this Trump would be the dominant Trump, his chances at re-election would be... He's pretty damn pugilistic in the speech, by the way. Yes, he was. But he's thought. Right. I think the one distinction between Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh, and I think it's an important one. When people talk about Rush Limbaugh, the first thing that most people who don't like him will say is that he's arrogant.
Starting point is 02:11:33 Right. What they don't understand is that Rush is actually one of the most self-deprecating people that I've ever had the pleasure to meet. And he, his every boast that he makes about himself. He's a joke about it. Is a joke about himself. Of course. You know, talent on loan from God. He doesn't actually think he's, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:11:51 Of course. He's a humble guy. If you've ever spent any time with him, he's a self-deprecating guy. He has a good sense of humor about himself. I have not found that to be the case with President Trump. I don't think Trump easily laughs at Trump. I think Trump might laugh at Trump's jokes. I don't think that Trump laughs at Trump. And I actually think he has that in common with Barack Obama. I've said since the beginning that I think in some ways Donald Trump is like bizarro Barack Obama. He's the exact, he's the, the Fun House Mirror Barack Obama. The Fun House mirror Barack Obama couldn't laugh at himself ever. One thing that they both have in common is when they would go to the, is it the Al Smith dinner? Yes. That happens in D.C. and you see at every election in the candidates get up in their white tie, and they tell jokes about themselves. And neither of them would laugh at the jokes that were made at them, neither Obama nor Trump.
Starting point is 02:12:41 When they go to the White House correspondence dinners, they rarely crack a smile at the jokes that are being made in their direction. Both of them are people who take themselves quite seriously. And I think that that's actually where Trump gets himself into trouble. Trump is also an American figure in every sense of the word. You know, America is a great big country. We have great big flaws. We do things wrong. We're a little garish, the idea of the ugly American.
Starting point is 02:13:08 I've been over in Europe. I've seen ugly Americans and all this stuff. Trump embodies all those things. He embodies the greatness of America, the absolute, you know, I'm going to do this thing. I'm going to put my name. You like that building? I'm going to put my name in gold letters on top of the building. That is an all-American way to be. But he also embodies some of our flaws. And I think that, you know, I think that embracing the bigness of America, the trumpness of America is not such a bad thing in a moment when the New York Times is telling us that we're the worst country on Earth. And I do think, I do think there's a little bit of a difference in degree here. You know, I'd push back a little bit on your point, Jeremy, which I think is mostly true. But there are these moments that you see Trump.
Starting point is 02:13:47 break the act a little bit. I remember this one time he was talking about how he never had a beer. He said he was probably the only president who could say he never had a beer. It was the only good thing you could say about him. Could you imagine if he was a drunk, he'd be the worst? That's fair. Look, I'm not saying you get a ton of moments of public humility from Trump, but there are a few that show you maybe some of his braggadocio is an act, or maybe more of it is an act than we think. So the upside of this is that this was fantastic. It really was. Terrific. It was first rate, A plus top Trump, right? I mean, this is the best.
Starting point is 02:14:19 Coming on top of the Iowa catastrophe. Fantastic. Fantastic. And in the middle of he's about to be acquitted by the same people who are sitting there making lemon face at him while he was doing this, right? I mean, they were really sour. And they sucked on just eggs and lemons. Yeah. Every lemon.
