The Michael Knowles Show - Daily Wire Backstage: Impeach This!

Episode Date: November 15, 2019

Is this the end of Trump's presidency? Do the Democrats have the goods or is it just "Russian collusion" round two? Will we ever find out how many whistleblowers it takes to screw in a lightbulb? Answ...er: Epstein didn't kill himself. Join this roundtable discussion featuring Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, Michael Knowles, Daily Wire god-king Jeremy Boreing as they get to the bottom of these questions and more. For a limited time, use promo code “WarrenTears” to get 20% off Insider Plus and All Access memberships at Dailywire.com! Become a Daily Wire subscriber! www.dailywire.com/account/subscription Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, this is your favorite skinny boy, Michael Knowles. The latest Daily Wire backstage impeach this is a full meal of everything you need to know about the absolutely nothing impeachment hearing. Join Ben Shapiro, Andrew Claven, and the God King, Jeremy Boring and I, as we feed you all the hot takes on the vacuous impeachment hearing, which happens to be sandwiched between several screeching democratic lunatics with the combined IQ of a sesame seed bun. It's basically a nothing bird.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We will give you that and so much more. Take a listen. Welcome to the Stanley Wire backstage, impeach this. I'm Jeremy Boring, known around here as Jeremy Boring. That's with a lowercase J and the lowercase B. We're glad you've tuned in. Well, thank you everybody for being here. And thank you especially to the teleprompter operator
Starting point is 00:01:10 who has not rolled the teleprompter. Oh, there we go. Now, for those of you at home, you may think they don't have real ideas. See, their lines are being fed to them by billionaires who are trying to influence our election. Fair enough. Yep. Thank you guys for tuning in. Is this the end of the Trump presidency?
Starting point is 00:01:29 Do the Democrats have the goods? Or is it just Russian collusion round two? Will we ever find out how many whistleblowers it takes to screw in a light bulb? Answer. Epstein didn't kill himself. Joining me to speculate on all of that and more, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Claven, Michael Knowles and the lovely. We always say that she's lovely.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Sometimes I think it's patronizing. Oh, wow. I hadn't thought of that. But she is lovely. Elisha Krauss, joining us via satellite from wherever it is that they keep her. We'll be taking questions from Elisle. That was a little patronizing.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We'll be taking questions from you, the people. By way of Elisha, if you go over to dailywire.com slash subscribe, become a subscriber. Support us. We need the support. We need the support. in particular, because as we move closer and closer to the election, the pressure on advertisers to remove their content from our shows, this isn't just us, it's everyone involved in conservative
Starting point is 00:02:25 media is so immense. Also, for the platforms, when you have candidates like Elizabeth Warren flat out saying she's going to break up the big tech platforms, basically if, I'm actually not sure what the quid pro quo here is. It's, if I become president, I will break you up for helping the other guy become president. It makes no sense to me. Nevertheless, they're all under a lot of pressure and the only way that we can stay on the air and keep bringing you the content that you...
Starting point is 00:02:53 I mean, do they want it? So richly deserve. Do they want it? The content you deserve. If you become a subscriber, and we are running a special right now, did you guys see this? It's actually pretty hilarious.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Elizabeth Warren, who may actually become president of the United States, decided that one thing that that Joe Biden had that she didn't have was, you know, accusations of plagiarism and I did.
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Starting point is 00:04:09 Guys, I had a whole list of things that would be fun to talk about. And then I thought, well, there's one thing that won't be fun to talk about, but will actually be the only thing that anyone in America cares about. And that's impeachment. Right. So we just have to do it. Okay. So let's do this thing. So day two. Yeah, day two. So the public hearing started yesterday. It's everybody recognizes that this is all a made-for TV special that they actually have presented no new information, nor will they provide any new information. It's like the New York Times actually had their TV critic, write a review of the coverage yesterday.
Starting point is 00:04:42 They're full-on TV critic. One of their columnists was talking about, it was a news columnist. It wasn't even like an analysis columnist. Was talking about the reassuring gray hair of Bill Taylor. I thought to myself, that is the first time I've ever heard
Starting point is 00:04:53 gray hair described as reassuring. Usually it forecast death. But the fact is that, you know, the left is so obsessed with the idea that somehow something has changed here, that they're going to just pretend that something has changed. Now, obviously, as we all know,
Starting point is 00:05:09 nothing has actually changed here. If they didn't have the goods before, they don't have the goods now. If they did have the goods before, they have the goods now. My inclination is that they certainly do not have the goods. And the biggest hole in the testimony yesterday, because two people testified, charged affair of Bill Taylor, who is the highest ranking American official in Ukraine, as well as Kent, George Kent, who's the Undersecretary of State, who's dealing with Ukrainian affairs. They both testified.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And the Republicans kept hammering home the only point that really matters. And that point is, you guys have never even talked to Trump. You don't know Trump. I mean, you guys are playing seven degrees of Kevin Bacon with the president of the United States, while it's tempting to impeach the presidents of the United States. And the only reason that that would not be a dispositive argument, really, is because there are some people who have directly talked to Trump who have not talked yet, right? The only testimony that's going to matter if you actually think that any of it matters,
Starting point is 00:05:58 which I tend not to at this point. But if you actually think any of it matters, the testimony that you're waiting for is Gordon Sondland, who actually spoke with Trump, had conversations with Trump, has switched his testimony already, right? He is testifying next Wednesday. And then there are a bunch of people who are sort of on deck who are, who have been subpoenaed but have not responded to the subpoena and have filed lawsuits. And that would be John Bolton and McMulvaney and Rudy Giuliani, those three.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Because if you haven't talked to Trump, you basically don't matter in this conversation because the entire conversation is about motive, right? I'm the only one who's been saying this for months. There's the whole group of people who have been saying, well, the call was absolutely perfect, perfect. Okay, it wasn't perfect. Can we just stop with this? It wasn't a perfect call because, come on.
Starting point is 00:06:38 It wasn't like, that's not what Trump does. Okay, perfect is not in Trump's wheelhouse. He doesn't even aim at perfect. That's right. It's just perfect as a description of everything that he thinks he does. But what is obviously the most plausible explanation of all of his behavior, and this is the case I've been making for a long time, is that when he says to Ukraine in that phone call that what he would like is a favor
Starting point is 00:06:59 is investigations into Brezma and Biden. He would like investigations into crowd strike. he would like investigations into Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election, that he's just naming a bunch of crap that he thinks about Ukraine, because people have been feeding him information about Ukraine, and this is the way the president's brain works. He basically has a bunch of note cards, and the note cards have seven words on them each,
Starting point is 00:07:18 and if you give him a topic, if you say global warming, then what comes out is destroy economy Chinese hoax. And if you say to him, Ukraine, the first thing that comes out to him is interfered in the 2016 election, Burisma, Hillary Clinton, crowd strike. It's just whatever comes out of his head. And so it is quite plausible. I think it is, in fact, most plausible explanation, that if he was thinking, I don't feel like giving aid to Ukraine,
Starting point is 00:07:40 because who else is paying for this aid? Only we're paying for the aid. I'm not intruent. Also, people keep saying Ukrainian corruption. Well, when I think of Ukrainian corruption, here are some things that I think about. And then it just comes out. I think this is actually really important because I think we all agree.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I can't speak for Michael and Drew. I think we all agree that if we had listened to the phone call between Donald Trump and the Ukrainian president, And he had said, we're going to help you out. The Europeans should be doing more. But first, we need a favor. I've been trying to get a hotel in downtown Kiev for like 22 years. And you guys are so corrupt that I can't get my permit.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Could you get on the phone with my personal lawyer and my daughter and get that worked out for me? I think we would all agree. Definitely an abuse of presidential power. I would be willing to call it an abuse of power. Yes, I would. Definitely an abuse of presidential power. Now, he did say, I want a favor. He used that word, and he did say talk to my personal attorney.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And he did say in the list of things that he rattles off, Joe Biden, something in which he has a personal vested interest. The mitigating factor is Donald Trump. The way that I see it, Donald Trump is not a guy with a grand strategy. He has some big ideas that he generally points himself toward winning, Not losing. Not losing. Not losing.
Starting point is 00:09:04 An isolationist, generally, an isolationist foreign policy. These are things that we know that he generally cares about. He generally still steers in the direction of. But electoral strategy, there were casting notices for Trump TV going out the night of the election. Donald Trump does not have, he's never, I think, in his 40 years of public life, demonstrated that kind of strategy. What he has demonstrated is that he spends a lot of time looking back with, a sort of vindictive spirit.
Starting point is 00:09:34 You say that he has a reporter once reported that he had very small hands. Decades later, Donald Trump would still send that reporter signed photographs of his hands to demonstrate how perfectly large they are. If somebody insults him, he never lets go of the insult. Ten years later, he'll be on Twitter fighting the feuds that existed before Twitter even existed, right? So, if Donald Trump believes that there was corruption, that that corruption targeted him personally in 2016, that is something that's going to be very hard for Donald Trump to let go of.