Starting point is 02:14:32 Right. Exactly. Every one. All the lemons. They made lemons out of lemonade. It's almost impossible to do. But with that, what this really said, what this says to me is that if that's as good as Trump can be, and we all know, that that Trump wins, if he somehow loses this election under these conditions, the only person
Starting point is 02:14:51 to blame is Donald Trump. Because that, because that is, because this Donald Trump cleans the clock of any Democrat who runs against him. They all look like little puctions against this. The fact is he has a great record. The fact is that he is fully capable of laying out, or at least when he's scripted, he is fully capable of laying out a fulsome argument as to not just Democrats suck, but why Democrats suck, right? I mean, he was giving paragraphs long, why Democrats are wrong on health care-free legal immigrants. That's right. And why Democrats are wrong on Juan Huido and socialism and why Democrats are wrong on all these things. And it wasn't just a tweet. This is why I think that Twitter is some of the worst thing that
Starting point is 02:15:24 ever happened to Trump. And I know that his base loves it. I know it's him going around the media. I know all of it, like, long-form Trump, if his thought, we all spend an enormous amount of time. Everyone in the media does. It spends an enormous amount of time doing explications of Trump, right? Trump gives you a shorthand. And then you just spend the next 40 minutes trying to explain what he made. It's Tomudic, right? You give you like this much text. And then you give like, pages of tolmuteic explanation of what exactly Trump meant. And maybe Trump meant some of it. And maybe he didn't mean any of it.
Starting point is 02:15:52 But the bottom line is that when Trump explains himself, whether it's written by speechwriters or not, it doesn't matter because the president's, this is always written by speech writers. But when he explains himself in full like this, they can't touch him. You know, I've actually written to some of the speechwriters in the White House telling him that one of Trump's best moments was,
Starting point is 02:16:10 I think it was during the World Series. They put out an ad saying, he's not Mr. Nice Guy. Yep, this is great. This is what he, and I think he needs to make that speech as, as the election comes on, because one of the groups of people who obviously have turned against them are suburban women. And the one thing about suburban women is they all have suburban husbands. And their husbands are not always Mr. Nice Guy, because sometimes you ask your husband to do the stuff that needs to be done, that needs a little bit of nastiness that maybe you're not going to do.
Starting point is 02:16:35 And I think that Donald Trump needs to say to people, I know a little bit. I see myself. But what I am. But what knows is talking about. If he had a little bit of self-awareness, right? He just said, listen, no, no, but I mean if he expressed it. He expressed it more clearly. Like, listen, I know I'm a jerk, right?
Starting point is 02:16:49 Like, everybody knows I'm a jerk. And you know what? I'm doing good stuff, and you're going to have to forgive me for being a jerk. Or you don't have to forgive me for a ring jigger. I don't care. Who I'm dealing with. That's all the yesterday. Sometimes it takes a tough guy to get stuff done.
Starting point is 02:16:59 Right, and beyond that, like, listen, pay no attention to the me behind the curtain. Right? Pay no attention to that. Just pay attention to what I'm doing out here. And I think that that is a winning pitch and does enure him to some of this. the big problem is when you have the legion, honestly, I think it's an actual problem. When you have the Legion of Defenders who are willing to defend every ridiculous thing that he says, it actually encourages him to say more ridiculous things.
Starting point is 02:17:19 I also want to say that I don't think that his garrishness is the problem. I actually find his garishness is charming. It's his boorishness, right? That's right. His meanness. And his inability to back off of a bad position. Or as we were talking about before, his tendency to snatch Victor, from the Jaws of Victor.
Starting point is 02:17:38 from the jobs of victory. This is his big problem. I think it's garishness is funny. I know that none of the three of you watched it because I was going around the office trying to get you guys to watch it. When the president gave his speech regarding the Chinese trade deal, it was one of the great moments in American history. I'm going to go as far as to say, it's like
Starting point is 02:17:56 Gettysburg, address, farewell address by Washington, Trump announcing his trade deal with China. He has the Chinese ambassador standing over his shoulder. That was funny. And he proceeds to say, great things about China and horrible things about China, almost like seamless. He's back and this governor is here who's also an ambassador. He loves China and he told me to be nice to China. I had to tear up half my speech about China because he loves China so much.
Starting point is 02:18:22 And he was very helpful. Also our trade secretary. Oh, he doesn't agree with the governor. China is mean. China's terrible. They're an awful place. I did see the Chinese ambassador kind of standing over China. I think people love that about Donald Trump. Sure, sure. That he that he doesn't. Perfect example. Perfect example. So Baghdad. gets killed. Yes. And Trump does the whole, and he was whimpering and he was crying like a little pansy in the corner. And the media is like, was he actually whimpering? Was he actually crying? Right. Where is the actual evidence that al-Baghdadi didn't die like a martyred hero? Right. And everybody's like, okay, so fine. So like, let's say Trump's embellishing. Are we really going to sit here and
Starting point is 02:18:56 like wine about the fact that Trump is making fun of the worst person on earth? Like, good, good. I hope that that guy's burning in hell. And I'm glad Trump made fun of him and screw that. There's a difference between that. That's right. And Donald Trump then going on. on Twitter and saying what he says that we all know is stuff that's not home. Or more than that. Quid pro quo. Right. Quid pro quo is terrible. And that Donald Trump, every act of foreign policy is quid pro quo.
Starting point is 02:19:21 The only reason you give foreign aid to any nation is to get a behavior in response. So when Donald Trump insists immediately out of the gate, there was no quid pro quo. And then he can't back off of that position. And then we get all the way to this point of impeachment and the Bolton transcript leaks. and we get into this position of, aha, there was quid pro quo. Now Donald Trump is in an unforced error because quid pro quo was never the standard of whether or not this was a corrupt action. I don't think that's the other example. Let me think he was never.
Starting point is 02:19:52 He set that bar. This is right. And when you set that bar with the public, and then you fall short of that. I think it's the stuff where John Bolton suddenly becomes the worst person of America. I agree with it. I've seen him on Fox News being welcomed like unto a god. I think it's the stuff, the person's stuff. Well, I agree, but that flows from.
Starting point is 02:20:11 Even when he attacks Bloomberg for being short, it's funny, it's funny, but it is to gruel. And it minimizes him as a human being. And I think those are the things. When he does the thing with the hurricane where he draws on the map with the Sharpie, and then we have to have the entire weather. And there is a Kansas City, Kansas. It's right there. But this is actually my point is that the group of people who are like, okay, now we're going to do a fulsome defense of why Kansas City is, the airport's
Starting point is 02:20:37 actually in Kansas. And it's like, or we could just go, yeah, it's just Trump being Trump, and we move on with our lives. And Obama said 57 states and all this people. Right. And who cares? And honestly, who cares? But the problem is that Trump cares. And the more you care, the more Trump cares. The thing is, though, I think you guys have paid too much attention. I really do. I think you pay too much attention to outliers. The thing is most of this country, most of this country is somewhere around the middle. I mean, it's to the left of the middle and to the right of the middle. And most of the country, including Trump supporters, are going, yeah, I wish he'd stop tweeting so much, but I love
Starting point is 02:21:07 what he's doing. And I think that we sometimes pay too much attention to the guys who say like, yeah, you know, yeah, that's right. Mike Bloomberg is short. You know, those guys are going to have their day. They're going to have their columns. They're going to have their Twitter feeds. But I don't think that they're the people who are going to decide. Well, but the point is that if Trump's Twitter feed is a way of going around the media so he can talk directly to the public, then he doesn't need people. I'm not supporting. I'm not supporting in doing this. I'm just saying that the support for him doing this is not as scary as you think. So here's the thing. As I've said a thousand times at this point, politics is about making it very difficult to vote for your opponent.
Starting point is 02:21:36 and make it very easy to vote for you. And Trump is excellent at the former and he is rotten at the ladder. And the fact is that if Donald Trump were even half-rodden at the ladder, right? If we got this tonight, that makes it easy. Right, that's an easy you pull the lever. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:49 Right. This Trump right here, you commit voter fraud for this Trump, right? I know, it's true. The joke media matters. No one's committing voter fraud, except in Iowa where Bernie was screwed, I tell you. But other than that, the fact is that the Trump tonight makes people comfortable.
Starting point is 02:22:03 Yeah. That was a comfortable Trump, right? That was comfortable. And every time he makes people feel uncomfortable, the issue becomes Donald Trump as opposed to this great cornucopia of wonder that lies before us. The thing is, as Jeremy said, and I think this is absolutely true, we're not really far apart on these things. No, no, no. I do think we leave certain things out. And one of the most important things we leave out is the effect of the media.