Starting point is 00:10:09 He's a dog with a bone when it comes to a vendetta. The problem is, even if he weren't a dog with a bone, and even if it wasn't a vendetta, if Ukrainians were involved, even if they weren't, but he has reason to believe that they were involved in circumventing the 2016 election, that's a legitimate concern for the president of the United States. And, you know, yesterday, during the testimony,
Starting point is 00:10:31 of these two big witnesses that the Democrats were so excited to bring, George Kent and Gordon, not Gordon Sondland, and Bill Taylor. And George Kent was asked, is it legitimate for the President of the United States in regard to Ukraine policy to ask them to investigate this sort of corruption? And George Kent said, absolutely it is. They asked Bill Taylor, do you have evidence of this quid pro quo? Do you have any firsthand account? He said, nope, I spoke to Gordon Sondland. He said, I got the quid pro quo wrong, and I don't have any firsthand evidence. It's that pretense. pretence because the fancy people in suits and ties are going to go on TV like they did on CBS News and say this was devastating testimony today. Anybody who watched so it was devastating
Starting point is 00:11:11 for Adam Schiff, not for Donald Trump. But this is the thing that bothers me about this whole thing. At this point, I actually believe the left uses absurdity as a strategy. Because if you say, if I say, well, men and women are the same and you say, well, wait, here's the science. We can have an argument about that. It may be a stupid thing to say, but at least we can have an argument about it. But if I say to you, a man menstruates, even talking about it elevates it beyond the level of stupidity they're at. I feel that way about this impeachment. I go on, I have to talk about it. It's the news. We all have to talk about it's the news. I feel that even talking about it is elevating it above its seriousness. The idea that this is an impeachable offense, an offense
Starting point is 00:11:52 that actually somehow threatens the polity, that threatens the Constitution, that even if even if you're sitting there going, I'm going to get that Joe Biden because I'm really afraid a guy whose teeth falls out every time he talks. And his eyes explode during debates. I just think this whole thing, they have been calling for impeachment since before he even won the election. They were talking about an insurance policy against him. They were talking about impeachment the minute it started. They came up. I mean, it is kind of like what Devin Nunes said. They come out with a strategy. It's Russian collusion. It's not Russian collusion. It's obstruction of justice. It's not obstruction of justice. It's not an obstruction of Ukraine. It's going to be his pants size.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Well, it was his pants size with Stormy Daniels, which was in the middle. And then, as you say, they go on and they do this ridiculous stuff. And Nora of Donald, who has got to be one of the worst personalities on television, takes this fake action stance. Have you watched the way she just, she stands like this? And she said, it was devastating. The walls are closing in. It's the end of the beginning.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It's the beginning of the end. It's explosive. You know, and you go like, what the hell? She even said, she even said, if you're bored, you were just not paying attention. I thought, no, I actually know when I'm bored. I don't need you to tell me on the field. So I just feel like even we have to talk about it. Obviously, it's the news.
Starting point is 00:13:06 But I feel this thing is absurd. I feel it is completely staged. It's completely meaningless that we know who Donald Trump is. We know he says these things. You know, I don't agree with you guys. I don't agree with you guys about Trump. I think he's a smart guy with a strategy. But, but.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I used to think you were a smart guy. I got that ends right now. But he's a big mouth. And he says things and he talks off the cuff. This would actually be his best strategy, right? Would be for him to say, yeah, I'm a big mouth and I say things. Right? I mean, like, if you just said that, everybody would be like, all right, fair.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah, fair. I really feel like one of the things that he does is one of the critical sins that many presidents commit, which is overselling. And so you'll hear president say things. Trump or you. Right? No, but Trump is gifted at this, right? I mean, what you'll hear president say is, we're going to aim for 4% GDP growth. And then it comes in at like 3.6% GDP growth.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And everybody was like, oh, well, he fell short of expectation. That was a really solid GDP growth, right? What if he just pitched three? Why don't you undersell? This actually Clinton was very good at this. Clinton would actually undersell. And then if it slightly surpassed expectations, it was a huge win for him. Well, Trump, because he's constantly overselling, instead of him just saying, look, I say things, right?
Starting point is 00:14:11 I go in, I'm on a phone call. I say things. I'm not corrupt. If he just said that, we'd all be like, all right. But instead it was the perfect, most unbelievable phone. And now you've got Congress people who are in the unenviable position of having to explain why this phone call was perfect, as opposed to just saying what all the rest of us are saying, which is, yeah, dude says stuff. And he really didn't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:14:30 It's not great. It's not part of the Trump peculiarity is that he does talk like a North Korean dictator. And it does cause his supporters to then have to either say things that are going to put them at odds with him or say things that make them sound patently absurd. I actually thought that our friend Dennis Prager did a terrific job on his appearance on Bill Maher last week. Yeah. When Bill Maher brought up some of these things that President Trump has said, like, I can't remember the quote. his glorious mind and all this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:01 And Prager was like, I mean, I don't know if he said that. Did he say that? Yeah, he said that. Well, of course, that's silly. I thought, well, yeah, that is how you have to, that is how you have to react to Donald Trump. Before we talk more about this, I mentioned at the top of the show that we need your subscriptions,
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Starting point is 00:17:03 I was like, what is the equivalent here? You're the linguist. It's very difficult because the fellow is also a guy. It's very, they've anticipated transgenderism. Maybe Trump really is as smart as Andrew thinking. Well, I mean, with all of this said, none of this is going to have any major impact on Trump, which leads me to believe that the Democratic proclamations that they're going to try and move as fast on this thing as possible, just a lie. I don't think that's right. I think that they're looking at this field and they're
Starting point is 00:17:30 thinking, okay, what we, what we need to do is avoid talking about these. Because this field is just sheer effing garbage. I mean, and it is. It is garbage. Top to bottom. You've got Joe Biden, who is not even alive. He's not a living human being. Right? They've dug up a corpse and they've called it Joe Biden. They wheel it around. Every so often, his, every so often, his jaw falls open and sound comes out. And that's Joe Biden's candidacy. And that guy's your frontrunner. Listen, two years from now, we're going to be sitting here doing this show. And Drew's going to say, I think you guys are wrong about Biden. He's very much alive. He might be alive. Yeah, exactly. And then you've got our good friend Elizabeth Warren. And Elizabeth Warren is, I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:12 the more you see her, the more you dislike her. And she, it's amazing. Because she started off and everybody's like, yeah, she's terrible. And then they're like, second look at Elizabeth Warren. And the media were obsessed with Elizabeth Warren. Every plan, every plan, every one. Everything she said. It's genius. It's brilliant. She went to Harvard Law and she was a professor. Sure, she earned it by proclaiming that she was a Native American, but she's a professor. And by the way, don't believe all the hype when they say, oh, well, Harvard law never looked at that. Really? Then why was she putting it on her application? Why was Harvard putting out press releases about it?
Starting point is 00:18:38 Correct. I mean, it's all nonsense. So she is, but it was all just glowing media coverage. And then people get a load of her and they're like, oh, my God, she is awful. And this war on billionaires thing. By the way, like they say that all this plays because the vast majority of the American people are for the wealth tax. Right, because anytime you say to somebody, how would you like if you took somebody richer's money from them and then gave it to you? How do you think that's going to pull? I mean, obviously, that's going to pull generally well.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Dan Heninger in the journal wrote a really interesting piece where he said she may have actually destroyed the left because Bernie Sanders is smart enough to never say when anything's going to cost or what he's actually going to do where she did put out a detailed plan of her health plan and everybody looked at it, even the left looked at it. And they laughed at it. Well, it's laughable because she literally just false
Starting point is 00:19:23 the numbers. I mean, she claimed that she was going to take a plan that by every estimate costs over $30 trillion over 10 years and make it cost $20 trillion over 10 years. She was going to double count all of the taxation that she had already declared was going for other purposes. She was going to triple the wealth tax, not 2%, but 6%. By the way, can we talk for a second about this wealth tax nonsense? Because people do not understand what a wealth tax is. They do not. They think that this is just an increase in the income tax. I think this is bullshit. Okay, like, pardon the language, but it's bullshit. Okay, wealth tax is one of the worst ideas ever created by the huge. human mind. Okay, it's basically the equivalent of an estate tax. So when you die, the government,
Starting point is 00:19:56 because they're terrible, they decide that they're going to step over your corpse, pry open your safe, take all the money you've already paid taxes on, and then steal it from you so that you can't give it to your children, which, of course, was the entire purpose of you earning money over the course of your lifetime. The estate tax is patent evil. Okay, so now, but it's not just the pry open the safe. they then assess the value of every piece of property that you own, including your business interest and your stocks. And then they take 40% of that if you haven't been smart enough to get a Living Trust. Folks, go check out a living trust at LegalZoom.com today. Make it happen
Starting point is 00:20:22 right now. Do not give that money to the damned federal government. Okay. So, you know what's especially stupid about this wealth tax is she says she's only going to go after the billionaires. It's a familiar storyline. There are about 621 billionaires in the United States. Their combined wealth,
Starting point is 00:20:39 not their income, their wealth. The money that they have is a little over $3 trillion dollars, and I'm actually being generous here with my estimates. If you took every single penny they had, you took the shirt off their back, you left them destitute. You would not pay a tiny fraction of this plan, which is it $20 trillion, is it $30 trillion. The whole plan is $52 trillion. You pay for one year worth of a plan. Or less, or less than one year. What do you do then? But to get back to the details
Starting point is 00:21:03 of what a wealth tax is so people understand how evil a wealth tax is. A wealth tax requires the government and you to assess the value of everything that you own every single year and then take a percentage off the top of that. So when she says 2% of your wealth, okay, let's take an example. we have a business here at Daily Wire. The business earns money. We have to assess the value of the business. We have to add up the leftist-stairs, tumblers, the grapes, the lights, the cameras. And I'll tell you who this. I'll tell you who this. I'll tell you this absolutely F's. The person, the people at absolutely F's, are the business owners. Because if you own a business, let's say that you own a business, for the sake of argument and the business, so the wealth tax is supposed to kick in at $50 million is what she says now. Right. As soon as you get to $50 million, every dollar above that, and you're going to start paying into this routine. Okay. So let's say that you have a business. and the business is worth $50 million. But what that actually means is that the business is being valued by three times it's gross,
Starting point is 00:21:52 basically. So let's say that the business makes $17 million this year and you, being a good boss, you're only paying yourself half a million dollars, right? All the rest of it goes to expenses, all the rest goes to cost, all the rest goes to employees. So you're paying yourself half a million dollars, and it's a $17 million a year business. But it's valued at $50 million because it's using three times gross to value the business. That means that your net worth, you make half a million dollars a year. But it means that you will be paying 2% of $50 million.
Starting point is 00:22:20 You'll be paying $1 million in taxes on an income of $500,000 a year. It's even worse than that. It means because it's not like that money even is sitting in the bank. You're not paying yourself half a million dollars and leaving $20 million in the bank. This is right. What this means is you will have to liquidate assets in order to pay the tax. Correct. People think of these Silicon Valley billionaires, right?