Starting point is 02:22:23 And I think that the media has been so corrupt, so left-wing, so single-minded in their attempt to destroy not just Donald Trump. No, Romney-McCain. derangement syndrome started out as Bush derangement syndrome. So they've been calling us Nazis for a thousand years. And that's why Trump is there. But I don't think this is fair. They have a strange new respect. And I think that that atmosphere is why Trump is there.
Starting point is 02:22:47 It is people finally saying, you know what? You know, I'm not a Nazi. I'm not even a racist. I go down my neighbor is some other race than me and I love them. That's an explanation, but it's not a justification. I accept that. I totally agree with the diagnosis. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:01 I don't agree with it. with the with the with the prognosis meaning they the like the diagnosis is correct and now we need the cure and the cure is the very focused trump that we saw tonight and you know what there's no i don't know who thinks it's a great sin for trump for it off the teleprompter there is no great sin in there was no great sin in having your tweets read by one person before they go out not a thousand people one person before they go out there's no great sin maloney would be a good one this is fine seriously like anybody anybody in the west wing those people i promise you are begging that they would be allowed that sort of that sort of access. And so like even a shred
Starting point is 02:23:35 of it. This is what's so frustrating. It's why like it sounds like I'm bitching about the president. No, I really, I really, I really am not. We want him to win. We want him to win. This guy. This guy is, was fantastic, right? And would be unifying. I mean, half his speech was about reaching out to minority communities. Half the speech, literally. Well, this is the beauty. This guy is the guy that people want to have for their president. Right. And against this guy, to your point, Ben, every comer on the Democrat side looks like. a child. Yeah, that's right. But when Trump acts like a child,
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Starting point is 02:25:55 Oh, you mean Ruth Bader. Oh, yeah. over in Ruth Badercraft. We made the real dress up. Will you at least give us an ovation in your white outfit there? Oh, oh, yeah, sorry. No, I'm just making sure that you guys are doing all the reads properly. That's what this is.
Starting point is 02:26:15 Now that I know that, I can tear it up. Good job on that. Bravo company should be pleased. Also, you know what's funny? I feel like Trump just makes people more Trumpy, because according to Mary Bruce, who's a White House correspondent for ABC News, she tweeted that when Nancy Pelosi was asked why she ripped Trump's speech up, Speaker Pelosi responded,
Starting point is 02:26:36 it was because it was, quote, a courteous thing to do considering the alternative. It was such a dirty speech. Ooh. What was the alternative? She's a wipe her ass with it, or what? Like, ugh. Anywho. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:48 It's also interesting because the state of the union is a constitutional requirement, and the reason that the president hands a typed copy, of the speech to the Speaker of the House is because that is actually the fulfillment of the constitutional responsibility, not giving the speech. So what she just tore and a half, it doesn't belong to her. It's an actual official document.
Starting point is 02:27:10 Democrats, you used to rooting things in the Nancy Pelosi actually thought she was ripping up the Constitution. In that case. It's such a dirty thing. I'm like killing full-term babies. Very dirty, dirty thing. Yeah, I'm just wearing my white over here to remind those women that they don't own the color white. Pro-life women can rock it too.
Starting point is 02:27:28 I think that's the first time any of those women have worn white. Yeah, he used to be an angelic color, but anyway, moving along. We have a question from somebody that wanted to know about the infrastructure part of the president's speech. He wants to know if he passes all of that legislation, is he not concerned about growing the national debt? And is his infrastructure plan conservative. He is not concerned about growing the national debt. He's not concerned about the debt. He literally promised that he was going to provide full parental leave.
Starting point is 02:27:56 that he was going to make sure that Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security were not touched, and also that he was going to build Space Force, send people to Mars, build an entire new education program, and build new infrastructure. I'm going to know on the, like, him caring about blowing out the debt and the deficit, but no Democrat or Republican does. They are all on the same page. He's in a safe position because he knows that Congress won't pass anything he says up there. He could literally get up there and say, I'm calling on Congress right now
Starting point is 02:28:24 to give every American a brand new Ford F-15. 50. It means nothing. Obama literally used to do this, right? He used to get up there and give a litany of things. He'd be like, I want everybody. I want a new unicorn. And half the Congress was like, yeah, unicorns. To be fair, we do not know what his infrastructure plan looks like, which it could be an incentive plan that I would support. You know, I mean, it doesn't have to be. You were doing so well tonight.
Starting point is 02:28:51 We have no idea what it looks like. I'm pretty sure we know what it looks like. Really? Yeah. I'm fairly certain that he's not just going to leverage a bunch of private people into paying for the roads, Drew. No, he actually cited someone who had authored some legislation, right? Yeah, and it got like one person clabby. He was one guy.
Starting point is 02:29:06 That was my name, people. That was my name. Michael, what do you think on this infrastructure bill? You know, I think that we all cheered on the Tea Party area, every single one of us. And there was this big moment for entitlement reform. Paul Ryan put forth a number of plans. He worked with Ron Wyden. He worked across the aisle.
Starting point is 02:29:24 And we were all rooting for that. And I think one of the lessons of that era turning into the Trump era was that we got it a little bit backwards. We were hoping that we could get our fiscal house in order. I remember Governor Mitch Daniels at CPAC one year said that the new red menace is the menace consisting of ink. And really, we probably should have taken Andrew Breitbart's advice, which is that the political issues are downstream of cultural issues. And really, the way to fix our fiscal house is first to deal with the cultural issues, which President Trump has taken. tapped into. Maybe that's not what we would prefer, and that's not what the early
Starting point is 02:29:58 20 teens were about, but I think that's what we've learned. You know, I hate this is, but that may be the smartest thing that Michael Fulks is. That's so funny, because I was about to say, see, true, what? Alicia, let's hear some questions from our daily wire.com subscribers. Absolutely. And by the way, everybody did tear up at the military family reunion and the moment
Starting point is 02:30:16 when Rush Limbaugh got that like metal. Presidential medal. Presidential medal. I mean, he's great at this. He should really host a game show. I mean, it was like The Apprentice, but nobody got fired. So a lot of Daily Wire subscribers are commenting that they just love those moments. And this question is for the whole crew. They want to know, what do you think is going to happen to the Democratic Party after they lose this mutual hatred of Trump? Because there tend to be these establishment Democrats.
Starting point is 02:30:45 You know, God King has mentioned Joe Biden might not be as threatening as communist Bernie Sanders. So what happens after they lose this mutual hatred of Trump? Do you believe that the Democratic Party will shatter once he is no longer in office. I personally believe, I sound like Bernie. I happen to believe. But I actually think that the Democrats are going to go far left on this, maybe as far left as Bernie. I think they're going to lose.
Starting point is 02:31:10 Obviously, nobody knows the future. I'm riffing, but this is what I think is going to happen. And I think they're going to have to reconsider. Their resistance has been a failure. Their resistance has been a failure in every possible way. The only way it could be a success, is for them to win the next election. I don't think they will.
Starting point is 02:31:27 They might, but I don't think they will. If they don't, I actually do think that new forces within the Democrat Party are going to rise up because most of the Democratic Party, as you point out, including the voters, but many of the politicians themselves are really moderate. They're moderate left-wingers who have stuff to say that is part of the American argument.
Starting point is 02:31:46 And I think that there is a chance, just being optimistic here, there is a chance that if they are decimated in the next election as they so deserve to be, that they may have to reconsider and move to the center. So one of the things I love about Drew is that he's so close to death and yet so optimist. It really is an amazing thing.
Starting point is 02:32:02 I'm optimistic for you. I'm being optimistic for you. I appreciate it for future generations. Plants a tree that you'll never see grow to fruition, Drew. I'm out here for the left. So I think that the actual answer to this question is that the Democratic Party is going to continue to move left. The young people are in the Bernie camp.