Starting point is 00:22:42 I read a story two years ago about Mark Zuckerberg, founder of Facebook, worth something, at the time, something like $70 billion. I don't know he's worth today. At the time he's worth $120 billion or something. Yeah, billion dollars. And he had put in, because he has to file this with the SEC and with his board, he had put in that he wanted to liquidate $1 billion worth of his whole, worth of his interest in Facebook. Silicon Valley went into a panic. And at the time, it was the most money that any Silicon Valley tech founder had ever tried to convert into cash out of their business. Stock prices start to dive because they think, well, if the founder and CEO is selling his stock, we must need to get out as well. And then the whole net worth, not only of him,
Starting point is 00:23:26 but of people with mutual funds, people with 401ks, everybody invested in the market starts to collapse. What that means is, if we started a broom company, and we invented the best broom anybody's ever had, and we manufacture them, and we sell our brooms, and promo code Shapiro, We sell a ton of them. And then we sell our broom company to some... Hillary Clinton, probably. Hillary Clinton. The only person we could afford it.
Starting point is 00:23:53 We sell it to Hillary Clinton for $3 billion. And by the time you pay out your taxes, you pay out all your employees, you pay all your legal costs. Let's say we clear, there's $1 billion left in Jeremy Boring's account. I doubt that I have much less money than plenty of guys who are on paper worth $20 billion. That's right, because they are. Zuckerberg's fortune is in his stock. Jeff Bezos's fortune is in his stock. Don't get me wrong, they have access to all kinds of wealth through the company, money that they pay themselves in salary.
Starting point is 00:24:25 They're doing great. But a guy who sells a company for $3 billion probably has more cash on hand than these billion. And the reason that that matters is because that stock is also invested in other companies, which are hiring people. Right. That's right. And when you make them liquidate, you have to liquidate, you bring the whole value of the stock market down. But he's going to, fewer people are going to get hired.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Fewer people's retirements are going to come through. The short way of saying this, which is just true, is the left no longer understands why business is there except to fund their plans. They have absolutely no clue about the value of work, about the dignity of work, about the dignity of building stuff, about the magic of inventing stuff. Or how the economy grows, right? I mean, there's a study today. What makes it beautiful? I mean, this is what makes this country so great is people building things, you know, like just building things out of nothing sitting in their garage and building billion-dollar companies. This is an amazing thing, and they just think it's there to fund their plans.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I actually want to say something about this before we take questions. There's a kind of ethics that most people never have to contemplate, but as a business owner, you have to contemplate this kind of ethics. It's the ethics of business. When is it moral to fire someone? When is it immoral not to fire someone? What do you do with profits in your company? How do you invest in diversity?
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah, hold on. I don't know. I don't know. Let's take the questions. Let's go under questions. But these are actually ethical questions. They affect people's lives. There's right and wrong answers.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And it can be a little bit challenging to navigate some of those waters. One of the things that bothers me as a business owner is when I hear people who've never contemplated the ethics of business, condemn business people as unethical. Did you know that 58% of working Americans, I just wanted this today, say that they would trust a stranger more than their boss? This is offensive. Patently absurd. Patently absurd. It's offensive because your boss absolutely trusts you.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Otherwise, they wouldn't have hired you and put you in a position to advance or harm their interests. So they're putting their trust in you and the majority of their workers don't trust them in return. And the reason is because people like Bernie Sanders and people like Elizabeth Warren
Starting point is 00:26:32 constantly say the CEO class is against you. The CEO class employs you. They say the billionaires are stealing from you. The billionaires have created so much wealth that global poverty, not just America, global poverty is at an all-time low. If you have a job in America today, you have an entrepreneur to thank. And there's this sort of- Well over half of Americans are employed by a company that employs more than, more than, I think it's 2,500 people. That's right. A huge percentage, like most people in America now work for- But they do it. Nobody likes his boss. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You don't have to like your boss. But let me tell you something about your boss. But you have to contemplate- No, I understand. I'm just saying they're playing off a natural. Of course, of course. And that all makes sense. But I can tell you because Jeremy and I have sat in the office together when we've had employment discussions. We lose sleep over employment discussions. Of course you do. I mean, you know how many times I've said I want to fire him, Jeremy? I know we've wrestled you to the ground.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I mean, but the fact is, but it is true that the vast majority of people who employ people are the kinds of people, really, who are straining not to fire people, especially small business owners. But this is true for large business owners also. You think that they are desperate to lay off 10. tens of thousands of people. You think that they, because I can tell you something right now, if Mark Zuckerberg wanted to liquidate all of his wealth right now, there are a lot of people in this country who would lose their jobs. And he'd walk away a very wealthy man, so he could do that, but he's not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:27:52 And that's true of all of these billionaires. And I just want to go back, though, to the fact that this is what life is. It's guys like you who have an idea, you build something. Guys like me, write a book. People are creating things, making things, even if they make it by their daily labor, you make something. And these people make nothing. And I want to say on the ethical piece, yes, everybody dislikes their boss,
Starting point is 00:28:15 and that's the price of doing business, I totally get it. But covetousness is one of the big ten in the Bible, the big ten things you're not supposed to do it. Very few people walk around being encouraged to murder. Right. Just murder. Murder's great. You deserve to murder. Very few people walk around committing adultery as though they're being encouraged by the culture.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Now, you might say that the culture puts. Wings at it. Wings at it. But the culture isn't going, cheat on your wife. Cheating on your wife is great. I cheat on my wife. You should cheat on your wife. Covetousness, on the other hand, there is an entire political movement in this country dedicated to telling you that you deserve what you did not create, that you deserve what you did not earn. Winston Churchill called socialism the gospel of envy. That's not just a cute line. It's a penis side. The most important political line of the last 20 years is one that people tend to ignore.
Starting point is 00:29:02 It's when Barack Obama was specifically asked whether if he increased marginal tax rates and it lowered economic, growth and led to lower employment, whether he would still do it. And he said, yes, for purposes of fairness. That's right. So that is, that is pure and simple. I hate rich people. I hate rich. And rich people need to be taken. Now he's a very rich person, obviously. I want to say this. I want to say this. There's a, there's an attitude among the working class that is offensive and it's wrong. And if you're, if you're an employee in a company, you should evaluate this. Not because you're not, I mean, there's a great line in, uh, uh, the edge with, with Anthony Hopkins. Yeah, great movie.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Alex Baldwin. David Mamet. Yeah, written by our friend David Mamet, where Anthony Hopkins says to Baldwin, never feel sorry for a man with a jet. You don't have to feel sorry for your boss. That's not my point. But you should reflect on your own attitudes and your own biases. You see a similar attitude. I don't like it with a sort of women's power movement. If guys wear a shirt that says, I can do whatever I want, you can't tell me nothing, that'd be bad, but women can kind of encourage each other in that.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Similar with the way that this sort of blue-collar attitude. It's an attitude that says, we're the real-we're the real-we're the real-collar attitude. It's an attitude that says we're the real workers. We're the people who are really making things possible. We're the ones who are irreplaceable. The big muckety-muck up top, he's nothing. He's just a guy who's stealing all of our labor. It's obviously untrue.
Starting point is 00:30:22 This doesn't mean that there isn't dignity in what you do. There is. If you work hard, do your best and deliver no matter where you are on the hierarchy of employment, you're doing something that has an amazing value. you're doing something for which you should be proud. You're doing something that makes the world work for every other productive member of society. It is also true that if Warren Buffett owns a railroad, and on that railroad, there are 100,000 people working on the train,
Starting point is 00:30:49 and there are 10,000 people in middle management managing the people on the train, and above that there are 1,000 people who are executives over the middle management, and they're involved in strategy. And above that, there's Warren Buffett, who has to make decisions every single day life and death decisions about how to make that succeed, make a profit so that all those other people can get paid or lose a profit. All those people lose their jobs and all the 401Ks that are invested in that company
Starting point is 00:31:13 lose their retirements. The further you go up that pyramid, the more irreplaceable the work of the person gets. But you know, this is why when you're at the bottom of that and you retire, the company goes on. But when Warren Buffett dies, the railroad will go into a moment of crisis where they try to determine now who's going to be the one who's responsible for determining whether or not all these employees get paid or they don't. So one of the misnomer's of modern American politics is that this is a working class mentality. I really don't think it is. And if you look at the polls inside the
Starting point is 00:31:43 Democratic Party, what you will see is that a huge percentage of the support for Elizabeth Warren is coming from college graduates, you know, highly, highly educated to be. It ain't the working class. It ain't the working class. The working class understands that people who work in this in this country. It used to be, I remember in England during the 70s, and England during the 70s was a horrible. Before Thatcher? It was amazing. And they used to say, with admiration to me, they would say, you know, when we see a guy go by in a Rolls-Royce, we think I'm going to bring that guy down. He said, when you see a guy go by in a Rolls-Royce, you think, I'm going to get one of those.
Starting point is 00:32:13 That's right. That's the way Americans used to think. You can twist that. Obviously, they did in Britain. You can twist people's minds until they're filled with envy. But, you know, the thing that you're talking about, too, is the hidden meritocracy of the left. Because they say, you know, if you put out a pet rock and you make a million bucks, you, you, earned that million bucks. That's an idea. I did put out of Pet Rock and I made a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:32:37 That idea was worth something. What have they done? What have they done that they get to spend the money you made? This is the thing that drove me up a wall. Did you see that clip of Bernie Sanders sitting next to AOC and the weirdest version of the odd couple ever? The goodness is I think we know who we cast as Alex, Oscar, and who he cast his feelings. It took me three weeks to figure out that FU meant something, something pudding. But the fact that- It's a great. It's a great play. But there's that clip of Bernie Sanders saying, you know, the arrogance of Michael Bloomberg and these billionaires want to get into politics because they think that because of the rich, they should run your life. And I thought to myself, you are a professional useless person. A professional useless person. You have been paid. You have been kicked out of a commune for being useless. And then you're like, you know where I can go to be even more useless and people will give me money? I can go into local state and federal government. And you've spent the last 50 years providing nothing. Zero things.
Starting point is 00:33:33 You have not created a single job that was not paid for by the taxpayer. You have not passed a single major piece of legislation. You have done nothing. Zero things. And you're sitting here saying that because, listen, I don't like Michael Bloomberg either. I think he's a schmuck. But Michael Bloomberg has at least created some jobs. He's actually run a business.
Starting point is 00:33:47 In fact, he was actually a fairly successful mayor of New York. You are literally a professional useless person who is old and crazy. And you scream at the moon. And you're sitting there being like, all these billionists want to get in politics, how arrogant. I think to myself, okay, which is more arrogant? The guy who has created jobs for probably tens of thousands of people who says, you know what, I can bring that same sort of sensibility to government, or the guy who has created nothing ever in the history of his entire life, who says, I want to run every single aspect of your life forever. Who is more
Starting point is 00:34:18 arrogant? You finally said something nice about Donald Trump. No, I mean, but that's true. I mean, I didn't have any objections to Donald Trump running for office on the basis of his business record. I've never thought that a political career was actually the basis for being a good president of the United States. Every president we've had has basically been a politician, and most of them been schmucks. That's right. So, like, that's not a, that's not a thing. So, our pals over ExpressVPN. I love ExpressVPN.
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Starting point is 00:35:07 Somebody tried to do it yesterday. Yeah. I mean, somebody tried to steal my stuff yesterday. Yeah, I mean, it is, it's happened to me, and it is no fun. And this is one of the reasons why you should be using a VPN. And the best VPN on the market is, of course, Express at VPN. You know, they've been on this show and my show for so long that you already know the pitch, right? You already know why it's important to encrypt your data, protect it from Big Tech, which wants to monetize your data. It's your data. Big Tech shouldn't be monetizing it. They want it. They want, the government wants to monitor exactly what you're doing every hour of the day. So if you sleep easy at night knowing that Elizabeth Warren can visit your websites that you visited, then more power to you.
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Starting point is 00:36:46 That's Warren Tears as in the mighty Elizabeth Warren, and the tears are the tears that she will be weeping when we sue her for plagiarism. Okay, the best part of this story is somebody in our DailyWare social media team, Yes. Looked at, did you see this thing? It's amazing. It's so good. So they looked at her website, right, where she's selling these billionaire tiers. And it says, powered by Shopify.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Shopify, of course, is owned by a man who's worth $3.2 billion. Capitalism always wins. By the way, quick, for the last note on the wealth tax, and then we can do the questions. Quick note on the wealth tax, there was a study that came out in the New York Times today. And what it found out was that it was a, I think it was done by University of Pennsylvania, analyzing the wealth tax. And what it found is that over the course of the next decade, Elizabeth Warren's proposals, could, they predict, would lower the economic growth rate in the United States
Starting point is 00:37:35 from 1.5% to 1.3%. So 0.2%. That's annually every single year. Okay, that is a massive amount of money. To explain how massive an amount of money, that is, the same people forecast that Donald Trump's tax cuts would increase the growth of the United States over the course of the next 10 years by 0.06 per year. Okay. What that means is that the downside of Elizabeth Warren is three times the upside of the Trump tax cut. Okay, and that is if you use the rosy estimates, if you actually believe that she's going to be able to seize this wealth and people aren't going to simply move, which is what happened in France. 40,000 millionaires moved out of France, which is why every country that's ever tried this garbage wealth tax, which, by the way, is also
Starting point is 00:38:13 unconstitutional under Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution. It's never going to happen, but she is a bad person. She's a bad person because she's making it part of the narrative. Of course, it's not going to happen. Even if she's elected president, there is a 0% chance that this wealth tax goes into. I think she's a bad person because she knows all this. She does. She's smarter than this. And she's known all this for years.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Every point that she makes now, she's previously taken the opposite side of, every story she's ever told that turns out is probably fall off. She's a wildly disingenuous human being. Plus, she stole my leftist tears, hotter cold tumbler, and made her billionaire tears mug. And guys, billionaires cried tears of gold.
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Starting point is 00:39:07 Okay, really, I promise. No, we'll interrupt. It's the last thing. It's the last thing. Okay, because it'll escape my mind, then it'll be gone forever. And then no one will be able to share in the brilliant pearls of wisdom
Starting point is 00:39:15 that fall from these lips. Elizabeth Warren, there is something so deeply immoral about the idea that billionaires are not allowed to complain about people harming them. Right, really? Like, that is an immoral proposition. It's an immoral proposition.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I mean, her basic suggestion is that if somebody sees a billionaire on the street and punches them and beats the living crap out of them, that because they're a billionaire, that's okay. I mean, she is a Dantan-Robes-Pierre French revolutionary character. I mean, that is the kind of language that she uses. Yeah. And what she neglects to mention is that she's worth $12 million. She'll be one of the first people on the key. He said when he was saying.
Starting point is 00:39:51 All right. I want to hear from our Daily Wire subscribers. They keep us on the air. So, Alicia, are you with us? Yep, and I got to say, if I were Catholic, I'd be going to confessional tomorrow because I'm pretty envious of a Fokohannis carving that somehow made it into the studio before I did. I didn't know what you're talking about. I'm not she's in a different room. Maybe you can't see.
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Starting point is 00:40:50 and apparently get a leftist-tears Tumblr before Elizabeth Warren becomes president and bans them. So our first question comes from a, subscriber, we want to know on the topic of immigration, how do we as Americans assimilate to our own culture and values before we can assimilate immigrants to do the same? Thanks for all the work that you guys do. Andrew? I don't actually understand. I think the basic idea is that Americans don't understand our own values. How can we hope to assimilate immigrants to our values? I think that that is the great lie of illegal immigration and unfettered immigration is the idea that we can let people
Starting point is 00:41:20 in without causing them to be us. This is the whole thing. If you don't want to come to this country, you must, you have to be able and willing to leave behind the assumptions and practices of your culture and adopt the assumptions and practices of our culture. And the advantages, the assumptions and practices of our culture are written down. They're written down in the Constitution. They're written down in the Declaration. You cannot come over here and say, yeah, I want to come over here. But I don't want to ascribe to this people are equal stuff or people should be free stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I come from a country. I want you to be more like my country. I hear this in taxi cabs in New York all the time, by the way, People say, I don't like this liberty very. The driver will say to me, I don't like this liberty very much. I'll say, you know, go to LaGuardia, go to JFK, you can fly right the hell out of here. There's no problem. What taxis are you taking, man?
Starting point is 00:42:08 No, but this is actually true that what the left wants is not just unfettered immigration. It's unfettered immigration without assimilation, and you can't have it. And I think that this has become a huge problem in discussing this. Because when you say, well, what country do you come from? while I come from Saudi Arabia. And are you willing to leave behind the idea that women are chatteled? Well, no, I'm not. Get the hell out.
Starting point is 00:42:31 You know, I mean, this is something, we have values here. We have them, we're not like Europe. We have them written down. It's not based on race. I don't care where it came from. It's not based on race. It's not based on the color of your skin. It's based on desire.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Do you want to be one of us? And I think that this is something we have to argue for. We can, you know, the problem that we have on the right is we do have these guys, the all right guys that you've been taking. on brilliantly, by the way, you've been taking on these all right guys who are racist. They're haters. And we have nothing to do with them. I want nothing to do with them.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I don't want to be associated with them. But to say that you have to ascribe to the non-racist, pro-liberty, pro-equality ideals that made this country what it is. Of course that's true. And you can't do that if you don't, we don't know who you are. And so the old immigration was so well regulated, was so, you know, people were asked questions, people were given medical tests to see if they had diseases that they were going to spread. This idea that we can just open our borders and that makes us welcoming and compassionate
Starting point is 00:43:26 is nonsense. By the way, the virulence of this idea, that immigration should be race-space, which is an ugly, ugly idea. The virulence of that idea, I was thinking about this the other day, like, why is that cropping up now? And I will say that I think that the left has a heavy hand of blame here, because I think that the left has spent years claiming that there is going to be a demographic change in the country and that the demographics of the country are destiny, right? They keep saying this. They wrote books about this. They would say, well, you know, there will come a day when there's a non-white majority in America. And that inevitably means that there will be a change in the politics.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And I thought to myself, well, that is pure unbridled racist. You are now saying that because there are more Hispanics in the country, then therefore that means that necessarily there will be more leftists in the country. And then you're saying, I want to bring in millions more illegal immigrants across the border and then give them an amnesty. So what do you think people are going to think? These are the people who are reacting with racism are not doing any better. They're doing it. They're doing it just as badly.
Starting point is 00:44:17 They're horrible. All of them are horrible. The whole point is that immigration, again, should be driven. by ideas. And the fact that the left has said a couple of things, I wrote an entire column about this week because there's an interesting piece by Yoni Applebaum in the Atlantic suggesting, well, Republicans seem to have forgotten
Starting point is 00:44:30 about the idea that their ideas can appeal to anybody. Instead, they're just suggesting that their ideas can only appeal to a certain racial subset. And that is why they keep going back to the white working class. And I thought to myself, well, no, that's not true. But it is true that the left has been saying that conservative ideas can only apply to a certain
Starting point is 00:44:46 subset, namely white working class people maybe, and that everybody else is not susceptible to conservative ideas. I think to be fair, to be fair for a moment that Republican politicians have been feckless when it comes to walking in to neighborhoods where we're not usually welcome and making their case. And the reason they're feckless about it because they're afraid. They're afraid because
Starting point is 00:45:07 every time Mitt Romney did it, he went to the NWACP, and they said, how could you, how dare, they actually said this, how dare you tell black people they should start businesses when they can't even hold bank accounts? This is the Democrats said. And if we don't go in and make the argument, I mean, that's the thing you got to love about Trump. He said, what have you got to lose? Why don't you sign up and see what happens?