Starting point is 02:32:21 They're not in the Biden camp. It's all old Democrats who are in favor of the Biden camp. This is where you guys are wrong. And wait, this is where old age is, it actually comes in handy. Young people are ignorant. Youth and ignorance are actually synonyms. And they will learn. They will learn that guys like Bernie are. Right. But the problem is if you start off at Bernie Sanders, you end up at Elizabeth Warren. Meaning that to start off that far to the left where you're like supporting natural commie is not quite the same thing as I supported Walter Mondale and now I support Bill Clinton, right? You're moving
Starting point is 02:32:49 gradations here. And the biggest problem of all, of course, is that when you look at sort of the demographic shift inside the Democratic Party, what you are seeing is that it is being led by the intersectional coalition. And this is not a racial point. This is the point that the pitch that the Democrats have been using since the Barack Obama era is that minorities in this country have been put upon by the American superstructure. This is the Taunahisi-Code's case. And that these groups who have been dispossessed need to fight back against the privilege they were denied by rupturing the system as a whole. And so the Democrats have banked on this kind of coalition of dispossessed minorities and enough white people who can absolve themselves of being called racist by going along
Starting point is 02:33:28 with it, which is how you saw this. I don't know if you saw this insane piece in The Guardian about liberal white women who are now paying $2,500 a pop to Sarah Rao and a bunch of out and some other, some other crazed person to be lectured on their own racism. I think the most likely outcome, no matter which way we go. So here's the thing. If Biden runs and he loses, let's say Biden gets the nomination, he loses, they're moving left. If Bernie runs and they lose, then I think they'll do the same thing that Trump would have done in 2016 if he had lost, blame the never-Trumpers, blame the moderate Democrats for not showing up in mass numbers. Why didn't you show up for us? We showed up for you kind of thing.
Starting point is 02:33:57 And then what you will see is it'll be a good move for the Republican Party because as the Democratic Party moves to the left, it does clear the center for Republicans to take some of that. And I think you are seeing some of that, particularly in the middle of the country, which is why Trump was able to breach that blue wall. But I think the wish that the Democratic Party is going to move back to a centrist party, I do not see that happening in the future. Let me offer an alternative theory. And I'm not, I've learned since 2016.
Starting point is 02:34:23 We've all learned. Nothing is predictable, yeah. But it is possible, you know, there's the theory, the great man theory of history, right? It is possible that Bernie Sanders, it's amazing, right? You've got AOC, you've got Ilhan Omar, you've got Rashid Talib, all these guys. And yet it's 80-year-old Bernie Sanders, who is the populist figure on the left. It may be that Bernie is a unique character on the left. that it's actually the fact that he's 80, it's the fact that he has a funny accent,
Starting point is 02:34:54 it's the fact that he seems unthreatening. He's been out saying this stuff for 438 years and nobody's listened. Suddenly he gets into his late 70s and he becomes this sort of beloved figure for young people. It's not other 80-year-olds who like Bernie, it's 20-somethings who like Bernie. It is possible that at a much greater, to a much greater extent, but a similar phenomenon to what we had on the right with Ron Paul, where it was the zaniness of Ron Paul and the sort of physical stature of Ron Paul
Starting point is 02:35:25 and the age of Ron Paul. All of that is what was required for Ron Paul to be Ron Paul. And it's possible that when Bernie is no longer, if Bernie were to run and lose, it's possible that that clears the way for kind of a new demagogue on the left, which could be more of a Barack Obama type figure who we're not all talking about today,
Starting point is 02:35:44 just like we weren't talking about Barack Obama four years before his election. But you could see sort of a new wave of Democrats come in. Who are the Democratic stars? Elizabeth Warren came in second and I. But here's the reason. Here's the reason I'm not as pessimistic as you are. The Democrats have bet heavily on the ignorance of the young. And the New York Times, the 1619 project, is a bet that they can keep the young ignorant. It is we can lie to you and you will believe our lies. And the thing about ignorance is that it doesn't last. It is not, it's not
Starting point is 02:36:14 something that you can keep going for a long time. And I think that they're going to lose that bet. I do believe that they are going to lose that. On a cultural level, they kept it going for some 50 years, so I think that... Well, it is taking them 50 years to get the youth to this level of ignorance. But ignorance falls apart really quickly when it meets reality. I mean, reality has a voice, and this is the thing that no political observer ever takes into account. Reality has a voice. You do someday show up and say, hey, you know, I earned $100, and here's my check for $50. Where's the other $50? And people say, well, that's taxes,
Starting point is 02:36:46 and it's going to... Right, but I think that... The argument that you're making is that the Democratic Party is going to move to the center if Trump swamps them. I think the argument that you're now making is that the Democratic Party will move back to the center after Bernie Sanders is president and the economy tanks. No, no, not at all. This is what happened in Britain, right? I mean, Britain moved way to the left after World War II. And then they completely collapsed in on themselves like a dying star.
Starting point is 02:37:05 And then Margaret Thatcher comes along. Same thing in the United States with the Reagan. That is a possible future. It definitely is a possible future. But I don't think it's going to happen. I think Bernie may win. I think he's going to lose the main election. I think the Trump is going, I do think the Trump is going to be reelected.
Starting point is 02:37:19 And again, we've all learned that we don't know what the future is. From your mouth to God's ears. I hope you're right. And I think that there's got to be voices, there have got to be voices in the Democrat Party that are now silenced by the rage and hatred of Donald Trump and the belief that he can be brought down. There is this intense belief that Donald Trump can be brought down. Bringing up this left-wing move of the UK after World War II and then it goes back right with Thatcher, which coincidentally happens at the same time as Reagan, it's important. not to look at this in isolation. It is true that America leads the world and pretty much everything, but there is something happening beyond America. At the same year that we elected Trump, you had Brexit
Starting point is 02:37:57 in the UK. You had these right-wing movements beginning in Italy and throughout Europe. It does seem that there's sort of a waking up among the West that this kind of stale liberalism is insufficient, not just economically, but spiritually and politically. And so I don't see that dying out any time soon. They tried to relitigate Brexit. How many times? And Brexit still went through. I think we actually have a pretty decent future, at least for the near future. It is through the national
Starting point is 02:38:25 elections, by the way, in Britain. I made it a paper on this in college and it's held true ever since. That if you look at the prime ministerial elections in Britain, they very closely mirror the American presidential elections. I so agree with this. And I also think, you know, we have to get rid of the idea that there's going to be some victory that lasts forever. No political victory lasts
Starting point is 02:38:41 more than 25 years. If you win for 25 years, that's a long time. And I think we are in set up right now for a 25-year victory. We may not get it, but we are set up for it. I'll have what she's having. Three of the five of us on this show will still be here in 25 years. That's right. And if you would like to continue hearing from us.
Starting point is 02:39:00 And by the way, I'll be laughing like a crazy man. You can head over to daily wire.com and give us a little bit of your hard-earned money. We can use it around these parts. If you become a member right now using the promo code DW2020, you'll get 20% off of your membership. Yes, 20% off of your membership. You get the articles ad-free. You'll get access to all of our live broadcasts, our show library, full three hours of the Ben Shapiro show every single day, as well as some select bonus contents, the mailbag and other wonderful things. And if you become all access to your member, you will get to join us after this show and several times throughout
Starting point is 02:39:33 the week for a live sort of AMA-style discussion that we do on the website where we get to answer a ton of questions. In the meantime, let's answer one more question on the show, Elisha. I hope that Drew's here until 100? Yeah, really. Wait. I'm feeling great. He's like really old, right? All right.
Starting point is 02:39:55 His last question is a good one, and I'm kind of disappointed, and I think this Daily Wire subscribers as well, are you all surprised that Trump didn't bring up the impeachment? I'm delighted that he didn't. I thought it was a brilliant move. I mean, it would be. Surprised, yes. Are you surprised? I am surprised.