Starting point is 00:45:26 And if anybody who did sign up, who is a person of color, as they say now, is doing really well because of Donald Trump. And yet, and yet, I mean, look at Rudy Giuliani. I know Rudy Giuliani today is kind of a loony, but he was one of the greatest mayors, if not the greatest mayor, New York ever had. And he turned New York around from a cesspit, which I lived in, to one of the greatest world, probably the greatest city on Earth. And that was almost all Giuliani. Every single day, he was called a racist. His policy saved an estimated 4,000 black lives. And now today they're saying, well, it was mass imprisonment.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Nobody was put in prison in mass. People were put in prison for breaking the law. One at a time. One at a time. I actually think it's a fairly simple question, and there's historical precedent for it, too. And I think it is entirely the left's fault. And I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that. We right now have the highest foreign-born population as a percentage of the total American population,
Starting point is 00:46:19 that we've had since 1890, which was another period of mass immigration, when many of our ancestors came over here, some of mine included. And this created an assimilation crisis. And that was at a time when there was a great encouragement to assimilate. And this led to tighter immigration controls from the early 20th century up until 1965 when Teddy Kennedy opened up the floodgates again. And now we have not only 1.2 million legal immigrants coming every year, but an extra million illegal aliens coming on top of that. Assimulation is very, very difficult, even in the best of time. That's right. When you have the entire left in this country actively encouraging you not to assimilate, that is going to create the crisis that people are experiencing now. In the 1990s,
Starting point is 00:46:59 you had William F. Buckley Jr. and Ariana Huffington, of all people, arguing for drastically lowering rates of legal immigration. Because they were racist bigots? No, absolutely not, but because of this problem of assimilation and because America is so great and has historically been so welcoming to immigrants that you want to be able to preserve that. If we simply told the left We're not going to take it anymore. You're not going to bully us on this. We are going to assimilate people to American culture. If that means a reduction in immigration for some period of time, that's what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And you can't stop us. If we just had a little backbone on that issue. By the way, we should define this also because the fact is that if you look at the studies, what the studies tend to show is that people do learn the English language. About the same rate, they were learning the English language before. So there is assimilation going on in terms of the English language. But that's not really what people are talking about. People are really talking about is level of belief in the government running lives.
Starting point is 00:47:47 But this is actually the real problem. Yes. So, you know, when conservatives will say some illegal immigrant will rape someone or murder someone, and then they make a big to-do about the fact that that happened, and then the left will say, Americans rape each other all the time, Americans rape and murder each other all the time. We understand that the reason it's different when an illegal immigrant does it is because, yes, all people are flawed and you're going to have rapes and murders,
Starting point is 00:48:13 even if you don't have immigration. but why should you have to have this rape or this murder from someone who didn't have the legal right to be here? This one could have been prevented, and we know exactly how it could have been prevented. The same is true here, I think, almost in reverse. We're saying it's bad that people come into the country and they don't assimilate to the traditional American ethic, the traditional American set of values, the creed. But the fundamental problem is we're not inculcating that creed in actual Americans. This is exactly right.
Starting point is 00:48:46 It turns out that assimilation to the free market is very easy when there's no welfare state. And it turns out when there's an enormous welfare state. It's a big problem. It changes the nature of people who are going to come here. You draw a different crowd when you leave the front door open and say free donors, right? If you're a legal immigrant, you want to become a citizen, you have to take a test. Most Americans can't pass this.
Starting point is 00:49:03 That's right. Right. And it's also, it is more than even just having them agree to a few things. It is also about American customs. and hot dogs in the 4th of July. And you have the left in this country saying that the American flag, the symbol of the country itself. And that cultural appropriation, the best thing about this country, the best thing about this country is come in, we'll wear your funny hat, but you have to be free. You know, we'll eat your food, but you have to be free.
Starting point is 00:49:28 That's all we ask. I mean, it's a wonderful thing that we culturally appropriate things. I promise that this is probably the last time that Beto O'Rourke will ever be mentioned in the show. Orr-Hen or anywhere. Exactly, exactly. But this all comes down to the image. You want to know what the immigration problem is right now in America. It is the image of Beta O'Rourke standing in front of new immigrants to the United States
Starting point is 00:49:48 and talking about how America is indubitably racist and will continue to be racist forever and why America is terrible. And always always. That's the whole thing. That's the whole thing. They openly say this. This is the thing. Sometimes I listen to myself and I think you sound like a conspiracy theorist, except they actually come out and say this.
Starting point is 00:50:03 America was never great. America was founded on racism, all these things which are literally untrue. Also, they're only for people who've never lived out. the country. I lived outside the country seven years. This is the least, the least racist country. It's not the studies to prove this. And if you want, and if you want numbers to prove it, there are numbers to prove it. There's a Swedish study that investigated how many Americans versus other countries were willing and interested in living in a neighbor who did not share their race. America came in at the top of the list. Of course. Ask somebody in France that question. Ask somebody in Japan that question. Ask, I mean, like,
Starting point is 00:50:34 it's as though America doesn't exist in the world and it's just like this, this weird island bubble. and that you get to pick on every flaw in America without reference to the fact that anything else has ever existed. That's right. At any time they use the word American something, it's always a lie because they'll say American racism. You think, is that different than other racism?
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah, there's less of it. That's the difference. I also think that it's funny that, like, people take arbitrary moments in history that aren't connected to practical human experience, and they make that the moment with something really, really, really, really mattered. So we've been fighting with the racist,
Starting point is 00:51:06 anti-Semites on the alt-right a little bit over the last few weeks, and they all want to focus on this event surrounding the USS Liberty, which was an American naval vessel that was bombed by the Israelis in the 60s. When Ben was giving a speech last night, people were in the comments going, we need reparations for the USS Liberty. And I thought, we got them. We didn't want to get them. Literally, Israel signed a check. But nevertheless, I always think you're going back to the 1960s to make an argument, which even if you're right about the event, and I don't think you are,
Starting point is 00:51:33 even if you're right, your argument is that 50 years ago, Israel pursued its interest, which did not align with an American interest. To Michael Knowles' point, go back 150 years before that and the British burdened by the this is how it is with the slavery argument, too. Like, America abolishes slavery in 1865. The British Empire abolished slavery in the 1840s. So somehow, now, 150 years later, the funny, the funny. The fundamental distinction between a good country and a bad country is a 20-year gap in time a century and a half before.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Otherwise, we'd be talking about how Britain has a state. They obviously don't care about that. Brazil didn't outlaw slavery until 1880. Yeah. But why does nobody talk about the original sin of Great Britain? The slavery baked into the DNA of Great Britain. Right, because Britain was the first country to get rid of it. The United States was acting very quickly from the founding to actually limit the importation of slaves.
Starting point is 00:52:32 This is why the ignorance of history to declare. Because Great Britain got rid of it 20 years before America got rid of it, and America had to fight as a bloodiest war in order to do it. None of the... I'm just saying that it's an absurdity to suggest that we're guilty of it, and the British are somehow free of the guilt. This is why I detest the press
Starting point is 00:52:50 and why I support Trump 100% in his war on the press. You go, we live in L.A., right? You go, I was the other day, I was with my wife at Hamami Burger, and while she was talking, I was pretending to listen to what She said, I was looking. I can only say that. I can only say that because I'm married long enough. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:07 All right. No, I'm looking around the. At this point, she's too old. You both are too old for you guys to get divorced enough, right? I mean, it's like. I'm looking around the room and there's Muslim people, there's Jewish people. I mean, openly, you know, wearing yarmacos and black people and white people, gay people and straight people.
Starting point is 00:53:23 It's L.A., right? Everybody's there, and everybody's getting along fine. In fact, there were straight people there in L. That's why I was there. And a zombie burger? And everybody's sitting there. getting along fine. And it's the press that gives a bullhorn to these people. It's so true. I remember I was sitting, I was sitting with David Mamet, and we were having lunch, and it was in, it was in a
Starting point is 00:53:44 restaurant in Sanaman, and I'm just dropping his name because he's very famous and an excellent writer. And you haven't had, and most of the people in our audience have not had lunch with David Mamet. So I've had lunch with. Hold on. Do you tell me, who did you have lunch with? It rhymes with David Mamet. In any case, David Mamet and I were sitting together. And it was me and David Mamet was talking. And as we looked around the restaurant, everybody looked at the fact that David Mamet was sitting there with me. As we looked around this restaurant, it's in the middle of Santa Monica, you know, close to Westwood Boulevard, it's gorgeous outside, it's beautiful. Everybody is sitting there in the middle of lunchtime, taking a long lunch. It's 1.30 in the afternoon. We're sitting there. And David Mamet's writer,
Starting point is 00:54:18 so it doesn't matter if David Mamet is, and everybody is drinking these $100 bottles of wine at the low end, right? And I just looked around and I thought, if I pulled this room right now, and I said, how close are we to a Civil War? Ninety-five percent of the people in this would say we are this close to a civil war. I just thought to myself, but they can't be bothered to, you know, get up from their drinks to actually think about this for five seconds
Starting point is 00:54:39 because the fact is they're enjoying their lives. They're pretty, pretty good. These things are good in this country, except on TV. I think, I actually think the reason that they're throwing all of this antipathy on the country and discouraging assimilation and everything about America's awful from Thomas Jefferson to the flag
Starting point is 00:54:54 is because of this line. You always hear this. Slavery is the original sin of America. It's not the original sin of all these other countries. It's just of America. That isn't true. Original sin is the original sin of America. And you've got to look in the mirror to understand that fact and the left doesn't do it. So, Alicia, we're going to hear from some more of our Daily Wire members.
Starting point is 00:55:13 All right. Next question from a subscriber. They want to know, what are your thoughts on the lawsuit that's being brought against Remington by members of the Sandy Hook families? So my understanding is, so the Supreme Court wrongly turned down a case that was to adjudicate the immunity of firearms manufacturers to lawsuits that were designed to. you go after firearms manufacturers. So typically there's a couple of categories of products liability. You're put on the legal hat for a second. So in products liability, there's manufacturer lying ability. So you manufacture a gun and it's defective and it blows up in somebody's hand. You can be sued for that.
Starting point is 00:55:45 There's also a form of basically advertising liability in which you misadvertise a product. You say that it can do something and it can't do something and now you're liable for that. There has never been a category of products liability in which a product is created. It fulfills what it is supposed to do. it is advertised for what it is supposed to do. It does not malfunction, but somebody bad used the product in a bad way, and therefore the manufacturer of the product is guilty.
Starting point is 00:56:10 It would be like if you sued Gillette because somebody slits someone else's throat in the razor. Correct, correct. So the problem was that there were a bunch of these losses that were being filed. As anybody knows about the American tort system, all you have to do is get seven people on a friendly jury, and you can rip money away from...
Starting point is 00:56:23 And it's very easy in these particular cases because you get a shooting victim who's obviously very sympathetic and should be very sympathetic, talking about a gun manufacturer who's very rich and very wealthy, and they're making weapons of war, right? And you just get eight, nine jurors to say, okay, well, like, they can afford to give a million bucks to this poor kid who's now in a wheelchair because some jackass shot him, right? And so what you ended up with was a bunch of
Starting point is 00:56:43 cases in the early 90s, a bunch of cases in which manufacturers were paying out exorbitant in sums of money to people who had been shot in these sorts of cases. So Congress comes along in the mid-2000s. They pass a law that grants immunity to lawsuit to manufacturers of firearms saying this is not a special class of manufacturers who suddenly are, we've created a new class of liability just for firearms or anything. It was just re-enchrining the basic tort liability stance that you cannot be held liable for somebody misusing your product or using your product in the way it was intended to be used, but using it against the wrong target. Right. Like if you, a knife, it is, it is meant to stab, right? It stabs many things. It can be used to stab
Starting point is 00:57:21 people who are innocent, as O.J. Simpson will tell you. So the fact is, like, could Nicole Brown Simpsons family, then sue the manufacturer of the knife. Cutco. Right, cutco for any of this. And the answer, of course, is no. So this goes to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court turns down the case and has basically reopened the liability into gun manufacturers, and the left is celebrating
Starting point is 00:57:41 because they feel like, okay, now we're going to launch a bunch of lawsuits against these gun manufacturers in attempt to put them out of business. You've already seen some of the gun manufacturers starting to carve off different portions of their company and bifurcate the company to prevent liability from spilling over into every area of the company, so they will create an advertising liability, basically a separate advertising company for Remington, because the lawsuits
Starting point is 00:57:59 are generally based on you advertise this gun widely, and then somebody who's bad saw the advertisement and then bought the gun. So they're trying to carve this up. But look, all this really is about an anti-gun agenda. It is not really about a pro-victim agenda anymore than it would be a pro-victim agenda to allow a liability class against a knife manufacturer. That's the legal breakdown. Alicia, let's hear from one more subscriber. All right. A Cuban-American subscriber wants to let you all know that he plans on voting for Donald Trump and what can Trump in the Republican Party do in order to gain more of the Hispanic vote, which he thinks will be decisive in following elections. Well, Michael Knowles, you once played a Cuban in a independent film.
Starting point is 00:58:36 That's true. I think you're the most qualified. That's true. I've always enjoyed Cuban people and Cuban products, as a matter of that. There is, actually, this gets into the immigration question because one argument that you could always use against the bigot people is you point out that when they say that all of the Hispanic vote votes to the left that isn't true of Cuban immigrants. Why? Because they've just left this horrific totalitarian communist regime, and so they come here. But over generations, the share of Cuban Americans who vote for Republicans diminishes throughout the generations. This is true. If you look at all millennials, if you look at all Gen Z, if you look at any number of
Starting point is 00:59:16 different races. That's probably true of Russian expatriates as well. Exactly. That's right. Who no longer remember. They don't remember because that has been lost. that becomes a problem of education. I don't think that the GOP needs slicker advertising. I don't think that's going to do it because the advertising actually begins in kindergarten. The people who don't have a generational memory of communism are learning from K through 12
Starting point is 00:59:38 and when they read the New York Times and the Washington Post that actually communism was really great and actually America's really terrible. You're not going to fix this on the political level. You have to get into the institutions, not just colleges, not even just high schools, but middle school and elementary school too. Good luck doing that.
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Starting point is 01:01:28 Alicia. Are you still awake over there Alicia? Are you still? Are you still alive? Barely. I've been up since 1 a.m. Don't ask Well, now I'm going to ask why have you been up since 1 a year? Oh, because you know, some God King decided to do backstage tonight and I had to come back for a moment I think that's me. No wonder people hate their balls. So let's give people what they want and ask more questions. you all from the subscribers over on daily wire.com. So this is a two-part question. It's going to be pretty interesting. I think it'd be cool to hear all the guys take on this.
Starting point is 01:01:58 How long do you think it will be before conservatives can take back California? And how likely is it that the God King's home state of Texas turns Democrat this election cycle? That's a genuine danger. I think, you know, I was just talking to a guy from Texas and he says, he was kind of bragging about it. He said, all these people are coming in from California. And I said, well, I hope they don't ruin your state. And his face fell. He hadn't thought of that.
Starting point is 01:02:19 That maybe that in California. It's not true. It's not right. Okay. As a bona fide, Texan, I will tell you that during the last election when Ted Cruz was running against, I hate to name it again, we never would. This is the most press Beto has gotten in like weeks, right? He might not actually eating like Utah, the dirt in Utah. I don't know here we are talking about it.
Starting point is 01:02:36 It'd be funny if he surged to like 2% in the Democratic polls. When our friend Ted Cruz was running against Beto O'Rourke for Senate in the last election, they took a look at the polls after. It turns out there's a huge swing in Texas. from the last election that had happened in terms of moving left, moving from deep red to dangerously purple. What they found was all of the Californian expats, even all the immigrants, well, that's not fair, all the California expats who had moved into Texas,
Starting point is 01:03:09 they all voted for Ted Cruz. Good God. The problem is Texans. It's the kids of Texans. The young people, right? The young people, right. It's not Marty McFly. It's Marty McFly's kids.
Starting point is 01:03:20 That's right. It's the kids, Marty. Something's got to be done about it. I mean, it really is. It's a generational thing, and that's the real danger in Texas. Honestly, I think that Texas, it would be very difficult for Democrats to win Texas in this election cycle, specifically because they're going to nominate somebody nuts. And Texas is still heavy Trump territory.
Starting point is 01:03:40 He's lost some in the polls. I find it very, very unlikely. It may actually be that the best thing happening in Texas right now is that Californians keep moving there. Because the Californians who are leaving California by and large, are the Californians who are trying to flee. And there's a whole study done about, like, people who are in California who want to leave, and it's entirely red state Californians. This is the thing I would like to ask.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I have seen twice in my life, which has now gone on, I don't know, 150, 160 years. Intermittable. Kill it. I have seen twice things that you thought would never turn around. It turned around. One was I was in New York in the 70s, which, my God, I mean, you really could not go outside at night without taking your life in your hands. I mean, you had to worry about it.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Death, which was a documentary. Right. And Giuliani turned that town around, as I said before. I also saw the Carter years, the Jimmy Carter years, when this country was, they called it the time when the West tried to commit suicide. When he was thrown out, all it took was Ronald Reagan to come in and he turned it around. But I want to know is how long, how long are people in California going to put up with the homeless in their streets, crapping on their sidewalks? And God knows, I have a heart for the homeless. I really do. It's not about that, but it's not compassionate to leave people out in the streets. It's not compassionate to leave people out in the streets. It's not compassionate. to leave people and treated for mental illness and drug abuse. This is not compassion. How long are people going to stand for that and not think, you know, you know what I might do? I might vote for the other party because Republicans have abandoned this state. They're starting now at grassroots to move back to say, can we rebuild this party? I've been talking to people who are doing it.
Starting point is 01:05:07 But it's a long, slow process. I think it's a losing proposition though, because. Always? Because we are so rich now. People have never been richer in this country than they are today. That means they've never had more geographic mobility. And the fundamental truth goes back to the problem in Texas is the problem in Cal, or the hope for Texas is the problem in California. Everybody who's trying to build a new Republican Party in the state of California is having to fight against the fact that every Republican is moving out of California.
Starting point is 01:05:36 So I actually am not as hopeless about California as I was even maybe a couple of years ago. And that is because California has turned into a shawl. I mean, it really has. It's a third world. So let's Donald Trump be condemned for using that word about places. that are not the United States. I've lived my entire life in California, with the exception of when I was in law school, every single moment of my life has been in California. I love this state. I don't have any plans to move from this state. The place is turning horrible. It's a horribly governed state. It's
Starting point is 01:06:03 amazing. It's unbelievable. And so I have been urging. I can't tell you how many politicians, people who have run for governor in these races, I've said to them over and over, the most recently Neil Kashkari, I remember saying this too repeatedly, why are you not running on crime and quality of life? Yes. Why? Why? Right? Even Arnold Schroch. Schwarzenegger didn't. When he ran in 2000 against Gray Davis in the runoff, it was just, well, you know, he's a friendly guy who likes education. Remember, his big issue was education. You can't run on education as a Republican and win, even on school vouchers. That's usually not
Starting point is 01:06:32 like a huge win. Sometimes it's a little bit of a value add like it was for Ron DeSantis in Florida or won like 100,000 black votes. He wouldn't have won without school choice. But when it comes to the bread and butter issues in California, you can't run on something where the easy answer from the other side is throw money at it, right, which is education. What you should be running on is the fact that the DA in San Francisco says he is not going to profit people pissing and shitting on the streets. Well, it's not just that it's... I'm very tired, so I'm cursing more. It's not just that he said it when he got elected. The shift we've seen is it was formerly maladministration. Now they are running on legalizing public urination. Running on it. Okay,
Starting point is 01:07:06 and this city, L.A., I mean, I've lived here my entire life. I remember when this was a pretty clean city. It was cool. Okay, and that is not a, again, for those who don't understand English, that is not any commentary on ethnicity or race. I mean, like, physically. clean. There is trash everywhere. There's a homeless person living on every bench. Literally, you can go down Ventura Boulevard and every single bench. Go down Sunset. Every single bench will have a homeless person on it. You go by any freeway underpass, any one of them, and you will find a homeless encampment there. And it's, you'll find open needles in suburban areas. How are Republicans not running on? The homeless actually burned down Brentwood
Starting point is 01:07:40 a year ago. Yeah, they did. They burn the richest, the richest community in L.A. By the way, the wildfires have been linked to, there been several wildfires. I was a Is it pure virtue signaling that people will tolerate this at all? I mean, why? San Francisco, I lived in San Francisco, one of the most beautiful cities on Earth, on the planet. It is now a hellhole. It really is.
Starting point is 01:07:59 It just is absolutely disgusting. Why isn't somebody saying, hmm, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to vote for different people. Because the left has shamed people, particularly people of well. Because California has bifurcated so strongly. It is basically people who are extremely wealthy, living in Beverly Hills, living off of sunset. Or people who are living.