Starting point is 02:40:10 I am not surprised. He rarely has discipline to avoid taking jabs. The fact that he didn't take a jab about impeachment and he didn't take a jab about Iowa is good Trump, to quote, Ben, but I will also add, for me, surprising Trump. So he did reference impeachment, right? There was one point where he pretty obviously was where he said, when we work together for the good of Americans, wink, wink, nod, right? And all the Democrats are like, no, we can't do that. Yeah, he said the only victories that matter are the victories on behalf of America. Right, exactly. That was like, oh, sally. F yourselves, right? That was pretty obviously an impeachment reference. But yeah, I mean, he contained it. Was I surprised a little bit whenever he contains himself? That's kind of a surprising thing. Was I happy with that he did it? Yeah, smart politics. You don't want to bring up something that really is not going to help you in anyway. He did get a bit of an impeachment bounce because Americans don't like this. The Gallup poll showed that he was down to like 38% approval rating in October. He's up to 49% approval rating now. So that's a pretty significant bounce. Was I disappointed that I didn't get.
Starting point is 02:41:13 the fisticuffs that I had foreseen and maybe hoped for in the immediate lead-up. I mean, now that it's all over and the better angels of my nature have kicked back in, I'm very happy the president gave a good speech, and I hope that he is this until the election, or until the next seven minutes when he gets back on Twitter and starts retweeting random Twitterers making memes of him beheading Nancy Pelosi or something. I was not surprised. This is the speech I expected from him. It's the speech I thought he would make.
Starting point is 02:41:40 I'm much more worried about what he's going to tweet tonight. than I was about the speech. I thought this was... You know, I was surprised, and it was a political masterstroke, but maybe I shouldn't have been surprised. Maybe I should have been more like Drew, because you've got the billionaire
Starting point is 02:41:54 who's married to the gorgeous woman who speaks five languages, who became the head of network television, you know, top-rated show, a big real estate mogul, won the presidency on his first time running for office. Maybe the guy has better political instincts. I swear to God, Michael,
Starting point is 02:42:08 if you're in the seat right now, I would beat the living hell out of you. If I have to hear another encomium genius of Donald Trump. Like, okay, let's be real about this for one second. He read a speech that was written for him off of teleprompters. It was great. Loved it. Also, also,
Starting point is 02:42:23 yeah, sweet baby. Within seven minutes, we were just saying, even Drew, who's with you on the Trump train, right? You're the conductor, and he's shoveling the coal right into that engine. And Drew is over here going, well, God, I hope that we don't check Twitter right after this, and Trump is retweeting porn. Like, we all know what this is. Just cut your... For a second.
Starting point is 02:42:43 Hey, Nolz, you know, I told Jeremy that I was afraid that you would leave us because when you throw a crocodile into the swamp, he swims away. Are you coming back from Washington one of these days? Well, I guess when I finish my cigar, I'll try to fly back over there. Hopefully we'll be able to have a couple of we miss you, brother. You are going straight from here to do an episode of The Verdict with Ted Cruz, yes? I am. I'm going to be up all night, probably.
Starting point is 02:43:08 But it should be a pretty exciting one. I thought it was going to be very boring with a very very very. boring speech and now we're going to be up until five in the morning. Well, if anybody hasn't gone over and listened to the verdict with Ted Cruz, we're really proud of it. Michael's doing some of his best work. The senator is fantastic. Certainly Michael's best work. And it is the first show of its kind where you get immediate inside baseball insight from someone who's sitting in the room, actually experiencing all of this in real time.
Starting point is 02:43:35 For the rest of us, we're going to go over to the DailyWire.com and do our discussion right now. We'd love to hear from you. Come over to the website. If you're already an All Access member, we'd love to hear from you. If you're not one, use that promo code DW2020 and subscribe. We're going to get there as many questions as we can here. You'll hear from Ben, Drew, myself, Alicia. We might even get one or two from Michael before he has to go do the show.
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Starting point is 02:44:43 He's weird.

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