Starting point is 01:08:17 living in the downtown L.A. underpass. Another way to put it is you have Maxine Waters and Maxine Waters as constituent. I mean, you want to talk about income inequality. Income inequality is a thing here in Los Angeles and it is in San Francisco as well. And so it's very easy for politicians to demagogue this thing by basically saying, well, you know what, you can buy, like this is actually the pitch. The pitch is there's this vast underclass that has been created by all of our regulation. But it's really created by you, the rich people.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And you know how you can keep that vast underclass from coming after you? You can buy them off. You can buy them off by us leaving them alone. I mean, like, really, do you think that the folks in San Jose have to deal with the homeless in their neighborhood? They don't. Yeah. Or in Silicon Valley. It's all the nicest areas.
Starting point is 01:08:56 They don't care. For them, it's a way of saying, look how compassionate I am. I'm not taking, I'm not criminalizing poverty. No one's talking about criminalizing poverty. It is a criminal act to live on a public street. It is a criminal act to crap in public. It is a criminal act to solicit or engage in sex in public areas. The DA in San Francisco says none of these are criminal act anymore.
Starting point is 01:09:15 How in the world, like I think, frankly, that if Adam Carolla ran for governor of the state of California on this platform, I think he would win. You know, the key to framing this is this is how they always, they say, you people are anti-poverty. Well, I mean, I guess I am anti-poverty, but they say you're anti-poverty, yes. Right, right. They'll say you're criminalizing poverty and you're somehow a sort of bigot for this anyway. The lie of this, the lie that they push is that it's compassionate to let people live on the street. The lie is that it's compassionate to let people who have someone. psychological issues who have addictions, who have a lot of problems,
Starting point is 01:09:49 live on the street in very dangerous areas and squalor. By the way, there's nothing compassion. You want to keep people in poverty. There's no better way to keep somebody in poverty than to let them live on the street, leave their crap there, and tell them that this is their new home. Okay, that is the definition of leaving somebody in poverty. The other thing that is horrific, it's absolutely horrific, is if you now go to the L.A. County Jail, I write about this in another kingdom,
Starting point is 01:10:10 you know, is that when you go, it is now a mental institution. Yeah, yeah. So they're taking people who are mentally ill. And I'm sure we've all had experience with mental illness. It's a horror. And they're putting them in prison. Because why? Because once they commit a crime, where are you going to put them?
Starting point is 01:10:23 You've got them somewhere, right? So now you've got these guys who don't even know what reality is behind bars and terrible. Well, because the regulations on mental illness in this state are awful. If you are mentally ill, like this was exactly the case. You saw this case that the New York Post reported on where somebody in the middle of Hollywood Boulevard, right? A homeless man in middle of Hollywood Boulevard took a bucket of hot feces, pulled a woman out of her car and poured the bucket of hot feces over her head. Obviously a mentally ill person.
Starting point is 01:10:45 So the person goes to court and sentenced to basically an outpatient mental illness facility. They do six months there. They're released. They're back on the street. Right. And so the problem is that for a huge, for a large percentage of people who are severely mentally ill, such that they are dangerous to themselves and others, we shouldn't blanket all mental illness. We all know people who are perfectly functional who suffer from some sort of mental illness, obviously. So just for clarity's sake.
Starting point is 01:11:07 But there are people who are dangerous to themselves, dangerous to others. And the regulations basically say that you can keep them on a 24-hour. or a 72-hour hold, and then you have to release them back into society, even if they require the medication. And if they refuse to take the medication, you cannot put them in a place you force them to take the medication. So you have people who are fully paranoid schizophrenic who don't know what reality looks like,
Starting point is 01:11:30 saying I won't take my pills in the ACLU saying he doesn't have to take his pills. If you make it take your pills, he's a fascist. This is all based on a study from the 1970s that was just debunked that led to the closing of so many of these institutions. And all their leftist theories, you know, 20 years ago, it's almost 20 years ago, I was researching detective novels set in San Francisco, and I went up to talk to the police,
Starting point is 01:11:48 and I spent the day with a couple of detectives, and they said to us, they said to me, this is like, so it's 18 years ago, say. They said to me, they will not let us treat people who are sick. They will not let us take them off the street, and it's going to get bad. This is 18 years. Of course, the police always know what's going to happen
Starting point is 01:12:05 because they're dealing with the detritus of the things that we create, the hire-ups create. I mean, this is terrible to watch this stuff. If you had a Republican in this state who ran on two propositions, You don't get to live on the street, and we are going to add additional funds for the actual building of mental institutions and check and change the regulations to allow for involuntary commitment of people who are actively dangerous to themselves or others, they'd win the governorship. Well, speaking of the horrors of mental illness, if you're enjoying this program, and you would like to keep this conversation going. That's the worst segue ever. I don't know.
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Starting point is 01:13:28 Give us the promo code Warrantiers when you become an all-access member, and we will give you 20% off of the price of admission. But before that happens, we're going to keep answering a few questions here from the people who are watching and phoning them in to Elisha. All right. Next question wants to know about Trump impeachment. She says that she doesn't think Trump will likely be impeached, but in that unlikely event, would Mike Pence automatically become the Republican nominee in 2020? And do you think that Pence has what it takes to win the presidency? Well, first, I think that our beloved subscriber is wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I think Donald Trump will certainly be impeached. But it's a bit of a technicality because I think what she really means is that he won't be convicted in the Senate and removed from office. Impeachment happens in the House, and it's a political process. They have the numbers. I think that they're boxed in by their own electoral, by their own rhetoric going into the 2020 election. I don't think the Democrats have any choice but to impeach Donald Trump. And they will do. Will he be convicted in the Senate and removed from office?
Starting point is 01:14:27 Of course, that's not going to happen unless they actually do find that breaking smoking gun. Devastating an explosive. Just a little historical point that people don't know because we've had much more impeachment in recent years. No president in American history has ever been impeached. convicted in the Senate removed from office. It's never happened. Even Andrew Johnson. Andrew Johnson was acquitted in the Senate.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I didn't remember that. And no one's ever been impeached in his first term because they just figure you can go to the electorate, but the Democrats can't do that. Well, Donald Trump's about to be a lot of. And listen, they'll probably go on, he'll put up on his wall, first impeachment. Everton first term.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Greatest in the year. He probably will. It was the greatest. There's every picture. It was the best impeachment. Everybody said so. But, yeah. If they actually find that missing a phone call of Donald Trump asking Vladimir Putin to build hotels for him all around the world while giving all of his political opponents polonium poisoning, then yes.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Mike Pence would automatically become the next president of the United States. He'd be sworn in, but even before there was an official swearing-in ceremony, he would in the same way that the president becomes the president-elect. He would be the de facto acting president. Then they'd have a swearing-in ceremony. But do you think he could win the next term, I think, was the president? question. Do you think he could win? No, I think the question was would he automatically? No, then it was, would he win? And the answer is no.
Starting point is 01:15:48 No. Then under the circumstance where Trump is actually convicted and removed from office, the evidence would have to be so overwhelming that it would completely damn the Republicans. And everybody who voted for Trump, the Republican electorate would feel like their own senators had betrayed them and removing him from office. It would be a total disaster. What do you think the odds are of Trump dumping pants for
Starting point is 01:16:07 Nikki Haley? Zero. Zero. A chance, yeah. I don't think that's what Haley's doing. I don't think it is either, but I wonder. I think it's like 3%. I tend to agree with it. I actually think it's a little higher than that, but I don't think it's going to happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Alicia, what else do you got for us? I think I might know the answer to this, but it'll be interesting to get everyone's opinion. Our next subscriber wants to know which current Democratic candidate is your least favorite and why. Oh, there's so many issues from it. I think we each have to give an answer to this. Andrew, start with you. Well, you know, I have to say that even though Bernie Sanders actually gets star for me for being sincere. To be a
Starting point is 01:16:44 sincere communist is not actually a good thing. And this guy, not only has he done nothing his entire life, but he has ascribed loyally to a policy that has failed again and again in front of him, and he has not changed at all.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I mean, he's visited Cuba, he's visited the Soviet Union. He's saying, I was joking on my show that he's saying this, he went to the Soviet Union and saying, this land is your land, this land is my land, and so is Poland. Because I think there is something, you know, it's not evil. It's something fundamentally wrong and maybe wicked is the right word. To keep being attached to a philosophy that has done so much terrible damage in this world.
Starting point is 01:17:27 And he's not a socialist. He's a communist. And he has basically shown loyalty to communist regimes in every country where they've arisen. And it doesn't matter to him that the people die. He's obviously living in a theoretical universe. I think there's something wrong with the guy. By the way, the proof of your contention is that he's endorsed by Linda Sarasorah Nihilmard. There you go.
Starting point is 01:17:47 There you go. He's the wrongest. I think that he is the worst as an actual real-life human being in the world. Michael. Pete Buttigieg is my least favorite. I can't stand him. He is such an obvious jerk. At least Bernie Sanders is honest about what he believes.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Elizabeth Warren is not honest about. many things, but she's always been a left-winger, at least, you could say, not nearly as radical as she is now. Julian Castro is hilarious in his radicalism. I get a huge kick out of his candidacy. Only Pete Buttigieg blows in the wind, so one day he's the moderate candidate trying to get Biden's votes. The next day he's this radical trying to get the Bernie votes.
Starting point is 01:18:28 And he's so incredibly judgmental. He's so incredibly moralizing. The Pastor Pete crap is unbelievable. His whole candidacy is about telling Christians. that they're not really Christians and telling, you know... Tell me more, Captain Abortion on a man. Exactly. It's so outrageous and disingenuous. He drives me up a wall.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Okay, I have to, because it's true. Elizabeth Warren is the worst. Okay, Elizabeth Warren. Also, I have a personal stake in Elizabeth Warren being the worst, meaning she's the only one of these candidates I've ever actually met. I met... You know, when I was having lunch in Santa Monica with Elizabeth Warren, but I actually have met Elizabeth Warren. And there was a point in time where Elizabeth Warren was an actual interesting human being.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Like, back in 2013... when she was recruiting for Harvard Law School is right after she'd written the two-income trap. And obviously, she was a committed leftist. I mean, there was no question she was a committed leftist. The first conversation, the only conversation I ever had with her, she started ripping on Rush Limbaugh, like, right away. But she was actually, she had some kind of interesting ideas. She was in favor of school choice at that point. If there's one thing that I can't stand, I think the vast majority of Americans cannot stand. You've cited Sanders's sincerity as both an asset and as a detriment. She's the least sincere.
Starting point is 01:19:38 candidates in this race, and it is not close, because she does not believe a single thing that she is saying right now. Every story that she has ever told, apparently, is a shading of the truth at best, from I'm the first lactating mother to sit for the New Jersey bar, which is obvious nonsense, to I was fired for being pregnant, which is also apparently nonsense, to I'm a Native American because I have high cheekbones, and I write a recipe that I crib from, like, Harper's Bazaar for Powell, Chow, to, I am now in favor of getting rid of, I'm getting, I hate charter schools, they need to they need to be abolished. She was for school choice five seconds ago. I love free markets, but billionaires should not exist, right? Billionaires' tears, I will drink them. She's just,
Starting point is 01:20:17 she's so utterly dishonest and the cynicism of somebody who's not even, you can't even blame her embrace of immoral positions on stupidity. Like Sanders, you can blame it on the fact that he's a delusional old coup and he's been delusional his entire life. This is not delusioned. This is calculated. And when you are a calculated advocate for positions, you don't even believe, but you are willing to make the country worse in order to achieve your own personal power. I think this makes you the worst person in the race. Well, I was going to say Pete Buttigieg,
Starting point is 01:20:45 but since Michael already did, I'll just give you guys the process by which I arrived at the people that I used. In the beginning, I hated Kamala Harris the most because she's the one that I actually fear. Like, I don't fear Bernie Sanders because I think he'd be so ineffectual at being president because communists are terrible at everything,
Starting point is 01:21:02 and Bernie's never accomplished a damn thing in his entire life. And Elizabeth Warren, I actually think that she certainly poses as a major leftist right now, and everything you say has been about how insincere and dishonest she is, of course, is true. But I actually suspect that if she were to be elected president, she would not functionally be the radical that she presents as right now. I think that's all calculated. It would still be terrible, but it would not be what it appears to be today. Kamala Harris scared me because she openly talks about just putting people who disagree with her in jail.
Starting point is 01:21:32 And she got a lot of experience of putting people. and jail. And the guys who run her campaign go on Twitter all the time and say, we wouldn't stand for that if Kamala Harris was president. We'd lock all of you up. And I think, well, that's actual fascism. I don't think that's good. But then I realized she didn't stand a chance of winning and she wasn't affecting the national conversation in any way. And at that point, I moved to Buttigieg, but a close second for me is Beto. And the reason is race demagogu is the worst thing for this country. I said before that I think it's unfair to say that America's original sin is slavery and not great Britons just because there's a 20-year gap 150 years ago.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Nevertheless, race is functionally the most detrimental thing to the culture of America. It's a, it's a, it's the thing that rips us apart the most that's leveraged by the left in order to rip us apart apart the most. And what I hate about Beto O'Rourke is that when he was down and he should have been out, instead of recognizing that he didn't stand a chance, He picked up the race issue and the guns issue and demagogued in a way that... And the religious liberty issue, right? Yeah. The religious liberty issue.
Starting point is 01:22:40 And he basically reinforced all of the worst arguments against American liberty that exist. And for that, I think, there's a special place in, I mean, I guess Arizona. I don't know. He'll be eating dirt forever there. Eternal Arizona fire. Elisha, we're going to take at least one more question. They told me never to say this is the last question because people may tune out. But I'm just going to tell you guys I'm leaning very heavily.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Not taking any questions. So that means I can go after this? Array. All right. If the 2020 candidates have their way and make college free, I'm assuming she means the Democratic 2020 candidates, do you think that we will see dramatic drop off in the quality of American education? There's no room.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Where would they go if they were going to drop off? Yeah. We actually had an argument. This very week, Michael and Drew and I, sitting in my office, about the state of the academy. And the argument was, we think it's terrible and you think it's really, really, really terrible. It wasn't even that. We all think it's terrible. Yeah. I think that it's irredeemable and that we need to raise the institution and start over. I think that it's an 18th century model trying to be applied to 21st century reality at best anyway.
Starting point is 01:23:57 I don't think it can get much worse. I think if you're a conservative parent, if your child was speaking six languages by the time that they were seven, if your child in elementary school was asking you how to pronounce words in Shakespeare? That's me. You're talking to me. That is your kid. Yeah, yeah. Then you probably need to send them to an elite university. Similarly, if your kid has a knack for the law, if your kid wants to be a doctor, if your kid wants to be an engineer,
Starting point is 01:24:23 you probably got to send them to college. I would think about, in the latter case, not sending them to get a liberal arts education, but just to be a bachelor's of science. Anybody else, if you're conservative and you send your child to college, I think you are willfully naive about the reality of what it is. It is a Soviet-style re-education camp.
Starting point is 01:24:42 They intend and they succeed at re-educating your child away from every value you try to instill in them and you pay them for the pleasure. They don't want to make it free because it will help your kids get a job from a billionaire, an evil billionaire. They want it to be free
Starting point is 01:24:58 so that they can. can, so that they can brainwash every one of our children and we should oppose it. We shouldn't send our kids to it. It can't get much worse. It's pretty freaking bad. If you're still watching, go over to dailywire.com, become an all-access subscriber. We're in tears as the promo code to get 20% off. We're going to keep the discussion happening over on our new discussion app on the website and on the dailywire.com app. But before we go, there is one thing that I think we have to talk about very briefly. We're going to spend a few minutes on this. And that is, Our friends, Adam Carolla, and our friend Dennis Prager, are in the process right now, as we speak today, of releasing their fantastic documentary, no safe spaces.
Starting point is 01:25:39 It's in limited release today. I think Ben and Michael and Drew were able to go to the premiere this week. I'm not welcome on red carpet, so I wasn't able to be there, but I have seen the film. It's absolutely fantastic. A huge piece of the film tracks Ben's arrival at Berkeley to the $600,000 worth of. Security. Police protection that he needed at the heart of free speech in America, Berkeley University. It's a fantastic film. I want to get all of your opinions, but I do want to say, if you're watching this, you're in Southern California. I know it's playing in Burbank this
Starting point is 01:26:13 weekend. That's not the only place. You should check the listings. If it's playing near you, I'll say this is an important film. It's a fantastic film produced by our friend Owen Brennan and directed by our friend Justin Folk, who's a genuine talent. I hate to say it, almost everything we do. we stole from Justin several years ago. And the only way that films like this get made is if we're able to convince high net worth individuals and distributors that there is an audience for it. So if you want to, listen, it's not an act of charity,
Starting point is 01:26:43 it's a great film. You'll learn an awful lot from it. You'll see the reality of how bad things are on our campus. In fact, if you're one of those conservative parents thinking, how bad can the schools go watch those spaces so that you'll know just how absurd the question already is. But while it's not an act of charity, it is an act of good. Support. It's an act of support to reach out to the talented people who do try to make this
Starting point is 01:27:07 content to get our values out into the entertainment marketplace. It only happens if you support these films. Please go see No Safe Spaces. You guys probably have some things. I have to say this one personal note. You know, you talk about Owen Brennan who started Madison McQueen, which is the producer of this film. And you talk about Justin Foke, who directed it. those guys were key to PJ TV, which was a forerunner of the Daily Wire. Justin Folk directed my clavin on the culture of things, which is how I got started in this business. And I used to sit and watch him take my words and turn them into these artistic two-minute videos.
Starting point is 01:27:41 And I just used to shake my head and they were brilliant. And I'm so, I really am so proud of the job he did and putting together. You know, because documentaries can be boring or they can be interesting. And this is made interesting by the way he put it together. Owen ran the newsroom of the PGA TV, made it what it was at its best. And these two guys have gone on to really great things. And I got to say, I was sitting in the theater and I was just thinking, I made these people. I made them.
Starting point is 01:28:09 No, I really, I was thinking, I just, I'm so proud of what they've done. And it's a good film. I went there and I told Owen and Justin that I would have lied to their faces and said it was a good movie even if it wasn't. But I wouldn't have lied to everybody else. I was really impressed even in the kind of content that, look, I go to these college campuses. I've been attacked on these college campuses. I've seen it. I didn't think there was anything new I could see in this movie.
Starting point is 01:28:36 And some of the stuff that is in that movie, I was shocked by. I actually hadn't seen it before. And the creativity in the movie, I mean, there are these whole, I don't want to ruin the movie. There are these whole sequences, though, that are just laugh out loud, drop-down funny. And my favorite part about it, there's a little Easter. egg appearance of me in the movie, see if you can find it. And my name is at the end, they spelled it wrong. K-L-A-V-E-N.
Starting point is 01:28:58 People who produce all of your original names. I also have an Easter egg appearance in the film. So be watching for Michael Knowles and the God King while you're actually just tuning in to see Adam Coral and it's pre-gringion here. I mean, so never mind the fact that, I mean, it has Jeremy in it briefly, and it has Knowles in it briefly, and is made by the people who made Clave, and all of those are, I mean, see the film in spite of those things.
Starting point is 01:29:23 I mean, the fact is that it is a brilliant film about brave, beautiful people. And I highly recommend it. And as we all know, I mean, the fact is that if you enjoy shows that feature me, but have others in them, then you should probably enjoy no safe space. I will say there are several laugh outloaded moments in No Safe Spaces. And I think that the flashback to young Dennis and Young Adam is just unbelievable. They did such a good job with your segment, Ben. It is so funny.
Starting point is 01:29:57 The way that they juxtapose 5'9, Ben Shapiro, checking his phone, going through airport security with like the SWAT team. Wire. Wire. Wire. Wire. It's fantastic. It's highly creative.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Again, no safe spaces. Check it out. If there's a promo code, I'd give it to you. There isn't. You're just going to have to spend your money, and it will be worth it to you. It's a fantastic film. So thanks again to everybody for tuning in. And if you're a DailyWire All Access member, come over and keep the discussion going with us at the website or on the mobile app.
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